Let's Talk About... Catching Demons with Issac Part2. Ep.44

[00:00:07] Right then guys, welcome back to Let's Talk About. Now let's carry on with Part 2 of our

[00:00:11] conversation with Issac from Hidden in the Shadows Podcast.

[00:00:15] Well my last big challenge that I have yet to do is see how I favor against someone who

[00:00:26] is fully possessed and I'm talking full on and yet strapping them in a chair, performing

[00:00:31] an exorcism level possess. You know speaking in tongues, that level. And to see if I can

[00:00:38] actually pull a demon out of someone fully possessed. That's my last great challenge.

[00:00:45] Now I've done several oppression cases. 29 out of the 38 cases I've done so far have

[00:00:54] been oppression cases. Demonic oppression and the rest have just been me pulling negative

[00:01:01] spirits at people's homes. But yeah all oppression cases they seem to see and what was interesting

[00:01:07] is that one of the ones I did not the third the last that I did was pretty profound because

[00:01:12] like I said Mike in Canada from unknown paranormal he finds me cases over there and it has

[00:01:20] me remotely pulled like I'm doing talking to you and one of the people that he was like

[00:01:25] his dad's neighbor and there are Filipino and they had all these shrines and stuff I

[00:01:35] got to I don't know about religion but it's they thought it was coming from the room and

[00:01:41] yeah there was something in that room that I pulled I was crawling on the ceiling.

[00:01:44] But when I pulled everything from the house and I cleared the kids mind forest right Mike

[00:01:52] and Mike's dad and the kids that all witness because he had a pale complexion when I was

[00:01:58] talking to him on the phone like I'm talking to you explaining what I was doing explain

[00:02:01] how I'm gonna help them all that stuff his parents were listening as well and he was

[00:02:05] pay off man this kids Filipino I thought maybe just this agent because there is

[00:02:09] family's all you know my complexion yeah and I was like okay and then I said all right

[00:02:16] so Mike it's all set you're all good you can give him all the news afterwards and I hung

[00:02:20] up with him he told me did you sure stuck around why because that kids complexion came

[00:02:24] back like I saw him turn from pale to having color in his skin and all come

[00:02:29] back like my dad witnessed it and hit the kids that they're like holy crap like

[00:02:33] oh shit really like yeah I don't think that would happen I thought he was I

[00:02:37] just pay I didn't know that whatever was oppressing him was causing his complexion

[00:02:41] to leave his body but yeah that was that was one of like profound experience

[00:02:45] that Mike's like holy crap and Mike is so I don't know he is so embedded

[00:02:54] embedded and dead like connected to me for the fact that I helped out him and

[00:02:59] his family and that's how reason we gave him that one that we met only a

[00:03:02] paranormal round table first we kept close but then what his his son was

[00:03:08] being oppressed that's when he was like I want to deal with this my way and it

[00:03:12] just got worse and he's like he said he kind of had a swallow his pride and

[00:03:17] call me to see if I could help because him as an investigator been

[00:03:20] professionally for so long thought he could deal with himself and when he

[00:03:24] called me pulled the stuff from his house to carry everything clear to

[00:03:28] son's mind forced out and literally said the next day was like entirely

[00:03:32] different house entirely different his son was better he didn't draw

[00:03:36] horrific things like he was doing before he was happy again people came over the

[00:03:40] house because it said that it didn't feel negative anymore it felt good and

[00:03:45] after that day he was like this guy's real I want to help him out and

[00:03:49] that's how we became good friends and now he does he finds cases for me

[00:03:52] around the Vancouver area to me help people there yeah so just for anyone

[00:04:00] who doesn't know and myself because I'm a hundred percent sure what's the

[00:04:04] difference between possession and oppression Megan my wife she had a

[00:04:10] perfect analogy for oppression if you can imagine your body as a vehicle like a

[00:04:17] like a car you're driving down the highway and you're the driver your soul

[00:04:20] is a driver oppression is the demon running beside you banging on the

[00:04:26] window trying to flatten your tires right he's banging a glass breaking in

[00:04:31] has his arm might scratch you a couple of times he's trying to get into the car

[00:04:36] right he's trying to get in there he might even he might he might make it in

[00:04:39] he might get his half his body in the window he has his hands around your

[00:04:42] neck and stuff like that but you're able to shove him away I turn on

[00:04:45] certain music prayers and get him out stuff like that he's gonna shit and

[00:04:49] he runs away for a little bit he's still holding onto the car he's in

[00:04:51] in fact that's oppression possession is when you're in the trunk now tied up and

[00:04:58] he's driving yeah that's possession yeah because that's a guy that's good

[00:05:09] way to describe it basically the demon has taken over you belong to him now

[00:05:13] but in a I guess a more philosophical idea mindset is that the whole reason

[00:05:20] a demon chooses somebody is because they feel like they can break this person

[00:05:23] down to possess their body and oppression is a time space of them the

[00:05:28] demon breaking you down mentally haunting you scaring you working on your

[00:05:33] emotions basically causing everyone around you to you hate everyone just want to

[00:05:37] be alone you don't be bothered by anyone you're scared you're depressed

[00:05:41] you're ain't all your negative emotions everything that you feel negatively

[00:05:45] it's like a drug to them and the more you give it they more than want

[00:05:49] and that's why they get very violent when someone tries to show them away

[00:05:53] and that's what I make it worse they tell the tell the person they're

[00:05:56] oppressing you so tell you bring a priest here I'm gonna kill your family

[00:05:59] threats and all that stuff so that's why most times people don't reach out to

[00:06:01] anybody and then that's why I said I want priests over because it's just

[00:06:05] gonna make it worse and they don't look for help and then when finally

[00:06:08] they're so broken down mentally they have nothing no willpower left they

[00:06:13] just give up and when they give up boom the demon takes control is in has

[00:06:18] full control your body and then in most cases most people do not last after

[00:06:24] that they commit suicide they've they kill themselves they die of malnutrition

[00:06:29] or whatever the reason but they do not survive very long after being

[00:06:34] possessed there's a few cases out there people living years with it but

[00:06:37] majority of the possession cases I've ever heard about the people don't live

[00:06:40] very long but their possession is more rare than oppression because usually

[00:06:46] someone gets help before the possession even happens usually they'll get a

[00:06:51] priest involved or a shaman or a light worker or something someone in order to

[00:06:56] help push back whatever is there to a point where it leaves the person

[00:06:59] alone that it's oppressing so possession is I would say rare but is

[00:07:03] rarer than oppression oppression happens a lot possession happens less like a

[00:07:08] percent of the oppression cases right that's why I said to me to find

[00:07:12] someone possessed and distrust the church enough to have me come you know take

[00:07:18] care of it that it's like a perfect store so I've still waited for the

[00:07:23] opportunity to do that but yet the camera prompts it but oppression cases

[00:07:28] no I've like I said 29 already I've done out of the 38 home cases I've done

[00:07:33] so far so so as for finding a possession case if you like you know

[00:07:40] is there anyone you know you can like reach out to it could possibly like you

[00:07:45] know help you get involved or something like that or is that just going to be

[00:07:48] you know you're gonna have to just wait I made a lot of friends with paranormal

[00:07:55] investigators but I've also been a lot of enemies with paranormal investigators

[00:07:59] because what I do and what I'm doing is taking away their bread and butter I

[00:08:05] am taking away every location I go to investigation wise my goal is not

[00:08:10] to capture evidence my goal is to take everything dark out of there and my

[00:08:15] wife helps every spirit that's there crossover who wants to leave we don't

[00:08:20] force anybody to leave she says hey his door guys want to leave again and most

[00:08:24] of the time with some spirits actually choose to stay because we made the place

[00:08:27] nice for them they got we got rid of all the bullies so now they want to hang

[00:08:30] around like all places nice so I actually choose to stay behind it

[00:08:33] protect it so who do we know who we decided you have to leave so we let

[00:08:38] me we don't make anybody leave but that is detrimental to

[00:08:42] and parallel investigating because you're out there to collect evidence and if

[00:08:45] there's nothing to collect evidence from why are you even there so like we

[00:08:49] said we've earned a bad reputation with some clout chaser paranormal

[00:08:53] investigators from actually trying to help people plus you those who do

[00:08:58] home cases and all they do is collect evidence say yeah see you later how

[00:09:02] you help that person how have you helped that family you just go there

[00:09:05] collect evidence and leave yeah you told them what's already there they already

[00:09:08] know that right so that's had a problem but other investigators out there and

[00:09:14] that I know of would try to contact me in such a location granted I know

[00:09:19] they're probably trying other paths first and then when things get too tough

[00:09:22] then they called me as like the their race in the hole but I always tell

[00:09:28] them like dude I'm at your back and call there's any investigators listening

[00:09:31] now or potential investigators anybody knows any criminal investigators I'm

[00:09:37] not hard to reach simple Instagram message simple Instagram video call

[00:09:41] you need to pull something from your house boom I do it and that's the other

[00:09:44] thing too I do all of this my services with my ability my force-cleaning

[00:09:51] house-cleaning all that stuff I do it for free no cost no catch no nothing

[00:09:59] absolutely free I don't ask for anything and that again is another thing

[00:10:05] because you're that way you're the guy on top of the food chain taking the

[00:10:08] stuff out and get you don't charge anybody for it yeah because I feel it

[00:10:12] morally wrong to do so and it's hard for me to trust any psychic mediums

[00:10:17] out there that do charge people for their services how do I know you're

[00:10:20] being genuine because you're doing it for personal gain so the more you hook

[00:10:26] someone in to get them to do more services with you the more money you

[00:10:29] make therefore creating a vicious cycle of continuation because you want to

[00:10:34] earn money from that person so that's why I don't charge I don't do anything

[00:10:38] except plus how do you charge someone for 30 minutes of time 30 minutes is my

[00:10:44] record from taking stuff out of a house clearing a mind force and done I

[00:10:47] don't feel right doing it charging someone especially with people that are

[00:10:51] desperate people have asked me would you take donations I said yeah we got a

[00:10:57] thing set up that if you want to donate them to us it's fine I'm not gonna tell

[00:11:00] you how much I'm not gonna tell you when you when you want to do it if you want

[00:11:04] to do it hey go ahead you want to throw me dollar that's fine I don't care

[00:11:07] right if you feel like you need to donate me something go ahead but I'm

[00:11:10] not gonna ask you to send me anything around like that so but that's just

[00:11:15] seem to be the hang of a lot of other people because a lot of people out

[00:11:17] there that charge people out the wazoo for you know just oh there's something in

[00:11:21] your house yeah thank you I knew that already I'll be a hundred twenty dollars

[00:11:25] please right like I'm the guy you called it okay

[00:11:30] he's over here all right that's our it's all clear if you're all set but really

[00:11:35] again there anymore but that was like 30 yeah no all right see you later that's

[00:11:40] it right in and out fashion that delivers the man from pizza now I am I like

[00:11:49] that though because that I mean then I won't lie that is a problem I do have

[00:11:53] with some like you know I said I just think if you have that ability then

[00:12:02] why to actually require it especially the ones who will you know they pass on

[00:12:08] messages and stuff and I'm just like well if you if you can do that why are

[00:12:12] you charging for it that's like having a phone where you can speak to dead people

[00:12:15] but only you can hear them and it's just like why charge for if you if you

[00:12:20] got that ability to help someone and pass on a message why do you need money

[00:12:23] for it just do it for do it to be nice yeah my wife is she's practiced

[00:12:32] with it and got very good at it but she is afraid to tell much people about it

[00:12:38] because she feels like she'll be overrun with people doing it but I told it it

[00:12:43] it's less people are gonna contact you think because her mobile viewing skills

[00:12:46] allow her to find people who have crossed over who passed on so if you

[00:12:51] have a relative who's dead or something like that you want to get a

[00:12:53] message from when I talked to ask a question she can go find in the second

[00:12:57] you show her a picture yeah and he's talked to a lot of people who pass

[00:13:00] over a lot of my friends I really lost two friends who passed on she went talk to

[00:13:05] them found them my grandparents who passed away found them knew what they were

[00:13:08] doing her grandfather her aunt anybody who's a who's tired we know of she's

[00:13:15] talked to my aunt who's passed away found her it was easy for and has gotten

[00:13:19] easier and she knows when someone has crossed over it is in a positive

[00:13:26] place and she knows what someone's crossed over is in a negative place and

[00:13:31] she knows when the spirit is struggling to get a message around and she knows

[00:13:36] when one has found peace and it goes all about my color like if they have light

[00:13:41] behind them or if they look back there in the woods or they're in the field

[00:13:44] or stuff like that and she's learned to figure out okay this is a sentence

[00:13:47] that so like a recent one she's family I wanted to know if their father is

[00:13:52] crossed over and he's in a better place and she's well send me a picture

[00:13:55] and she sent a picture she found that she meditated for like a couple minutes

[00:13:58] and she talked to him and she found him like in a field and it was like the

[00:14:02] son was kind of setting behind him was it kind of bright and she was explaining

[00:14:06] why she was there why she was talking to him and he's he told her to tell his

[00:14:10] family anytime you hear I think it was a BG song staying alive right

[00:14:18] anytime you hear that on the radio just know I'm around and I'm with you

[00:14:22] and said that's how I'll talk to you I'll talk to your music and she

[00:14:27] relayed that so it was like she asked him it's a song staying alive at the BGs

[00:14:30] and they they fucking were like blown away and shocked because like how the hell

[00:14:35] would you even know his favorite song how would you know that they were like

[00:14:39] and he explained and they were like literally in tears and stuff like that

[00:14:42] cool what she told them and and they were like they were happy and stuff

[00:14:45] like that and she was like I don't know how many times I could do that

[00:14:52] I give people peace in one way you're gonna probably get people in the piece of another way

[00:14:55] we how do we say we don't do that that's selfish on our part because it have a

[00:15:00] profound ability like ours and not help people that's you know I can't like I said I've told

[00:15:06] you I can't sit on the sidelines though I have to do what I do yeah I feel selfish if I don't

[00:15:12] knowing I have this gift and I can't help but I choose not to help people

[00:15:15] no I have to yeah well big respect for me for that I mean

[00:15:20] well I always go back because there's a brilliant YouTube video out there the guy that used to

[00:15:25] watch when I was younger and he does that little experiment on there it's like over

[00:15:30] like this psychic mediums who work over over the phone or over things like this

[00:15:36] and in the video he shows like a full like fake profile they've made of his grandma who's

[00:15:40] dead I mean she's not he's completely made it up so then he feeds them little bits of

[00:15:45] information and then they're giving him all this information about a person who doesn't even

[00:15:49] exist and then they're charging like 30 pounds a minute you know and it's just like

[00:15:55] he cost him a fortune making a video like but I mean he said it was worth it to prove that a

[00:16:01] lot of these people are just out there doing things like this for the money and to me to me

[00:16:07] it's just it's just really low I think yeah because it's playing with people's emotions

[00:16:14] in my opinion well it is but I think you can do it for even just help people

[00:16:21] it's been my gripe and like I said I've earned a lot of enemies and I know the more

[00:16:27] let's say famous I get but at least more known I get I'm probably gonna earn more hatred

[00:16:32] on that fact alone because I'm like I said I'm challenging the status quo of what always

[00:16:39] supposed to have been and one thing that was very obvious to me later on

[00:16:45] and I know you didn't ask it I don't know if you're wrong about asking but most people feel

[00:16:49] weird about asking like what is your faith what is your religion you do this stuff yet

[00:16:52] you take down demons you know demons exist you believe they do so what is your faith what is

[00:16:55] your religion and as you tell them why I was Christian but when I say that I'm not saying

[00:17:01] I disbelieve in Yahweh or Yahshua I believe every god that's ever been worshiped or prayed to exist

[00:17:11] all of them and whoever you pray to worship to is the one you have the connection to

[00:17:17] so I would say I believe in all of them but I I can't hang out the Nordic camp just because

[00:17:22] one Odin talked to me and two the Nordic runes seem to have a protection for us so I'm like

[00:17:28] it's hang out here I've learned about all the different faiths in the world ancient faiths from

[00:17:33] Zoroastrianism to Manichaeism to Gnosticism to ancient Mesopotamia to the Hinduism from

[00:17:41] Buddhism all the Nordic all the Native American faiths learning about them the ancient Aztecs

[00:17:47] ancient Mayans what they believe and stuff like that even looking into Judaism Islam to see if

[00:17:54] they have any inkling of a legend about someone like me no but yet learning about the different

[00:18:02] faiths and stuff like that's kind of led me to understand as one Pacific thing I'm necessary

[00:18:10] in this world in this time space we are right now to take out dark stuff right and people

[00:18:15] could say oh the spiritual war and the balancing of energies they're using too many words to

[00:18:20] describe something simple right over explaining something very simple it's all about awakening

[00:18:26] and becoming more in tune to your higher self yes that's that's true and that's why we have multiple

[00:18:32] lives to gain different perspectives over our lives to understand and that's why you meet people

[00:18:37] who are old souls and versus people who are just assholes and old souls far wise and mature

[00:18:42] for their age versus someone in the late 40s you still piece of crap because probably their

[00:18:47] third or second time around so they're still children in a sense yeah but what I learned about

[00:18:55] being necessary unnecessary in this lifetime and why I'm necessary is because I come down to the

[00:19:04] simple fact of not say belief but realization is that the gods can't help us here they can

[00:19:13] influence they can teach they can guide but they cannot help us here and I was like holy crap that

[00:19:21] makes a lot of sense because if they could I would never have been necessary psychics and

[00:19:28] mediums would never be necessary heal healers would never be necessary no one in in any kind

[00:19:34] of supernatural abilities would be necessary if the gods could help us here like I said

[00:19:42] they can guide they can influence they can help in matters of speaking through us through dreams

[00:19:46] and meditations but as helping us here no so that's what even more evidence in knowing that I

[00:19:53] should be doing what I'm doing for the fact that seems so far no one else can do what I do

[00:19:57] plus besides two other people who are technically in my family now um who I can help out so um

[00:20:06] but yeah that's where I stand with spiritual things when it comes to

[00:20:10] that evidence and the truth of that and I said let's go ahead and piss off a lot of people because

[00:20:16] you have a lot of people out to that no it was a miracle no and that was chance

[00:20:20] but I I witnessed angels yeah you witnessed it in your mind you witnessed it through your third eye

[00:20:25] you saw on the higher plane of existence you saw what was there you have a gift you have

[00:20:33] by angels or being saved by a god or a miracle or a chance like that thinking that it how and one of

[00:20:40] those beings helped you no because if they could I would never have my ability to do what I'm doing

[00:20:47] now because I mean funny I asked um several christians on tiktok doing live and shit like that

[00:20:54] and this would upsets them I asked them the question just to hear their their perspective

[00:20:59] if a man came along with an ability to imprison demons in dark entities what would you call him

[00:21:09] their first instinct they always say oh Jesus Christ or oh a apostle oh uh you know some kind

[00:21:16] of religious figure every single time not to relate to the guy who actually can do that

[00:21:22] is nor a christian nor an apostle no g re card use none of that shit all right and

[00:21:30] that's what I said that's gonna piss them off and I've already talked to my mom who's very she

[00:21:33] I she I can't like um about it and she was like she doesn't understand because she wants to believe

[00:21:40] me but she can't understand how I can do this and I go why because in her faith she's been told

[00:21:46] that only god has the power to do that that only jesus has the power to do that to and

[00:21:50] do that to demon and stuff like that I'm like that might be where your hang up is

[00:21:58] yeah I mean I think I think you're right you definitely are going to get some people who

[00:22:04] you know are going to be happy about obviously what you say you can do what you can do but then

[00:22:10] you are going to get other people who you're gonna get I think more respect for them for it I think

[00:22:15] it's just all gonna depend on people's beliefs because I mean I mean me personally I don't have

[00:22:22] any sort of religious faith or anything I never have but you do believe things out there exist

[00:22:31] yeah well I like you said I've got that's what I mean but I also I don't know because I think

[00:22:36] for me religion I because because of what I was taught at school it's all you know about

[00:22:41] earthquake being created in seven days and that sort of stuff like that's the stuff that

[00:22:45] I don't believe and that just I don't know I don't suppose I don't really know what I believe in

[00:22:52] like I've never actually followed any sort of faith so but as far as I'm concerned I am not

[00:22:57] religious but like I do believe there's things out there yeah at least I know Odin's out there

[00:23:05] because I heard his voice which that was a strange part but um and why would you reach out to

[00:23:10] you know someone who is not of Nordic heritage yeah um I know people hear my voice you can't see me

[00:23:17] and probably even see me you're probably guessing well what is this guy yeah he doesn't have an

[00:23:21] accent to his voice he's American yes but he doesn't sound like American from a certain spot so

[00:23:26] what is he uh I am Mexican 100 100 well not 100% actually I found it when I'm 30 I'm actually

[00:23:41] is actually Choctaw native my great grandfather my mother's grandfather was a Choctaw and Native

[00:23:49] person and I was like but she goes yeah you know they're a little bit like this kind of helped me

[00:23:53] when I was applying for college in school I could have used that for scholarships um so I have

[00:23:58] it a bit of indigenous in me but essentially all Hispanics are half indigenous and half Spanish

[00:24:04] because the Spanish as you know your history conquered majority of the Latin American countries

[00:24:09] Mexico or South America and stuff like that so technically we're all half Spanish and half indigenous

[00:24:15] whatever tribes are there so that might be a clue to my ability maybe it's something in my bloodline

[00:24:22] that goes back you know thousand years or so of some ancient shaman who was this powerful and now

[00:24:28] over time uh awoken again in me hmm yeah that could be a clue uh so exactly what we thought of

[00:24:37] I didn't even ask my dad I was like you know any great grandfathers or relatives of ours that were

[00:24:44] like psychic or meeting were possible like a witch or anything like that you know no me

[00:24:48] whole I don't know what you're talking about I don't know no one in our family no we know

[00:24:50] what did they do stuff like that yeah my dad's lived here in America since he was 12 and he

[00:24:55] still has an accent so but um yeah there's no and then my mother's side of the family

[00:25:04] nothing I was like dang it there's nothing there I was like so why just me why after generation

[00:25:09] the generations of lifetime no one with any kind of ability else on ipop of my wife on the other hand

[00:25:14] no her mother her grandmother her great grandmother all psychic and mediums and they

[00:25:20] have the Italian bloodline but also have a bit of a gypsy bloodline as well right so that's

[00:25:26] that's been carried down and of course he just intensified every lifetime to our Megan is

[00:25:30] you know very strong very powerful yeah that's just a just a straight one I like

[00:25:39] you say obviously we're right no none of you are family background maybe it maybe it's one

[00:25:44] of them things that like you know it's skipped so many generations maybe I don't know well then

[00:25:50] I started thinking maybe it's not the vessel maybe it's the soul yeah maybe it's the soul that

[00:25:55] has the ability and the vessel is just capable of using it right because that that makes more sense

[00:26:01] the idea that I was this bloodline carried down from it as I said it plays a part and say it's

[00:26:07] not important but it it's it's not the entire piece of the pie what makes me me what makes my

[00:26:14] ability me I think has to do more with probably some ability that's transferred into my soul like

[00:26:19] some soul contract like hey you're gonna be able to do this at this time in life make sure

[00:26:23] you pick the right vessel all right um and of course all the lifetimes I lived and got up to this point

[00:26:32] and it's it worked out perfectly because me and Megan met me and Megan now we're having children

[00:26:36] so our children will take our place I know you guys that question in the beginning

[00:26:42] like if I die what happens to the ring to someone take it and pass it on

[00:26:46] it's gonna be carried down through my children um it's supposedly been foretold or prophesized

[00:26:55] even Megan's had visions of it um is that my daughter will take my place as a Nick Shadow Walker

[00:27:03] she will be more powerful than me and I've already described what I can do

[00:27:08] imagine someone more powerful holy crap um and she will take my place she will carry the ring

[00:27:13] she will do everything I'm doing now um and continue on doing whatever that essentially is so

[00:27:18] and then her children and then um here's a really weird freaking part uh is that content

[00:27:26] wants I had my connection with my spirit guides and I talked to them and it's funny

[00:27:31] is that when I talk to my spirit guys I'm talking to you I meditate I go to my place where I built

[00:27:35] in my mind forest where I contact and I talk to them like around around it was originally

[00:27:41] a campfire now it's around the table um where we discuss everything and they were telling me

[00:27:47] be prepared to come back as your descendant and your family bloodline because before I'd

[00:27:54] been scattered across other families throughout history different bloodlines because I was in

[00:27:58] Scotland I was in I was a Templar Knight uh I was a Native American I was a gun singer in the

[00:28:06] West I was an Italian hitman like I've lived different lives and different there's never

[00:28:09] been a connection to this family um but since I'm going to have children they're going to continue

[00:28:14] on that bloodline is going to connect and make perfect vessels to house's ability but they

[00:28:19] were saying that I most likely am going to come back as my great-granddaughter my next life time

[00:28:26] and it was even stranger is that let's let's talk about time she is listening to this

[00:28:35] right now if this media still exists and stuff like that right if we say if hopefully the world

[00:28:42] doesn't end in a hundred years or so right digital media might change throughout time

[00:28:48] but it'll still be recorded still in the space of an air net so everything I've set up on a podcast

[00:28:53] everything I've ever written down everything I have for her she knows about and she's even

[00:28:57] listening to this so she's listening to her great-grandfather talk about that I'm her

[00:29:04] in the future but is her current time so that alone messed with your fucking head

[00:29:11] your future vessel your next life is listening to you speak because now we have recorded digital

[00:29:24] media and we're talking about this and those are lifetimes prior did we talk about this

[00:29:28] live ever record it and did anyone ever know hey my next lifetime is most likely going to be you

[00:29:34] be prepared so me saying that I will know who I am kind of in my next life but all memories of

[00:29:44] me is going to be gone she might have flashes here and there but you'll know okay I was my

[00:29:51] great-grandfather I have disability I can do this right this is my new vessel but she'll have

[00:29:56] no memory of everything I've ever done any thought all the stuff that I know now from what she's been

[00:30:01] told but yeah all my memories deletes and then of course she'll be next vessel that shit that stuff

[00:30:09] is like that's out out there and cosmic space belief and ideas and it just messes with your head

[00:30:17] yeah that's crazy because I mean you can you could say that the proof for that then

[00:30:22] is if then she does have the ability that you have then that's almost your proof

[00:30:29] yeah but I won't know for a hundred years yeah no but I mean like she'll know yeah I mean I saw

[00:30:36] like you said if she likes it so she listens to you now saying this that she's going to have

[00:30:40] your ability and then she has that ability then there's her proof then she knows yeah there

[00:30:47] was a theory I heard one time time causality or precocanzali there's something about time

[00:30:53] essentially that can the future influence the past right and I was like that doesn't make any sense

[00:31:00] how does something that has not happened yet influence of this already happened and it's a

[00:31:05] theory in quantum mechanics and quantum theory when they're studying it and now that I remember

[00:31:10] I still podcast talk about that I was like what the fuck they're explaining how it sounds

[00:31:14] and yeah it gets a little boring because they're using scientific terminology and stuff like that

[00:31:18] and I don't understand any of this but it sounds really cool um and with that in mind

[00:31:24] I was listening to one of my playlists and I have a lot of playlists because I'm a big fan of music

[00:31:28] but I was listening to one of my my plays on my favorite songs and I was listening to one of

[00:31:33] them and I was listening to it as I was trying to meditate at the same time I felt like I was

[00:31:40] looking through someone else's eyes and I felt like I was meditating and connected to another person

[00:31:48] but that person was me and I saw my hand and the hand was daintier thinner smaller like a woman's

[00:31:56] hand or like a teenage girl um but the skin color is almost the same too like she was still

[00:32:04] brown so at least it tells me that we're probably gonna be brown in the next lifetime

[00:32:08] or color um but she her hand was smaller and the nails were painted black and I could see the hand

[00:32:15] and she was laying down in her bed the same way I was laying down in my bed listening to the same song

[00:32:21] at the same time a hundred years separated with the same thought process in mind I want to try

[00:32:28] to get in contact with my great-granddaughter she was probably thinking I want to get in contact

[00:32:32] with my great-grandfather and as we were connected I was able to spend my ability in my time in my

[00:32:37] hand and I saw what I saw but I can with my tendrils I can oh say over over time put a pen in

[00:32:47] that for a second over time I was able to when I grab an entity I can pull the elemental energy

[00:32:52] off of them so an entity's made of fire or water or wind or electricity I can pull the

[00:32:57] energy off and absorb it into my tendrils so over time I learned to control different

[00:33:02] elements in my hand so when I spend my hands like a tornado fire electricity and I can use that to

[00:33:08] help me weaken an entity that I come across so I can electrify it I can burn it I can freeze it

[00:33:13] I can cause a windstorm whatever but of course no one can see this is the fourth dimensional

[00:33:17] space so like earth elements I'm controlling in this time space right or this lifetime

[00:33:24] what I saw in her hand was the space those galaxies was like a a nebula of energy spinning in her hand

[00:33:35] so if I control elemental energy here she's controlling cosmic energy in my next lifetime

[00:33:46] and I saw that for a second before and we I haven't had that connection I try to do again

[00:33:51] is that it'll like the stars aligned at that time you would say yeah and I was able to see her

[00:33:55] she was able to see me for maybe a minute yeah that's just again my glowing crazy

[00:34:05] yeah I'm not just trying to get my head around that like I say I mean it's

[00:34:10] it's nearly one of them for me and like this is gonna keep me awake now

[00:34:15] like can I leave a message for my future self can I do that like the thing is

[00:34:21] I always thought like I was given a cheat code I was given a secret that I know exactly where

[00:34:28] I'm going to be when I die and I come back again a lot of people don't have that information

[00:34:33] nor did they even believe that information like you might not come back as some of your

[00:34:37] relative you might not be can't come back as my descendants you might join an entirely

[00:34:41] family an entirely different part of the world right say you were in India for majority of life

[00:34:46] and next life you're a Canadian or next life that you're in like South America next life that

[00:34:50] you're in Australia like you could jump across the world and be different families different

[00:34:55] races different stuff like that the energy just keep moving whatever lesson you feel like you

[00:34:59] need to learn but now I know oh this is my this is my lesson this is my my purpose this

[00:35:06] is why I exist this is why my soul was here to essentially wage war on darkness on negative energy

[00:35:14] to imprison as much as I can and to keep them in prison my future selves will be here a shadow

[00:35:24] walker always be here to ensure that they stay in check that they stay and we keep taking over

[00:35:31] and over again throughout every lifetime like now it's started now we can continue this or keep it

[00:35:37] going for ever how long we need to yeah yeah that's just again I'm just my mind blown completely

[00:35:46] not only I know I've told the story forgot how many times but it just it's it's so out there

[00:35:56] like even when I hear myself talking about it's like it's like yeah I can see people going

[00:36:00] this is a bunch of bullshit what the fuck you're talking about I have no proof I have four testimony

[00:36:06] episodes out of the 38 people I've helped because a lot of people do not want to come forward and

[00:36:10] talk about this the most profound out of all of them testimony episodes that I've recorded with

[00:36:15] someone who have helped uh it's a woman named Dow and I helped out her son uh he was being

[00:36:23] oppressed to a point where he couldn't walk he was literally dragging himself on the floor

[00:36:27] he's 13 years old there's no reason for him to be in that kind of level of depression and pain

[00:36:31] after one visit with me all gone closed the portal in her backyard took everything out

[00:36:37] cleared his mind for us helped him figure out his ability and why they were following him

[00:36:42] and she says it's like it never happened like it never it was a bad memory and literally

[00:36:49] like every once a month she messes just saying thank you I appreciate it he wouldn't be the

[00:36:54] same without you like she's extremely grateful um I think I think Mike was talking about having her

[00:37:00] back on the podcast again just to go over everything but I was like she's real secretive with her family

[00:37:06] she doesn't want like any of her extended family to know about this stuff like she even believes in

[00:37:10] this stuff but uh no that episode we recorded with her you can hear her and I know from

[00:37:18] the conversations I've had with her there is more that happened that she's not telling me about

[00:37:21] like more stuff that happened between her and her husband to her family her son and stuff like that

[00:37:26] that she probably feels like it's too traumatizing to talk about but uh yeah she was probably the most

[00:37:32] profound person I've helped so far there was like the extremely like every day like that she

[00:37:37] would message us every day if she wanted to but she says I don't want to be a burden I was like

[00:37:41] that's no problem um but yeah I have proof in the idea of people I've helped I had proof

[00:37:47] in the idea that if you investigated with me in a location that you went to that you felt negative

[00:37:51] energy from and I go there I take all I do what I do and you feel the the environment change like holy

[00:37:58] shit there's a guy who brought with me on investigation one time helping me out on a Halloween episode

[00:38:03] and he was a non-believer he was a skeptic but I worked with him he's like this kind of

[00:38:07] cool when it comes like yeah you go work the camera he said after the investigation was done

[00:38:12] he said I don't know if I believe in the paranormal but I believe in you uh

[00:38:16] because he said when he walked in this place he was his fight or flight was going off he was

[00:38:20] scared he was looking around he felt like people watched you know he felt like something was

[00:38:24] gonna happen any second but he said after I got done doing what I did as we were leaving he said

[00:38:29] it's like an entirely different vibe like I could stay here I can hang out here now I don't feel

[00:38:34] scared I don't feel things going on like you changed the the vibe you changed the energy here

[00:38:40] like I said I don't know if there's that ghost exist or not but I believe you knew what you do

[00:38:45] so that's the most profound thing I can have until I capture the footage and be pulling demon

[00:38:52] as someone is possessed on that you know that will stick hey watch that but until that happens I'll

[00:38:58] all I have is people's testimonies and a small amount of pictures and in videos a kind of

[00:39:05] say hey is something going on but nothing ever really that concrete the other one was um

[00:39:12] I figured out or at least try to I did ground polls at the end of an investigation like I'll pull an

[00:39:20] entire area after we were done going through the whole place just to catch whatever I might have missed

[00:39:26] but I think if that's not strong enough I need something stronger so I had the idea

[00:39:31] if I can put three points of energy and like a big triangle and connect those three points

[00:39:39] of energy like spears in the ground with both my hands generating a giant vortex in the center of

[00:39:45] this triangle to pull everything strongly to that point and I just grab everything at once like suck

[00:39:52] like suck up the entire room and grab the junk out leave or everything else behind and like can

[00:39:57] we try that so we try it out at the park we go to several times near our house it's called

[00:40:09] blow up every now and then but nothing serious the ground was still wet from the rain

[00:40:14] but it wasn't raining and I did that and when I combined and I pulled all of a sudden the

[00:40:21] wind kicked up to like hurricane I was at hurricane level but like it was a lot and powerful

[00:40:26] and literally felt wind blowing up from underneath my arms as I was doing this

[00:40:30] and you can hear it on the the body came you hear the wind kick up out of nowhere

[00:40:34] like it's blowing hard and then you see my right hand come out grab something in the middle and I

[00:40:39] pull it and when I do that the wind shuts off like someone flipped a switch like who just ended

[00:40:48] and and then Megan was like what the hell was that I was like I did the triangle pole

[00:40:52] and she was like that's like the and it's like we catch it on camera I don't know

[00:40:56] so look back at the footage you really see anything but you hear the winds like blow

[00:41:01] and then shut off the second I reach in and grab something we have that footage up on the

[00:41:06] I think of socials as well on Instagram and TikTok um which people say oh the wind was

[00:41:12] just blowing really hard in that moment of time and it was coincidence and stuff like that like okay

[00:41:18] so yeah I don't have a lot of a lot of footage of proof there are things that probably could do

[00:41:25] like I wish I had like a full spectrum camera or uh SLS right something that you can see the

[00:41:31] entity and I pull it and the thing is I was telling uh telling Mike that I think in the SLS

[00:41:36] camera if you caught a spirit what would happen if I pulled it you would see it like all

[00:41:39] sudden I get I suddenly it's arms slapped to its side of its legs and it stands up straight

[00:41:43] and I'll see you see it fold like a like a box and it move towards where I'm standing

[00:41:49] I think that's probably what you would always see in the SLS camera but that'd be cool to say though

[00:41:56] yeah I'd be very interesting to say but yeah I don't got the coin for that so

[00:42:03] yeah they are expensive but Billy has a lot of equipment and he's looked into them and they

[00:42:08] are very pricy yeah like a like a catch on camera or night vision that's the best I can do

[00:42:13] yeah um getting getting messages though from like say that lady you helped the sun or that must like

[00:42:21] that must really like help though like say obviously I know you said you've had some hate

[00:42:25] and stuff from people but getting getting messages like that that much like really

[00:42:29] you know make you want to carry on doing it yeah and it's um excuse me

[00:42:38] it's weird it's like I never I never liked being thanked and it was it's a strange sensation right

[00:42:44] I appreciate it but I'm like yeah just do my time I don't I don't I don't get like over

[00:42:50] emotional about or stuff like that but um it's probably to do with being on ADHD or being

[00:42:58] ADHD and stuff like that high functioning that I don't know how to interpret emotion of

[00:43:03] like people think you mean be overgrateful like I had no I know this was horrifying for you I know

[00:43:09] you were going through it you were feeling it you were having nightmares it was a terrible thing

[00:43:14] to me was just another Thursday so that's that's where the the the differentiation comes from

[00:43:21] like yeah I know it's bad for you but me just doing it simple it's easy doesn't take a lot out

[00:43:26] of me doesn't take a lot of me physically I can do probably 10 a day if I need to or if I had

[00:43:32] the opportunity to um but yeah it does it does it helps me carry on but it's like I don't have

[00:43:39] any doubts that I should be doing this I have a drive to need and want to do it

[00:43:44] yeah uh that's it that's what pushes me like I'm always looking for that next challenge

[00:43:49] I get bored just waiting around for something so for fun I'll go on tiktok and follow it

[00:43:56] look at any paranormal investigators lives and I'll pull from whatever they're doing

[00:44:03] get their location I'll reach in pull some stuff out but hey in the camera that way

[00:44:07] pulls us around and they have of course no idea what's going on all they're gonna figure out is

[00:44:11] hey why the vibe change and why also we're collecting less evidence right um and the thing

[00:44:16] is and they don't know it was just me I was doing that and another thing too what here's a part

[00:44:22] is parts of piss off sidekicks and mediums those you do tiktok lives and stuff like that I fear

[00:44:28] something out when I reach into their place and I pull something dark that tells me two things

[00:44:36] one they're not a psychic or medium because a real one would find out hey there's something

[00:44:40] dark in my house yeah or two the scarier part they're using said dark entity to help power

[00:44:49] whatever abilities they think they have in order to of course charge people for money for being a

[00:44:54] psychic or medium in both cases I don't I don't give them a chance I just pulled the shit out of there

[00:45:00] and uh yeah I pulled some dark stuff from people you would think that that person's nice they're

[00:45:06] so nice he seems like a good soul and stuff like that and I reach into their place and

[00:45:10] nope fucking dark entity pull it out of their house like yes this person is lying

[00:45:13] or they're using a shit so um and I simply leave a comment in their their feed calling them charlotton

[00:45:25] I suppose that that won't help with any potential hate coming your way like what

[00:45:30] I've gotten used to it now it's just like I know it's going to happen like I've already

[00:45:34] thought about it because one of my I guess skills was I was able to run scenarios in my head

[00:45:41] of future events and future things that could happen from evidence and stuff like that I always

[00:45:46] did it when I was a kid I wanted to be a mentalist when I was a kid I love the idea of able to read

[00:45:52] people know everything about them by just looking at them how they walk or talk so I learned like

[00:45:57] psychology when it comes to you know the outward appearance and then and micro expressions and able

[00:46:02] to read people and stuff like that and I would call myself an amateur mentalist at best

[00:46:06] I'm good at guessing people's music tastes by hanging around with somebody looking at them

[00:46:10] see how they dress you have to carry all that stuff um but and now I've just got good at knowing

[00:46:17] reading faces when someone's lying to me like I know when someone's lying to me I know when

[00:46:22] they're trying to hide information all those things I can read in their facial expressions

[00:46:26] how they stand the stuff like that Megan says it's a psychic ability now I'm reading their

[00:46:31] face like well it's kind of both so at the same time I was like but uh yeah I've

[00:46:39] I've gotten good at um doing that so it's helps me when I talk to people to gauge how far

[00:46:46] do I go down the rabbit hole with them like how much do I tell them do I tell them everything

[00:46:50] or to tell them see where they're they're hate for the weather the end of it is where they can't

[00:46:53] take anymore like do I go a little further do I stay back um and with the information that

[00:47:00] I've learned uh I've had to keep some of its secret uh because there's there's a a group of us

[00:47:09] who I call the inner circle which is myself Megan my sister um and two other people that

[00:47:18] are privy to certain information that if I were to tell people they would choose to not believe it

[00:47:26] or sorry refuse to believe it not because they would disbelieve it but they would don't want that

[00:47:31] kind of information they don't want to believe it so they would refuse to believe it and I have to

[00:47:37] make sure who I tell this information to that that person is capable of understanding that

[00:47:41] accepting it if I have to convince someone about the inner circle information you would

[00:47:46] never ready to hear it because everyone I've ever told is like oh it makes complete sense

[00:47:50] yeah like they were like oh okay that I had that question I had that idea already in my head

[00:47:55] now that makes sense like I finished something for them like a puzzle to try and solve

[00:48:00] those people I would say are qualified for inner circle information but right now

[00:48:07] majority of the people I've talked to are not uh I have a short list of people who were

[00:48:12] I could make put them in inner circle but I'm still waiting for several things to

[00:48:16] to clarify before I talk to them again but yeah there are things that I have learned

[00:48:20] that I can't tell everyone not for any other reason that they won't believe it and me telling a lot of

[00:48:29] people would really push them over the edge of belief right because I know whoever's listening now

[00:48:35] if you follow me this far right okay okay this this this this is that right if you follow me this

[00:48:41] far and you're accepting it then okay you're good but if I go to where inner circle information

[00:48:46] is that's the point where I feel like I push almost 99% of people away so there are things

[00:48:54] that I prohibit you that I do not tell people but a lot of things I've experienced that I try telling

[00:49:00] people that uh are out there and weird even more further weird than what we just talked about

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