Let's Talk About... Big Foot Research with Harley Owens! Ep.32

[00:00:00] We're back to the podcast. That's glad to be here. I'm glad we were able to make this work and I look forward to talking big foot probably some dog many too if we have the time yeah definitely definitely

[00:00:32] And so yeah, I mean that you if you want to take a quick minute tell people about you know You've got some of your gotten Instagram accounts and you're gonna YouTube channel When people can find you? Yeah, yeah, my name's Harley Owens. I run the big foot

[00:00:45] Facebook group big foot reports and data. It's the ensemble I have Instagram it's the same name as well that's how Liam and then found me I also have a TikTok and a YouTube channel and that's it's all that are the same name

[00:01:01] I can give Liam the links and he can leave them in the show notes or our hair would need to do that But you know, I came a long way I've just been a researcher for seven the June seventh I'm like seven months

[00:01:16] You know, I used to be a skeptic and an unbelievable in these things until I had my first encounter 2020 and that it changed my worldview on everything

[00:01:25] I mean because I saw a creature that was supposed to exist and here I am now at three years after that encounter This that's ever been before years. I've been on wild goose chase this whole time but I've been very fortunate to have other encounters, but

[00:01:42] They're just they're just happens to fast man. It's unbelievable these things are unlike any other Pre-jour on the planet So that first thing so you you were fully skeptical before you had their first encounter then so you do not believe in

[00:01:57] And I just thought it was just a bunch of old no timers tales, you know because you always hurt My my great my great grandpa would always talk about how The giants were in the mountains these hairy giants everything

[00:02:11] Well, I mean the growing up there was always stories of the black panthers I went up here in the eastern United States and I've heard

[00:02:19] I believe in the black panthers before I did a big foot because big foot was something that was the last thing on my mind And let me tell you I was wrong. I was very wrong and I should have listened to my

[00:02:30] Realty tell us about what you first and color that you want them So As 20 years old I worked for my dad's neighbor who ran an auction company for saw meals he auctioned off the quit met everything and

[00:02:47] We were up in this place. I was up there for two weeks But me and another guy was up there a week prior to when I had my encounter So we get up there to this place and we start talking to the owner of this saw meal

[00:02:59] We were asking him what all he wanted to sail and everything that way was ready to go when we had everything cattle I was going to be in the sale So I start talking to the guy

[00:03:10] He told us to keep an eye out for the big buyer that was coming around and rubbed into through the dumpster I said he pretty good size of buyer. He's like yeah, he's good size the buyer

[00:03:20] He said the thirst for worse things and the mountains and he on and I'm just sitting here a lot Work the world he talked about I was like it's got to be the snakes or anything like that now jokingly was like the black Panthers

[00:03:31] But I mean I I was hoping I would probably see one. I mean I've been I'm in the sea of black Panther forever, but I've heard them So

[00:03:41] Later on through that week there nothing really happened we were cleaning the equipment stuff and getting it ready for the sale number and everything and Friday came around and we had the auction on Saturday and my boss came up to me

[00:03:53] He said you want to stay up here another week and the hell people loads of stuff. I was like yeah He's like well, I'm what's in these other guys down to Which is a wherever well, I think it was Mississippi or somewhere to get another auction ready

[00:04:04] And I said Saturday was auction day nothing happened. I we had the sale in Sunday came around And I was cooped up in hotel all day. I was like well, I'm not gonna sit in this hotel all day bored out of my mind

[00:04:17] I said at least go out here Get stuff ready for me to come home early because I was planning on coming home before Friday But that didn't happen so I went out there and I started organizing everything

[00:04:29] You're getting it all ready and then I got everything done that I needed to and So I started walking around the wood line I'm looking around wood line there. It's raining on me, so

[00:04:40] I'm just looking around I thought a couple of tracks which I had to go to a couple of photographs of these I didn't video these and I was looking at them. I was like somebody's walking around here barefoot

[00:04:50] I mean this is in the middle of the Appalachian mountains in south west for jidgen And I'm sitting here looking and I'm just like what With somebody's huge because I were a sauce 12 and I mean the tracks were got good two three

[00:05:04] I just bigger than my house. I guess that's a big foot and I joking in my mind. I joking in my mind I did was a big foot So Monday nothing happened Tuesday nothing happened Wednesday said hamburger in 23rd 2021 that was the day I actually saw his creature

[00:05:19] So I had a couple of guys and you come pick up their stuff Monday and then Tuesday I had one guy come in And the Wednesday that day

[00:05:27] I had one guy coming there. He was sitting at the gate waiting for me to come in and unlock the gate So he could go when he did his stuff So we had a skid steer

[00:05:36] Gribotis skid steer that I was using love pallets and we're just I'm just sitting there I loading him up and he takes off well I sat there and that skid steer all day. I barely had any phone service So I'm sitting here and I'm just like

[00:05:51] I'm gonna go grab me sandwiched and coat got him a cooler So I go over to the cooler in the back of the service truck And I opened the lid and I get my sandwich in my drink out and I hear a growl as you're in

[00:06:02] And it was so off I was like I've never heard a sound like yes before So I'm sitting here looking towards the woods. I don't see no

[00:06:11] I could go back to trying it my saying I want to get a drink of my drink again. I heard it again Now Where I was at was in this big valley and there were some bridges on both sides of it with cliff faces

[00:06:23] I heard it when I heard it that's a good time I looked at on my ridge on that cliff face And I think something walking along the cliffs And I was like well, that's that bird

[00:06:31] Because I was just seeing the black moving through the shadows. I was like well, that's the bear So I'm sitting here and I look down and I look back up and I see this pink thing

[00:06:41] People in and out the trees looking at me and I'm just slide oh my god that's a big but these things are real people aren't crazy And so I'm just sitting here like This is unbelievable And

[00:06:56] I was looking at it and it was looking at me and I just it was like a staring contest this thing was looking straight through me I felt like and And

[00:07:04] Only thing I knew us to do was to take a picture because if I was going to try a video this thing it was going to be gone So I snapped the photograph and the strangest thing happened I had a brand new phone at this time

[00:07:15] And I still have the phone to this day and it still messed up on I just kept it to say that I still have it And It was just that

[00:07:24] It was with the color my whole Cornell calls that and then just the whenever these things are around the technologies is just strange So I'm Still I'm just just just things still sitting here looking at me and after that my phone got zapped

[00:07:38] I think turn around them just went further up on the mountain and I could I couldn't believe it It shocked me And it it it just seems like yesterday is when it happened I mean

[00:07:48] I was put I went into the truck and I put the phone on charge and I was hoping and praying that the picture say There enough again so how close would you say you went to it? I Was probably

[00:08:02] 75 yards away from it. It was really is a pretty good little way as a way plus he was high up So I mean I really couldn't make out no facial feature or nothing

[00:08:11] All I think and I could make out was this black figure figure out looking at me Yeah, I mean it was very big It was like a four bay sheet of plywood Very very big creature Yeah

[00:08:24] It's funny there you say about your phone being there like well zapped as you say and I know you've been on Yeah, I'm obviously let's get freaking out saying you were a guest on there before as well. Obviously

[00:08:35] I was there that's what I've told me a few times and then admit Well, I was on these I was in sure recently and we we spoke about big foot and like we were talking about you know

[00:08:43] Is it some sort of like paranormal sort of thing to do with it when then like you say if you know If it's like Doing things like that's a phone and technology and stuff then maybe it is yeah absolutely I mean What you think I'm not doing?

[00:08:58] It's something to do like an all overworldly paranormal. Yeah, it's definitely Paranormal aspect of this thing I mean it it well how whales can people go out here looking for these things

[00:09:10] I mean they're very rarely found all and I mean not to mention when you're looking at tracks And I say for instance you come across some tracks and then they just stop I mean there's no such thing as a coincidence

[00:09:22] It's what you can't get there's no bodies of these things and these portals that people are seeing in the UFOs and all this stuff is all here Trying to connect it It means it's strange because I mean

[00:09:36] I mean you'll be obviously you'll know a lot more than people. I will follow big foot stories I've heard I've never heard of like any like some violence to once people or anything Well that just because just because we don't hear the stories doesn't mean there has it

[00:09:50] Vini I mean I'm sure some of these missing four one one cases here in America are from big foot Not all of them some of them. I think a majority of them are from the dog man

[00:10:00] I just think a lot of the ones that I've heard of they're like I can say very similar to yours where people have seen them Like you said it's literally just the case of the see them they say the tracks never thing

[00:10:09] But then like no harm comes to them or anything It's sort of just like a just like a long as it will see any children will be on our way Yeah exactly I mean I think I feel like the only time they'll really do that

[00:10:21] There's to let them know that people know that they're there. I mean if that thing what I made the noise is that it did I would have never saw I never would have never seen it. Yeah, yeah, if it got my attention it wouldn't mean to see it

[00:10:34] Obviously you've sent me the pictures and obviously the audio stuff that you've got so I mean I can shut them Obviously it will need to get on page I can shut some of the audio and then the episode is so not be called

[00:10:43] People have answered that so what about the second second then come with it you want then? Okay, so that After that first encounter I stopped everything to do with the outdoors I stopped hunting I stopped fishing I stopped everything and they had a huge impact on me because

[00:11:49] I had pictures of videos and the audio and I tried telling everybody that this is what I see And I still got ridicule and hate from a bunch of friends and family and they called me the crazy person

[00:12:02] And I still don't talk to a lot of those people still this day and so I stopped deer hunting I stopped fishing and Eventually this just could send me to no feels like you know I gotta get back to hunting and fishing so this past thanks given

[00:12:15] I went back deer hunting for the first time since the 2019 deer season in the fall So I overcame my fear I went back deer hunting I killed my first book since forever and I was like you know

[00:12:27] I've overcooked my fear of what I thought was a fear of the big foot at the time and I was like you know, I knew how to start looking for these things and I did it December 7. I started my field research And a week

[00:12:42] A week later is when I had my second encounter It was December 14, 2023 I go out some of my research area. This is an area that Scott Carpenter used to field research in and he was only in this area once

[00:12:57] He's a researcher from here in East Tennessee unfortunately. He's passed away highly recommend Scott Carpenter's work. I mean he he connected the dot some The big foot in parallel with connection and all that stuff. I mean there's a lot of people that will criticize him

[00:13:12] But I do things like he does I utilize a back trail camera to record behind me while I'm hiking So this area is it's food a lot of Words stuff. I mean to besides from big foot and everything like that so

[00:13:28] Me I take my wife with me this day She's still on edge about all this stuff but this day was woman that was like Yeah, this is the opener

[00:13:39] So we're going into my research area. We're hiking up the trail and I'm showing her all the signs and stuff that I've found Trying to just trying to get her educated on some of this stuff so we're walking around

[00:13:52] And we're not way back out and I hadn't noticed this on the way in So we're walking back out and she says look at that. I said look what she said that over there

[00:14:01] I said yeah, what about it? She said that looks like something out of a war movies Now these sticks were broken and sharp and they were looks like something like a barricade of some sort so

[00:14:12] I could sit sitting right here. I said I'm gonna walk over here and look So I walked over there and I was looking around just man or looking and I

[00:14:19] I find a bed where something was laying in the leaves and I stepped it off is about eight and a half feet long Look at about three and a half foot wide so I was like well that's that's a big foot

[00:14:30] I mean that that's not a black bear black wear something get that big So Alex said and I seen something start moving out of my corner in my eye

[00:14:38] And I said I think it was reddish brown and it was all because I'm too feet and I think it moving So I followed up my wife. I said stay there. I said I said I'm gonna see what this thing is I said there's something over here moving

[00:14:49] So I started pushing through the woods and there's a game trail that cuts across some left right A huge game trail I think I think the elk use it sometimes and all the time because I found some elk sign here

[00:15:01] And I'm just standing here in middle of this trail I just get this gut feeling that I need to look to my right So I just turned and I looked and I see this big foot

[00:15:09] He brought the eight and a half feet tall. He's reddish brown and he steps in behind this tree and I'm just like oh my gosh I mean, that's when was much much closer I mean he was probably 25 30 yards away from me

[00:15:20] I mean I could see a really good and He steps out from behind this tree And he crouches down and peeps his head out through a bush to look at and I can't see him real good Reddish brown He's got great skin. He's got black eyes

[00:15:35] Yeah, as I'm sitting here looking at this thing and it's looking at me I'm of all of a sudden to my left there was a loud pop in a snap And then right behind me there was one stump and in place

[00:15:46] So I was surrounded by three of them I didn't see the other two on the side of the one and that's when I realized that these things are a lot smarter than what people take them out to be Yeah, that's crazy

[00:15:59] Oh, the funny thing the funny thing about that I had my gun on my right hand side So when I walked in My gun was facing him and when he stepped out when I turned to look at him

[00:16:10] My gun was facing the way I came in and I had one of run-of-run I mean one of my left and one behind me I mean the gun was falling in the opposite direction away from the gun. They they know what guns are

[00:16:23] Yeah, I mean that's definitely crazy I mean, you said they're obviously having spoken to like family members and friends Obviously since you first encounter which is horrible and it should be about to deal with that

[00:16:36] So but just a shot of going back to your first encounter that we do we you saw like questioning Your sanity after that. They know are we you like just you convinced straight away

[00:16:45] Oh, no, I was convinced straight away. I mean when I photographed that I've got this thing It's unbelievable man. It's it's it's I mean I never imagined I have a photograph like that of the big foot

[00:16:56] Yeah, it's insane. I've had people tell me at the dog man or yaddy, adiara whatever I mean it's I know what it is I think I didn't have no ears as well as like a giant human

[00:17:08] You see in there obviously second to count your you were a lot closer like obviously almost face to face with it Like can you can you describe what the fit what the face was like? I mean is it is it the stereotypical description

[00:17:20] This one was very very human like I mean it like the one he was looking at me is almost like he was crunching his face and this is like those skin was wrinkle on above his eyes

[00:17:31] And it's just a very very broad mouth and just very very thick looking chin it was almost Trying to figure out how to describe the chin, but it's just very very thick and must I mean pure muscle man And these things they're unbelievable

[00:17:48] But they are the weirdest thing I mean the smell was like a so-free dead smell I mean that's the smell as I'm forget before Yeah, it's just crazy because I mean obviously we don't get a lot of stuff like this here Obviously in the UK obviously

[00:18:09] Obviously obviously we hear all the stereotypical stories and descriptions and everything Yeah, so I'm just I'm like I'm just trying to work out before you all say in sounds obviously Like obviously there's stereotypical stuff that we hear Which it does to a degree obviously you said

[00:18:25] But it's got a lot more human look to it's Relationship like the orangutan families like you know it's like a seven foot orangutan thing kind of like jag and a piff or else I'm a jagan epithicus That's the one here

[00:18:36] I was used to say to myself that obviously that was what big foot wasn't We'll see in that I mean that's my that was my first initial thought after three and the my first one My first initial thought after seeing my first one was jagan epithicus And then

[00:18:53] After I've had these other encounters, I'm just like they're not just a natural creature So it's not lost for words for bits of me Fair. I mean that's absolutely crazy I'm trying to picture like the face in my head Is that when you describe it well?

[00:19:10] I'm just like it's saying when you said about obviously like frail lines and stuff and it gravest I can almost say it in my head Yeah, he very it's very bulky looking like you just Us little lines were very muscular and everything and it was just

[00:19:26] It was very cute is like a literally looked like a giant human That's the only way that I could really describe it Hmm So obviously you said that they like a red brownish hair like you know

[00:19:38] Is it other fully covered in hair or yeah, his hair was like a reddish reddish brown He's greatest greatest skin tone. He had black eyes Yeah, so to say they're like obviously The red red and brown color of hair like you know the complete the covered in hair

[00:19:54] Or is it something like you know that like it's ever yeah, it was typically there was a completely covered in hair other than the face

[00:20:00] I mean he had like he had like a beard almost but I mean it just hitting the head like the hair around the mouth But I mean it was really like looking at a giant hair He

[00:20:11] I knew that and that's when they were more than just to eight. Yes, is it father and count was you about a free I've had three three big foot count once 10 times about the third one

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[00:21:14] Yeah, so January 7th of this year My good friends Robert Ephaler and George Lens were came up from North Carolina and We get out there and I'm showing them all the signs and everything and

[00:21:31] We're walking up this trail and we're looking around. We find dog man tracks. I mean that there was no denying that Because there were just single dog

[00:21:40] Huge dog tracks right after the other and how a five foot stride in between each track and we were finding fresh fresh Signs like these trees were twisted and broken. They were very fresh. I mean they were still green So the trees were still alive and

[00:21:54] We're walking around looking and we're coming back and I know George on a shoulder I said George I said me can drop down this holler and we'll work all the way around and we'll come back on the main trail over here

[00:22:05] I say we got walkies will stay in radio contact we've Robert in his life So man George dropped down into this holler Robert his wife are staying on this main trail And

[00:22:16] We're walking around down in this holler and we're state there's a bit there's a little valley and we're up on one side of this Heal and then right across this little valley is another heal and we're walking across through here

[00:22:27] And I see something moving over on that other heal And I wasn't going to say anything until I was 100% for sure, and I seen it start moving more And it was black and I was like George there. He said holy that to shout

[00:22:38] I said no George it's a big for I said he just walked in behind that tree I said shadows don't move like that That's the standard right here. I said I'm going walk towards it I didn't walk 10 15 feet and I stepped on this branch

[00:22:49] It's now like a shotgun going off And It's big foot We named him now south of because when it was raining His hair was sticking up on top of this head

[00:22:59] This big foot reaches up and he grabbed hold of the tree to brace himself to look for me because he couldn't see And all I heard George say pardon my friends was oh shit And

[00:23:11] It's all happened so fast next thing I know George caught up with me and he was going past me the big foot was done gone I mean it just it was fast and we get up there to worry the tree was that he was at because

[00:23:24] When George took off his arm run and he turned a big foot turn and went straight up behind from where he was at We get up to the tree where he was at

[00:23:32] We were figuring he's about eight and a half non feet tall because where the branch she was where his head was at was a good Two foot above where I can reach. I'm six six. I mean I could barely I could barely reach where his head was and

[00:23:45] We get to work in right there where he was standing at and right there in a moss There was three Perfect toes but the pinky and the big toe that were there were barely there, but I mean that he just worry took off

[00:23:59] He just kind of pushed off and was gone. He went he's shot straight back up in there where he was at so we decided to go in there after

[00:24:06] And we get that pushing in through there. I'll tell you what that brush did not look as thick as what it was But when we got into that stuff

[00:24:14] Man, we were pushing the brush out of our way it was it was crazy. You didn't look that thing and next thing I know radio Rob's radio and over to see say what what George y'all started

[00:24:25] I said it's a big foot and I said he's coming your ways. I think he is He said well something just came running through the woods like a bulldozer I was like well that's him. I said we just started

[00:24:35] He said well whatever it is he said it just stopped he said I think it's looking at me I don't Robert never seen it, but it was it was crazy man. I'm George he had never seen a big foot until that day

[00:24:47] He's author and cryptos of all I just and he he had never seen a big foot until that day I did it was it was crazy man. I couldn't believe I made his first encounter happen Yeah, well again no only words are quite as crazy

[00:25:00] So he said you said now obviously it is followed through like like some bushes and that and like obviously What did area stop the place like so Was it where it's called is it not like you know moved We've been so big is it not moved all these

[00:25:16] Or she's never gonna wear was just seem to like ask through them It just seems like they just cut right through and they don't even bother on that mean it's Yeah blew my mind and I mean

[00:25:28] It just had a substance so big just go through there and just Not bright any branches or anything it brings more questions than answers Definitely I mean now I realize they're the masters of their environment. It's best deal

[00:25:43] Yeah, I mean especially like you say if that size like you say all over eight feet so Maybe that the good they're gonna weigh a fair amount as well so you think they'd be like you know You could be a snap to let's stop branching out to

[00:25:55] Yeah, you would think they would break this branches as big as they are I mean They're huge, man. It's it's unbelievable has something that big can move So quietly I mean a good size the black bear. I mean you're gonna hear it moving through the woods

[00:26:12] But they put people whatever year they are You'll have you'll have the feeling that they're watching you before you hear yeah I mean it's supposed to get in that I mean that just that's the argument of it being like you know of the paranormal of a

[00:26:26] Well's the shot of five then Yeah, yeah absolutely I mean I lean more towards the paranormal side and then the other world beside And I I'll explain a little bit of that right quick So In my research and all this stuff and I've looked into everything and

[00:26:47] We're my faith is and everything and I I looked into the scripture trying to find the answers for this And I got to look and I had three reasons out but outcomes what they could have be Either the sentence of you so Because you saw as descendants were

[00:27:06] Radish brown giant and I was like well that could be but not all of them are radish brown I mean some of them could be yes and then I looked into cane Well cane

[00:27:19] Was cursed to be a restless wanderer of the earth and I was like okay, well that can explain some of the big foot stuff I was like but that's still don't explain quite everything while there's tracks and then there's nothing

[00:27:31] Or the pool holes and the UFOs and all this stuff so then I got to the nephalum I got to look into the nephalum the nephalum were Race of giants that were created by the fallen angels and human women

[00:27:47] So I got to look into that more and more and I was like well that that kid actually makes sense Now, I'm not saying that the big foot are pure or nephalum I think that there are the send it's of the nephalum over time now Along with that

[00:28:02] So if you go and look into the saskwatch genome project there's a lot a lot of debate about that But I think it's legit and Because Scott Carpenter samples from right here in the grace of monkey mountains as part

[00:28:15] The mitochondrial DNA of a big foot now this this only comes from the mother the mitochondrial DNA is a human mother from the middle east The nuclear DNA is nothing completely unknown besides Now if you ask me That sounds like some fallen angels

[00:28:36] Because the mitochondrial DNA shows that it's a human mother from the middle east There's no such thing as the coincident Yeah, that's a good point There's another thing that the fallen angels didn't just Procreate with human women they did it with animals as well

[00:29:01] So I believe that involves into the dog man category So Human hybrids are a thing they're out here they're real and they're supernatural I think most of the man-like groups is cryptid out there like these goat I have a scene of goat man or nothing like that

[00:29:19] But I believe those all fall into this same category It's pretty wild stuff when you think about it Yeah, yeah, I can sound from I'm probably like blown away to be honest with you

[00:29:31] Well, there's a lot of thing the BFRO which is the big foot field researchers organization They don't talk about The supernatural side of bigfoot they have an agenda They want everybody to think that they're a ape and that's what they are there's nothing more to them

[00:29:48] They want it to be that they're unknown primate And BFRO does not document UFO cases with bigfoot Yeah, so Pretty wild stuff man. I mean, I'm just shooting you the truth in that

[00:30:05] I'm sticking with what I believe these things are and I believe that they're the sendits of the meffel Yeah I'm just trying to I'm just trying to think of a reason my like I said me

[00:30:15] Obviously when you fall in a truck and stuff and then it's just not seem to end It's not the thing, you know as if they just disappear. Yep, so it's all things like out You know that they have a mischievous side

[00:30:27] Oh, you know the leave in and about the tracks on purpose That's not mean they definitely do I mean sometimes you they're very very clever I mean sometimes they'll like Scott carpenter he would go out look for his things

[00:30:40] Sometimes he would just find one track and he believed that if they left one track It's letting the other Sasquatch know that they were heading in that direction And I mean they're very very

[00:30:53] They're far more advanced than what we are and there are a lot superior. They're superior to us I I I firmly believe that So before we get into the dog monster so like so you know your research into this and so what what what's that

[00:31:09] And what's you know how do you go about it? So I don't have nothing to gain out of this. I just want Everybody to be aware that these things are out here and they are real

[00:31:21] I don't want anybody you're going out there in the wilderness. I think like an idiot And possibly getting themselves killed Back and stupid around these things I just I just want to be able to raise awareness because

[00:31:36] If I can save somebody's life, I've I'd say win for me. I know these things are real Other people that have seen these things are real and But people have to understand there is more to them than just just a natural creature

[00:31:51] These things have the ability to cloak like the predators and the predator movie They and then infre sound which is above or below our hearing and it'll make you really really sick They'll actually in April I got hit by and I had a headache for a week straight

[00:32:10] These things there are a lot more they can be aggressive But I just I just want people to know that these things are real. That is my end game I want people to know that they are out there and just to be safe while they're out there

[00:32:28] Do you have like an end goal with it then you know? What's like the ideal scenario for you? I just want I want to be able to leave something behind For my children to pass on to their children and leave a leg at sleep behind so to speak

[00:32:46] Well look at this daddy Dad was out here looking for these things and he's got him on camera and pictures and everything I mean that's that's my whole in I just I just want to leave something behind for my kids let them be like well dad

[00:33:00] Dad done this and he so when these things are real You're in as well like you know do you want it to be like you know like facts like you know There's no argument as if it is just

[00:33:11] Well any like any of a creature that is obviously on the planet is that what your whole face or you just If you if you convince a few people you're happy Oh yeah if I can convince people and keep them safe that's that's my whole end game

[00:33:26] Because I don't want to see anybody mess up a missing 411 or just anything like that man I mean could you imagine going out there and Being a just going missing or that's what they would initially label it as you go on missing and they would never find you

[00:33:45] You know and we we we know what's behind these people going missing it is a big foot the dog man or these portals Opened up and these people go right through on I mean it's

[00:33:56] Pretty crazy stuff man. I mean that's that's when I'm like I tell my wife the other day I was like if I go missing I was like it it's one of these things It's done it I was like it's it's not a bear or anything like that

[00:34:07] It's more of these creatures Hmm What what these Paul's that you had mentioned that so I believe that the big foot And did don't man and all that stuff they use these portals to get around so speak

[00:34:23] Suffer and since say if a tent there's a portal pop up here in the great smoking mountains a big foot could walk through it And end up on the west coast or something along those lines just anywhere and I believe it all ties into all the electromagnetic fields

[00:34:38] So all the stuff if there's a spike in electromagnetic field I think that's what can cause these portals to pop up Yeah, so you just think that like you know they randomly happen, you know, they don't have any control over them

[00:34:54] But they very well make it and have their control over all my mean I'm not expert in this I'm just a amateur and I'm just I think that it can just happen and this happened with the way there earth is just as massive amount of energy

[00:35:09] Just spikes and it'll happen but who's the same these things don't open them? I mean maybe they could just say something in our mind that portal just pops up and they just go I mean it's not telling man. I mean we don't we really don't honestly know

[00:35:24] All I know is that these things aren't just some eight Yeah, oh, yeah, it really really makes you Open your eyes and think

[00:35:34] Do you think that they're just like based to like one country or like you know could it go through one like saying the US there and end up in not watching it?

[00:35:41] That I mean they could go in one of these things and end up some more completely different across the world I mean it all ties into these electromagnetic fields and all that stuff. I mean if it spikes to me

[00:35:52] It's it's a they portal pop up where they can do it with their mind or however they do it. I mean I don't know Hey, I actually

[00:36:01] I will send you a video and it'll blow your mind. I'll I'll have the send you the link to it so you can watch it It's actually from Scott Carpenter the researcher that I do a lot of my stuff after Unfortunately he's passed away

[00:36:14] So he's got a video and he's recording behind him and this is what I do He's got a video he's walking down the trail and This it looks like a water splot it first on his camera

[00:36:25] But it's not a water splot. It looks just it's real fuzzy looking it's a perfect circle It's perfect circle and as he's walking this white Big foot comes out of it

[00:36:38] Now it mind you it's a little shaky because where he's walking in his cameras mounted on his shoulder But you can see this circle and it's just a perfect circle and it's why entity coming out of it And it's a big foot

[00:36:53] That's yeah, you're definitely going to have to send me that I didn't say that And that's another thing I mean the government doesn't like this stuff being talked about I mean I'll tell you right now

[00:37:03] I'll talk about it because people need to know people need to be aware and I mean it's it's crazy man When you start talking about the nephalon and all this stuff they really frown upon it

[00:37:16] Yeah, and that makes you that makes you aware of what the truth really is Yeah, I think that that's that's always the case if Does this matter what country you're in if you if you go from and does someone yeah

[00:37:29] Talking about some of it then you know there's something in it Now it's just saying is the coincidence Yeah exactly They don't want to look into some of them there's a reason they don't when you're looking into it exactly right and I'm at my tick talk Is

[00:37:45] Monitored like I I Post amazing pictures and videos on my tick talk and I only have a thousand Thousands of subscribers and I did a live on there the other night and it's that my life was restricted For trading and I'm like what am I trading?

[00:38:02] It's crazy man Yeah, I don't want to let you say as much as things are coincidences. No, it's not no Yeah I mean if you got anything else for under big foot stuff I'd want to jump into the dog one I got it for a big foot

[00:38:19] I have look forward to talking about dog man a little bit They've really picked my interest specifically Oh, so I don't like running into them. I only ran in the one and I saw it That happened January 29th of this year

[00:38:36] So before we get into the dog monster, I'm just gonna play in one last Audio file that Harley sent me all evidence for the big foot so I've listened to this very Interesting right then let's get into this dog one encounter

[00:39:14] So I think I'm gonna go to my normal area. Well, I thought I ended up deciding not to go But this area I go to further up the mountain for more of enagle

[00:39:25] So I get to the first little spot that I'm taking out and I found this huge Astric made out of broken trees and I'm like well there ain't no hikers going to do that

[00:39:34] I mean these trees were literally snapped off and they were laid on a ground like a perfect Astric Well, that's that's the big foot right there. I was like there's no hikers going to do that I mean the trees were this big around and

[00:39:47] Sometimes it never looking around and I'm like this spot may be all right to start looking into So I start Loosen around a little bit more and I find these rock stacks

[00:39:58] There's two stacks of rocks about 20 feet within each other and I will stack one on top of the other and they're huge rock I couldn't pick on but so I'm like okay this spot may be all right so I'm just gonna head further up the mountain

[00:40:11] So I go back to the truck. I had further up the road and it goes further up the mountain and I start locking up this mountain trail that leads to a waterfall So I'm weaving around this trail and I'm going I go across two bridges

[00:40:27] And across another wooden bridge and I go up and I come down across the slow creek with a half Made little covert bridge and I'm coming up this hill and the fort the trail for it's the left and right I was gonna go right And

[00:40:44] I realized I couldn't go that way because the trail was too growed up because park services didn't maintain it well So I go left and go towards this waterfall I'm walking along up through there and I find a game trail it literally just runs right across the trail

[00:40:57] I was like okay, so I'll just go up this game trail I went to the game trail and I'm looking around and I find these twist breaks from the big foot

[00:41:07] And one of them was about eight and a half foot tall. I mean it was twisted and broken and facing up the mountain But this other one I was thinking as about 12 13 feet off the ground It was twisted and broken facing down the mountain

[00:41:19] Now I was just sitting here looking at them. I was like don't you know why that's the wind because if it was wind Though would have been more than just those two trees that were broken or would have been more

[00:41:30] So I'm sitting here looking and I'm like man if I'm going to run in anything it's gonna be another big foot I was like oh this is busy. I'm going to be yeah, I'm going to turn another big foot I mean it's these breaks for fresh

[00:41:40] So I go back to the main trail and I'm hiking up When I come there I really sharp curve in the trail and I'm looking up and I'm looking down check

[00:41:48] Am I following starting to snow on me? I packed light. I just had on a hoodie and jeans and my muck boots and I look at my phone. I had 30% knowledge

[00:41:57] Now look back down my phone say 10% if it was just dead and I was like oh my gosh This is days off of from 2020 all over again. I was like I'm going to do a big it's gonna happen because I mean that's what happened when my first

[00:42:11] You can't I was like it's gonna be another big foot So I'm like I got to say something make it snowing a little bit more When I was like I'm just gonna leave I said I'm starting to get cold

[00:42:20] I just had my hoodie on and my jeans and my muck boots so I turn around. I started walking and All of a sudden I come back around this little curve and I'm going down the hill and I hear something behind me

[00:42:34] Timmy right moving and I'm just like this is great the more turn around and I'm gonna look at it And it's gonna be there I stopped dead in my tracks and I turned and I looked and I sing you this huge

[00:42:47] Dark brown came on laying there on a ground watching me big yellow BDIs and I was just like oh shit I knew instantly what it was when I seen it because we Really don't have wolves here in East Tennessee Over more towards North Carolina side there's red wolves

[00:43:08] But this thing was dark brown had his huge yellow eyes this thing pushes itself off the ground with its arms And it takes three steps in it's behind the tree and it's got its arm Prop up and it's growl in at me This thing

[00:43:22] Dark it was dark brown had a huge yellow eyes the top of the tent in between its ears was flat and it had huge like German shepherd ears Had a main running down the back of its neck

[00:43:35] The upper half of this thing body was very thick and buff had a raccoon like hands The bottom half was thinner and it had four places in the legs like a human

[00:43:45] It did not have backwards space in the legs like most reports of the dog man have and that was that was This is life just collude to me because it was very human life and it had a huge

[00:43:58] Almost like a fox's tail was very poofy looking and I was I was scared When I was looking into this things eyes it was impious there was nothing behind that was I was evil My life was flashing before my eyes

[00:44:11] I was going to be a misinformed one number and my kids were going to grow it without me my wife was going to move on I mean everything negative was happening man I was looking at this thing and it was growl and start on at me

[00:44:22] And all the only thing like when it was when it was breathing like it's it was Did an awesome for flaring and sneaking into the note the snouts and my when it was breathing the spirit was coming out

[00:44:35] And I was just like I would crap this this thing's gonna kill Only thing I knew what to do with run and I took off running and this thing was chasing

[00:44:44] And as I'm running along this thing still keep in pace from the I mean this this thing was moving I mean I was moving to I I was going as fast as I could and I go down the hill and I come up here and it's still

[00:44:57] Brushed through the brush chasing and I go down and I crossed the the first wooden bridge and I crossed the second bridge and I'm pretty sure that's one stop chasing me

[00:45:06] But I was another percent for sure all I know is that I was moving and I wasn't worried about if this thing was still chasing me or not My worry was about getting back to the truck

[00:45:16] So later on that week my friend my now friend read he came down He was a part of the North American dogman project for Virginia. He came down and we got measurements on how big this thing was

[00:45:29] Not including the ears. It was eight feet tall so it with the ears It was very bit eight and a half feet tall The head it was about 17 inches Across so really that was pretty good size

[00:45:43] It was almost four feet across at the shoulders and from where it was laying to the tree Was 28 feet and it took that in three steps Jesus Christ But the funny thing was I figured out why my phone was tripping out Rick had a compass and

[00:46:07] The compass was spinning in circles So Now I'll tell you what I when I The difference when you look into a big foot size in the dogman's you're looking to a big foot size There's a

[00:46:23] So so to speak they're almost like what we're looking into another humans eyes But when you look into one of these dogman That is pure evil if you're it's pure fear and that They're going back to the big foot

[00:46:40] I think some of the big foot have the watcher status so to speak They're trying the gain redemption because they know they're on a bomb a nation under God's eyes

[00:46:50] Because we're perfect in God's image because God made us the way that he had intended this to but for the fallen angels Rebellion against God and they made the Nephilim You know, that's what the flood was for was to kill all these things out and

[00:47:07] They're still here to this day Now the dog the dog man They're they're pure evil. They're demonic and I think some of the big foot are too just not a whole lot of Now with I think's gonna happen

[00:47:24] You know God said he wasn't gonna flood the earth again The second time would be in fire But before this fire the beast and beasts of the forest will come out and I think that's the big foot in the dog

[00:47:40] Well to go back to the stat you started there so when you Obviously when you fall and start it obviously acting open dying on your again And you're thinking all right it was a big fall around you started to panic then or you thought they've like you know

[00:47:52] Are ease with them. Oh, I'm at I'm an ease with the big foot. I'm I'm yeah. They don't bother me. I mean no Delts toy with me though like toss or rock every now and then or the whistle or they'll do this

[00:48:05] What they call samurai chatter talking to other it'll be like a run over the robot I've got a really fast pace language that they use But I've come to set the terms with the big foot. I've known I know they're not gonna hurt me unless

[00:48:20] I get too close into their territory or something that's They don't want me in like a nast or something But the dog man was the last thing I always expected to run into because I really I really did have a hard time

[00:48:35] Except in the dog man, but let me tell you when I had that encounter it opened my eyes real quick Just like the big foot did and I first did put encounter open my eyes and that dog man encounter it opened my eyes real quick too

[00:48:49] And these might be a hard question to answer So because obviously first couple of experiences with the boat with a big foot, you know the work was like said there wasn't It was not violence towards you or anything. You know there was no threat

[00:49:03] If you'd experienced the dog man first, how do you think would you would react then if you saw the big foot Second you know what I mean? I wasn't be doing this if I had seen a dog man first. I wasn't be doing this

[00:49:18] I'm thankful that I seen a big foot first and I'm thankful to do what I do because I've made some amazing friends Well, do a nests in the short amount of time that I've had I mean I've been on just about every big foot podcast there is and

[00:49:32] I'm very thankful to have the friends that I've made and I'm actually going to be hosting my first conference this September And I've I'm dedicated man and I can't thank people enough for

[00:49:44] Support me and my my social media accounts and everything else and I'm just I'm amateur but I kind of know what I'm doing but I mean being a hunter and all that but these things they're They're unpredictable

[00:50:01] I mean you see or knowledge you there. I mean for the free encounters with that I think I think by the majority of the people I make you pretty much an expert as well There's no experts in this and I'll tell you why

[00:50:15] If people were experts in this type of stuff There would be big foot in zoos if people were experts in this there'd be dog man in zoos, but there'd be there would be Trying to figure out where this there would be This closer about this stuff by now

[00:50:34] Like the UFO stuff all the UFO stuff's coming out and actually recently Tucker Carlson a reporter from over here in the US He got some files from somebody that said that UFOs are demonic and they come from the ocean and I'm like huh

[00:50:49] Okay, all right, okay, so like all all this stuff is intertwined and connected There's like I was saying earlier there's no such thing as a coincidence in this field Now people don't want to accept the supernatural side of these things because they're

[00:51:08] Honestly, I think that they're terrified of that Yeah, well yeah, I mean I mean I'll to be fat. I will make sense and to go back to the dog My no so obviously you've explained what you believe obviously the big foot

[00:51:22] So what what do you think the dog money is do you think that's some Like you know you said you said that demonic I think they fall into the the nephalon as well because like I was saying early Like then it's a fun angels didn't just

[00:51:35] Procreate with human they procreated with the animals as well and there was a lot of gene Unipulation going on and biblical times and I mean this stuff still around of this day. I mean These things They'll do anything to keep going. I mean they

[00:51:54] I think there's some of these people women they go missing. I mean I think that it's Until what happens. I mean I think that just keeps the the blood lines going. I mean

[00:52:03] It's it's crazy to think about but I mean I think that the big foot they have their own family groups And I think that they can do it that way, but I mean if there's a row big foot they get kicked out of the clan I mean

[00:52:15] That's it's untelum man. I mean it's it's pretty wild stuff when you start to think about it because I mean they're human hybrid And they're also starting to dogman project with the gene for a genome and for more I've heard so far

[00:52:31] It's the same thing like a big foot The mitochondrial DNA is a human mother that the Nuclear DNA something completely unknown Yeah So obviously obviously you said that obviously you have a you know you run away from it obviously Like you would I would recommend running

[00:52:52] Because how do you think you were capable of running away from it though? You know what I mean like I would I don't imagine these things will be able to move

[00:53:00] Just as fast as you saying the big foot's caught oh they're faster. Yeah, just a little bit of it all I think it was twin with me Yet some of it was twin when the yes because I found out I looked on the map

[00:53:13] For more I had this encounter and there are two cemeteries and right smack dab of the middle in between them two cemeteries is where I had this encounter And this thing chasing me out of there. I think the dog man hang around around cemeteries why I don't know

[00:53:27] I think that's more towards the paranormal side of them they hang around Graved yards because there's energy there But it's Pretty wild man, but also think that we're appraised before I go in there

[00:53:44] It almost gives me like a circle of protection from the things because they know who got on Jesus I mean that's just the honest truth I mean some of these UFO encounters the people being abducted you know they'll they'll Sting charge hands or something like that or

[00:54:02] Rebuke them in the name of Jesus and then it stops I mean the same principles for big foot and dog man, you know they they know who God and Jesus are and I'll tell you I heard a story from somewhere in Canada

[00:54:15] There was a preacher in a native American man walking through the woods they got blood charged about three big foot They're preacher rebuked them in the name of Jesus and there was a big flash and they were gone Pretty wild stuff man. It's pretty wild Yeah, that's that's

[00:54:38] That's almost a bit bizarre to me because I mean I mean I mean I'm about I'm a religious You know I don't follow any sort of religion or anything yeah But I mean but I can understand that though I think it's almost as if it's like

[00:54:55] I don't know to put it about something offensive Like almost as in like you know like some sort of like I usually holy water on a vampire or something or I mean Yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying yeah, yeah, yeah, I know what you're saying yeah

[00:55:12] It's pretty wild stuff man I mean it's supposed to be one of the way to them being animals they're gonna have like you know their own territory as well Yep, and once one got to a certain I think I think that the big foot here used the dog

[00:55:29] So what I think is that the big foot Have a hunting blind so were they break the trees and all this stuff and they'll lay him white And the dog man will flush the trees at a big but and then

[00:55:45] Get the kill and the dog the big foot get The first hit and the dog man gets with scraps Well, so so you're gonna like the dog mind gets like the scraps of what's left over

[00:55:58] Now there's a big debate on like big foot and dog man fighting and I think they used to and I think that Now the way with things are going I think that they've come this time is like why would two apex predators

[00:56:12] fight for territory and whatnot when they could just work together Yeah, and it and I mean it sounds like it's a little far-fetched but not really I mean you have symbiotic relationships in nature even so I'm sure it happens with even cryptid world as well Yeah, definitely definitely

[00:56:32] I mean like well, that's what I was thinking now. I mean like the way you describe them there's something you know similar in size If you take a pack a dog man they normally run and I would take a pack

[00:56:46] So I think you take a pack of dog man against one big foot I think the dog man will come out on top honestly because they're so fast and Clever and agile. I mean there but the big foot their brute strength and they're just as fast

[00:56:59] But I mean it's a hell of a fight. I'm sure Yeah, there's a seed from a movie that's on my yeah, oh That's how you I'll tell you what funny thing you know all these depictions of the wearables and stuff and movies

[00:57:15] That's spot on of a dog man I mean it's it's crazy and in like you have the predators From the predator movies where they can cloak the big foot can do that so can dog man

[00:57:28] There's no such thing as a coincidence and you look into this stuff. I mean it there's truth in the science fiction I'm sorry I'm sorry when a dog mom with wear is like you know to what

[00:57:43] What you believe it is you know like is it shot of like a well-fed time It is a man in the trance. Yeah, I don't I think the dog man or physically Bound to that form like there's no transformation Yeah

[00:57:56] Yeah, I mean I I don't have to go without I think in me as much as some people will say that it's all crazy anyway I think like transformation stuff. Yeah, it is a little far it is a little far fast

[00:58:08] But now there's nothing that's physically that form all the time Yeah, that makes more sense instead of the human transformation I actually I think that the wearables stories come from dog man Yeah, probably yeah

[00:58:24] Somebody say no man like wolf and oh, well, let's manage turned into a wolf and then that's where the wearables got started Yeah It's definitely possible then I can say I mean if it's not like obviously you described it is almost having hands

[00:58:41] He said that what you said right I got him hands as soon as I'm out. Yes very very All minutes looking hands There literally looks like giant raccoon hands like there's a raccoon in my backyard every night

[00:58:52] And I was like oh my gosh it looks like the dog man's hands that I see Yeah, so I mean that I would definitely confuse people Yeah exactly I will talk about another little incident that I had this was April 28

[00:59:10] My step-goaters dad and I just I were gonna go turkey hunt and We're trying to get on some birds we get out there about 435 a clock a little bit for doll

[00:59:21] And we get to walk on up a trail a little bit and he hits the alcohol and we had a One turkey go a little far off so we walk a little bit farther up through the woods there and

[00:59:33] We hit it again and another turkey go a little bit on further up so we Start trying to go find these turkeys and We're walking along through here looking what kind of finding them then these big open fields

[00:59:47] And we just we decided to give up because they shut up after the sun came up So we go into the woods Because we're the trailer on that way we didn't have to walk all the way around

[01:00:00] We decided to just cut up through the woods and jump back on this trail So we're going up this own creek bay in and we'll I just have to seal that would be a follow something something start following us whenever we got really

[01:00:13] And we could hear it while I could hear it walking just a lot of people with behind this and I'm walking along and I was a mosaic and I said he heard it and

[01:00:25] Along we come about as creek bed and we step over this dead log it's like a margarine and Sun has said something follow us last year. Yeah, it's this My following since I said the woods and So I turned around and start my pictures

[01:00:41] And we ended up getting out of there and We get back I get back home and I'm looking through the pictures that have put and I see it There's large Tane on looking creature that's literally laying on the ground

[01:00:55] I mean you can see it's face it's like a giant pitbull I mean it's crazy looking it's all my instagram and my channel as well And I showed at the him he's like dude what the hell is that? I said That's a that's a dog man

[01:01:08] He said that thing was following us. I said yeah It's pretty well how a picture man. I think that could believe that thing was right there I mean we could hear it but we never saw it

[01:01:21] Yeah, that's crazy as well. I'm almost sorry if they say they can cloak as well That's I mean that I think the cameras can tick it up It's a very like different description or to the first one. Yes. Yeah, yeah, and I mean

[01:01:37] I'll send you to picture after this and actually the one that was talking about earlier I'm familiar with that dog man as a whale I've captured it on film December 17th But that was in my restart area so this thing

[01:01:53] Was further down in my research area and then January 29th a little over a month later It was further on up the mountain where I had this encounter. I'll have to send you to picture a bit as well

[01:02:07] I mean most of the time if I've captured on film. I probably ran into them like the Alfalfa one that I was talking about earlier. I've captured him on film And then the reddish brown one. I think I've captured it on film one

[01:02:25] So I think I'll have to go through as I've got I've got hours and hours and hours of videos That I still haven't ran through yet. I'm too hot strong. I'm always going at always video and I got to get everything transferred over and down

[01:02:39] Oh, I'm I'm hot strong. I can't help it. Yeah, no, I mean that's that's been Crazy and no what I expected to be honest really I didn't really know what to expect from me from this episode but

[01:02:53] That they yeah you've definitely blew me mind with that well I I tried to but I like I said I ain't no wait I'm not going to claim to be I'm an amateur and I just want to try and raise them awareness for people to let them know

[01:03:07] These things are out there and I've had a very great time with you to leave Really appreciate this maybe next time I can catch up with you and your buddy Yeah, definitely definitely I was gonna say I mean you know you don't have any more

[01:03:22] Encounters of anything then the XA will definitely get you back on oh yeah I'm bound to have another one I mean, I never I'm out there. I'm booted on the ground and that's the only way to do it

[01:03:33] You got if you're gonna go out looking for these things you gotta go out and look Yeah, yeah, kind of I'm actually going to come in nothing you don't rather Yeah, yeah, it'll happen eventually. I'm sure because apparently they apparently they'll

[01:03:48] If you're marked the apparently you can be marked by these things and that's why they'll show themselves to you apparently They'll follow you home But yeah, right? But never know I'll never know until it happens If I feel something smack the hell, I know something's going on

[01:04:04] Yeah, well the sizes of me will definitely know about it. Yeah Well first how did you want to just remind everyone where they can find you? Yes everybody can find me on my Facebook group big foot reports and data. It's the end symbol

[01:04:20] I mean you can find me on my other social media platforms that same way as well my YouTube channel my TikTok game my Instagram Yeah Cool cool. Well, except me if you send me all your links I'll stick them into the description and everything

[01:04:32] Obviously I'll put one hour Instagram tag you whenever things are people can find you easy enough Alrighty my friends sounds great. I greatly appreciate it. I'll ask time Yeah, me too. Yeah, right then guys. Thanks for listening

[01:04:45] I'll switch on to the next time Billy is there to say his lines. That's okay