Let's Talk About... Mushroom People With Kevin! Ep.46

[00:00:05] Right then guys, welcome back to Lets Talk About Liam here today.

[00:00:08] Sadly no Billy has had to go to work but I am joined by Kevin from Where the Weird Ones

[00:00:14] Are.

[00:00:14] Kevin, welcome to the podcast.

[00:00:16] Thanks for having me man, happy to be here.

[00:00:19] No problem, no problem.

[00:00:20] Obviously your podcast Where the Weird Ones Are, do you want to quickly tell people

[00:00:24] about that who don't and if anyone doesn't, I don't know any of you?

[00:00:26] Yes sir, so I am the host of Where the Weird Ones Are.

[00:00:32] It's a conversational based podcast based on peoples in personal encounters with anything

[00:00:42] from paranormal to cryptids, mental health, UFOs, aliens, we talk about spirituality

[00:00:52] and conspiracies.

[00:00:54] Conspiracies are one of my ever growing favorite topics.

[00:00:59] One of my favorite topics on there is for conspiracies is Flat Earth, not saying that I believe

[00:01:06] it but I love talking about it.

[00:01:11] Which I think we discussed when you were on the show too a little bit for a brief moment.

[00:01:16] But yeah, it's been a fun progress through doing this.

[00:01:24] A lot of people have some really interesting stories and I love doing it and best way

[00:01:33] for any of your listeners to find it would be Apple and Spotify.

[00:01:39] It's also on Amazon Music and iHeart Radio for anybody who doesn't subscribe to the major

[00:01:46] platforms I guess.

[00:01:48] I guess Spotify and Apple would be the major podcast platforms at this point.

[00:01:53] I'm also on YouTube so if you like the video aspect of podcasting it's definitely up on

[00:02:02] there as well.

[00:02:03] I was going to put it on my website but for some reason my website is like nope this file

[00:02:10] is too big and I was like what the heck.

[00:02:12] Sometimes YouTube gets a little sensitive with what you talk about so I was like I really

[00:02:19] want to have something to like in case YouTube is like I don't like this episode because

[00:02:24] they have done that and they have deleted one of my episodes before and my website

[00:02:29] actually uses the same guidelines as YouTube and I was like oh no and then it wouldn't let

[00:02:35] me upload my video because it's too big anyway.

[00:02:38] Because my episodes are about an hour and a half to two hours long so a video file is

[00:02:46] huge.

[00:02:47] Audio is a lot smaller.

[00:02:51] But yeah that's me and in my show in a nutshell I guess.

[00:02:59] Yeah obviously I was on it recently which I really enjoyed and like I said I've listened

[00:03:03] to a few other episodes.

[00:03:05] Can't speak this morning.

[00:03:07] They have always got people on with really interesting stories.

[00:03:11] Like I said they are tightly podcasted and very well named.

[00:03:16] Thank you.

[00:03:17] We had shit.

[00:03:20] There's a lot of interesting people out there for sure.

[00:03:24] Yeah definitely.

[00:03:26] Yeah it's pretty bluntly speaking of weird shit.

[00:03:28] Obviously you have a very weird story of your own which I can't wait to hear properly.

[00:03:34] Yes yes so I know the story you're referring to so I'll start with that.

[00:03:40] So I was about ten years old.

[00:03:44] I started wearing glasses around eight or so.

[00:03:51] Which I used to get these like really bad migraines which is one of the reasons why we started going

[00:03:58] to see an eye doctor to begin with.

[00:04:00] So anyways so I got glasses and my sister and I used to go out in the little woods and

[00:04:06] pretend that we were hunting aliens or monsters or something like that.

[00:04:12] In this particular day we just happened to have like a light dusting of snow.

[00:04:19] So it was like October early November or something and we found something I think it was squirrel

[00:04:31] tracks in the woods.

[00:04:32] We were just riding our bikes around.

[00:04:34] We found some sort of squirrel tracks and we're like look an alien let's go get the

[00:04:38] alien.

[00:04:39] So we're running through the woods and making up stories as we walk and stuff like that.

[00:04:47] And I'm coming up to this creek that I used to play in especially in the summer I played

[00:04:52] in it all the time catching toads and shit and I'm coming up to this creek and on the

[00:04:56] other side of the creek is just this some more land obviously but it's a little opening

[00:05:03] and then all of a sudden it just seemed like a blue film covered my eyes or something just

[00:05:08] it like my eyes turned like a blue tint and probably about 15 10 15 maybe even 20 because

[00:05:17] I'm a bad judge of distance but about about in that range 10 to 20 feet in front of me

[00:05:25] was this little village of mushroom people and they're like stoking a fire a bunch

[00:05:30] of them and when I say mushroom people it's not like towed from Mario or anything like that

[00:05:38] they're literally just mushrooms walking around like their people.

[00:05:44] They had little stubby arms and stuff there was no face of any kind that I could tell

[00:05:48] anyway and I'm watching them and they just kind of like stop and they turn like they're

[00:05:55] facing me obviously I can't tell again I can't see faces but they also have like

[00:06:00] these little mushroom huts and stuff around and some of them are going up trees and stuff

[00:06:08] like that and I get this tap on the back of my head and my glasses fall off my face it

[00:06:13] wasn't like a violent tap or anything was just like enough to move my head and then

[00:06:18] I felt something on my shoulder so I turned my head and there's a mushroom on my shoulder

[00:06:23] and telepathically it goes you don't need those and I said my glasses and then it

[00:06:29] says yes and then just as it says yes like a flip of the switch snap of your fingers my

[00:06:36] sister staying there she's like are you alright and I'm like I lost my glasses so she comes

[00:06:41] over to try and help me find my glasses and then all of a sudden you just hear crunch

[00:06:47] and I was like oh no and then I started losing my mind because I'm like I need those

[00:06:52] you know which I'm sure if that hadn't happened I would have told her what had

[00:06:58] just happened to me but because the glasses were broken I kind of like panicked

[00:07:06] and freaked out and I ran all the way home to my mom to tell my mom about it

[00:07:12] and my mom's like well we have an appointment coming up within the next

[00:07:16] couple of weeks so I'm not gonna get you a new pair just in case your

[00:07:21] subscription changes because as you're developing as somebody who wears glasses

[00:07:26] I'm sure you know like when you're young and you're developing sometimes your eyes

[00:07:31] change and you need either a thicker or sometimes you get a lesser of a

[00:07:36] subscription I mean my daughter has had glasses her whole life too and every

[00:07:42] once in a while we got to up it or some or it'll stay the same or something

[00:07:46] like that so I had to wait for that we go to the doctors my eyes get checked and he's

[00:07:57] sitting there reviewing like the paperwork reviewing the testing and stuff

[00:08:01] and he just kind of like turns around and he goes you have 20 20 vision dude and

[00:08:06] I'm like what he's like he's like yeah your eyes your eyes are a lot better

[00:08:12] I would say maybe just get some glasses like a light prescription for you know when

[00:08:17] you watch TV and when you read and stuff like that my mom's like why he doesn't

[00:08:21] need glasses and he's like no he's like he's like I would recommend him wear

[00:08:25] some glasses for reading and writing and you know watching TV or whatever my mom's

[00:08:31] just like nope we're not getting I'm if I don't have to spend money on

[00:08:33] glasses I'm not getting that so I have never wore glasses ever since and I

[00:08:38] will say for you know your listeners and stuff like that now this isn't a memory

[00:08:43] that I remember organically I had I did a regression and that the mushroom

[00:08:49] people I came out of it now my sister and I playing and going out into the

[00:08:55] woods I remember organically the doctors visit where I don't have to wear

[00:09:00] glasses anymore I remembered organically like I remember everything

[00:09:03] around it it was just this actual mushroom people that I didn't remember and

[00:09:10] there's you know there's childhood trauma and stuff involving my mother and all

[00:09:15] this stuff so that's why that part of my life was focused on for the

[00:09:20] regression and that came out of it it feels real but is it I can I might

[00:09:29] not be so but it's interesting nonetheless I mean it's what I think

[00:09:36] because I mean obviously I'm sure you will admit that that does sound very

[00:09:40] wild and crazy yes yeah I didn't even want to tell anybody when I when I was

[00:09:46] like man that's not fucking real I'm making that up in my head you know and

[00:09:51] when I once I started telling like I mainly started telling people once I

[00:09:55] started the podcast yeah and you know some people had some interesting views

[00:10:02] on it like because of the relationship between my mother and I like so Eric

[00:10:10] from uncut the uncomfortable podcast he's like well maybe you were too scared to

[00:10:15] tell your mother that your glasses broke so in your head you made up this story

[00:10:20] about these mushroom people breaking your glasses so that you know you didn't get

[00:10:26] like any repercussions from your mom which is a good like in a 10 year old's brain

[00:10:30] maybe I don't remember it that way but you know there's also a lot of things

[00:10:35] that I don't remember so sometimes I don't even remember what I had for

[00:10:40] breakfast the same day so you know it's it's plausible being scared you

[00:10:48] know as a as a child of your own parent and can have that effect on you so

[00:10:56] it's like yeah I mean that does make perfect sense and like I mean that is a

[00:10:59] very plausible reasoning for it but then then like how do you explain your eyes

[00:11:06] I suddenly have in 2020 vision yeah that's the weird part isn't it that is

[00:11:11] the weird fucking part yeah because and my sister remembers she doesn't really

[00:11:15] remember the incident she remembers like going out into the woods and pretending to

[00:11:20] hunt monsters and stuff and she remembers you know she reminds she's like a

[00:11:24] few kids a few occasions you know I remember asking you if you were all

[00:11:28] right in the woods and I'm just like well is there more times that I fucking

[00:11:32] seen something fucking weird or whatever and she remembers stepping on my

[00:11:37] glasses but she also she's like well I broke your glasses I broke Chris's

[00:11:41] glasses which is my older brother she's I broke my Ryan's glasses so

[00:11:45] both my brothers wear glasses only me and my sister don't wear glasses so my

[00:11:51] older brother and my youngest brother both wear glasses and then I have a half

[00:11:57] sister that also wears glasses so it's it's weird in that sense to be the

[00:12:07] to one of the only siblings that don't wear glasses on a regular basis

[00:12:18] and I forget where I was going with that with that saying that but it's oh yeah my

[00:12:28] sister my sister remembering yeah my sister remembers a lot around that and and

[00:12:34] that she's just like you know I just remember one day you didn't wear glasses

[00:12:37] anymore and then you didn't wear glasses ever since she's like I didn't and she was

[00:12:41] there the thing is that she was present in the doctor's office when I went so it

[00:12:47] was me her and my little brother that were in the doctor's office when my

[00:12:51] doctor told me I didn't need glasses anymore but to her like she says all

[00:12:57] the time you know things like that are gonna be that have more of an impact

[00:13:03] on my life I'm gonna remember more than she would so like things that

[00:13:07] impacted her that I was present for I don't remember because they didn't impact

[00:13:11] me the same way that they impacted her yeah so which is a good point well yeah

[00:13:17] true true yeah I can't remember if you said is your sister older or younger than

[00:13:21] you she's younger by a year and a half yeah so I think usually when when you're

[00:13:28] older obviously your memories are a lot better anyway so I mean like you say

[00:13:31] if she was older she probably would have a stronger memory of it yes that's

[00:13:35] true yeah but that's just crazy because I mean it's like you say I mean obviously

[00:13:39] like you say a lot of your family wear glasses and like you wear glasses because

[00:13:44] you need them like they're not they're not like a medicine you know they don't

[00:13:48] you wear glasses for six months and then you never need them again

[00:13:50] you wear glasses you're wearing glasses all the time yeah exactly exactly so

[00:13:56] when I got them in at eight years old so I only was wearing them for two

[00:13:59] years but I was wearing them every day yeah so I have a weird one with my

[00:14:06] glasses because well I had glasses I think I was seven when I first got mine

[00:14:12] and then then when I got to about 14 I didn't wear them anymore

[00:14:16] but that was just purely because I didn't want to which is a stupid idea

[00:14:20] and now so now the reason I need them now is come completely different reasons

[00:14:25] so I mean whether that's just because I didn't wear them in the eyes I just

[00:14:27] got that much worse but like the rig to my original glasses I used to have they

[00:14:32] were horrible because basically I have there it's called an

[00:14:36] astagmus I don't ever be able to see under a card but if I if I just look at

[00:14:40] the camera like my eyes might start shaking

[00:14:43] oh this is probably terrible for listeners like but yeah

[00:14:46] I could just sort of like wobble yeah so my old glasses I used to have one

[00:14:51] one side of the lens was like I don't like an inch thick and then the other

[00:14:56] then the other side was like paper thin the base of the whole point was to like

[00:14:59] hold my eyes straight and they used to they used to feel horrible when you

[00:15:03] first put them on I went to wake up on a morning I'd just be like

[00:15:06] be walking around the house with my eyes shut just because it used to like

[00:15:09] I could literally feel my eyes being pulled straight it was horrible

[00:15:12] but then when they move I can't feel it it's really weird

[00:15:17] that is weird that is weird horrible thing

[00:15:20] like that's kind of kind of sort of how the reason why my my daughter got glasses

[00:15:28] was because one of her eyes would just kind of like travel on its own

[00:15:32] and we noticed it really early like she could do like these weird things with

[00:15:36] her eyes and and we used to it was funny but

[00:15:39] as she's doing it there's one time where we're sitting there at a

[00:15:42] restaurant she's doing it to be funny to make us laugh

[00:15:45] and I'm I kind of like I looked at my ex-wife and I was like she might need glasses

[00:15:50] um and we're like and she's like oh yeah you're probably right and then lo and

[00:15:55] behold she did um but yes it's funny did have you ever do you ever get ads when

[00:16:01] you watch videos too this has nothing to do with like weirdness but it's just

[00:16:05] the the the the traveling eye but when you watch like videos and

[00:16:11] TikTok and in reels and stuff you get uh like ads right sometimes yeah

[00:16:17] yep there's a new dating app called Healy or Highly or something like that

[00:16:23] no they'll say that one no all right so this woman walks up to this door and she

[00:16:28] knocks on it and it says I've I've met five girls just this week on Highly

[00:16:35] or whatever something like that so basically it's just like a hook hook-up thing

[00:16:39] which is fucking stupid but um and the girl turns around and she's wearing glasses

[00:16:47] and she smiles at the camera and then she takes her glasses off to kind of like

[00:16:50] be sexy and her eyes starts to fucking wander as she's like winking and like

[00:16:56] kissing at the camera I was just like holy shit so I just you know I bring it

[00:17:00] up just because of the the eye thing because it fucking struck me funny

[00:17:04] and I was like oh wow that's that that makes that video even more funny

[00:17:10] yeah that would be quite funny I'll have to say that

[00:17:14] yeah it's a little it's a little short brunette girl with uh with uh uh she's wearing black leggings

[00:17:21] and a gray sweater I see it all the time and I don't know why because I'm not like I'm not

[00:17:26] I'm not on any freaking dating apps or anything so that's kind of weird to me

[00:17:33] but it's a strange one

[00:17:38] I'm trying to picture my head what these mushroom people look like because

[00:17:42] you'll probably notice when you were telling that story I'm like I'm like smiling to myself

[00:17:47] because I can see it in my head and it's just like but to me it looks hilarious and

[00:17:52] yeah they're just I they were literally regular like mushrooms that you find outside the

[00:17:58] little gray ones and they're just like three inches tall just and they didn't really like it kind of like

[00:18:09] let me see you know I don't have anything but like almost like you put your feet in a burlap sack

[00:18:15] and then you try and walk that's kind of like what they're walking looked like and then they just

[00:18:20] had the like these little stubs coming out of their sides other than that that's the only like

[00:18:25] people aspect that they had to them was that they had moving parts

[00:18:29] you know there was I couldn't I didn't see any eyes or anything like that or a mouth or any kind of

[00:18:36] thing that could you could call a face so they literally just looked like a bunch of little

[00:18:43] mushrooms kind of like almost like they're gravitating through the ground like what I mean

[00:18:48] we know through science and stuff like this that you know vegetation like trees mushrooms

[00:18:56] they communicate through their roots to the other trees to the other mushrooms and stuff like that

[00:19:02] and they did find a huge ass mushroom underwater off the coast of Japan I believe

[00:19:09] and they started drilling through it for oil and then it decided to break a piece of

[00:19:14] itself off and create a tsunami which was pretty fun okay always fun yeah so my mushrooms have a mind

[00:19:23] of their own like they can communicate with us in a way like but also like the edible mushrooms

[00:19:32] they're super like they're really good for your brain for cognitive function

[00:19:38] um so does that contribute to eyesight maybe maybe that's why I saw them but I will say this

[00:19:48] that this interesting thing so I had this guy on the podcast I met him at a couple of different

[00:19:54] conventions he's an artist and the day that I the first time I ever talked to him was in

[00:20:01] this past April in North Carolina at a convention and he came over and he's friends with um or he

[00:20:13] either he knows them really well or he's friends with him one or the other

[00:20:16] with my buddy Orin and my buddy Orin brings him over to I'm like you have you

[00:20:24] you ever see anything weird any cryptids any ghosts or anything like that just you know

[00:20:29] just trying to spark up a conversation with this guy and he's like you know oddly enough you know I

[00:20:35] had this weird um mushroom people story and I was like what so I stop and I stare at him and I can hear

[00:20:44] like the people like my friends Jenny and Orin kind of like like what the hell because they

[00:20:49] know my mushroom people story and he goes yeah this he's like I was at this like psychic fair

[00:20:54] or something like that and this woman came up to me and said um she said something like what the

[00:21:03] hell did he say how did he say it he said she said um everything's gonna be all right the mushroom

[00:21:14] people told me they gave me the vision and I know that you're gonna be okay and he's like um all

[00:21:20] right and like as she's like as he's telling the story I'm just like I look at Jenny and Orin and

[00:21:28] I'm like what like they gave her the sight to know that like I don't know it was just it's really

[00:21:38] weird I'm pretty sure that's how he said it um he was episode 140 something I think 140

[00:21:50] shit that's gonna take me a minute because I can't remember I'm pretty sure that's how

[00:21:56] how he said it but if anybody listening wants to check that particular episode out to find out

[00:22:04] for sure word for word of what he what he said it's uh yeah episode 144 if my sister says hi don't

[00:22:13] be scared which is a fucking hilarious story of his where he's like uh he's like I slept over a

[00:22:21] friend's house when I was like 12 and like we're getting ready for bed and I'm laying on the floor

[00:22:26] of where in this living room watching tv and stuff and I'm you know making my bed on the floor

[00:22:33] and I'm getting ready to lay down and I'm covering myself up and he's on the couch and he goes hey

[00:22:41] if my sister comes in and she says hi don't be scared he's like okay he goes because my sister

[00:22:47] passed away like five years ago and she's like what the fuck so the kid was saying was telling him

[00:22:56] that his sister visits every once in a while essentially yeah I've been going home I'm out

[00:23:04] yep yep yep I was like holy cow have you ever um like good enough to research into it then have

[00:23:15] you ever looked up to see if people have any similar stories to yours I have and I have

[00:23:21] got nothing got nothing a big old goose egg um you know people talk about mushrooms all the time

[00:23:30] for like their beneficial properties but other than that like I mean there's people telling stories

[00:23:37] about being like the psilocybin mushrooms like the trippy ones there's some funky stories after

[00:23:43] they take those but as far as um a similar story to mine there hasn't been at least not that I can

[00:23:52] find um I was on the confessionals last year or so um talking to Tony Merkel and he would say

[00:24:03] he was saying what he could find was dungeon of mushroom people in dungeons and dragons

[00:24:10] and I've never played mushrooms and I'm mushrooms I've never played dungeons and dragons you know

[00:24:16] um I just I don't know it doesn't seem like the storylines of dungeons and dragons seems interesting

[00:24:23] but actually playing it I don't know if it would be as interesting I've always wanted to try but

[00:24:29] anyway so that's the only thing that he could uh he could find as in mushroom people other than

[00:24:39] like you know toad from mario or um you know technically I guess like the uh the last of us

[00:24:49] this game and show that people are basically they have spores so they're they have fungus

[00:24:56] growing out of their heads and shit like that like that's considered mushroom people I guess at

[00:25:00] this point right but it was nothing like any of that so I'm just thinking that because obviously

[00:25:07] like this is the story that obviously your friend told you about obviously that woman saying that the

[00:25:12] mushroom people told you it's sort of it's a similar sort of thing because it's like you know it's like a

[00:25:18] positive thing like obviously they told you oh you don't need these and they obviously said to him

[00:25:23] oh everything is going to be okay it's almost as if the like you know I mean to me like go

[00:25:29] go here in m2 stories now if I see a mushroom person like I'm going to be happy because

[00:25:34] I'm making me a good message yeah yeah yeah yeah so yeah my positive my my experience is positive from

[00:25:43] what it sounds like from her she was very positive and optimistic um so I got nothing but like um

[00:25:52] good vibes from um the aspect of these of these mushroom people especially if they're healing me

[00:26:01] yeah you know which I don't know what the reason would be um why they would want to and why they would

[00:26:07] pick me out of all people um which kind of sometimes when I get into this thinking and I think too hard

[00:26:16] about it I'm just like this didn't happen this didn't actually happen because why would they

[00:26:20] why would they allow me allow my eyes to fix while there's probably way more important people

[00:26:29] who could use the who could benefit from their eyesight being fixed you know if you wonder

[00:26:36] yeah yeah so I'm just like I don't know but as of right now it feels real

[00:26:44] so I'm going with it it's real fair enough fair enough um have you got any other weird

[00:26:51] experiences than you can share all right yeah I have a lot I have a lot um so

[00:27:01] I'll tell you this one because this one's kind of scary um it was 2016 I think it was October ish

[00:27:10] area um I just split up from my ex-wife uh so she had the kids at the at on this particular day

[00:27:22] um I lived out in the middle of the woods in this in this cabin and had lived out there for about

[00:27:32] three years to this point and I had two dogs at the time so every night or most most nights

[00:27:41] stuff would come into my into my yard my dogs my dogs bark for like a minute or two

[00:27:47] and then they'd be like all right whatever so this particular night um

[00:27:55] I woke up to my dogs just going crazy they're trying that they're scratching underneath

[00:28:00] they're scratching the wall underneath the window um just like they want to get outside and I'm

[00:28:06] just like what the hell is happening and I'm like shut up and I I had told them to shut

[00:28:11] up a few times which usually the first time kind of worked and they would get back up on the

[00:28:16] bed and go to sleep and um I had said shut up a couple times or enough or no and stuff like that

[00:28:25] and I threw my pillow at them and they're still going crazy so I get up and I look out the

[00:28:29] window and I see there's like a a tree line next to my house and there's a rock wall in

[00:28:35] between it um wasn't like a masonry rock wall is just a bunch of freaking rocks thrown on

[00:28:42] top of each other to make or make a wall um and on the other side of the tree line is this

[00:28:48] is a field that uh this farm used for haying so you couldn't see the farm but you could see the

[00:28:55] field and there was coyotes running back and forth in the moonlight and like it wasn't

[00:29:01] like a full moon so it wasn't super bright but it was enough light to that I could tell what

[00:29:06] they were on the other side of the of the woods and there was still like there's still

[00:29:10] foliage in the trees kind of sort of so like half and half like a bunch of leaves had already fallen

[00:29:16] and stuff so I could kind of see through the the gaps of the trees to tell that they were

[00:29:24] definitely coyotes and I'm watching them like what the fuck are they doing and then as I'm

[00:29:29] sitting there watching my dogs are still barking and it's annoying the hell out of me and then

[00:29:35] I see this little coyote which I assume is a female uh come limping down my driveway my

[00:29:41] driveway is pretty long and she stayed right on and it kind of like winds like this and she

[00:29:46] stayed on my driveway followed it and she's limping with her her front paws up it's like oh

[00:29:54] shit this thing's hurt so I leave my bedroom and I go to my front door and I flip on the switch

[00:30:00] for the outside light and she kind of like she gets I don't know she gets close to the house but

[00:30:06] not too close and she sits down and she keeps her paw up like this and I'm watching her and I'm just

[00:30:14] like ah and I look out when I see the pack running around so there's like four or five other ones

[00:30:21] which coyotes don't necessarily I guess they travel in packs but they don't hunt in packs

[00:30:28] or something like that so I was just like they're not hunting so I don't know it could be I mean

[00:30:36] that I learned new shit about coyotes all the time so but at this moment in time during the

[00:30:44] during it happening I didn't know shit about about them so I'm looking now at them thinking that

[00:30:50] they might see me out and they would all come attack me you know which

[00:30:55] now that I know better they wouldn't have but or they would have they could have I don't know either way

[00:31:04] so I'm sitting there I'm like oh my dogs are freaking scratching at the door now because I'm

[00:31:09] standing at the door because they think that I'm about to let them out to go fucking eat these

[00:31:13] because they I think they wanted to eat they wanted to fight my the coyotes and

[00:31:20] um all right so I grabbed the what's that what dogs were yours uh mine were was a Staffordshire

[00:31:30] bull terrier so a pit bull and I had a Yorkie fair up more extreme to the river then yeah I had I

[00:31:39] had a little fluffy dog which he was more of the mouthpiece my I think my pit bull was just

[00:31:43] kind of like all right this guy's going crazy I should go crazy too so so I grabbed the doorknob

[00:31:53] and I kind of like turn it and I'm about to open it and I'm just like you know I should look

[00:32:00] to see where the coyotes are one more time before I go outside and I look over and there's red eyes

[00:32:07] in the tree line and like so along the rock wall there's this big ass boulder

[00:32:15] that stands about six feet it ish now 510 and standing next to this rock wall this particular

[00:32:24] boulder along the rock wall it was a little bit taller than me so my kids used to play on it

[00:32:31] and stuff like that and I'd have to go out and get them that's the only reason why

[00:32:35] I came close enough to this boulder to tell how tall it was so this actual boulder is the eyes

[00:32:42] were behind it so it's like peering over it and I couldn't tell what the fuck it was at the time

[00:32:51] I'm like that's a fucking demon I need to get out like the minute I saw those eyes I was overcome

[00:32:57] with this this sense of dread like I'm gonna die this thing's gonna kill me so I I let go of the

[00:33:03] handle and I lock the door and I shut the light off and as soon as I shut the light off that coyote

[00:33:09] perks up turns around and runs down my driveway to go back to the pack like nothing was wrong with it

[00:33:16] like it was used its leg and everything it wasn't limping anymore and I'm like what the fuck so

[00:33:21] then I run um to my to get my gun I throw the magazine in and I pull the bolt action put

[00:33:30] that first round into the into the barrel so if I needed to use it all had to do is pull the trigger

[00:33:37] sat down on my couch both of my dogs sat down they were no longer barking because I assume

[00:33:43] that they sensed my fear and um maybe they also felt fear themselves so they both one

[00:33:51] on each side of me on the couch sat there and we sat there for the rest of the night

[00:33:55] and I stared at the closest window thinking that whatever that thing was was gonna come through

[00:34:03] my window so um the more I looked into things similar stories um which actually came out of

[00:34:15] podcasts a lot of podcasts so 2020 when you know the thing that fucking won't go away

[00:34:22] people keep talking about now um during that you know the radio just was like shit I mean the radio

[00:34:33] is always has always been shit I just didn't realize it until then um I started listening to podcasts

[00:34:41] and I got into well first it was Joe Rogan then I was listening to conspiracy stuff and then I

[00:34:49] got into the paranormal stuff and I kept hearing these cryptid stories about a dog man and the more

[00:34:59] I thought about it the more it sounded like a dog man encounter now was dog man working with

[00:35:08] the coyotes or did dog man come in hunting the coyotes and then no realized that you know these

[00:35:15] coyotes were trying to draw me out like I think the coyotes were trying to get my dogs out not me

[00:35:21] personally I think they were trying to they knew my dogs were in there and they were trying to get

[00:35:26] my dogs to come out and this dog this creature whatever I assume is a dog man just kind of like

[00:35:35] came into grat to get the hunting the coyotes and was like well here's an opportunity that

[00:35:42] they're gonna draw this guy and his dogs out I'm gonna have you know 10 times more food

[00:35:48] and then I didn't come out so whether it ended up attacking the coyotes I didn't see the coyotes

[00:35:55] for a long time and the next time I saw coyotes they could have been completely different coyotes

[00:36:00] I would never know you know so this dog man could have had eight all this entire pack that night

[00:36:06] yeah I mean yeah well I suppose that is plausible because I mean I mean I'm no expert but I'm pretty

[00:36:13] sure like wild dogs and like wolves and stuff they're very territorial you know they don't really

[00:36:18] they don't travel great distances yeah yeah and I was um I had Aaron Deese from small town monsters

[00:36:28] on the show he's an author as well he researches the dog man topic extensively and I told him the story

[00:36:39] and the part where I was the town that I was living in has mines all over the place I guess

[00:36:46] and there was a tribe that was displaced from the area and then there's a large there's a national

[00:36:59] park also in the area which national park mines and people displacement coincide with a lot of

[00:37:07] these dogmen areas so I guess that just to him that gave my story a little more

[00:37:16] like credibility just based on that I didn't I I never knew there was that as many he I think

[00:37:23] he said there was like 33 mines in that area I had no idea there were even mines to begin with

[00:37:29] but I knew of like the national park in the area and I knew that of the tribe being displaced

[00:37:35] from the area so very very interesting how often did you see the coyotes before that

[00:37:43] did you see them often before that or yeah I saw them pretty often at least like once every other week

[00:37:49] they would be either in my yard or in that field yeah I'm just thinking there you're saying that

[00:37:55] you feel that they were trying to get your dogs out but the fact that like

[00:38:00] it almost seems like like you said that one that came up your driveway

[00:38:02] it you know almost like limping yeah obviously the way it ran off as if there's nothing wrong

[00:38:07] with it that almost as if the like that just seems too smart yeah so maybe them and this creature

[00:38:15] dogman whatever it was were working together maybe they were like you know little minions for it or

[00:38:20] something maybe I mean anything's possible at this point yeah and I'll probably I'm actually

[00:38:31] not probably I most definitely will never have the answer

[00:38:36] for for that night in any kind of aspect but I have thought about going back out in those woods

[00:38:44] a few times but especially at night to see if I can find any of them or anything but you know

[00:38:54] um if if dogman is a real thing um the possibility of me encountering it in living is

[00:39:07] um it's kind of like a 50-50 thing so there's a good there's a pretty big possible chance if I

[00:39:14] encounter it out in the woods and without any kind of like way to get away from it even if

[00:39:22] I have weapons there's a good chance that you know I won't come out of the woods so I don't know if I

[00:39:28] ever want to do that um a good guest I don't know if you might you might have already had him on before

[00:39:34] done if you've heard of their Harley Owens no I've never heard of him yeah well he's been an

[00:39:41] hours show he'd be a good guest for you to all about dogman okay he's had two experiences

[00:39:46] of them are thinking about four or five with big foot so I say well yeah he's a good guest

[00:39:52] he's got a lot of a lot of information and some really interesting stories and theories on them both

[00:39:59] okay all right Harley Owens yeah so his instagram's big foot reports and data or data whichever one you

[00:40:07] say although I'll send you over he I send you over a link to his profile and drop him a message

[00:40:13] okay he's uh he's got some really good stories and you've got like you've got some good pictures

[00:40:17] you've got audio of things and stuff is very very interesting hmm that's cool that's cool yeah um

[00:40:28] oh I wanted to ask you a question now because you mentioned guns and obviously you asked me about

[00:40:32] obviously the riots and stuff that had been going on over here when I was on your show like

[00:40:38] obviously you have guns so you are sort of like pro-guns and I mean if you don't want to go into

[00:40:42] this is fine but obviously as well you said you have kids and stuff and obviously over here we

[00:40:46] only hear like the bad things with guns in America yeah like does obviously like so yeah I

[00:40:54] don't really know how I'm gonna word this but like basically the guns scare you even though you have

[00:40:59] guns and do you worry about the stuff because obviously we hear all we hear about is school

[00:41:05] shootings and stuff here yeah I mean obviously is that like on your mind a lot no I mean it is

[00:41:13] it is and it isn't yeah um I mean I do worry about it from time to time um

[00:41:23] you know we had a scare at my kids school where some kids called in to the media outlets they

[00:41:34] actually they did it to a bunch of schools in the area or it might not have even been kids

[00:41:39] I don't know but they said that they there was a school shooter on the on the property

[00:41:45] and they did it to like in all they did it to 20 schools and there was no shooter at all so they

[00:41:52] scared 20 school different schools and through New Hampshire and Maine um just by calling the

[00:42:03] fucking local media and being like they're a school shooter so the media contacted police and

[00:42:09] and stuff like that and it was some of some of the schools reacted in like the dumbest way possible

[00:42:19] but um but yeah it's it's it's um there's shootings all over the place like there's

[00:42:26] less school shootings than um than the than you would think is happening like the way the media

[00:42:34] portrays it it sounds like it's happening every day um but I don't know uh there's there there's

[00:42:46] always gonna be crazy you know what I mean like they're they're gonna find someone just like

[00:42:51] over over there uh you know stabbings and and stuff like that are crazy and Canada too there's

[00:42:58] mass stabbings at malls all the time which is which is wild um but I will say a lot of like

[00:43:07] a lot of shooters get put down by somebody else having a gun by another civilian having a gun

[00:43:14] um and I'm I'm I'm pro I'm pro second amendment here in the United States I am I will say

[00:43:25] a lot of people may not like me for it but that's okay that's it's me I'm being real I am

[00:43:30] am of the conservative side um so I believe in the first second I believe in the amendments

[00:43:38] the amendments are what make um to me America a great place it a good place to be um which

[00:43:49] I think is the one of the only reasons why a lot of um other countries like I guess you know any kind

[00:43:59] of like um enemy countries coming over here because they don't know who has a gun and who

[00:44:04] doesn't where they can go to other countries to invade um because they they know their civilians

[00:44:12] aren't aren't weaponized or whatever what's that here I mean even our police aren't even armed over

[00:44:18] what oh police aren't even armed really yeah well they have like you know the

[00:44:24] night steak and pepper spray tasers that's about it really well now I guess we have armed police

[00:44:33] when they're necessary but like you know just your everyday police unpatrolled yeah and well I

[00:44:39] that would save um unnecessary shooting because like another thing with like with the gun aspect

[00:44:48] is the art with our cops having guns too is that there's an unnecessary shooting because they're

[00:44:54] scared that I'm I'm gonna I'll be honest like it's they get scared too to their human they deal

[00:45:00] with shit every day they get scared and they draw their gun sometimes they've mistakenly

[00:45:05] grabbed their gun instead of their taser thinking they're gonna tase somebody and they shoot them

[00:45:09] instead there's a hundred stories like that so like yes guns can be scary um obviously do I think

[00:45:19] that um I don't know it's um it's hard to say there's a do I don't think that not having them

[00:45:32] is a good thing but I think having them isn't a good thing either like it's a it's a weird

[00:45:37] it's a weird thing stand on you know what I mean um they're good they're good and they're bad

[00:45:44] you know when they're in bad people say like I will say this too like I'm sure you know you have

[00:45:51] criminals over there that find guns every once in a while yeah so like whatever laws you have

[00:45:57] aren't gonna protect you completely from from somebody who doesn't follow the law

[00:46:04] you get a hold of a gun you know um but yeah the I just I don't understand the school shooting

[00:46:12] aspect because a lot is because it turns from kids shooting up schools because they were upset with

[00:46:17] their peers they were being bullied and shit and then it went from that to just random people

[00:46:21] showing up at schools shooting which doesn't make any sense to me which which is the false

[00:46:27] flag thing that I get into with conspiracies and shit like I think it's done on purpose

[00:46:34] um to to scare the masses you know what I mean like the one one of the recent big ones where

[00:46:43] that uh kid drove they he was on the or she whatever the fuck it was was on the FBI

[00:46:49] watch list and the police were literally following this person in a high speed chase watched them go

[00:46:58] into a school and start shooting up the school without doing anything so like I don't understand

[00:47:06] this that's the part that I don't understand is why are you going to a school to shoot people

[00:47:12] that have nothing to do with you and shooting kids like that's the part that I don't understand

[00:47:19] yeah that's that's that's maybe maybe I'm not meant to understand that you know

[00:47:24] maybe because people are fucking crazy again like we can't tell what people are gonna do so

[00:47:32] more people die from um par accidents than they do guns so should we ban gun uh cars I don't know

[00:47:40] true true it's like I'm sure there's a brilliant fact obviously people obviously people have

[00:47:46] terrified of sharks and I'm pretty sure like more people die per year from vending machines

[00:47:51] than shacks do you want to know yeah do you want to know a interesting uh um statistic so

[00:48:04] more people die from having a fall than they die from guns so people tripping and falling

[00:48:13] on something or out of something like out of a tree or out of off a building or something

[00:48:20] like there's more deaths from people falling than there are from being shot in America that's weird

[00:48:26] that doesn't surprise me though but it's like that's the thing or you know that's not newsworthy

[00:48:32] that's true that's true they um the media is is the sickest thing of all um this

[00:48:42] woman who attacked a three-year-old with a knife stabbed him to death um that barely got any

[00:48:49] media and I I mean I'll be honest like I think when when the perpetrator is not white

[00:49:00] is when they don't want to like make a big deal out of it but if the perpetrator if the bad guy

[00:49:08] is a white person it's all over the place you know which I will say there's bad people in every

[00:49:15] every group of anything there's bad people yeah there's always bad you can't you can't

[00:49:23] you can't sit here and say a certain group of people are bad people because of a couple people

[00:49:31] that happen to be within that group um it's just like saying all liberals are bad or all

[00:49:38] conservatives are bad just because of some freaking crazy people that happen to have ties to those

[00:49:44] those parties um or I mean Nazis are bad we could say that we could all agree on that

[00:49:55] yeah that's an unpopular opinion that's that's probably the only group of people that you can say

[00:50:00] those aren't good people um oh yeah I mean you're right it doesn't matter you know

[00:50:08] doesn't matter what size shape color wherever anyone's from you know people can still be dicks

[00:50:15] yeah yeah yeah yeah it's uh it's it's interesting how how people think these days

[00:50:22] it is that's a lot of it is a lot of this is politically driven which drives me crazy

[00:50:32] I've had people unfriend me just because you know I've never really just come out and said that

[00:50:38] I was conservative until recently and you know I've been unfriended I've been people stop

[00:50:43] talking to me and stuff like that because of it and I'm just like you know we can have difference

[00:50:47] in opinions and still be friends like yeah I just I don't know it's it's a wild time here

[00:50:55] in America specifically um obviously I'm not in any other country so I don't really know what

[00:51:01] exactly what's going on anywhere else but we we just got a whole new government here so

[00:51:06] and some people really like it some people hate it oh that's what I thought it's always

[00:51:11] going to be this is why I don't do politics because it doesn't matter what group you vote for

[00:51:17] you're going to agree with certain things you're going to disagree with certain things

[00:51:20] doesn't matter which one you vote for even even if the one that you vote for you are going to

[00:51:24] disagree with some of their policies right right and that's that's another thing is that people

[00:51:30] over here like they're like vote blue no matter who so they're like back in Harris like crazy

[00:51:36] even though she had a negative 8% rating as president four years ago um she actually dropped

[00:51:43] out because she was the least favorited and she used to sit there in in debates and call Joe Biden

[00:51:49] a racist and then work with him like I don't understand that first of all second of all is

[00:51:57] you got to vote policy like not all of these people just because they're in the same party

[00:52:02] have the same policies some things are different um and I always look at the policy I don't vote

[00:52:10] Republican because I'm conservative conservative all the time like I in 2008 I voted for Obama

[00:52:16] because I thought I believed in Obama's policies lo and behold that was fucking terrible for us

[00:52:21] in my opinion some people might have thought it was great I thought it was terrible I was like

[00:52:30] when he was going for a second term there was it was him or Mitt Romney who was Republican and I

[00:52:36] hated Mitt Romney so I didn't vote I was like I can't vote for either one of these guys

[00:52:45] so it's uh it's interesting battlegrounds I guess um but just to go into the media thing

[00:52:54] again is in June Trump was saying let's uh get rid of taxes on for servers so like on tips for servers

[00:53:03] so let's let's get rid of that and then the media is like oh he wants he wants uh no no taxes on

[00:53:10] tips that's just gonna create more money for the rich and and blah blah blah what a what an

[00:53:16] idiot what a dumb person like that's you know basically demonized him saying that and then

[00:53:23] last week Kamala Harris says the same thing and they're like oh yeah she wants to give more money

[00:53:28] to the regular people good on her and I'm just like literally the same sentence like literally word

[00:53:34] for word she said the same exact thing Trump said and she gets praised for it and he get

[00:53:39] demonized for it and I'm just like this is why I don't like the media this is exactly why I

[00:53:44] like the media so the media I think is is so when Obama took took office I can't remember the exact

[00:53:54] bill that is that it's called um but I think Ronald Reagan put it started with Ronald Reagan

[00:54:02] Ronald Reagan was trying to put it through but I don't think he could so and then when Obama

[00:54:07] took office he did so our our media in America used to be allowed to lie to all of you guys

[00:54:16] to all the other countries and then when Obama took office it became that they could now lie

[00:54:23] to the American public and so they do they ran with it and it's it's hilarious to watch

[00:54:33] um I don't know I feel like we're living in in clown world um you know and people cannot take

[00:54:40] anything that I'm saying about about the media or politics seriously just because I've had some

[00:54:46] fucking crazy ass fucking experiences with my sure people and what I think is a dog man so

[00:54:51] they could be like this guy's just fucking crazy um that's fine I don't mind being labeled

[00:54:57] crazy I'm completely okay with it but that's just this is all just my thought process I think there's

[00:55:03] a bigger game at play and I think the whole world is involved I don't think um uh a one world

[00:55:11] government is a good thing I don't think the UN technically is a good thing I don't think the

[00:55:17] the WHO are good people either um because we get we get down that line of a one world

[00:55:25] government with the UN and the WHO and all this stuff we're no longer electing people these are

[00:55:31] all selected people these are people that we didn't vote for and we're listening to them you know

[00:55:39] yeah it's a strange one um I just thought there because obviously we're like going back

[00:55:46] to the shootings and stuff and obviously you obviously were both like conspiracies have you

[00:55:58] theorists from over here some really yes some yes some of his theories really they really do

[00:56:04] make you think over other theories you're just like no you are nuts and now but one theory that he

[00:56:11] the he has which I sort of believe in is that like disasters have to be allowed to happen

[00:56:19] yes yes obviously obviously the biggest example being 9-11 yes assassinations and stuff

[00:56:26] yes I believe that 100% I think I think a lot of 9-11 had to do with so the bushes have been

[00:56:36] running shit since the fuck in forever so everybody in politics that has been voted

[00:56:41] in as president has since the bushes have been related to the bushes Obama is a bush

[00:56:48] Bill Clinton is a bush Joe Biden is a bush I haven't seen he actually looks like one as well

[00:56:57] though yeah yeah I haven't seen anything Lincoln Kamala Harris to the bushes but I'm sure if you

[00:57:05] go far back enough there there's something there it's and it's not always like immediate like

[00:57:10] 100% like like next of kin kind of related they're related at some point down the line

[00:57:18] which is which is fucking weird and and in that aspect anyway just to be have some kind of lineage

[00:57:27] that dates back to the bushes is the fucking weirdest thing but 9-11 was a money grab 100%

[00:57:34] like I think a bush senior fucking put it into play and then junior fucking

[00:57:43] well I think senior planned it and then junior put it into play

[00:57:48] and they got they got rid of a whole bunch of CIA documents because CIA technically is not allowed

[00:57:55] to operate on US soil so they got building six that's where the CIA documents that's the only

[00:58:06] building that fell that didn't make any sense we're like why is this building following and

[00:58:12] there's two other buildings with planes in them I will say this too I think it was the 60s

[00:58:20] the empire state building got struck by a fucking plane and didn't fall down

[00:58:24] the top of the building doesn't make any sense for the top of the yeah it doesn't make any sense

[00:58:31] for the top of the building to get hit and then it just falls straight down

[00:58:36] doesn't make any sense that's what I mean like say on the videos with that David Aikwine

[00:58:40] he's talked about 9-11 he says like say building six they say the reason for that collapse was

[00:58:45] in office furnishings fire it's like what the hell's the furniture made of

[00:58:53] yeah upswear down that's the official reasoning apparently yeah there's another building too

[00:59:01] that's nearby with a hole straight through it like and all this everything that's inside of

[00:59:07] that would have been part of the building seems to be blown out so it's almost like so there's

[00:59:13] a hole straight from the top down yeah it's like a bomb fucking went from the inside so that's another

[00:59:21] weird thing about 9-11 and then the um then the pentagon where the build the fucking plane

[00:59:28] supposedly went into the side of it um the gap in it just doesn't fit a plane and I didn't see

[00:59:35] all the pictures I don't see any plane parts exactly but it just happened to strike this

[00:59:40] one bit of footage from from that as well yeah and the plane happened to strike

[00:59:46] right at the part of the pentagon where they were having a meeting about this missing money

[00:59:52] brilliance of dollars too it's not just a small sum of money so it's just things that make you go huh

[00:59:58] yeah obviously I heard that um where the pentagon got hit it was essentially like cleaning covers

[01:00:05] you know there was nothing there is what I is one of the theories that I've heard

[01:00:09] yeah it's just done to make it look you know like it was an attack so they went for like you know

[01:00:16] the I would have worded but it's gonna be less like you know important documents and less important

[01:00:22] people oh no there was important people that died that day in the pentagon right right yeah yeah

[01:00:28] they were they heard yeah it was um it was um like the meeting this there was this meeting about

[01:00:38] missing money it was trillions of dollars so they literally came out a couple days before saying

[01:00:44] the pentagon lost track of one a couple trillion dollars or something like that so they set up

[01:00:53] this meeting this guy I can't fucking at this moment in time I can't remember who set up this

[01:00:58] meeting um but they set up this meeting in the pentagon and then the people that set up the meeting

[01:01:04] weren't even there so everybody that came to that meeting died yeah and the in the in that

[01:01:12] explosion in that crash I would say explosion I think it was I think it was a bomb I don't

[01:01:17] think it was a plane yeah and I think a lot of it no one was a plan yeah I think a lot of it was

[01:01:22] was bombs and it's weird too a lot of the first responders died shortly after to

[01:01:30] not all of them obviously but a good portion of them died from like all of a sudden getting cancer

[01:01:36] or something like that which is also another weird thing very strange one I'm just I'm

[01:01:44] just thinking now we're gonna have to do a full conspiracies episode here

[01:01:50] oh man I love conspiracies it's really it's I don't love them because of like what they do to

[01:01:59] to people because like conspiracies false flags and all this shit like they're really happening

[01:02:06] but they're done on purpose you know um and that's what a that's when I say false flag a lot

[01:02:13] of people make feel like I'm talking about it not being a real thing but it's a very real thing it's

[01:02:20] just done on purpose to distract you you know some people are fooled some people are not

[01:02:29] it's just and the there's just like a the shooting of the supermarket in Buffalo it was a guy from

[01:02:36] the Ukraine it was a kid from the Ukraine he was even wearing Ukraine emblems that day

[01:02:41] and he started shooting uh shooting people there and his target I believe was a security guard who

[01:02:48] had a month prior had invented a car that can run off water instead of gas yes I've heard that one

[01:02:54] before yeah yeah yeah yeah we're definitely gonna have to do a full conspiracies episode here

[01:03:01] because I mean I don't know if you've heard this one but I'm literally gonna tell you the

[01:03:07] baseline to it so then when we come back we can do a proper thing out because it is hilarious

[01:03:11] so a lot of people believe that obviously obviously we have a royal family over here

[01:03:15] yeah too much internet because I have very strong opinions on it which will go I have

[01:03:20] I actually have an episode coming out next this coming on Wednesday actually that

[01:03:26] she talks a little bit about the royal family yeah well some people believe that they are reptilians

[01:03:33] yeah after that I just love that theory me I don't believe that one but yeah

[01:03:39] I love it well especially when we had the queen like you know a 90-odd old woman who's secretly ill-lizard

[01:03:49] brilliant it would be fucking wild if it's true but obviously like

[01:03:57] crazy to think about you know what I mean like well then the problem is I go my brain

[01:04:02] straight away goes to Spiderman obviously yeah the crocodile guy yeah obviously he said he

[01:04:10] had ills and stuff he said I was like you know the white coat on and stuff so that I'm imagining

[01:04:13] like the queen with a giant lizard with a crown on yeah well they do they they travel with their

[01:04:20] own blood supply which I think is weird oh yeah well that's what I mean they're all they're

[01:04:25] all related it's bizarre except the whole princess Diana yes like they're inbredded or something like

[01:04:32] that I can't forget they're actually if you trace it back enough they're actually German

[01:04:37] really that doesn't surprise me one bit actually you know the doesn't support I I think Germany

[01:04:43] lost the war but I think the Nazis actually won which is why we ended up with 16 000

[01:04:49] and German Nazi fucking or 1600 I would have apologized 1600 Nazi scientists here in America

[01:04:59] living and working like normal people yeah when they're the ones that invented all these torture

[01:05:06] chambers and shit like that to kill fucking people but yeah let's bring them over here

[01:05:10] and work with Walt Disney and shit let's do that and fucking work on rockets let's do that

[01:05:14] that makes sense you know and you guys you guys got some you guys got a fucking huge handful of

[01:05:21] those scientists too yeah yeah um I've got about 20 minutes left have you got any other strange

[01:05:29] experiences we can finish on that um yeah sure uh so let's see I have I have so many weird things

[01:05:45] um I'll just tell you so uh recently um it was probably yeah it was this around this time last year

[01:05:57] um I was laying in bed and I woke up to my name being called so I kind of like open my eyes

[01:06:05] just kind of like I was like sprawled out like a freaking starfish too um I have a king-sized bed so

[01:06:12] every once in a while I completely try and take up the entire thing anyways

[01:06:17] I woke up to my name being called I'm the only person in the house my kids weren't home

[01:06:23] anything it was just me and my dog um and I I see shadow figures all the time ever since I was

[01:06:34] a kid and I see the shadow figure come into my room and it's moving I've never seen them

[01:06:41] actually like moving I've always seen them standing still in the distance

[01:06:46] leaning up against something or crouching or just standing there straight like a fucking weirdo

[01:06:52] but this thing comes into my and through my doorway and it's a very volumptious woman very

[01:06:58] figured like full figured for it was something that I would have been attracted to if I could

[01:07:03] have told could tell you know what more features other than just black shadows uh long flowing hair

[01:07:12] and I'm like and I was like stuck in this paralysis I'm like what the fuck is that

[01:07:17] and I couldn't move so my eyes kind of like move to the side and I'm looking out to the

[01:07:24] side of my face and I could see my phone just out of my the reach of my hand so I start

[01:07:30] wiggling my fingers trying to like hold my hand across my sheet to grab my phone to light up to see

[01:07:36] who this person was and it's uh the reason why I was so scared was because of the way this the

[01:07:46] in the way that it was moving um the best way that I could describe it is like c3po so it's

[01:07:53] like walking into my room like this got a very robotic yes um and it also gets uh um um described

[01:08:05] as like a lot of people are like like silent look the nurses from Silent Hill or whatever you know

[01:08:10] the faceless women yeah so it's uh it was a very eerie movement so like the the the outline of

[01:08:21] it was nice and then it's moving like that and I'm just like oh what the fuck um so I'm trying to reach

[01:08:28] my phone and I'm looking back at it and then I'm looking back at my phone and I'm looking back at it

[01:08:33] and it's getting really it's getting closer and it's getting closer and my heart is freaking

[01:08:38] pounding out of my chest and this thing gets to the edge of my bed and it was it was like it

[01:08:44] was about to climb onto my bed and I just kind of like broke out of the paralysis right there

[01:08:49] grabbed my phone and sat up turned my phone light on and there was nothing there and I was

[01:08:54] fucking sweating and my heart was pounding and I was like what the fuck was that you know I was

[01:09:03] I was scared like I was scared that I was this that there was somebody coming into my room to

[01:09:08] stab me to death you know what I mean like that's like I was I was scared for my life in

[01:09:13] that particular moment um and then I just kind of like sat there tried to collect myself and stuff

[01:09:20] like that and I got up I had to go pee so I'm like sitting there like I don't want to leave my room

[01:09:26] now and I just kind of like talk to the house I'm like you know if you're negative you know

[01:09:33] into the name of Jesus get out of here um for whatever reason as long as you believe

[01:09:39] um in that saying like that name just seems to do something to negative spirits

[01:09:48] whether you're religious or not it just as long as you say it with some conviction you believe

[01:09:55] it in those words that that name just seems to scare the shit out of these things

[01:10:00] just to negative entities anyway yeah and then uh I had to go to the bathroom so bad

[01:10:06] I'm standing there in my doorway and I don't want to step out into the hallway so I just jump out

[01:10:11] really quick and just like karate chop there and I'm just like yeah all right now I can go to the

[01:10:17] bathroom you know I think everybody knows karate chops kill ghosts so naturally

[01:10:24] but yeah so that was that was fucking scary um did you recognize the voice at all

[01:10:32] no I didn't not that I could recall anyways um because I thought that happened to me before where

[01:10:39] I've heard my name being shouted like when I say again when I've been like in the process of waking

[01:10:44] up and then like I'm like oh the hell wants to speak to me now so then like I get up and I

[01:10:48] wonder out and like who wants me and everyone's just like nothing like that was weird yeah it

[01:10:56] it was uh dude I just like I was expecting somebody that I knew to well so there's uh my girlfriend now

[01:11:05] I was seeing her at the time and she had just left not too long ago before I went to bed so

[01:11:14] in that time of my name being called I thought that it was her coming back like she was just like

[01:11:20] I'm just gonna stay here tonight instead of going home um so like in that first very couple that first

[01:11:31] second of uh of waking up I thought I was gonna see her come in and then I just saw this thing

[01:11:38] come in and I was just like what the fuck and at the time I kind of thought maybe this is because

[01:11:46] obviously whatever this was was portrayed itself as a shadow figure because I'm comfortable with shadow

[01:11:54] figures with shadow people like I'm totally when I see them I don't get scared anymore I did as a

[01:12:00] kid but I saw I see them so often they never do anything so I'm just kind of like don't care

[01:12:05] about them um so whatever this was I put it as it was pretending to be a shadow person because

[01:12:13] I knew it was I was comfortable with it but because it couldn't quite nail how it its movement to come

[01:12:21] in caused me to be scared yeah so um a part of me kind of thinks that maybe it was it

[01:12:29] it made itself look sexually attractive I guess in a way even though like again like I can only

[01:12:39] see an outline so um the figure of it was nice and stuff so I associated it with it saying

[01:12:49] that this girl I shouldn't be seeing you know what I mean but I talked to Vicki Joy Anderson

[01:12:56] and she's like you know these people like you have these kind of experiences demons aren't gonna

[01:13:02] fucking try and be nice and tell you that you shouldn't let you to protect you from shit

[01:13:08] like when you're having paralysis that's not a good thing um

[01:13:14] and she's like so they're not gonna try and warn you you're not being warned of anything so um

[01:13:22] so yeah uh I mean uh uh I haven't seen anything like it since so I don't know like I could I could

[01:13:32] attribute it to being like a succubus to where it would want to make me feel like it was trying

[01:13:40] to warn me of another woman coming into my life so that it could still feed off of me kind

[01:13:45] of thing you know because I had been single at this point for a while

[01:13:51] so maybe it maybe it was feeding on me this entire time and I didn't even know about it

[01:13:56] you know what I mean maybe maybe so that's a weird shit yeah yeah that's why I really want to

[01:14:06] speak to someone who's like you know more of a more clued up on the sleep paralysis and

[01:14:11] like say shadow figures and stuff about obviously my experience which I told you about yeah obviously

[01:14:16] the first one obviously I tell it quickly obviously it was like a very hudded figure stood in the bedroom

[01:14:23] door when I was a kid and then ever since then it's well I haven't seen nothing like that it's

[01:14:29] just like a little black massive doors to me left I never feel uneasy it's just the only thing I

[01:14:34] don't like is the fact that I can't move so I don't know like I say I mean I just I'd like

[01:14:39] to know if there's some out more than that I'd say the fact the fact that I never feel

[01:14:42] threatened by it or maybe I'm just evil as well to the court you don't think that I don't think that

[01:14:52] you should have Vicki Joy Anderson on she's she's a she's an author a public speaker

[01:14:59] she talks a lot about paralysis sleep paralysis and shadow people and stuff like that so yeah

[01:15:06] I'll definitely check that out yeah you could probably pick her brain on on some things and

[01:15:12] get clued on some things she's very um spiritual warfare yeah you know

[01:15:21] I definitely have to check that one out then yeah right then so that is all the time we have

[01:15:26] thought of it so Kevin do you just want to remind people where they can find you

[01:15:31] yeah man so you can find the show where the weird ones are on apple podcast

[01:15:36] Spotify i heart radio amazon music as well as youtube you can find me on socials on instagram

[01:15:45] and facebook where the weird ones are instagram is where underscore the weird ones are if you'd

[01:15:53] like to be on the show talk about some weird shit you can hit me up at where the weird

[01:15:56] ones are at gmail.com other than that I do sell and make I make my own and sell hot sauce and you

[01:16:05] can get that on where the weird ones are podcast.com I will say I shut off international shipping so if

[01:16:15] you do if you're not in America you can hit me up because i'm going to have to charge you

[01:16:19] pretty pricey for the shipping so and the shipping didn't doesn't calculate for um out of the country

[01:16:30] orders so i gotta figure that out before i can turn that back on

[01:16:35] but yeah so international shipping it was killing me so i had to shut it off but

[01:16:43] other than that yeah that's where uh that's where you can find me so uh thanks for having

[01:16:48] me on Liam this was a lot of fun um and uh like i said yeah i love your show so i hope you never stop

[01:16:55] thank you very much thank you very much appreciate it yeah i did want to uh

[01:16:59] just quickly on your hot sauce i did want to get some of that myself because i do like a hot

[01:17:03] sauce obviously i mean my my day job as a chef so i like anything food wise but yeah

[01:17:08] when i found out how much obviously international shipping stuff is i thought i will wait

[01:17:15] yeah international shipping is it was killing me it was basically you would buy you um

[01:17:22] the person would pay for it and then the money that they paid for it like so instant for instance um

[01:17:31] it's like eight dollars and something for shipping so uh two bottles is 25 so plus that eight

[01:17:39] something it's like 32 something um i shipped it to them for 34 so all the money had just made

[01:17:46] i just just went to shipping it to them so i wasn't making it i'm not making any money on the

[01:17:51] international shipping so uh for right now i had to shut it off until i can figure out a cheaper

[01:17:58] way to do it for the ship right now you know Natasha from these groups in conspiracy yes

[01:18:04] she made me obviously she does all the little crocheted figures she made me a zombie penguin

[01:18:09] yeah i was if my zombie stories episode that we did and then to ship it to me it was going to cost

[01:18:14] like i think like 60 dollars to just send it over holy shi- yeah i was like look as much as i wanted

[01:18:21] i cannot justify spending like because i think obviously i obviously had to pay or actually

[01:18:26] make anything like i cannot justify spending like 80 on a zombie penguin oh my god well

[01:18:34] you should um whenever you get the chance just let me know like what you want um and send me your

[01:18:41] address that way i can see because i i just got my own label printer and that has so far even just

[01:18:48] here has been a lot cheaper than um because it's been like 20 dollars to ship to Oregon

[01:18:56] and in texas like i shipped david some stuff and it will cost me 20 dollars to ship it to him but

[01:19:02] with the with making my own printing my own labels it's been it's been cheaper so

[01:19:08] it might be cheaper to ship it internationally so yeah just give me your address and in what

[01:19:14] for sauces that you want and i'll figure out like the weight and stuff like that and see if

[01:19:19] it see how much cheaper it would be because yeah haven't haven't been able to test it out of

[01:19:25] the states yet

[01:19:27] sounds good sound good right then guys thank you for listening once again Kevin thank you for

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