Steven Spielberg with Sarah Buddery, MJ Smith, Andrew Gaudion & Nick Mear (Let's Jaws For A Minute, Let's Party With Marty, Reel Perspective, Ramblin: An Amblin Podcast & Nickflix)

[00:00:51] Hello and welcome to Fandomentals, the podcast that explores pop culture, one conversation at a time. I am your host, Harley. On this episode I'm joined by four returning guests to discuss the works of the legend of cinema that is Steven Spielberg.

[00:01:08] And the four people that I have joining me for such a monumental episode are four of the finest folk that I know in the independent podcasting space.

[00:01:18] In no particular order, I am joined by Sarah Buddery from Let's Jaws For A Minute and Let's Party With Marty, her co-host, MJ Smith who also happens to have another film podcast, Reel Perspective, Ramblin, An Amblin Podcast, very own Andy Gaudion and Nick Mear from the Nickflix podcast.

[00:01:36] What an incredible lineup I have for you guys today. And what a subject! I mean, where do you even begin with someone like Steven Spielberg? From his filmography to his production company, there is just so much that this man has contributed

[00:01:50] to the art of cinema. And really it was an absolute delight to sit down with these four wonderful people and have such a fun conversation about this man's incredible body of work. He has of course been the subject

[00:02:04] of a couple of episodes of this podcast now from Jaws to Indiana Jones and even Jurassic Park having their very own episodes. But more than that, he has often at the centre of the shows that my guests run.

[00:02:17] I mean, I shouldn't have to explain it but Ramblin and Amblin podcast, obviously about the production company Amblin that Spielberg had somewhat of a hand in. Let's Jaws for a minute, breaking down one of Steven Spielberg's most iconic movies and of course Nickflix podcast real perspective

[00:02:34] and even let's part of Marty often discuss Spielberg as he's someone that floats around in their realms. Hence, I thought these guys would be the perfect guests for this episode. This honestly is one of my

[00:02:47] favorite episodes ever. It's just so much fun having all of these guys in the same room and before I go any further, I want to give a shout out to one person who was unable to be here as part of

[00:03:00] this group and that is of course Jaws you are Glenn the other half of Ramblin and Amblin podcast. Josh, if you're listening, I'm sorry we couldn't have you on this time but thank you so much

[00:03:10] for all of your support over the years for the podcast. It really means the world. As I have been alluding to in the previous episodes of this podcast, the show is taking a little bit of a change in direction after this episode.

[00:03:24] The show itself is still remaining intact. I'm still doing interviews and I'm still exploring the world of pop culture. However, moving forward instead of there being different episodes based on completely random areas of pop culture and instead of me coming and going every so often,

[00:03:43] sometimes doing weekly, sometimes doing fortnightly and taking breaks, etc. I've decided to go seasonal. This is a really simple change but what this would allow me to do hopefully is two things. One, keep a consistent schedule and take scheduled breaks rather than just sort of disappear

[00:04:01] for periods of time and then reappear, once I've managed to gather enough episodes for you and frankly, I'm actually putting the time in because it is time consuming doing this show as

[00:04:11] much as I love it. I can be a bit more focused on what I'm doing. I have the chance to explore topics a little deeper and be a bit more targeted with who I want to get on the show.

[00:04:26] These are some very exciting changes to the podcast and I cannot wait to share more with you guys very soon. In fact, at the end of this episode, I'll give you all the details about the very first

[00:04:37] season of fundamentals in 2024 so stick around for that. But that's enough from me. Let's get on with the episode. This is Steven Spielberg with Sarah Buddy, MJ Smith, Andy Goddy and Nick Me. Hello guys and welcome to the fundamentals podcast. Welcome back, I should say

[00:05:07] to each and every one of you. I would have introduced you up top as too many of you today. Yeah, I mean actually I should probably introduce this as what we are on Twitter, right? The

[00:05:19] podcast board. Yeah, I'll just make it. This should put out that sound. Absolutely. For anyone who doesn't know, yeah, we've all of us. We've all been part of a little group that's been going

[00:05:29] for how many years now? Oh, I want to say three, three, four. Going, this is our fourth year, right? Wow. Yeah, because we were all locked down, locked down projects. We were, yeah, and we're still here.

[00:05:42] It's just, it's just, you've got enough. Yeah, just about, we've made it a lot further than I think most people do in these things. It's been great. You know, we'd love to have a new

[00:05:51] guy support and yeah, as I was sort of coming towards the end of the first phase of this podcast moving into the next phase. I was like, I need to get everybody in this group on one episode.

[00:06:03] And I couldn't think of a better topic than one that kind of crosses all of our streams, if you will, that's like popped up on all our various shows for various reasons. And I, as

[00:06:12] of course, the legendary director that is Steven Spielberg. So to kick us off, who's on my work? Oh, Andy, oh, no. This is what happens when you don't get job. Oh, John, I'm going to pick on you then to start with this question.

[00:06:38] Well, I think this is the anyway I can think to do. So if we'll just go around the sort of virtual room, if you will. Absolutely. I want us to start with what everybody's introduction to Spielberg was,

[00:06:47] you know, his first film where that be directed or produced like when you sort of became aware who he was in the cinematic landscapes. And yeah, start with you mate. What was your sort of

[00:06:56] Steven Spielberg awakening? I was from a very early age. It's got my first education of movies that be from kind of Spielberg directed or I say, Spielberg adjacent pieces.

[00:07:10] But I think the first one I would have seen was ET when I was about three years old and I saw ET and it's get scared to hell out of me. I thought that guy was a little freak.

[00:07:25] That seems to be quite a common experience. Yeah. Right? Like that seems to be quite often people's experience with ET is like, he's meant to be the cutely alien. Yeah. I think yeah,

[00:07:34] if you're if you're below a certain age it's sort of that. Take the way down the other side of it as well. It's like, you're my a star kind of forest with ominous glow and yeah, it's freaky looking.

[00:07:51] It was around us in the sort of time as well. I can like really remember BBC one, one Christmas. I want to say it was like Christmas night six. Speaking up, if that dress at park is making

[00:08:01] its terrestrial TV, day PO and UK and being very excited for it. I was a very dino mad kid and dress at park with a dream country as a as a film to kind of discover and unlock. And like even around

[00:08:17] that time something like the lamp before time would have been a very early one for me as well. Which was yeah. His first second collaboration with Don Blue from the animation side of things

[00:08:29] and with George Lucas as well. And having him be this kind of person that ends up kind of connecting you to other wider areas of cinema as you like get older and watch more and discover just how big

[00:08:43] of a player he is and who who's that name Steven Spielberg that I see or these films that I'm enjoying. Let's see where this guy comes from who he's connected with and it does. Spielberg is a

[00:08:55] is a gateway drug into movies as a whole. It certainly was for me. Yeah, you're getting a lot of knots for every way. It's really hard to relate on the dinosaur thing as well. I was like yeah,

[00:09:07] first love is a kid and yeah, let's say wait there's an entire movie about it. Okay, wait, Lee not a scary as you do right? I mean it's a baseball. Scary isn't about that

[00:09:21] it was to me as a trial. Oh dear. Oh dear. Oh man yeah but absolutely I think there's there's a lot to relate to in that. How about you Nick? Oh yeah so the the first actual Spielberg movie I

[00:09:35] ever saw was jaws when I was like six or seven with my grandpa and what made it stick out to me was when Quinn gets spoiler alert I guess anyone who has a name he gets bitten by the shark and spits up

[00:09:49] blood. I happen to be eating tomato soup and so as he ignociated tomato soup with Quinn from jaws. Did you lose your mind when you saw her turn of the thing? I just like you know it that's

[00:10:04] it. I'm not gonna eat it anymore but and then as the movie actually that really got me into him was saving private Ryan because again saw it at a way too young of age I was like nine when

[00:10:17] I saw that in theater. Oh my grandpa my brother and my stuff dad and it was like in the movies when a kid's watching so in like in his engrossed with the movie that opening 20 minutes like

[00:10:30] I don't think I'd blink and I was like oh yeah and then I and it never like scared me out. I'm like my brother had seen it he's like my brother was a big warbuff he's like oh my god Nick this

[00:10:39] movie's gonna blow your mind I'm like okay calm down and then I watched and I was like holy hell I cannot believe you could do something like this in a movie and then since then as I've gotten

[00:10:49] older I've grown to like appreciate like a lot more of his movies but like just that was like my gateway into like oh a director could do something that unique and like then seeing like

[00:11:02] his body of work and be like oh my god this is the same guy who did like this movie which is more maybe for kids or this one that's more this element in this element and how he's like

[00:11:12] he's he does a good job of making movies for film dorks but that also like a non-film people can enjoy he's really he like found that good happy medium of like big budget but not stupid

[00:11:26] and then just like sprinkles in every genre he could find which is what I've always liked about him love that yeah it's made us super either but I mean there's a theme here of watching films

[00:11:39] way too young yeah yeah it's good but it's a little bit yeah so who else is he trove it's like what's your Steven Spielberg trover come on yeah it's funny because like I knew the first

[00:11:53] Spielberg film I'd watched was Jurassic Park and you had watched it like maybe a little too young but I couldn't remember when exactly it was but Andy so it was 96 that it was first yeah yeah

[00:12:04] yeah I certainly might memory of it I would have been five so I think that's when I saw it for the first time older brother as well he would have been seven so kind of perfect age for it

[00:12:17] I remember being an actor older brother and dinosaur kid very much so very much so you go and I kind of just by having an older brother was also yeah but yeah I was fine with everything

[00:12:29] in Jurassic Park apart from the guy being eaten on the toilet because sure we were just a body train nine because I was terrified we literally was just like the most relatable thing I'd seen because

[00:12:40] I was like I've got a toilet I can't get you like I never could do a toilet I do for the ocean for most people yeah it's a good for toilets for you I didn't even have a month after that so I thought it was safe to take

[00:13:03] exactly yeah and I was a tagline for the last world yeah I remember I mean obviously that experience stopped with me in more ways than one but it's Spielberg as far as I'm aware the first like director I was aware of as a person because when

[00:13:25] you're a kid yeah you don't understand the process of making a movie you understand that there's something that your parents throw on to keep you quiet or you accidentally watch because you've

[00:13:34] got an older brother but you don't know the mechanics of it and you don't understand how that thing comes to be so I'm just watching something with older dinosaurs and it and thinking this

[00:13:44] is real and then it's later obviously that like you learn what goes into making a movie and you watch ET and you watch all these other films and Indiana Jones and you keep seeing

[00:13:57] this same name pop up and you're like did this one guy make all of these films that I love like this is incredible and it's like that's the first like person I'm aware of as like

[00:14:07] that's a director and that's what they do and they make these movies yeah I'm just a movie brilliant yeah so MJ what's your what's your shared trauma come on then sure I think my first thing is exposure to him was a burns for all seasons

[00:14:28] okay see the Spielberg so senior Spielberg that's a good encounter part to see the Spielberg so back that that cliff is definitely going in here get me Steven Spielberg he's unavailable then get me his non-union Mexican equivalent

[00:14:50] listen senior Spielberg or I want you to do for me with Spielberg did for us because she knew she didn't let us win or senior burns as she'll be able to listen Spielberg or

[00:15:00] she's in the end I like peas and a pud with both victory owners we both made shells for the Nazis but mine worked damn it now go out there and win me that first of all continue

[00:15:12] yeah anyway the actual answer is the first few of the movie I saw is Jurassic Park I saw it in the theater when I was five years old jealous so yep I was five they came out in 93 and I was a huge dinosaur kid that was my thing

[00:15:31] like even fire to Jurassic Park I wanted to be a paleontologist like yep I was so into dinosaurs and so my dad not thinking this is a horror movie for adults was like I don't kids in the dinosaurs

[00:15:43] I'll take it and I did not think it was scary at all like I was my dad was terrified like I remember when like the scene with the spitter it was just like my dad was like oh

[00:15:56] I think my dad had to be like oh did I should have just moved this guy I thought I was just like this rocks but also at home my exposure to him was

[00:16:10] I we rented a book and despite it not being a movie I like as an adult I really like those yeah I love that I love that relationship with that cool it's just a lame teenager sign

[00:16:34] he's like I don't like to captain hook more than the rest of these people yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so hook was like a big deal for I had a bunch of hook action figures that I remember

[00:16:50] and so but then I would make my dinosaurs eat all the hook action figures because that's out of the way yeah I would play Jurassic Park with him and uh and then weirdly I came to him to like know who Steven Spielberg was

[00:17:06] yeah through his cartoons so through his production work with tiny tune adventures and a yeah um hugely influential both of those shows but anime and anime acts in particular like you can draw straight from my wine of BS as an adult to that show

[00:17:22] like I just such like outdated pop culture references and like probably no real chances or any brown chinos as well and I'll explain the balloony smell yeah to the point where like just last week I went to go see anime and x live

[00:17:41] do you just went to that didn't you know I did yet two nights ago and it was amazing rumble yeah it was awesome and if they talk so highly of Spielberg because they're like he

[00:17:49] threw money at it and they're like we had a full orchestra we were allowed to do a lot of stuff because we had a lot of stuff we couldn't do because you know anytime you'd mentioned

[00:17:57] like a Disney thing they'd be like they're gonna sue us don't I don't know so they play songs they had never aired before and man it was the references and all these songs and like god to write that stuff but the fact that they had Spielberg's backing

[00:18:10] like a hundred percent is awesome yeah that was incredible that was really really neat but to even just be like it will like Rob Paulson even said Sir Rob Paulson is the voice of Yakko or um and he does it's him and the guy whose

[00:18:26] name is Gasey Ray something that composed all the music for him oh yeah yeah I'll get his show we have a shell we have our first google yeah I got the program was digital so I was like oh I got on my phone it was Randy

[00:18:44] Rogol was the composer and who was amazing because he just played all these songs and sang to yeah yeah super cool but Rob Paulson said that this is sort of an aside Rob Paulson said that as a performer he really looked up to Peter Salars and I'd never

[00:18:58] realized that before I don't know if he said that at your performance then he said that yeah the Dr. Scratch and sniff voice was just Dr. Strangeliff and I was like oh my god

[00:19:07] I had like of course it is and like I'd never realized that about Rob Paulson as a performer but that's exactly he's yeah he is Peter Salars like that's exactly I see it in every character

[00:19:16] he's ever played now so that was really neat to sort of see how like this thing is a kid like I'm still one learning about that Spielberg had this effect I'll meet you know 30 years later

[00:19:29] going to see anime in the x live and just like remembering all the music remembering all the like the puns and all that so that and tiny tunes were the big like oh this is a god because

[00:19:39] they would do like animated Spielberg in both of those shows because thinking about the Spielberg and the Spielberg and the Spielberg hits for Hollywood he'll make his millions and yeah I remember cartoons Spielberg is like the first time I knew who Spielberg looked like what Spielberg looked

[00:19:59] like and they always put him in like a hat for one of his movies because that's what he always appears so that's how it became aware of like oh this is the guy who like made Jurassic Park and then

[00:20:10] I remember my dad being really into saving primer Ryan despite not really liking more movies all that much so mm mm what about yourself honestly what's your what was your she sure

[00:20:23] it's kind of a blend of all of you guys I think and then so this is what I'm fascinated about it with Spielberg is particularly I think our generation is like here's somebody that crosses over into various aspects of people's childhoods I've definitely can relate to most

[00:20:38] you guys here that I was on massive dinosaur kid that was my first love of anything and if it's not immediately apparent from listening to any episode of the show when I'm a fan of something I am a fan

[00:20:49] yeah it was like car yeah and that was me as a kid with dinosaurs so yeah I think actually I do know for fact my parents went to see Jurassic Park in the cinema and I think it was their first date

[00:21:03] but I thought it was yeah it's one they remember very fondly and so yeah years later when you know I'm around they're like oh yeah this is film dinosaurs honey might like this and I was probably

[00:21:13] similar age yeah like sort of I would have been about six or seven watching it and kind of similar to your points like I wasn't that afraid of it I was more just like oh cool dinosaurs on screen

[00:21:24] you know and that was it and then yeah watching all of it pink in the brain all the cartoons and watching obviously the stuff he's been involved with with his production company you know doing

[00:21:34] stuff like gremlins was a huge one of us as a kid me my sister love that movie E.T. as you mentioned her you know yeah the stuff like that used to watch all the Indiana Jones just there's just

[00:21:44] something as you say about him that just really got into it every aspect of my childhood and and I think as well I'm sure I discuss this on my first appearance on L.J. Fram we talked about

[00:21:56] how it's kind there yeah going back here's later as a teenager and being fortunate enough to analyze that scene in English for some reason for a summer we just did that and it was really cool

[00:22:07] and that was when I was like oh directors do things on purpose so much like oh yeah I mean like just never I never previously thought about it like oh there's a choice in the

[00:22:18] cat and who better to look at than someone like Spielberg from there when I got curious about that it was like when I've got an entire reference that I can go back and look over because I know all of

[00:22:28] his movies from my childhood and I find myself sort of going back after that and rewatching like Jurassic Park in Indiana Jones and just going yeah this guy's really good isn't he like a laser

[00:22:39] it's a talent this kid you know the thought about a kid in a being eaten for real and they're like oh just film it because they're like oh yeah yeah yeah I just think from there it was like

[00:23:05] this guy and as you say, then the sort of connective tissue he has to so many other people, right? Like you mentioned George Lucas and obviously he's good friends with art and school of sazing. People like that and you're like, okay, so it's one of those.

[00:23:17] If you I think if you start to pay attention to what he does, you've like, as you said Andy, he's the gateway drug, right? He's one that suddenly you're just your into cinema because he's so connected to everybody else. Yeah.

[00:23:30] Yeah, it's like they say like, oh, if you like music, find out who your favorite band's favorite band is. Yeah. Right. And so that's how you like discover new music. And then with cinema, I feel like it's like, well,

[00:23:43] most people's introduction to cinema as an art form is usually a Spielberg moving. Yeah. To this day, I would say, most people like grow up on something's field like back to the future. We haven't even talked about it. Right? Like, yeah. It's huge one for most people.

[00:23:58] Oh, also I didn't relate my trauma, my sister showed me poltergeist when I was five. Did a number on me. Oh, dear. Deritable decision. She planned it for the outside of your window and put it out. He's the same way where it's like,

[00:24:22] find your favorite directors, favorite directors, right? And they're usually just contemporaries and it's like, Copula, it's Versace. The Palma. You know, the people who are drawn forward, who is influenced by like, you just like, you start to learn about Spielberg.

[00:24:37] You start to learn about the history of cinema, particularly in America. Yeah. Right. Right. Yeah. Now, I definitely think there's a lot to be said for that. And it's something interesting. And we can dive into this a bit more.

[00:24:51] I think he's somebody that manages to do the thing that I think one of you guys mentioned earlier. He manages to make the kinds of movies that are a really accessible to people, right? Like we've mentioned a lot of big blockbusters.

[00:25:03] I mean, George and Dressett part being like the 10 poll, like the first ever blockbusters, right? And doing it and time and time again. And then also doing really creative artistic pieces and to somebody who can sort of bring that together, right?

[00:25:18] I mean, again, MJ and Sarah, you guys managing to break down George minute by minute. There's a reason why that worked, right? Because it's yes, it's a big summer blockbuster. Yes, it's an entertaining film that you can just watch, passively, and just enjoy it as it is.

[00:25:32] But it's also something that is managed to just be layered with so much subtext and so many creative artistic choices. Yeah. And that's the thing I find most interesting about him is how he's able to do

[00:25:43] the popular directer thing of like be a safe pair of hands and get it to a big audience. But also be really clever with the choices that he makes. I don't know there's very many people that can walk that line right.

[00:25:54] It's like, you're either a really artistic or to or you're just a big blockbuster guy. Yeah, yeah. I mean, I feel like Scorsese comes a little closest far as like using very specific artful cinematic grammar and language with films that are accessible to white audiences.

[00:26:10] But he makes films that are geared towards adults and only adults for the most part. Like Spielberg gets in there and is just like he makes films for everyone. Like I feel like you could watch Raiders the Walsh arc at any age and be entertained by,

[00:26:22] you know, because it's a proven amount of life you're all they watch it with me. Exactly. I think that would be his universe like not in the end. I will, no, it's a pair of hands. And I'm so great.

[00:26:40] Yeah, one of the many things we learned on our recent uh, let's do this for a minute of season where we covered other shark movies is um you can't just replicate that. That easily.

[00:26:54] So what Spielberg does in jaws is so unique and yes, there have been like other blockbusters since then but there is a very good reason and not just because it's mind and MJ's favorite film.

[00:27:07] There is a very good reason why jaws is a great film to dive into minute by minute. You could not do that. I mean, you could technically but you would not get as much out of going

[00:27:18] minute by minute through 407 meters down or mega shark versus giant octopus just to pick out two of that. Well, that's a great story. Are you laying down the challenge? Is that is that the next uh, MJ fam season is?

[00:27:35] Let's let's make a short versus giant octopus for a minute. Yeah. Let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's not let's Yeah, but it's a lot of ox somewhere. It's mega shark and first

[00:27:47] roll on the tongue. Yeah, not the same not the same and yeah it's like there's a lot of challenge and get a logo drafted out. Don't you dare this is how we get into this mess before? Yeah, I'm not touching that with a music book or a show.

[00:28:03] Correct. Correct choice to make. Yeah, there is yeah, there's just this secret source too. Particularly to jewels, but there's so many of spillbags other films as well where it's this is something we're

[00:28:17] spoken about a lot on our episodes and we did a whole spillbag season as well before we cover chart movies. Is that without it necessarily being like super obvious he puts something up himself in almost all of his movies.

[00:28:33] Obviously, like he talks about the divorce of his parents a lot. He made a whole film about it, but it is it is mentioned subtly and so many other films as well. This like the kids be in a way from their parents you have it in

[00:28:48] ET. It's mentioned in passing that Elliot's parents are our divorced or the dad is gone away to somewhere. Even in you know, in Jurassic Park like the kids are not with their parents. Yeah, the parents are getting into divorce. Yeah, they do.

[00:29:13] It's like his first like 40 movies are all there's like some dropped like we got to mention a divorce somewhere. Yeah, every at least I go into the movies actually ends with daddy issues will return in.

[00:29:30] Makes a fableman so fascinating as a kind of skeleton key that unlocks all of them when you kind of go back over everything and it's such a transcendent film for I think any spillbob. It just really taps into something quite surprising because there's an image I think people

[00:29:49] have in their minds of spillbob like particularly the tractors will have it that he's this kind of sentimentalist and the schmolksy guys just going to add to it on top of it. It's not true at all when I think the fableman is such a testament to that.

[00:30:05] I've just filmed that on the surface could be like, aren't the movies magical? And it's actually about this guy being like, it's really weird that I make all these decisions. And they don't really affect everyone in my life without me really intending to yet I can't

[00:30:20] stop myself from pointing the camera here or making a decision to cut something like this. And it's such an opens up that is whole filmography in a completely different way. Yeah, well have you guys seen the clip of him on inside the actor studio with James Lipton?

[00:30:37] Is it when he talks about close encounters? Yeah, yeah and he's like, you know, in close encounters because your mother was a musician your father was a computer scientist. In close encounters they communicate with the aliens

[00:30:51] through music generated by computers. Was that on purpose? And you watch Steven Stewart's mind get blown and he was like, wow, that wasn't on purpose. He was like, I just came from like, somewhere deep in my subconscious. Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. I just thought it was a

[00:31:08] hard work. Yeah, it's the margin. And I just think they're me. Right? He's just like, he's like, thank you for pointing that out to me. Like, so even that is something like it's so

[00:31:21] ingrained in him and so yeah, the fable. Have you guys went back and Afro pose fableman seen last crusade? No, well, yeah, come to Lisa. Yeah, that would be Afro fableman's. Even like watching, so like we did AI artificial intelligence right recently on rambling and

[00:31:39] going back to that after the fableman makes it. I filmed that was already quite much more emotion intelligent and spiky and quite sent and like there's a cynical street running through that that I think a lot of people particularly at the time that's at least kind of missed

[00:31:56] but particularly post-failments as a lot of quite raw separation and anxiety in that movie that it's just really rings. Really rings through and again, it's like like, comes from a pocket of his career because you can kind of put him in phase as really if this kind

[00:32:13] of emerging young buck wanting to show what talent he's got and essentially creating a buck by the way, he's this kind of a Hollywood machine guy gets labelled with that for a while.

[00:32:25] Kind of struggles to get out of that a bit in the 80s where he doubles back and forth blockbuster fair and drama dramas like the colour per for an empire of sun and always which don't

[00:32:35] quite getting out of that blockbuster box set people see him in then post-shinvers list you get a whole new spillberg who's not very interested in a lot of the types of movies that he made his

[00:32:51] name on even following that up with the loss world. It's such a darker meaner nasty a movie than the first dress it passed. So cynical. Yeah and then going that into to like I'm a

[00:33:02] starred in Seven Private Ryan he's like quite adult dramas and then transition again in that early naughty period of finding blockbuster fair but delivering them with much more grit and darkness and much more wary world view in process. I think 911 through that right. Yeah,

[00:33:23] particularly a kind of stretch of AI not so much with the kind of post 911 thing but certainly my narrative will. Might know any reports of great example of that yeah more

[00:33:34] than world view. More the world view. Yeah those are probably two of his darker movies but he also like you said about breaking the mold of like he's just known as this one thing I mean how many

[00:33:44] directors they're first you know three of their first four movies you had you go from jaws to close encounters you know then nineteen four or nine was a bomb that you even get a Jones and it's like three of your first four movies all are huge hits like

[00:34:02] I mean close to counters don't think people realize not saying you guys but like they movie was a giant blockbuster is not a formulaic alien blockbuster movie that's so much slower

[00:34:13] it's just a lot of it's not a happy movie but like he was making these hits that were all different and like you know the only director I could think of who like came out with his career in terms

[00:34:26] of like actual like in the theater directorial movies is someone like Jordan Peel but he had a decade as a comedic guy to have these build some credibility of some sort of people

[00:34:38] that he comes out with yeah so he was at least a name where it's like it was a lot different in the 70s but I mean yeah he like you said the gambit of going from like the blockbuster guy

[00:34:48] to what we don't want to take him serious but then in the same year he comes out with Schindler's List and Jurassic Park and it's like I couldn't think of another director to put

[00:34:56] two totally opposite movies that are both great for different reasons and two very different genres and again two huge hits I mean Schindler's List is a three hour long Holocaust movie that made

[00:35:08] over $100 million like he's insane so yeah he's he's just a he's he's just one of those really rare things and you kind of get similar like I think like Christopher Nolan is similar to

[00:35:24] him in terms of like the smart blockbuster right but like totally different style but like just like there's there's very few who I think could really do well like you guys said about Martin's

[00:35:33] were sazy more geared towards adults but similar where he could take a like move like woof a wall street it's very accessible to people but it's definitely an adult movie it's not a movie

[00:35:42] you're a shit your kid should watch or you know not a not a purpose yeah no I I'd agree with that it's it's fascinating I think like you say you look back particularly that early stretch of movies

[00:35:58] you say the first five even like maybe discanting 19.41 but everyone has a misfire that's okay but like I mean four out of five ain't bad you know what was it seeing that song but it's

[00:36:14] that's like you said Nick there like as well you look at those it's not just like four decent movies it's like four genre defining yeah yeah yeah and he's doing it in his late 20s

[00:36:25] early 30s you're just like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the other thing I think about what the only thing copper bike I think about is like

[00:36:38] halthomas Anderson making like like like 27 or something like crazy or like Magnolia when he's like 29 30 like that is a movie that I did not understand until I was like 34 years old

[00:36:54] and it's just like yeah that's that's wild ever I feel like every so often like a director comes along he's just like the their maturity level is off the charts and they're like they're maybe

[00:37:03] yeah so like thoughtful and well made and entertaining to watch but challenging at the same time to the audience like close and kind of your right Nick close encounters asks so much of the audience

[00:37:14] right and then it's also grounded in like real world music theory like the the the the the the music that they or the the the the the the the the form of teaching music that they used to

[00:37:27] communicate with the aliens is a known it's way of teaching music called codi and that like you don't have to put that in that movie but they did you know and it's it's long it's slow

[00:37:43] Richard Dreyfist is totally unmicable for large parts of it and he's the lead like isn't challenging moving terrible movie about parenting by the way yeah that would be a total bomb I feel like it became out now because people the audiences

[00:38:00] right now with you like oh it's too slow and then I think it would like be one of those movies that people appreciate as it goes on but it would have been a box office failure because they would have been

[00:38:08] like no this is just not it's the and I enjoy like independent state but it's the opposite of that it is not yet that she there's not funny bits in it really like to and it's just a makes you think about

[00:38:23] it's like I said it's more of like a Christopher Nolan type movie where you're like oh man yeah these themes are all really down and like the ending is not a happy ending and again terrible father

[00:38:34] he's just like okay I'm gonna go off with the aliens now and you're like oh so I guess your family that you had just does not matter like that would that would not fly to be like see see later on he's

[00:38:44] gotta go to the aliens but I'm sure you also brought up think about the movies he produced in the 80s yeah we've we've talking about grandma's back to the future maybe one of the most recognizable

[00:38:55] movies of the 80s yeah who framed Roger Rabbit which was a big groundbreaking movie with animation and live action like he just he's had his finger prints on so many things that it's it's just like

[00:39:08] god where do you sleep sir because you also have 10,000 children and like yeah it's crazy that's the thing it like he's always like from like quite early over you can read stuff about he wanted to

[00:39:21] fashion himself as well Disney which I think is quite telling as it's like yes a guy who's making stories that are quite universal and people have a lot of love with but also being quite a savvy

[00:39:33] and at times quite ruthless businessman as well I had tied into that it this is a man who's like worth multiple around me billions of dollars due to the fact he's got business ventures outside

[00:39:45] of film he's got these in theme parks he's in television he's in video games he's in music some more successful than others but at that he's a mogul he's like he's it yeah and it's kind of annoying

[00:39:58] that he's also as good as an artist such it's good yeah it'd be very easy to dislike spill but because you're just like this this so and so I'm trying to explain is really too good

[00:40:15] what he does and even just like the what it seems to me looking at the films that he has produced almost of the many way you could scroll down that list and see him directing pretty much any

[00:40:27] one of those films like he doesn't just like his name on something and there's like yeah yeah whatever I mean we joked on our poll to guys episode like that all in ten some purposes basically directed

[00:40:39] that film even though there is some debate about that but yeah it's none of the things he is involved in feel like just that he's taken a paycheck even the things that his

[00:40:52] movies that I've not liked as much and there are some particularly later ones I really actively dislike ready play a one but you still can't say that his whole heart is not in that project yeah

[00:41:05] and it and the same goes for his films that he has produced as well it's just like you could absolutely see him directing a film like back to the future you could see him directing a film like

[00:41:16] poll to guys probably kind of did and pretty much any of the other films they'll come for you Sarah the TV we feel like do you come for you? we go said a lot of messages off to the episode

[00:41:29] someone we got we got a tweet from an account that was like yeah it's really nice really aggressive about yes yeah he's like writing a book like to prove the TV or yeah it was weird it was weird but

[00:41:42] yeah I mean to your points I really like I could also see him at a certain point in his career having directed transformers you know what I mean like yeah so maybe it's but like yeah you can

[00:41:50] really see even super transformers movies sounds like something that exists like I feel like you can absolutely yeah yeah yeah I mean like you could absolutely mandela effects I wanted to thinking

[00:41:59] it would be because it's not that far out of the normal class of the life well oh to pick up on that thread I think that's that's the thing I find first name right the amblin side of things right

[00:42:09] is so many of those movies I think before it was aware that he was a producer I just thought he directed them yeah like before right like the band's so too grandminton's goonies it was like

[00:42:20] oh yes he must have directed them right like he was involved like you see especially when you see that logo and it's you know obviously connected to E.T you're sort of child brain just goes oh so

[00:42:30] he made this one as well yeah and then somebody when you go already realize oh oh oh that's really interesting I like you say it's the thread of then you go through and like listen to Andy listen to

[00:42:39] and Josh go through the lot of those movies it's always a fun game to be like which one did he direct which one yeah it's like and it just feels like enough that a lot of them start with like

[00:42:48] spillberg what's thinking about directing this one literally like the Sarah's point it feels like just a flip of a coin if you're set is he busy that week you know it's like the name of the

[00:42:59] Christmas movie where it says Tim Bray Nightmare Before Christmas but he didn't direct everyone's like all that's a word movie and it's like the director's like well well hey I'm honest

[00:43:08] like a spillberg if you produce is it if I'm the director I'm like yeah through your name on it it's like make it fit because you're Steven Spielberg and you're giving me a chance to do something but

[00:43:18] like you said Sarah he it's not a hey throw my name on this because like I got to do something like cause producing is a you're either giving money or you're actually helping and he is really come off

[00:43:31] is like the I want to help Bradley Cooper talked about and I know my story was a very devise of movie but like Bradley Cooper talked about how he texted Spielberg and Spielberg's like oh I got the

[00:43:41] messages like they would go back and forth on stuff and Spielberg's like well just hey I want to give you credit I've never tried to act and direct the same thing he's like so you're doing a good job

[00:43:53] like it was a very mentor thing and like I could like that would be like the ultimate compliment if you're Bradley Cooper got oh my god Steven Spielberg's telling me I'm doing good and likes my

[00:44:03] shot like I don't care if anyone else likes the movie because this man just told me he enjoyed it so yeah you know you just was so if you're listening Spielberg feel free if you want to I can't stop me I'm doing well granddad

[00:44:19] you know DePomas says that he directed one shot in Scarface right like he was visiting said I was like hey can I try something he didn't let me get it there and mix it up a little bit

[00:44:32] and like yeah he he directs the shot of the guys like coming over the wall or whatever with the ropes and I want to just like it's just right now is his own film because it's just like Steven I'm

[00:44:42] fine oh you got a story about John Goodman kind of didn't love Spielberg on the set of a picture holding into fence because he did that yeah he forced him

[00:44:55] to be in front of Winston at that table where he but then he said that like he would show up on set and then just like hang out in the passenger seat of the truck that he the exterminator

[00:45:06] truck that he had and would like duck down just under the like the lens of the camera as like a little prank that he would he would see the final product he would know he's in that

[00:45:15] shot just on a frame so you could be doing Steven like feeling the face off the guy the impulter guys like if you guys have seen that shot um that behind the scene shot of him wearing

[00:45:30] the prosthetic face and he's got kid in a candy store like he is delighted to be doing that by the way just watch the Flintstones the other day it didn't have a long time I still enjoy

[00:45:43] the movie but yeah it's still like it's still fun but it is like this is like it's Spielberg direct this at first because it has a very hook vibe to it yeah I'm just that's

[00:45:54] everything yeah yeah but respect on bright love aren't names yeah no I don't know about you guys to me this kind of speaks of there's a couple of things you can pick out here for what we've just

[00:46:09] discussed already it's one the man clearly loves his craft right yeah like he's clearly passionate about it and two what's nice is I think he obviously recognises talent you don't see

[00:46:18] it and let you say that feeling of being a producer as you said not just to go and I go okay yeah I need a production company here's some money off to go you know come back to me at the end of

[00:46:27] the year with the bill it's more like you said I believe in this project let's see where it goes alright I'll do it and I think about to feature like one of the sort of best examples

[00:46:38] is right this idea of him championing apprentice and I'd like you guys you know so we're chatted on your episode about that and then and I've done another episode since about back to the future and just the more hair about it and like behind the scenes you realize

[00:46:52] films like that how much of a struggle it was to get it made and you think it wouldn't have existed if you didn't have someone like Spielberg in there going oh no trust me this is gonna pay off

[00:47:02] this is gonna be worth it and we're pushing back on that stupid name change thanks you're never said we got a whole gutter yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like it's based man from Pluto yeah okay

[00:47:20] alright like you're saying hot but Harley does like it I mean so makers is the biggest example of that are just being like someone who kind of takes under his wing produces his first couple

[00:47:28] of movies so makers like I need to make one by myself without you to think like do yeah man so happens still no one's taking back future so he's used to guide it and he'll get that

[00:47:37] over the line a lot those early ammon ones are like even beyond like the direct is it's right as he likes a like Chris Columbus move uh grandparents and the goonies and then even like

[00:47:50] reading about what they kind of like atmosphere of ambling and taming itself was as a building to go and work it's like there was a you know a chef just always cooking for whatever people wanted

[00:48:00] there was a massive like pick a mix thing everyone was going around on scooters and skateboards it sounds like a playground and something like you kind of when then you read about what the

[00:48:11] kind of dream or dream works was the kind of idea to build this massive campus and how that as a house where all these people like to make us and Chris Columbus and all these all these

[00:48:23] people that he's kind of back there would like all the artists he loves and wants to support and how that is kind of like safe hub where everyone can kind of come and make their new

[00:48:33] views without really a big studio handing in notes and the variety of reasons that never kind of panned out for dream works in quite the way particularly I think spill bone division wasn't quite lining up with business partners and Jeffrey Cassonburg and David Gaffin and also

[00:48:55] the big dream campus that they had that they wanted to build with a massive lake where you could like row a boat into your office each day they've got planning permission because they wanted to build

[00:49:05] it on like swampland it was like just a variety of things that like it wanted to dream works like we're actually back we're in the way to take a time and you instead the man said the world need track right

[00:49:24] how do we get the messages about out to the masses I wanted to build that studio on a swamp there it is which I wonder so you all know about sure where Chris Farley had recorded like half the movie I want

[00:49:46] what song would have played head strike come out 97 or 98 when Farley was doing the recordings because smash mouths all star would not have been around that so I wonder what band to shed could have got some you could have that was like lined up and then they're like

[00:50:02] star your hits two years old so we can't use it for track so what band I could play this is how he's thinking yeah it would have been one week and what absolutely now I think about I was gonna say yeah I'm gonna put it in a pot

[00:50:22] American pie they couldn't you yeah you wouldn't be able to use that in both track and we come to an American pie it's at the very end it's also in 10 things as well 99 was a big gift for one week

[00:50:41] I mean I guess everything everywhere all at once but when did story of a girl come out that was 2001 I think say yeah no I think you get what you give by new radicals would have been

[00:50:54] now we can have a whole podcast about what would have been in shritchley I'm looking at releases for nights ever and like my personal preferences I'm like well death tones it's just a thought so my own song or whatever you're gonna be on something ready

[00:51:08] or radio ahead if you want to make really depressing I'm just trying to hang a nose with the end of the song it's a very different movie it's a very different movie everything in its right place

[00:51:23] yeah no either that either that it doesn't put just long drugs and he ends up listening to the projities fat in the land twisted fire start running around yeah I wanted to with the wet sprocket yeah that's it and instead we got smashed mouth

[00:51:44] and stabbed we got smashed my chest teeth tell us all the time it is yeah or it's spice or it's spice world I send to the wife just seen on that and that's the one in the world hang himself I would have made it

[00:52:01] you brief smash mouth aside because I have to tell this story since I live in this city now you're a member when smash mouth got bread thrown at them at that music festival yes yeah yeah that happened in the town I live in now

[00:52:15] also for the audience if you haven't seen that clip it's really funny because he is cursing out the audience and the rest of the band is just sadly playing all star in the background while he's yelling at these people it's slow the other version incredible funny

[00:52:34] you know that was the original song for the trailer for the social network just so piano version of all star yeah sung by a children's choir yes yeah that's the horror movie version yeah yeah Jordan Keeals you have a shred track as a Frankenstein situation yeah that's yeah

[00:53:07] that's what it is so done that's how long are we talking about before yeah yeah yeah or would have been bluer sung too yeah song to you would have been a good one again I like I like the slow sad versions that we're coming up

[00:53:29] yeah what about like an inter what's interstate love song Evan oh STP yeah quite nice yes what'll 90 strike come up with like a whole podcast series on what songs depending on what year in the 99 a throughfires color in the shape I'm just so record would have been a

[00:53:55] that loop yeah that's the soundtrack yeah yeah yeah you go it's a Dave girl please we desperately need yeah yeah yeah you know how prints are the Batman 18 years old yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[00:54:07] yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah spider webs would have ended up and there at some point too right oh yeah well didn't they do you just a girl in tricked you isn't that you're not not rough good and say right

[00:54:21] you're just a spider do you like her second google second google here we go counting crows a lot crows I was gonna yeah yeah yeah yeah so counting crows the Dave of Bowie obviously changes that was in the lips incorporated for a funcuit tone.

[00:54:50] I swear just the girl is in one of those words. It's a full love with someone, just full love with. Yeah, you're not. Can't remember who did that cover there. Pete, people ain't no good. Oh yeah, then it cave. Yeah, that's right. That's a random bit.

[00:55:08] There's a Nick Cave song. Yeah, it's it's reference very very. Yeah, yeah, I'm not getting it. I'm not getting it. Okay, I mean, I can't remember. That's so good. By the way, everyone this, this is not the time to imagine but going up.

[00:55:45] Quick, people break down. No, we're not talking about I feel like any will. Welcome to our track podcast. It's not a secret. This is the Shrek Maltime verse episode. Sorry, it's sorry Nick, do you go on? No, he, you know he has a cameo and blues brothers, right?

[00:56:01] I don't know. Yeah, watch it. Oh yeah, and I'm like, I don't know the story behind it, but just like what a random pop-up he had in, you know, in this early 80s movie where he was telling his friends with land is right. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:56:17] Like it's weird. It's not here. He's like up in more stuff considering he's going to pass the album. Yeah, I'm just like, yeah, he's a god. What do you point in the sky as well? Is he? He is.

[00:56:32] He is this cool. So can't be over. Oh, on his IMDB ends, cameo is he is in the following movies. He is in Paul. Yeah. Alien movie. He's coming in there. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he is in Austin Powers. He's a gold member specifically. He's in Villeta Sky,

[00:56:47] Men and Black, Lost World. You and your studio Tiny Tune Adventures, Tracy Allman Show, Cindy Lourper in the music video of God. That is some character. A. He's not some that music. Yeah. Gramlins. I'm sorry. Here's a template. Templar Doom, Blues Brothers,

[00:57:09] Jaws, something evil and the last gun. And that's all of his acting cameo's. Which technically, a few of those are voices because Jaws, he's just a voice. But tension. We have a question mark about one extra in the scene where Mrs. Kittner confronts

[00:57:24] Brody. Yeah. I didn't like that. Like I see that. That dude looks a lot like Spielberg. Yeah. Well, he's credited as Amity Point Life Station work. Yeah. As I was saying, there's every chance that yeah, that character could just be in the background of a shot

[00:57:43] of the tension. There's a guy dressed as like the Gordon's fisherman in that scene and it looks so much like Spielberg. That was funny. He just showed up like that. They're like,

[00:57:52] Steven, you want to be in the camera? Yeah. I just want to get in this one shot. I love that. So many of these as well. My favorite one. I absolutely, everyone here is from the Lost World Popcorn Eating Man.

[00:58:07] It's just up there with the Jimmy Little Fin, the Lost World David caps the guy. Yeah, he gets a lot of side to video stories. Yeah, that's what I don't remember. Spielberg it must have been a really quick. Yeah. Because he's not like the Jimmy Buffett

[00:58:23] cameo in. Oh, oh, oh. It's just, you know, it's one of the, which is not the first Spielberg adjacent movie with a Jimmy Buffett Yeah, that one did a song for a rat in a phobia. He's a, he's a, he's a, he's a,

[00:58:41] he's the one of the pirates that steals Peter Shoes. Oh, wow. I mean, I know like Glenn closes the guy who gets, he or he killed by the score. What a random cam, he ought to be where

[00:58:56] he gled. I got a great role for you as this. There are so many random like musicians and like stuff in that movie. There's, isn't like Pete, weren't in it or someone, uh, oh gosh, who still Collins is in it? Yeah. Yeah. Jimmy Buffett, George Lucas

[00:59:19] and Carrie Fisher are in it. That's so amazing. That's why I was like a guy. David, Christby's in it. He's like the whole pirate ship just full of musicians because I don't have

[00:59:29] the kind of, basically. Yeah. So Phil Collins is one of the detectives who like, he's in like a real yeah, she has lines. Yeah, he does that line. He's like, I could feel it coming. He saw like, remrelated murders. He walks into the set of, dude, dude, dude.

[00:59:55] We're at that come from, it's just happens. He's like, is it my contract guys? My contract with God. What can I do? Did you imagine that everywhere he walked around?

[01:00:13] The police was as soon as he had a really good, dude, dude, dude, dude, he's like, sorry guys, God. Yeah, he's not playing there. I'm afraid of my country. Yes. He's just going, imagine him just going in and I've room somewhere. Oh, I forgot my keys.

[01:00:30] He comes back and, oh no, sorry, I've got my own phone. I'm just doing this. He's like, good, he's finally down. crap, I love my phone in there. I am cursed. Yeah, yeah. This is what Loki was talking about when he said glorious purpose.

[01:00:56] I love it. I love it. I knew this episode would be chaos. It's so much fun. It's delivered as promised. It's brilliant. Oh, dude. So I want to swing back around you guys. I want to know what your sort of top five

[01:01:13] personal favorites are for Spielberg. I know for big, big, big. Actually, you know what? I'll extend it to top, if we say top 10 because there's quite a lot. We could yeah, I know MJ is giving me the eyes that are still like, okay, top 25.

[01:01:30] Just run through the photography. Yeah. Top 34. Exactly exactly. Yeah, let's if you guys want to start like what would you say? You're sort of, and again, this is personal favorites. I don't think there's any wrong answers here. Would you like to go to sending orders?

[01:01:52] Yeah, why not? I thought 10 days ago. I would say like kind of like, he is one of those guys that I think is made like at least 10 to 15 solid like arguably most of the pieces.

[01:02:06] Yeah, yeah. I know I cut quite like the the moment of Spielberg we're in now where he's quite like. So there's like there's I've got a couple that I kind of more my top 10 that are

[01:02:18] quite recent. Like Shindler's list is in that I'd say coming in that top 10 it's an interesting one where it's like someone's still kind of rock, rock and with that kind of maturity into that kind of more dramatist director but it's quite under nine when it's perp.

[01:02:37] AI I think is like only gets better every time I watch it. West Side Story I loved. So next so yeah, saving private rhyme for the kind of the way it's grappling with what a board movie is and kind of again being a bit more than

[01:02:56] what the surface might suggest. I would have the favourments kind of knocking just outside of the top five but that is something I can see just climbing and climbing climbing each

[01:03:08] time I come back to that. Yeah, that I've kind of got like my core five that I like always kind of like I think it would be very hard for these five to kind of not be the top five really.

[01:03:22] It's Raiders, E.T. Yeah, Flies and Counters, Dressett Park and George I mean that's it's like a pretty perfect summation of what he is and what he can do in five movies. It's hard I was just like

[01:03:39] going through his films quickly just to see if I could allow 10 10 is really hard but like I've got I think like Andy I've got my like my core five even then I just change the ground because I

[01:03:50] realized I got some Jurassic Park absolutely. That's a core five that you're like head to switch what. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because I was just thinking about closing counters and how much

[01:03:58] I love that but that's that's just outside my top five I think along with dual which I love favourments really really like as well. I don't if I can put this in an order apart from

[01:04:10] George which is always my number one and everyone knows that I feel but the rest of my kind of core five is Jurassic Park Raiders, Shinnless List and West Side Story. I respect the love of West Side

[01:04:22] Story because I always know one has been more nervous than me going into that film because I love I love the original and everyone kept asking me like how I felt about it and I was like

[01:04:36] I don't know why they're remaking a masterpiece and there was like but it's Spielberg and I was like yeah but like he could make something else like I don't know if I necessarily need to see it and then I saw it and was like

[01:04:48] you saw it. He said he said he said story. Yeah, it's great yeah it's I mean even just like going through the films that that man is directed. It's crazy. He has a director who would like kill to how

[01:05:07] that filmography it's just in sight. The films that he has made and like even even the misses and there's not that many some other people that would be like one film. It's still like

[01:05:18] it's released as a sentient or a scene or like just even just the way it's still like is mixed and blonde it's still like just like well that's undeniably well made even if I don't

[01:05:28] like getting very much. I really don't like ready player one there are some shots in that movie that are white like the backwards driving race thing at the beginning is just a what? What?

[01:05:41] Yeah and like even his like doing his Kubrick bit as well with the shining shining stuff in it. I still hate ready player one but that stuff I'm like oh that's fun he has to play and

[01:05:53] like bring out his in a Kubrick like clear and direct to hear my eyes because everyone does and obviously the AI thing as well you know it's well-beg completing that and yeah it's there's

[01:06:07] always something I don't think I mean even 1941 which we hate but also weirdly talk about a lot it's a it's a awesome amazing thing. It was like hitting everything was great and then

[01:06:24] what we kind of took that up to when we spoke about it on our episode was like no one was telling him no and he needed to have that he needed to have that film the you know through everything

[01:06:36] at the walls to see what to see what stuck and for it to fail like he needed that to happen to then come out of the other side of it and make the films that came after that because it hasn't had

[01:06:45] that he could have would have potentially burned out quicker I think like having that you know moment of being like all right maybe I just need to really like get a little yeah and then like

[01:06:59] it comes after that I mean it's yeah yeah it's kind of interesting as well to back about that like you because you kind of argue that 1941 is meant to be kind of like a fast

[01:07:09] school comedy right it's him sort of diving into it and you look at the rest of his movies and he doesn't really touch that genre ever again you know which one of the films just have like

[01:07:20] little for a life example of your guys it like whenever you try to film full out comedy struggles I think the closest he came to like a comedy because it's in my top 10 and no one's mentioned it yet but

[01:07:32] catch me if you can I think has a lot of very well-gased comedic moments from yes but he'll lose his virginity and he just stops like why he goes this is the best state I think that's a life the things with like do you concur some funny yeah

[01:07:49] or do you want to go yeah yeah no yeah so so kind of obviously like Sarah and I'm sure MJ will have this one. JAWS is my number one and as you were asking me I'm looking at my

[01:08:01] Funko Pop Wall of JAWS Indiana Jones Jurassic Park and my Spielberg figure that they came out with Mattel did and I'm like okay well those three obviously but yeah we go JAWS

[01:08:13] Jurassic Park Indiana Jones and then I'd have like save and private Ryan catch me if you can are like my top five and then now the fable meant is coming to the top 10 uh last crusade

[01:08:24] because I just enjoy that once so much um and then like E.T. in closing counters I discovered closing counters way later like just a few years ago it was like the first time I really

[01:08:35] set to like watch, watch it through and I'm like man that's just an amazing movie and then it's tough because he's got a lot on there but one that I really like and it's not a masterpiece by any means but I like it still a lot is actually

[01:08:52] the post I really enjoy. I know people like the fact that he did that movie and like to like a month and a half like it was like a quick like turnaround he's like a bit of a

[01:09:01] time he does a story yeah two for two for years so here we go yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but yeah those will probably be mine and like said the fable men's and what side story

[01:09:12] to just keep creeping in because I'm like man the the what side story that's it looks good it's like some of the changes he made yeah it's small choice and yeah and then uh I'm it's weird though

[01:09:25] the fable men's really does feel like it would be his like last ever movie because it's basically his biopic and like I'm like gotta can't wait till this bullet movie comes out because I just want

[01:09:35] another Spielberg movie because it's like how does he be like A.D. and it's like no stop just stop A.J. please yeah yeah yeah feel that same way about crusade too or yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like

[01:09:47] you know man keep it up yeah but MJ I'm tired no Marty you're not but I don't I'm just gonna be okay I believe you guys he's been on Twitter a lot but the the Marty's Crusades Mastercard commercial from the early 2000s oh yeah pictures

[01:10:04] one of the funniest commercials ever in this way he's like look at his shot he's like kind of as a look he's like beautiful he's like okay puts it back down and then he's like

[01:10:12] we're super tagging it we're the antagonist though come on you know I need a new role like sorry sorry sorry about the tangent so a piece of that male may not have made it into

[01:10:21] the jingle for let's play with mine just sound right that's it that's for him I did not realize that he's from the commercial yeah that's really funny there you go yeah really joy-eaching that my top 10 my top 10 might have a couple controversial ones and it's

[01:10:39] specifically my number four one I'd like to see yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah never tell you I really like this movie whatever I know this is one people point to is his like saccharine yes but I really love the terminal a lot yeah I like the

[01:10:57] subway yeah it's great Tom Hanks is amazing in it there's that one's really funny too yeah like e-tabite e-tabite like that thing when I very John Williams scores as well oh yeah it's so good what's the like rebuilt that set like they they can film in the actual

[01:11:16] airport so they just built this like big yes we should have the terminal but another director's name on that one though I'm Jane I bet you people they call my god it's amazing you're like

[01:11:27] steelburg so I like it should be better yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I say the same thing about bridge of spies all the time like I feel like that maybe got an adventure

[01:11:36] surprise as well good and I feel like that's a movie that everyone was like we'll spill over can do this in a sleep and so like because he can do that kind of movie and his

[01:11:45] sleep it doesn't get the credit as they're the post as well right where it's great but like this was someone's first movie we wouldn't shut up about it yeah yeah number nine is catching

[01:11:56] if you can great movie great performances great cast like very good vibes like it's it's his vibe he is too but yeah also really good square awesome opening title sequence yeah last

[01:12:09] crusade number nice hey yeah west side story number seven I've not seen west side story the original so I don't know what the changes are nice clean take with this one

[01:12:20] yeah yeah yeah yeah no crowd will say people die I'm joking yeah yeah yeah yeah I think there's two really bad lead performances in that movie and it's still great favourments number six I think about that maybe all the time like there's there's shots

[01:12:42] of that movie we're just like like what how do you like the way he blocks people in a scene is just yeah it's unreal and one of the most underrated performances is his sister the the young actress

[01:12:53] who she is the glasses she's like and wants to put a time in Hollywood as well she's got his cup in her yeah she's great in that and once my time out but yeah she's so good in that movie

[01:13:03] I'm like wow they didn't get enough credit for how good she is in her scenes the underrated performance I think about in that movie is the woman the place is girlfriend yeah she's so funny in

[01:13:16] that movie but she's so sweet to him too like she does it really like it could be a really broad performance and he finds some really good moments of humanity with her throughout that movie

[01:13:27] like he directs the crap out of her as an actress like there's the moment I think about the most is when he shooting on the beach and she like comes up behind him and like nozzles him on

[01:13:35] the beach yeah it's so sweet it's so sweet so sweet I love that movie number five is dual nice great I can imagine that man at your first movie right you can you imagine like what it's a sweaty movie

[01:13:55] number four one that has not been mentioned the adventures of 10 10 I've oh I love that I like 10 10 fun movie yeah it's a good movie it's great I think it's so I think if there's an underseed Spielberg movie it's that yeah I've only ever seen

[01:14:10] probably I don't see that since it's in my release so I'm looking forward to coming back to that one there yeah I think if I like spiral seeing yeah when I just go into this then kind of the way

[01:14:22] that just rotates and animation is hot yeah watching Spielberg like the waste Spielberg moves a camera is already like the best to ever do it basically watching him be unbound from the laws

[01:14:34] of like actual like limitations of a room in physics like it is one of the few times we're like giving a director like no limits has paid off I think yeah Bobby's in Mac and it's just been

[01:14:45] like this mode caps not work and still goes like oh my dear yeah yeah exactly that's exactly he was uh Spielberg you go like here hold my milk yeah you never seen the clip of like

[01:15:02] it's like Spielberg diploma copula and Scresese hanging out at a house party in the like late 70s early 80s and it's just like where is the cocaine like what how was their not co-coated any show of them like him and and Scresese being such good friends because they

[01:15:23] are so polar opposite of like they're they're upbringing like how they direct movies but like that's 70s group of them were so influential and you put George Lucas in it even though his

[01:15:35] main thing was just Star Wars but like they were all buddies and all like what a competitive thing to be like who's your friends Scresese to Paul Ma and now we got like all these other guys coming

[01:15:45] up and it's like what do you guys do we just show each other our movies I've been like yeah that's that's gotta be the most nerve-racking like no action ever like what did you think of it Marty

[01:15:55] is it like the little alien when he talks to the kids like yeah lovers of cocaine yeah I was like that light like Francis Paul copula's been like Star Wars made us lose America's great as some most promising experimental film maker yeah there is one isn't there a

[01:16:18] clip of them talking about Star Wars and they're like one of us hated it and someone like he doesn't say who in the other the interview was like was it department and he's like it's a

[01:16:25] number that's a problem yeah the brand of Paul Ma is the opening crawl because he goes this movie makes no tense George you need like something that shows what the hell happened before all

[01:16:36] this place and he was the only one of their friends who like the rough cut of Star Wars just like this is a fun movie and I'm like yeah you really thought the Paul Ma's were sazy would watch

[01:16:49] that be like yeah this is cool yeah where's the one where's the got so he's the drugs what's the case cocaine yeah yeah yeah yeah um uh number three Jurassic Park I mean all

[01:17:05] time right yeah just yes absolutely uh number two Raiders it's I think it's a perfect movie like it's it is it is a perfect movie it's best opening to ever yeah yeah you guys ever seen the

[01:17:18] Soterberg cut of uh I'd seen it but it's been a few clips of that set collecting around on Twitter a lot more recently for whatever reason that yeah black and white cut with the social networks

[01:17:30] cool yeah yeah the whole film black and white and then put the social networks go around to it um and he the reason he did it was done. No dialogue yeah it's completely muted

[01:17:43] and the reason he did it was specifically so that he could study how Spielberg frames his shot so he took on any distraction away from that um and then like put put he put it on mine but the

[01:17:55] reason he did it was so that he could like look at Spielberg's camera motion and like framing and blocking of actors within it and that was like some reason there was within the 21st century

[01:18:05] that he did that. So like it's so interesting that that movie that is you know almost 50 years old is still just like filmmakers contemporary filmmakers or modern day filmmakers are just like how

[01:18:17] the f*** like how do you do this and that was him rushing through that movie where he's like I can't take all this yeah we got to come in under budget and under schedule like yeah and then number one draws obviously right man oh you're really number 11 poltergeist

[01:18:47] number 12 the one seen in Scarface number 13 the him telling Marty to put the Nero in the made outfit and didn't get it. Fantastic. As you can see I have the dog the dog has entered the podcast you do. It's dinner time isn't it?

[01:19:12] Which one is he for me to put the dog in the and then I can go and feed him. It's the podcast dog jingles. The dog cast part jingles. Cute the music. Where were we? We were at the end of the list where we were in the day.

[01:20:10] Yeah, you got to give us your tab time. There you go. Straight from a jingle. Okay, so yeah my top 10. I'm glad you guys are weren't actually because it was one of those questions I

[01:20:19] threw out there and then I thought that was a bit crad in give anyone time to prepare for that. Now I can let my life go. What have us been ready? The rest of us just scrambling.

[01:20:30] Now I love the mix and I'm yeah mind is pretty similar. I mean I put west side story at 10 because yeah, the musicals are kind of a new thing for me. I say new is the first episode of this show and for a reason because

[01:20:44] I've always been a bit kind of like, no. And then that's kind of how this whole thing started. Now you've been from there. I know what. I'm actually genuinely gutted. I didn't get to see one curtain cinema.

[01:20:54] I was never stated because I've heard nothing but good things if they're making sure they're not. It's good so. I liked Marko. Okay, so yeah, so like stuff like that, I'm just curious more than anything now.

[01:21:06] But yeah, let's do it. So as you say, west I story and I'm absolutely classic anything. I don't know and it's a funny one isn't it? Because like you guys have said, like Spielberg is just a great director even the stuff where you kind of go,

[01:21:20] I don't care. I'm not a fan of that. Yeah, the thing I saw before that would have been ready player one. I thought it was fine. But as you say, it was, yeah, but what's this going to be like, and then you watch it

[01:21:30] and you go, oh, this is Spielberg. This is the guy. This is why he's one of the best and it's just a solid solid performance all the way through. Chinders list, I put a number nine because just a fan to the movie.

[01:21:44] Yeah, yeah, again like that and safe and proud Ryan. I put that as number eight. Those are like films you watched at school, particularly studying history right? And again, an amazing thing that he's done there right with making films that are not only big blockbusters and reach people

[01:21:58] but you could argue they're educational. Oh, yeah, so it's a little bit of the way that they portray things. In portray things, it's incredibly realistic. It gets the brutality of war, which is something that not every war movie gets right?

[01:22:09] Totally. You can either be a bit over the top of it, hero and a bit of a war movie since private Ryan is chasing private Ryan. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Absolutely. I mean, like watch all quite in the Western Front

[01:22:23] last year on Netflix, which is phenomenal. But a whole time on watching it going like. Yeah, someone watch, someone watch, saving private Ryan. Wow. Yeah, so in Mal tried to make it as come back movie, right? Like that. So, I think you will have a Jack's heart ridgrip,

[01:22:36] soft saving private Ryan. There he goes. There he goes. Then yeah, number seven, my Norris airport. Nice. Just an amazing film. Love sci-fi. Love sci-fi. It was a concept. Yeah, it's just moving. Fantastic all the way through.

[01:22:54] Last year's stage, number six because I mean, it's just one of my favorite. Ever movie. Yeah, when Sean Connory passed few years ago, it was the first one I went to. Yeah, I'm just going to rewatch this because it's brilliant.

[01:23:08] AI number five. Nice. I mean, you guys actually, I loved your episode by way. Also, massive world, I don't forget a Mark mode on like, first of all, bats. Yeah, we couldn't quite believe ourselves. But just your whole conversation you guys had about it.

[01:23:22] I was just nodding away furious. I was just like, yes, you're so right. I don't understand why people hate this movie because it's actually really good. I thought it was really solid and I think about that. Yeah, absolutely agree with you.

[01:23:36] It's like, it's a strange piece of work. It is. It is. You have to go back to it. You have to go back to it if you have like anyone

[01:23:46] listening to it. So it's like a notion of AI in their head from only having seen it once or not. I haven't seen it at all. Please revisit it. It leans into the thing that I was

[01:23:56] hoping to chat to you guys about anyway as well, is this idea of the kind of common criticisms that's filled with against right of like, oh, it's too schmaltcy or he's playing too much of his personality. It's the MGM with you when you're rolling

[01:24:09] if you're eyes on it because I'm just like, I was thinking about this today. And I was like, the whole thing of a director we touched upon this earlier is you're a base, you are an artist, right? It's moving making as an art form.

[01:24:20] And any artist ever will put their kind of stamp if you will on a piece of art. That's what makes it there. That's what makes it recognizable unique. So I've never understood this criticism of like, oh, Spielberg has put his personality into this movie

[01:24:36] as a criticism. It's like, what do you mean? That's something to talk people too. And surely that's a good thing. You can recognize it. It's like, do me at some people go, oh, I recognize this as a Dave Groul song. It's like your point being

[01:24:50] like, it's what they do. Like, Dave Groul scutters. And like, yeah, and that is a guy who's still moving, made a Spielberg move. That's the thing. You can do that with any like, popular director right? Where it's like, we're saying to move you back up.

[01:25:06] It's like, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. But it's just a strange thing, right? To criticize somebody for doing what they do. But then let's say, AI is a great study piece where

[01:25:18] you guys brought the sound in your episode about how actually it's a great example of how that criticism is also so misguided, right? Because often the things that people attribute to a Spielberg in that movie, it's like, no, it's the other way around that.

[01:25:30] Yeah. And it just kind of goes to show that like, yeah, that criticism is so unfounded. Any kind of preconceived notions you might have of someone based on certain elements that their work won't always bear out. Particularly as people grow as artists and

[01:25:46] develop. Yeah. And like, they're Spielberg moving, made in 2020 is not the same as a Spielberg moving made in 1980. It's like, there's this, there's this change, there's the charity and all that comes and all that comes with that as well. Absolutely.

[01:26:05] It's if someone is like Spielberg only makes Schmaltz, like nostalgic films. I mean, time that they've not watched every Spielberg. That's a new idea. I think it has a little bit of a language like, oh, Scorsese only makes gangster films

[01:26:23] and I'm like cool to me if watch like five Scorsese music. Like it's just to to boil down a director just to just let one thing. But also where they to use that as a

[01:26:33] criticism like like, yeah, using emotion. I'm directing good fellows. Oh my god, it's like for the terrible criticism. I know like, oh my god, how terrible that is, raging ball and good fellows which are in Matthew really, no, no. But with Spielberg,

[01:26:55] they like people say, and like, oh, you know, using that as a criticism against him. It's just like he is able to put emotion into his films and also get emotion from an audience. And

[01:27:05] you think that's a bad thing that he is going to need to feel what you're supposed to be feeling in this in this film or in this moment. Like I, there are films I'm pushing too far.

[01:27:17] I think hook is one of those films. I do not like that film. Yeah. But for the people that it works for, and there are some very passionate fans out there. That's fine. If you've got

[01:27:28] these warm fuzzy happy childhood memories of it, then that's great. And that's I wouldn't criticize that. But it's just like, it's if you think a director is only one thing, you even don't know them well enough or it's just like you're picking up on the wrong thing to

[01:27:44] criticize here. I think it's just like you're criticizing them for the thing that they do well. And that's to me just doesn't make any sense. Yeah, I completely agree. Yeah, it's this, something that's I've never fully understood. It happens with a lot of particularly popular

[01:28:01] film makers who get to a point where they say you bit Katissa. Naturally there's just going to be a back clash or yeah. Yeah. It's like it's totally being set. Yeah. It's like, and it becomes too good. And people that started writing it, even they're like,

[01:28:15] well, look, they're good. I mean, Spielberg went through it where there was plenty of directors who didn't like him because they were like, ah, this guy's movies make money and it's like,

[01:28:23] is he supposed to apologize for making Indiana Jones? Yeah. Like, sorry, people like to go watch his movies like you don't apologize for that. And I just think I think part of it gets to be jealous.

[01:28:35] See, and part of it is also he's he's a more optimistic usually in his movies, but then he makes plenty of dark movies that are not optimistic. And I mean, he's very, he's a very pro American

[01:28:47] filmmaker, but he also will call America out on its BS on stuff. And I think yeah, you know, he's, I mean, just look at Schindler's list is a movie about no one doing anything and knowing about

[01:29:00] this terrible thing like that's really what the movie. I mean, obviously it's about the Holocaust, but like it's about how he talked about he's like, I wanted to show this because all these people knew about it and did nothing about this terrible thing going on. And like he's

[01:29:11] he's just he has the secret sauce that I think many people wish they had. And so I think part of that like Schmaltine's is just kind of jealousy that people wish they could do what he does. Yeah.

[01:29:22] That's always been that argument with him as well. That it is hard to deny his part of this DNA of emerging blockbuster filmmakers that have ended up kind of commodifying American film into something

[01:29:35] that's become a bit more kind of safe and packaged and is resolved in the kind of four quarter and plot buses that you kind of get now that a lot of people were saying have kind of like

[01:29:49] pushed out smaller films or more indie films from getting the kind of set-up release. And that's just again, not a criticism I've ever really bought into one because his films are still

[01:30:00] like and lots of big, but sort of films can still be quite art. It can still be art for and just because like a business ended up being business minded doesn't necessarily mean it's

[01:30:13] an evil thing. His all his production stuff as well as a counter argument so that was we were saying earlier he's like championing up and up and up and giving people the opportunities

[01:30:23] and helping them pave the way. So yeah I think the idea of number one film. Yeah, that was funny. I'm joking what you're going to say. What I was going to say I think it's it is such a silly

[01:30:40] criticism right? Like it's I think you have a perfect analogy neck like right now every like she hating the the chiefs is like popular but the chiefs were terrible for so long like they were

[01:30:50] not a good team forever you know and like the same thing happened with the Clippers when you know the Clippers were good and happened with it's happening with the Warriors like that happens

[01:31:00] like as soon as someone gets good it's like well it's cool to hate them right like the Beatles right there's always everyone thinks it's edgy to beat the Beatles and it's like so on it's so

[01:31:10] uninteresting for me to get a personality come on. I actually don't think the most successful thing in popular thing everybody really loves is actually that yeah yeah I'm an Hamilton too right like yeah you know the little memoranders experiencing it right now. It's funny isn't it that's

[01:31:29] especially the more I do this show I'm just like that comes up and like almost every conversation is these people and just a new real eyes very quickly oh this is your entire personality yeah

[01:31:38] you know and then like you say and it's like as soon as you start to press people on it they just don't there's not really any argument yes they're really like if you were like okay why

[01:31:46] it's build like a back-back to then and then like they'll have those same four or five arguments and then we'll go okay what about saving private Ryan or she's in this list of counterbalance

[01:31:54] the smoltsy stuff or what about all this producer credits and then this usually do that they go oh let's go. The easiest one to trap people with is Jax like as soon as they bring in this

[01:32:04] yeah people what do you think about Jax and I go it's pretty good. It's like yeah but every time they go I list the movies I delight my responses after just being when I don't want to

[01:32:12] get in that argument because I know it just annoys people I just go get movie there yeah it was a good movie there yeah it's a miss wild but yeah I'm glad we stopped on that

[01:32:26] point because that was something I was hoping we could discuss well where is your hand we're up to up to number four which is now catch me if you can because

[01:32:35] catch me if you don't like it's a great movie and I just it's one to me that kind of open my eyes up to Lea the Capriars yeah it was being a really solid eye to be a good movie. He's fantastic you know

[01:32:48] and just yeah it's a fascinating thing as well it's one I come back too quite frequently because Connor a story is one of those that are kind of having a bit of a resurgence at the minute

[01:32:57] in like pop culture and sort of true crime I don't know if you guys sort of see much of what trends lately but I came in point like this year no it was last year sorry late last year on a flight

[01:33:08] in my life we're like what listening to the same episode of like a wedding scammer type podcast at the same time and it was fascinating but it's someone on the floor of my wedding

[01:33:23] it might have been yeah I think I think that was one of the many stories it was a wild story but like I got really into that for a couple of weeks just because of the psychology and then I

[01:33:33] found myself coming back to this movie and being like I'll feel good nail that with Lea to Capriars they figured this guy out and that's me as again another great example of if someone brings this up

[01:33:45] now also just go on watch catch me if you can yeah that just kind of sums up how these people think and why they are the way they are like he just gets it and it has a really interesting

[01:33:55] performance from Tom Hanks where he's kind of like he's not quite America's level of a uncle like he's still a nice enough guy he's all right about he's a come-udger he's a grumpy he's actually

[01:34:07] doing his job well he's like like what Lea was doing is wrong yeah I mean it's not like hurting yeah it's a crime is doing job it's a I love I love the scene at the end where they're just

[01:34:22] he's in that like fact yes so manically it's all the way and I just how calm he is and how he's just kind of like they're out there they're gonna kill you like this you've gone too far and that whole

[01:34:34] back and forth between them on that it's just totally locked and last really great of course yeah so we need a story about a shot but you go and make it go and you're gonna lie

[01:34:45] what you got right I really like also one of the few times you hear a timehanks drop the f-bomb I'm sure yeah it's it's interesting it's interesting yeah so it's one of those movies I think is overlooked yeah it's interesting because like Tom Hanks is like the total

[01:35:06] modern amalgam uh analog to Jimmy Stewart right and yeah Spielberg does this thing with Tom Hanks sometimes sometimes he does cast him as straight up Jimmy Stewart the terminal is just a Jimmy Stewart performance right but sometimes he does the thing that hit

[01:35:24] trapped it with Jimmy Stewart or you like a bacon kind of a micable yeah like catch me to KM he's not the like he's he's good at his job but he's like kind of annoying really on the phone

[01:35:37] is one of those scenes where he's just like you got no one to talk to don't yeah yeah yeah yeah calm down calm down yeah exactly yeah even like saying private Ryan it's like he's got a little

[01:35:47] bit more of an edge to him than he does it yeah most other like Tom Hanks performance is like they that that is a that performance is a long way from forest gap you know yeah yeah absolutely

[01:36:00] I'm just I'm just having a look as well because honour i'd be it comes up as sort of under the top 200 films of all time on their thing which is like that's pretty pretty high praise and yeah I think

[01:36:10] Oscar nominees for Christopher walking in a real refund kind of a launching point for Amy Adams to start getting really yeah yeah yeah yeah it's really yeah yeah yeah yeah another director's name on it and it's like their mask yeah yeah yeah and because it's

[01:36:33] feel like it's a visual 15 smash yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah the movie quotes of all time do you concur I say that a lot yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[01:36:48] I'm with you on that it's brilliant this is T-Doo I'm gonna watch it this week as it's the next episode recording so this conversation is T-Doo I was gonna say yeah I felt like yeah I feel like it was

[01:37:00] it's on your list it must be coming up so yeah yeah I'm gonna go through it on after this I'm really yeah yeah yeah this is what I mean it's one of the most recent ones I've ever seen one top

[01:37:10] five yeah raiders lost up number three yes yeah just classic as you know as you guys have said perfect movie really when you think about it and number two and this is why I got really

[01:37:22] start because two and one like these can chop and change yeah on the day you too I think they're the same yeah my heart goes number two jewels number one drastic features yeah close but again just

[01:37:36] solid absolutely solid movies through it's erin what I love about them is it's it's Spielberg doing the same thing twice it's the same thing doing the blockbuster yeah and it's like yeah especially when you watch like the opening the way it's set the themes that are underlying it's

[01:37:50] just like it's someone going away and then like 20 years later coming back and always like doing the same thing and it's just as good almost 20 years exactly too which is crazy yeah yeah

[01:38:01] yeah it's very close to you how many people do that right how many people do that in their career like to talk about the sports analogy that doesn't happen ever right people doing massive come back

[01:38:11] so music it's like how many bands but at an album 20 years later that you go oh that's just as good as their big hit it's rare so for a film director to do it and like you say and then in the same

[01:38:21] media drop-shin those lists like yeah yeah so live as a yes all the time that those movies came out the same here like that doesn't it doesn't compute right like it just shorts are

[01:38:32] getting a brain no matter how much I think about that like imagine a month like two years apart words like this is Spielberg's like crazy blockbuster masterpiece and then this is his like

[01:38:42] the most emotional movies ever made but like how that held that he balance right like okay I'm gonna go from filming this draining movie to I'm gonna go to filming this draining movie and

[01:38:52] we're gonna try something we've never done any of these and it's like yeah we did it in the same year yeah what is it's it's saving private Ryan he says he's in like production on like three or four

[01:39:03] movies at the same time yeah but I think like it was a stud and lost well with the same year yeah then what is there but I think it's a private Ryan yeah well he's just an artist

[01:39:14] yeah he was doing post production on lost world filming on a stud and pre-production on saving private Ryan all at the same time oh what yes he's sleep yeah he's done this a

[01:39:29] bunch he did minority report and catch me if you can both came out of that soon yeah uh more of the world you think 10 they might have in 2005 yeah I think this will cook okay then he's like right yeah 10 10 10 more hours of the same year late it's

[01:39:43] probably it's not cocaine he just takes film stock cuts and all right I'm good to go yeah the only comparable thing I could think of is Mel Brooks releasing blazing saddles in young Frankenstein both on the before yeah yeah yeah you'd imagine like releasing

[01:40:01] both of those movies the same year you're too much like yeah yeah you're too fast it's not like with with jaws and Jurassic Park it's interesting they're saying like it being the same movie and then being sort of like pretty much like 20 years apart those films

[01:40:20] play so well together I watched them in like a cinema double bell same which side note was special because jaws is my favorite film and Jurassic Park is Martin's favorite film so we saw them

[01:40:33] together and it was like that was cute but also just like there like especially like you do jaws first and then you do Jurassic Park and then it's like seeing just the the change in

[01:40:47] Spielberg like the confidence also being able to do like the special effects was a was a big thing because obviously you go from the super unreliable shark puppet to then like these incredible like this yeah it was weirdly emotional and like those films are not

[01:41:07] once and normally make me emotional but watching them together and just being like oh he really he really did that he really just made two of the greatest films of all time and if they're

[01:41:20] pretty much like the only arts where it will accept as someone's top-spel bag apart from jaws is Jurassic Park you guys must be fine. Really look at how good that's CGI looks and then a movie that

[01:41:34] spent the same budget a movie like Godzilla the warm-up you brought Rick that Godzilla looks so bad and it is like a smelly cheese and life and life like Jurassic Park's it's like this looks so

[01:41:49] good it like yes you know it's CGI but you're like Jesus the fact that that looks better then still things that come out today where you're like and then they're spending budgets even

[01:41:59] more crazy and you're like man like that's that's a great example of you're gonna spend a lot of movie get it right and they got it right and they still use the animatronics look fantastic and

[01:42:10] he rides just still scary it's like all of my the raptors look great and like you said jaws and it's such a good double-billing jaws. So when I saw them they did Jurassic Park first which I think is a mistake

[01:42:24] yes yes yes yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah because what I use it they're like seeing the earlier film they made and then then the and then the what he could do later with like you know

[01:42:37] greater advancement in technology and whatever it's also just like you wouldn't have Jurassic Park without just so yeah like you having Jurassic Park play first is just kind of stupid also the pacing is waiting for him like those movies are pacing and driving much slower

[01:43:00] we've got a guest in this studio he wanted to just you want to say hi hi Alex what's your favorite what's your favorite is favorite Spielberg movies the first Raiders you like in the nose okay go

[01:43:23] so it's actually his favorite movie is the Indiana Jones documentary that Disney Plus put out oh yeah yeah you guys seen that Spielberg documentary that HBO did a couple years back

[01:43:45] just good no just called Spielberg yeah I haven't seen it it's okay it's not it's never quite as encompassing as you want it yeah yeah I mean as we've sort of touched upon there's so much

[01:44:02] right you could talk about it this guy I mean I'm sat here like two out of four of us have podcast dedicated to yeah that's still on it off you see his last film something evil but one he directed

[01:44:16] after dual before sugar and a never seen that never seen that is that has a lot of his documentary on HBO we just we're just yeah yeah sorry that's the thing he missed because that actually I asked if anything

[01:44:36] and something evil I'm guessing this is like the pre-cursor at a part it's like a TV movie it's like a possession movie that was made for TV I think it was like post-exorcist like

[01:44:45] hi I think wait what year did something evil come out I got here 72 yeah right around there right because what extra sisters what's any one is that right I've no idea

[01:44:58] oh it is actually just as the I think it's no I think it's 73 yeah it is after yeah I agree oh oh yeah someone always Spielberg a Patriot you heard it first guys I don't know

[01:45:13] we'll even freaking thought about Star Wars I wouldn't know what he thinks about Terry he'll be proud of me I purchased sorcerer on Amazon it was on sale for eight dollars I'm like

[01:45:28] you know what instead of waiting to try to find it on Blu-ray I'm just gonna buy it did it I cannot wait to watch it I'm very excited yeah I never seen sorcerer until I actually

[01:45:39] watched the trailer I thought it was a magical movie and not all would be true prepare for a time I can't wait prepare for a time that is a movie I need to track down as well I think I'm saying I'm gonna watch it you can

[01:45:58] yeah I've just found a boot make version of something evil on YouTube so I'm a watch out there is no there is love it so just just to go back a little bit on this I really

[01:46:12] want to know is like a person's got something you want to say about Spielberg he's more than one old man Spielberg he's like a grandpa Spielberg what's here's Spielberg trauma we want

[01:46:28] yeah it's to come yeah to come yeah yeah keep keep us posted Nick I want to kind of put on this thread a little bit because this is something I feel like people talk about a lot right

[01:46:42] is this idea of Spielberg doing a horror movie because particularly when you look at something like jaws and and dress parts you might great examples and even that's beyond as bits of in the out of Jones yeah so there's lots of like horror elements in these films

[01:46:57] close encounters middle set pieces are exactly I could get to doctor them yeah scary yeah so he knows how to set those scenes up so well so it makes me wonder like what would a

[01:47:13] Spielberg heart like and that is that do you think that's something we might get one age like scratchy needs to it there's quite a lot of like a lot of common themes particularly when he comes to horror is he loves using either shooting something in daylight that

[01:47:32] scary or using light in a way where light coming in yeah isn't a comforting thing it's quite uh it's quite like a put case in point close encounters is using light as the evil

[01:47:45] force that's coming in and invading the home so I do think he's got something he doesn't play conventionally whenever like he does his scares and it always wrapped up around increased moments attention I was think like uh or like piling into paranoia

[01:48:03] uh think particularly water worlds that is quite it's probably his closest to a straight out horror movie I would say yeah yeah yeah there's stuff in that first yeah there's bits of that

[01:48:16] material in all the world yeah I think that in each where the guy that mob is trying to get into the car that they've got and just tears and open the woods you're at the neck it's you guys are talking about him due to horror movie

[01:48:33] here and she's on the outside of the door goes oh god yeah sorry those perfect time yeah I consider jobs to be a horror movie just outright like it's a horror movie like um and even like like you see elements of that too even like the opening

[01:48:59] of Jurassic Park feels like a universal monster saying like it feels like it feels like Frankenstein right like it feels like an angry mob like trying to contain this unavailable beast like

[01:49:09] it's like a pitchworks and torches mob but they have you know automatic time pull it do you just go hot they were it yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so the raiders the end of last crusade with

[01:49:21] the like rapid agent yeah yeah it's good all elements now you're right even eating starts kind of like a horror film and like me something we saw a lot on on our pod is like this again going back

[01:49:36] to this thing of of Spielberg just being this like Schmolzzy guy you've not watched enough Spielberg films if if that's what you're coming out of it hours but like he's never been afraid to go there with the darkness he kills again and not him personally but in jokers

[01:49:52] you took my jokie to fight sorry it's allegedly quick got to Spielberg going and I do it again yeah there's always been that that element in his films like he's not he's not worried about

[01:50:10] going to those places and he's come so close I mean we joke about the pod's guys thing but there's a there's a hell a lot of Spielberg in that cape fair he basically just like gave to

[01:50:20] Marty and was like now you do it instead uh he and and like the the thing that makes me almost convinced that we will get a Spielberg horror at some point in the future is Spielberg has

[01:50:33] pun intended I guess been darts and around the musical for a while um there's moments of 1941 that Phil like a musical he wanted it it was gonna be a musical I think in the beginning

[01:50:44] and then wasn't it was too far the yeah the hook uh in which indie starts with like a buzzer we don't have to do yeah and then eventually we get it in uh in westside story but it's

[01:51:00] yeah like it's yeah it just kind of like convinces me like okay he threatened to do a musical for so long and then he did it when the time was right so he keeps threatening to do a horror and I

[01:51:10] think we'll get it one day and I would love yeah he's got a horror and a western in an oracan oh yeah combine yeah come on brothers are working on their first horror movie so there's

[01:51:25] still time that's exciting yeah I'm real excited you're right you're right there's still time I just yeah I guess it's kind of a final wrap up question I'd love to know you what

[01:51:38] would you guys love to see from Spielberg we were talking about horror but is there anything else he'd like to see him have a go at well yeah it was half joked like the western yet I think is like

[01:51:47] it's had that in his lot like clearly and like that just look at the favourments as well for it's first movie was a western yeah I'm just a John for me exactly yeah yeah it does like he

[01:52:00] hasn't something that is very much in his will house so he's never really fully pursued and I love a good western so to have a smoke a question I'm not gonna I'm not gonna get that out of

[01:52:13] bed and I'm like there's there's elements of it in like any and the Indiana Jones movies right yeah particularly last crusade last crusade feels the closest I think to it totally a

[01:52:26] western out of all of them but yeah just like a full on western movie shot you know in Utah or whatever yeah make it happen absolutely yeah okay I'd agree with that so we got horror we got

[01:52:45] westerns I mean like you say you pull out a musical and a biopic and the last couple years and it doesn't look like any of us pretty saw that couple in so exactly it's like I you've got to trust

[01:52:54] the guys and instinct that at this juncture as well like it's like we touched upon I think like if he was to suddenly come out and say actually no I'm done there is a with perfect kind of

[01:53:08] the favourments would be a perfect cap if you know what else to do with this matter is the bullet movie because yeah it's a car chase picture right a bullet movie has to be a car chase picture

[01:53:20] and yeah that's what he started his career went exactly that the nice book enters don't want him to be done so you do you know what's on you on the work in the heaven or I know you're not big on westerns

[01:53:36] I'm not big on westerns all horror but would watch both of them I would take it yeah western horror yeah western horror exactly just right all into one fantastic fantastic well guys I think it's brought the two

[01:53:53] hour which is yeah this is been amazing be honest with you thank you have an us man no thank you guys for this and not to be too sapient sentimental but thank you just from a personal level

[01:54:06] thank you to each and every one of you for the support over the years because like I was just speaking from the heart it's meant a lot over the last couple years like you know it's something

[01:54:16] I love about doing this being part of podcasting is just the people meet along the way and this little group has been so supportive again I can't stress enough people if you don't

[01:54:26] aware like just what goes in behind the scenes and like our little group has been really good at championing one another over the years it's been really awesome to see and to watch everyone's success

[01:54:35] as well like everyone keep going and building their shows it's it's just really awesome to witness like every time I see something go up yes doing it and doing well it's brilliant it's keep

[01:54:45] it going so thank you and for anyone who doesn't know I'm gonna go around the room and just if you guys are chance to plug your shows people haven't heard it they should have been out

[01:54:53] for this episode yeah it should be aware of who you guys are because you've all been on the show at least once and yeah I've been plugging away your shows so Andy will get him we'll go around

[01:55:03] the room Andy Nick M. J. Sarah if you guys want to go around tell us where they can find you and your work absolutely yeah like I say again thank you Holly and like you say it is like

[01:55:12] it has been one of my favorite things putting a podcast together has just been putting it out there and also just seeing who kind of responds and what can actually do make and to like you say the

[01:55:22] support has been like undeniably a factor of this that I didn't particularly expect to happen and it's such a happy consequence of putting out something that you that you love to do

[01:55:37] and like love to chat about so like to the heart of your show is just getting into why we love the things that we love and still they're being a big big thing of that and again it very much

[01:55:49] there the focus of my podcast of co-host Josh Glenn rambling an ambling podcast you can find us on Twitter at rambling ambling and you can listen to us wherever you get your podcast

[01:56:03] right about now I'm just putting the final touch like time recording but the final touches to our men and black two episodes that'll be out soon. Nice starring Michael Jackson. Yes. The other amdress. Yeah. Last feeling of an amdress.

[01:56:24] We're getting into a good run as T-star would like a good split particularly a good spill bugger on at the minute I think I'll like next three are catching if you can

[01:56:33] the terminal and wall of the world's all in a row so but you know interesting stride and the early notice but yeah you can find us wherever you can you get your podcast you'll find us.

[01:56:45] Right about you need you Nick. Yeah Nick Flick's podcast on Twitter and Instagram and then and then you could find me on Spotify and Apple Podcasts and yeah I want to thank you guys

[01:56:57] you know Harley this was a blast and cool is how to get to do one altogether because we've all done each other shows and there's enough podcasts to go around in this world so it's nice to

[01:57:08] have like a group that can be like hey we champion each other because the markets wide open for people and it's not like we come from famous people who are like oh this was my you know

[01:57:19] I was Joe Rogan's assistant so now my podcast is really in views because I know people it's like no this is just a bunch of film people who like to talk about movies so definitely I can't wait to listen to this episode and all of them.

[01:57:33] I mean too. How much smash mouth content ended up in the final guy? Let's just say I think I know how this episode is gonna be. Oh we came up with that one. So you were gonna do the sad piano version of

[01:57:52] oh now I have to do it because if this podcast and our podcast of any you know documented anything right it's the fact that when YouTube in particular send me a musical challenge I have to respond

[01:58:09] to it. Sure. Yeah so do it for taking all other musical projects I have to do it. That's the comfort. Yeah yeah and yeah and Jane Sarah please tell us tell us more about your project.

[01:58:25] Yeah I'll let Sarah do the two we do I have a three podcast because I'm insane. And so yeah the other one I do with my friends Mike Missy and Corey and it is called

[01:58:39] real perspective our EL perspective and it's like a zzzzz. We'll see what it looks like in 2024 but for now it is a current release ish film and television podcast which there's a million of but

[01:58:54] I think we're revamping in 2024 we're we're on hiatus right now we should be back by March sometime although lovely we have an episode coming out about Godzilla minus one in the next probably two three weeks. Which reads one of the best movies in 2020 three.

[01:59:09] I'll also at mj Smith eight nine one on Twitter and Instagram. Nice. Oh actually two I have to plug to you. No that was fine we'll start with the first one I guess.

[01:59:27] You have to add in you know if me and MJ just continue making podcasts you'll just have to like you know and then this and I mean at the rate you guys are going you know

[01:59:37] could be another one in last year. So we're the most recent patrons episode. Cause I had a really good idea. Yeah you did I didn't think about it a lot Sarah.

[01:59:49] You need to stop because this was madness as taking us too far already and we'll continue to do so yeah we being MJ host two podcasts so the original the first one was like George for a minute

[02:00:05] where we went minute by minute through the greatest film I've made which is George and then now branching off into all kinds of things we did a whole spillback season covering the first

[02:00:16] 10-ish films of his career kind of before and after George we just did shark season our next season is monster movie season which we are so hyped for covering a lot of great films.

[02:00:30] I think all of you guys on this cooler coming on for an episode as well which we were you're always the first ones we reach out to to come on as guests. That would be great and our other

[02:00:42] one which very recently started is let's called Let's Party with Marty where we are going through every film directed by Martin Scorsese plus the films that he put on his companion films list on

[02:00:56] letterboxed so Marty joined letterbox and we answered the call and again sure we'll have you guys learn at some point on that yeah that's that's it for now but I mean stay tuned then

[02:01:14] I'm all who knows. We're ever we find fundamentals and these other guys you can you can find us there but yeah I will add my warm greetings to the whole of the world squad and just how

[02:01:30] I can't take I put it together but I don't take too much. I'm going to take too much. I'm going to do it there I take it. No it's been lovely and it's just like even just the you know yes we we

[02:01:46] guessed on each other's podcasts and promote behind the scenes and everything but there's also like a bunch of other stuff when we weren't able to edit episodes partly was editing some of our episodes we just help each other out and it gave me my first audacity course.

[02:02:03] That's true but yeah I think I can't remember who I was talking about like why discord is the best thing to for all this online my opinion. Yeah it's we we help each other out in a lot of ways

[02:02:18] and it's just really really lovely to have that community. There's the only gal here as well it's nice the these particular dudes on the internet. You're going to play that card chair. Very nice to me.

[02:02:31] I don't just think my opinion is terrible because I'm a woman so yeah it's you're going to be like you're a pain in his terrible because you're a bad opinion so it has not been a pain in your life. Do we get extra feminine places?

[02:02:43] Yes. You're a job guys we can skip Barbie. Well on that note thank you guys so much for coming on thank you for being a part of this wonderful crazy journey and I'll be putting in plugs on the on the show notes of this episode

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[02:03:33] inspired to do something yourself very deeply do it and do what we've done find people that are like minded get involved yeah especially the independent podcast community it's been one of them

[02:03:42] as welcoming communities I've ever experienced and I'm sure you guys feel the same way like when you start it's like anyone gonna care is gonna work I don't know and before you know it you will find

[02:03:53] people that will just pick you up and run with you so yeah yeah yeah on that note maybe being super sentimental. I'm so so so so I'm not gonna thank you guys very much thank you Harley

[02:04:13] and there we have it thank you so much Sarah MJ and the enic for coming onto the podcast and just really giving me one of the best experiences I've ever had doing this show

[02:04:25] ugh such a delight such a delight to put together as well I honestly thought this edit would be a bit much with four guests but really it was so easy and I could just listen to this for hours.

[02:04:36] In fact I've done a first on this episode and included some end credits for you guys to enjoy because basically you would have heard I had to disappear for a little bit to feed Jesse the podcast dog

[02:04:49] and whilst I was away these guys just kept talking and then I jumped back in and we had a little bit of an off-topic conversation that was just so much fun so I've included it at the end

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[02:05:54] the week after this and being next at night to discuss the recent planet of the apestryology which was just so much fun so there's just an example for you I was also on let's

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[02:08:53] do you have a favorite Spielberg movie why not reach out to us via the links to our social media pages in the show notes of the episode we would love to hear from you right that's enough from me

[02:09:04] I'll be back next week with the very first season of the podcast and to play a sound as was promised at the end of this episode because I cannot resist the musical challenge from Sarah and MJ here is

[02:09:17] my sad version of all star by Smashmouth seems like an appropriate way to end the Spielberg episode doesn't it take it away me now we've covered it quite the gambit on this podcast there's always going to be a strike diversion I just knew I don't know why

[02:11:42] just read he's a professional out and just play Smashmouth or then and minutes that we went on that am I okay with that but just like just the instrumental so it's just gonna be a work on that slow piano version commission sir children's choir

[02:12:18] that's got to be a version of that like that somewhere on the internet show and sure the Damian Rice version of uh that's gonna be my space movie one is instead

[02:12:32] now I feel like it's got to be for the my space movie it's got to be I'm not okay I promise like Michael Romance no we need like the worst service ever that like um what was the one supposed

[02:12:45] to be with the short movies that was very like and now not invite it was it was supposed to be like a swimming service yeah yeah which like it's the like a full of some in portrait and landscape really yeah

[02:13:01] I remember that because that was supposed to be like the idea was it will be like this is the commuter's streaming and then covid happened so no what's commuting not that I think many people were gonna go to quit any

[02:13:13] right now talking about having a $1,000 idea and then yeah it was time possible yep there was a good uh the women of the golden arm it was like a short like horror

[02:13:30] they did like a short horror apology on it and some of that's quite good like Sam Raimi directed one with Rachel Brosner hand yeah yeah there's a lot of money on it and then they sold everything

[02:13:42] to like Roku network it's ever Roku TV and I remember like a bunch of other shows came 50 states of fright um was um Foggy series where the idea was that each uh each short would be

[02:13:53] like in a different state um that's a fun idea like an 80s horror yeah I thought it was a small one state has a lot of taxis I feel like there's a need managed to do eight guys we green that you for 50 you only get a safe

[02:14:14] stop watching yeah and we really know about a quarter too we missed a lot of good states not too many states I don't know if you guys ever see the comedian Gary Goldman

[02:14:27] he is a great joke about the abbreviation how they came up with it where it's like I like his jokes the way he puts them together with the side tangents of his jokes but when he's just like

[02:14:38] okay the first state you know you know like arcotsawk whatever and then it's like how like eight states in a row all had would have had the same abbreviation like oh this is gonna take a while yeah

[02:14:49] yeah I have that's on his new special right uh it think it's an older one he did it on cone he did it on cone is your right the new special's pretty funny where he's just like uh

[02:15:01] my uncle used to get a stuff he had a great job he was a bird where so we always had random technology and our kitchen hidden our rooms but it was great yeah he's on sign fell like super hard

[02:15:19] which now he has a movie coming out sign fell yeah I don't think I think sign fell might be the most famous person to only have done basically like one thing his whole career and that was his show and then his only actual movie was the beam move

[02:15:40] is fun to time yeah like jazz how's it needed directed something else which isn't doesn't he have another directing no I think it's it I think this new pop tart one is directing but like think about how much money

[02:16:02] he has and all these so we're all claiming the famous is the show like I know he does stand up but like it's like like he built an entire thing off of that show I mean you guys same thing

[02:16:14] like Larry David except Larry David now had you know has had curve all these years which is rated our sign fell right but it's like man I mean he built like a whole legacy and all that money and

[02:16:24] it's like yeah his only actual movie so far to his name is the beam move yeah and is any video okay he also did like a comedy special but it was him doing a bunch of old jokes and it was like

[02:16:38] you didn't write anything new in the last 35 years like what were you doing he's like what's the deal with you like not can't start a joke he's doing rotary phone jokes people on to now

[02:16:52] also that pop tart movie was completed in 2022 and has just been sitting in the camp so it's got to be good jesus i'm not that mixed made it as well it's like I think it's time

[02:17:04] pop top movie yeah you know the pop tart movie with jesus on the frosted yeah yeah check this out we'd say are you not a pop tart star no I know what pop tart's up okay sounds like made up

[02:17:18] information we all got together before this recording like guys let's let's let's let's let's stare at jesus it's not gonna get better when I tell you that the movie stars sign felled in malice the McCarthy Jim Gaffigan Amy Schumer Hugh Grant James Marzden

[02:17:36] Jack McBrayer Thomas linen Bobby Moynihan Christian Slater Bill Burd Dan Levy and Fred Armisit no that's a fake maybe it's like it's the fake um it's the fake the fake crocodile dundee movie that they had

[02:17:54] which was genius in the pride that that whole fake and it's just an ad for Australia I'm like god that was so clever they're like all these Australian actors and a Danny McBride and you're like

[02:18:03] how is he cropping all dundee's son and you're like ah it was fake wait a second yep i wonder how it's gonna compare to the flaming hot cheetah's movie the Oscar nominated for the movie the Academy Award nominee flaming hot cheetah's movie

[02:18:27] oh Sarah you didn't know about the movie so what you've never seen before you've never seen before yeah yeah directed by you don't worry yep that's true

[02:18:36] not fake yeah i promise wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait we're talking about the cool ranch Dorito movie so a fun thing that happened a few years ago

[02:18:48] is this this guy just started saying this Mexican guy just started saying that he was uh he invented the flaming hot cheetah and he was a he was a janitor at the three-door lay company and

[02:19:00] he invented it so that so that Latin people could have a chip for them like tortilla chips don't exist anyway oh yeah by the way that is a lie uh he did nothing to do with it it was invented

[02:19:15] by a committee um that wanted to market a chip to Latin American people and uh free to lay never stopped him from doing this because it makes them look good because it looks like the champion

[02:19:27] somewhere in the whole movie about yeah well they made it in the end of the movie about this story um brilliant and the reason why is because it looks good for free to lay to allow a you know

[02:19:40] minority janitor to have such a big say in their company even though it is a lie very probably one and now that movie is nominated for best original song at the academy of organs

[02:19:53] oh oh Diane Warren is not co-sets yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah wow my way what sorry what's that what's that I don't know you know we can actually her name out of podcast what are you

[02:20:14] that is wild though yeah just has to write a song in it it's a jettish there's a lot of what film it's like John Williams over in your opinion and I guess I mean yes sir why don't you tell us how you feel about her

[02:20:30] um I I genuinely thought that that I because I've not heard of flaming hot I thought that that was a bit and you were all joking and I was not to that please yeah

[02:20:42] we'll come off of this and watch it on Disney TV see this course she wrote for the funnions movie it's good uh that's good okay I'm gonna get weird noise from somewhere if anyone's hearing that something

[02:21:00] someone's bouncing my way there was my fault earlier I was bouncing my leg oh okay that's fine that's fine that's fine that's not stress then you start again um that's okay it's usually me that's making some kind of stupid noise

[02:21:15] but let me with something that's making a lot of worry don't worry that's okay that's okay see yeah yeah yeah that's fine you do 50 or something like that now so yeah there you go there you go

[02:21:29] yeah apologies for being pump jubber egg someone is quite a right time time orientated when it comes to her food got to respect that that it is tally got it's not just I never write now I mean yeah she's oh my dad what time is it

[02:21:57] time for my cable get me the cable hold a bit so good so good