Unveiling UFO Secrets: From Abductions to Disclosure With Gethin Bibbs! Ep.140

[00:00:10] Right then guys, welcome back into the Spooky Shed, your go-to place for conversations around all things weird, scary and of course spooky. Tonight with me I have got paranormal investigator and UFO enthusiast Geffen. So Geffen, welcome into the Shed mate, how are we? Yes, hello there, good evening Liam and thank you very much for welcoming me to your show tonight.

[00:00:30] Good, good, good. Right mate, I've already prepped you so I get all my guests to leave something in the shed, can be literally anything you want, something you love, something you hate, a person, a place, a feeling, literally anything. The weirder the better preferably, but what have you got? Well, my pet hate is people that work above their stations, people that turn into managers when they're not supposed to be managers. That's my biggest bugbear. Fair enough, yeah, completely agree.

[00:01:00] Not weird, not weird, but it's one of those ideas that I have and I would like it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I completely agree with you there, so yeah, they can stay in the shed all of them. Yeah, exactly. Oh God. Right then mate, so, like I say, obviously you're a paranormal investigator and very much into UFOs and all that sort of stuff.

[00:01:23] So, I always like to start from the beginning. So, where does your interest into, like I say, we'll even say the paranormal as well. Where does your interest in all of, like I say, paranormal UFOs, all the weird stuff, where does that all start for you? Right, well, believe it or not, it started off with the UFOs. Well, back in the 70s, I was on holiday with my family in Pontins in Brean Sands, which is down in Somerset.

[00:01:51] I was only about, I was only about eight, nine years old I was at the time. That was a long time ago. So, any case, we'd been out for a night out and me and the family were walking back, my mother and my father. Both my parents were in my 30s at the time. And I was talking to my father about something, I don't know.

[00:02:15] But, for some and all reason, as I was walking, I basically ran in front of him and turned round. And as I did that, I stopped dead. And my father said, what's wrong with you? I said, what's that? And I pointed above, in Pontins in Breen Sands, they had a dome-shaped swimming pool there.

[00:02:40] And above this dome-shaped swimming pool, there was what I can only describe as an overcraft. All the lights of the rainbow. And it was just hovering above the actual swimming pool by about maybe 30 foot, if not. The odd thing about it was, is we watched it for a while.

[00:03:06] And then my father then, all of a sudden, decided, right, he must have had the fight or flight. He just decided, right, do I want my family back in the charlie? And we've never walked so fast back to a charlie in our lives. So, I did ask him about it. But he said, oh, it's an aeroplane, it's an aeroplane, it's an aeroplane. I said, I thought to myself, I wasn't an aeroplane.

[00:03:30] And from then, then, basically, my, I'm not saying my interest started, but it must have twigged something, because I still remember it to this very day. Moving on then to the 90s, I was in my, I was getting to the age where I was going out drinking with the lads. And, obviously, it's a Friday night, much similar to a night like this, except it was a little bit darker.

[00:03:59] Went out to the front door, and opposite where my parents were living in the Swansea Valley, I could see this extremely bright light coming down in between two valleys. First of all, I thought to myself, right, it must be a helicopter, because, obviously, it was, we don't normally get planes coming down that way. In any case, for some or no reason, my father, my father was in. So, I said, Dad, come and go look at this. So, he said, I said, what's that?

[00:04:29] So, we watched it for quite a while. Well, in any case, it came down the valley, and this valley was between a small village of Roos and Atwell. And what happened was, as the light came towards us, it split in two. And we were just, because, obviously, I was at the age, I was an adult, and I said, I don't know what the hell that was. And my father said, I can't explain it, he said.

[00:04:57] He said, and it was, one went up the valley, one went down the valley. And it was just split. And it wasn't, it wasn't as dark as you couldn't see, you know, if it was a helicopter. But these were just lights, and they just split. And the third encounter I had was last year. All right. I was outside my back garden. I go out there sometimes, and I just sky watch.

[00:05:26] I got night vision goggles, which I put on my head, so I can just look around without any hands. And I could see, I just looked up, and I could see this, like, white, bright white orb. It was basically gliding from, what I would say, from the west of Swansea, going over to the east towards Port Talbot. It was only about five hundred foot off the floor,

[00:05:53] and there was no aviation lights on it, and it was gliding, no noise whatsoever. I watched it for a good ten minutes until it disappeared into the distance, basically. I live in South Wales, and predominantly South Wales is extremely active. It's one of the most active UFO spots in the world.

[00:06:20] I have good friends who run a local UFO research group. That's why I've got to be very careful in how I announce myself, because they are the experts. And, yeah, they will tell you that the South Wales corridor from Camarthen down to Newport is extremely active in regards to UFOs. Hmm. That's interesting. I did not know that. I did not know that about Wales.

[00:06:52] Actually, I have been reliably informed that the M4 corridor, there are some, what they call, experiences, or people who basically get abducted. They call it experiences. And they will very rarely travel the M4, because that is the M4 corridor on the actual motorway is where most of them get abducted. Hmm. Okay. Very, very interesting.

[00:07:21] Good feel with them. Good feel with them. So, yeah. So, yeah. In any case, moving on. In regards to the abductions, for your own knowledge and for the knowledge of your viewers as well, did you know that the first ever abduction of a human being

[00:07:48] by what they call extraterrestrials or interdimensional beings happened in 1957, which predates the Betty and Barney incident out in America, which happened in 1961. This incident happened in Morriston, which is just three miles up the road from where I'm living. It was basically a gentleman walking home one night. He saw a bright light in the sky. The bright light came down.

[00:08:18] He had lost of time. I think it was two hours he lost of time. He reckons that he was introduced to three aliens with elongated heads with armored eyes. The communication was telepathic. He basically, yeah. After the incident then, he was basically found to have a mark on his body, which wasn't there the two hours before. And it was the first recorded

[00:08:48] because it was actually reported to the police, the local police. So they took a statement on it, which is very, very interesting. So, yeah. So Wales is actually the first abduction ever that took place in the world. The reason why the abductions happen, through my research, I don't know. They reckon it's because they're trying to build hybrids,

[00:09:18] for instance, so that they can survive better in their own worlds from wherever they come from, basically. But it is very, very interesting, to say the least, because obviously it's, there's different scenarios, different ways that people think that they happen, but there's no specific reason for it.

[00:09:47] But the majority of the people say that, if they wanted, you know, they've been asked, you know, if you could stop the experiences, would you? Most of them have said no, because they don't get hurt, and they believe that they're a big part of a bigger story, sort of thing, right, you know. To go back to the abductions, though, because that's the, like, when it comes to UFOs and stuff, because, like, essentially, obviously, I mean, anybody listening to this,

[00:10:15] we all know what UFO stands for, unidentified flying objects. So, essentially, like I say, a UFO could be anything, really. Yes. So, like, so, that interests me, because it, well, that's, that's, how do I word this? That's like a case of, like, what the hell is it? Or, not so much, where the hell is it from, if you know what I mean? Well, I say, when it comes to the abductions and stuff, that, that's the, they're the things that really intrigue the hell out of me,

[00:10:45] because, Yeah. more so, because, like you say, because it's, people that it happens to, it's usually multiple times. Yeah. Like you say, according to them, I'm going to say. Yeah. So, I always wonder, like, why? What, what, what is it about them? I'd love, I'd love to get, I'd love to, I'd love to get a group of them in a room, and see what, and see what the thing in common is, because, because there must be something that, like, connects them. Yeah. Most of them will tell you that they, they are number one,

[00:11:15] they are not in control of what happens. The frightening part of it is that when the abduction takes place, they are, um, the, these beings have got so much control over the individual. There's nothing at all. They can't fight back. There's nothing. It's as if they've got this advanced technology, which basically renders the person, uh, paralyzed for the time that they were them. Um, they can basically move them, um, with children, for instance, the,

[00:11:45] um, the, I call them interdimensional beings. They will present themselves as animals because that doesn't frighten the children. Um, um, I don't know whether you've seen the new disclosure film. I haven't yet. No, I'd really, I need to say it though. I highly recommend you see that because they, because, uh, Steven Spielberg has done a lot of research into, um, what could be happening and he brings the animals into it. Um, one primarily a stag, um,

[00:12:15] a stag, uh, comes into, uh, this little girl's room, basically, uh, walks a little girl out, walks a little girl then towards what we would call Hansel and Gretel house. Once the girl walks through the door, then obviously then she's entering the spacecraft. And then the, the, the animal slowly then turns into the interdimensional being that it is. a very good friend. And let, and let, let, let's be honest, like Steven Spielberg is well connected.

[00:12:44] So he's probably got inside information. So, uh, I've done a lot of research, um, using, um, AI basically, AI will deny it, but I've been reliably informed. I follow a gentleman called, uh, Dara Anka who channels, uh, interdimensional being called Bashar. And he has said that, you know, without actually saying it, that Spielberg did have, um, how can I say, a guidance from,

[00:13:14] um, beings that are not of this world. So, yes, you know, a lot of people say that this is only serious, but I believe that the governments basically got together and said, you know, this, I'll talk about disclosure now, uh, later on. Um, that obviously, um, you know, we are finding out more about what's happening now. And we need to, you know, this is as if they say, we need to get this out in a soft way to prepare for what's going to happen. Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Yeah.

[00:13:44] it, like I say, it does seem convenient, especially with, with a lot of the stuff that's, I can help being disclosed recently. And then, like I say, then to do a big, like I say, and especially when it's Steven Spielberg film, like I say, on, on basically the same thing. It does, it does feel like we're getting prepared for something, doesn't it? Yeah. Um, well, we might as well go on to the subject of disclosure now. basically, um, I've, um, again,

[00:14:12] follow a gentleman called Dara Anka, he channels Bashar. Um, if you watch his videos, which I, which I watch very regularly, um, he basically states that, um, in November this year, soft disclosure, or first contact will begin. Um, that will happen, um, through what we would call hybrids. Apparently, there are hybrids, which are, um, yeah, beings, which have been developed by interdimensional beings already living amongst us.

[00:14:42] Um, uh, they basically, they are camouflage, they are cloaked, but they are the first ones that we will be introduced to because they are more like this. So we won't be frightened of them. They, they know we will be thinking, oh, I've been working with you and you're, you are a hybrid. Um, and then hopefully then, uh, that'll happen starting November. Um, we, the interesting part of it is that the governments have got no control over disclosure whatsoever.

[00:15:10] A lot of people think the governments have got a lot of input into what happens with the, with the capture, caption of the UFOs. Um, if you listen to a gentleman called Dr. Stephen Greer, who is a physician and UFO, um, researcher out in America, very, very, um, proficient in his field. Uh, another guy I follow, and he will basically state that the, you know, the, the, the, the interdimensional beings are friendly.

[00:15:39] They only want to enhance us as a, as a human race. And, um, yeah. And then back to Bashar then, he states that the governments want to, can't have any, they will not have any control of it. So that is why obviously, you know, disclosure will be coming out hopefully November. Um, it'll only be for, um, specific people. Basically people think it's in a way everybody will know, but, um, this is more important to introduce people to first contact and disclosure, uh,

[00:16:10] in regards to people who, uh, believe basically, because a lot of people don't believe. My father doesn't believe. He's seen things, but he doesn't believe. So, um, so, you know, the likes of me who do believe, I'm not saying I'll be there because, people that have a higher, um, evolution in the, in the human race than myself. That will most probably meet these beings first. Hopefully then in 2027, then it'll be full disclosure and full contact.

[00:16:39] So basically speaking, we should begin to, there, yeah, you know, these people, these beings will make themselves known and hopefully our, our lives then will evolve onto the next phase then basically. Yeah. I mean, to me, that just, to me screams then that I say, if that's right and that happens, then like our technology is just going to go,

[00:17:05] is just literally just going to fucking skyrocket because I'm, I'm sort of, of the opinion. Like I, I, I really don't know where I stand with like, you know, if aliens interdimensional beings have, have visited earth. I still don't know fully what I believe because I'm sort of, I'm sort of of the opinion that I believe in aliens that it's like, it's a mathematical certainty. It just has to be. Yeah. But then, but I,

[00:17:35] but I do, I do struggle a little bit to believe that like, for how, but then, then, then again, I don't know. Basically, I find it hard to believe that somewhere else has managed to get that much more advanced to the point where they can survive traveling. You know, light years and, you know, away from like different planets and stuff because I say, obviously, obviously there's no life on,

[00:18:05] well, as far as we know, there's no life on any planet in our solar system sort of thing. Maybe because, well, there isn't a lot of them that you can actually land on or anything apart from, I don't know. But yeah, I, I just, I don't know where I stand with it. So I kind of hope that this does happen and then, then I'll know where I stand. Yeah, exactly. Um, yeah, it, it all stems back, uh, thousands and thousands and thousands of years back to when the Anunnaki came to planet Earth.

[00:18:33] they were a form of interdimensional being. They basically came to Earth to, um, to mine the minerals on Earth. And obviously they, they basically started using, um, how can I say, pre-Neanderthal man. They basically, um, yeah, they basically altered them then to become workers for them down the mines to be able to, uh, mine the minerals that, that they basically wanted. Um, and yes, the, um,

[00:19:03] the Anunnaki, uh, they are in pictures in caves, um, in temples, um, you know, you, you, you see the, you see the, the, um, the programs on television where you see this picture of, uh, of what they call a Manunnaki and he's sitting in a, what they deem as a spaceship and that's printed on a wall. You know, it's, you know, it's a little gifts on the wall. Um, things, things like that. So yes, as I said, I'm a great believer. You know, I have my own belief. I don't put my belief on other people.

[00:19:33] Um, and as I said, no, yeah, I do know a little bit about UFOs and interdimensional beings. Another good, um, another way of looking as well, as well is the alien gray, which is depicted as the main abducting species of interdimensional beings. And they say that they are us from the future. Um, so, so that is basically the, the theory is,

[00:20:03] is that is what we've evolved into. And they come from the future. Um, I, I find myself, I can't get my head around the fact that these, you know, they're coming from the future. So what does that mean? You know, you know, like, yeah, we've got spaceships, but they are spaceships must be beyond our technology. Definitely. I was talking to, um, a gentleman the other day who had an interesting chat with this,

[00:20:33] um, other gentleman about, um, he was actually, um, abducted by, um, aliens. And he actually went up on a spaceship and he went into space and he was, and he basically asked the aliens, he said, um, you know, how do you, how do you travel? And he basically said, you know, he said, you would, you would not understand how we travel. And he said, well, can you, you know, can you show me? He said, well, you won't understand. And he said, well,

[00:21:03] he kept on. So in the end, they said, let's go, we'll show you. So basically speaking, they, um, it would say, see if you've got a Rubik's cube with different element, um, designs around them. He said, what we do, basically, uh, the alien informed this gentleman who was in the craft with him. He said, we've got a Rubik's cube. He said, and like, if we turn the Rubik's cube like that, think of the place, bang, we're there. And that is how we travel.

[00:21:35] Yeah. That, that's odd. Yeah. Maybe handy. Yeah. It's definitely odd. Yeah. Um, as I said, a lot of other theories, think that they actually, the, because they use telepathy, they actually think of where they need to be. And then the combined consciousness of all the, um, beings in the craft, then we'll just take them directly to where they want to be. Yeah. Yeah. Almost like, I teleport in basically. Teleporting. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah.

[00:22:06] So to, to go, to go back to the likes of the, I know, I can stuff then because like, whilst, whilst I say like, I struggle to believe, like you say, if aliens have been here and stuff like, stuff like that definitely intrigues me because obviously there's like, obviously like, like let's just, let's just go with the easiest one, the pyramids and stuff, because it, it, it, it doesn't really make sense how the hell they were built. And like I say, obviously there's so many theories that, you know, that the Egyptians had help from aliens and stuff. Like, and I, I,

[00:22:35] I, I love them sort of theories because one, the fun, and two, I, when, when you look at the pyramids and when they were built, like, it almost kind of actually does make sense. So like, do you, do you know much about that? I do. I do. Actually, it's a very interesting story because I basically, um, I attend an academy in Swansea, which is the Academy for Spiritual Development. And I was in meditation one particular night.

[00:23:04] And I basically, um, I, uh, I, I, I basically was, was taken to, um, a scene, which was, um, I'm not saying it was in Egypt, but it was definitely, um, an Egyptian holding a staff. And this Egyptian holding the staff was, he was vibrate, he was literally vibrating at full speed. His whole body, full speed. Like, I see.

[00:23:32] So what happened was I basically came out of the meditation and the, the guy that runs the place asked me what I'd obviously see the meditation. So I told him, and he said, oh, he said, uh, he said, that is basically how the, how they built the pyramids. Because what happened is, is that when obviously these interdimensional beings came down, they, they chose certain people, which were mainly, um, higher ranks in, in the population, like priests and stuff.

[00:24:00] And what they apparently did was they gave these individuals powers. And these people could literally with their powers, they could vibrate and they could levitate the, the stones into place. Now that's a theory. I'm not saying that's how it happened, but I like to believe that. So that is how it happened. Um, because, um, the more I, the more research I do on it, the more, the more the same answers get back there. It is levitation. It is levitation.

[00:24:30] You know, the pure, the pure power, levitating the stones. So it is, not everybody could do it. It is only given to a certain amount of people. Hmm. Oh, because it's like, it's like, you look at the pyramids and like the, the, the accuracy of them and everything. And like you say, for, for it just to be built, you know, by regular man, like, like, like me and yourself, like there's, there's no way, especially,

[00:25:00] especially back then, like I said, like we'd struggle to do it now with the tech and the technology we've got now. Nevermind. Like I said, what was it? It was literally thousands of years ago, isn't it? Just to me, it's just. Cause the evidence is there, you know, the, you know, you know, scientists will say, you know, this stone was kept with laser precision, procedure. And these are, these stones going back thousands of years ago. The evidence is there. Yeah. The technology was there. So yes, you know,

[00:25:29] back in the days. Yeah. We've been constantly visited by these interdimensional beings over the years, basically. Um, let's have a think again now. I don't know. I don't know. It's like, it's like, it's like Stonehenge as well. I mean, I mean, I know, I know it's not, not, not, not on the same sort of scale because I mean, personally, I think Stonehenge is quite deceivingly small. I think personally, I've never actually been to it,

[00:25:57] but like looking at pictures from it, it looks a lot smaller than I thought. I remember when I, when I first ever seen it as a kid and learned about it and stuff like, like it was always described to me as like these huge stones and everything. And like, yeah, when, when I've looked into it, they're not actually that big, but I'm pretty sure. Didn't they work out that they're actually, cause obviously that's right, that's right down. So is it, is it Somerset? It's like Nick Glastonbury. Yeah. Yeah. And like, didn't, didn't it work out that them stones are from Wales?

[00:26:28] Yeah. Is that right? Yeah. It's like, how the hell have they got them there? Yeah. So they're from the Peseri mountains in Wales. Yeah. Yeah. Like, how have they got them there? Like the, I'd love for somebody to try and give me a logical answer to that. Yeah. Well, that's it. You know, the, you know, it's, it's the theory, isn't it? You know, you know, I think we're getting closer to the truth every year now, basically how, how these things were done. And hopefully when disclosure comes, yeah, these interdimensional beings will turn down and say, yeah,

[00:26:58] that's how, that's how we, we supported them. And that's how they did it. We gave them the power to do it. Basically. Um, another interesting concept as well is, um, back to disclosure. Um, are you aware of the, uh, incident, um, off the coast of Florida with the USS Nimitz? Uh, I don't think so. No, I don't think so. She's gone back in 19, have a look here. Now,

[00:27:29] basically speaking, there was a massive military operation off the coast of Florida, which involved the United States aircraft carrier, United States, uh, USS Nimitz. Um, and what happened was obviously they sent jets up into the air and they basically, um, these jets encountered what they call the Tic Tac. You must have heard of the Tic Tac incident, maybe. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Um, obviously this was a very,

[00:27:57] very huge thing in the, in, in military terms because the military then were admitting that they were, you know, this craft was flying. It was flying faster than their jets. It was, it was turning at the right angles, which were nigh on impossible. If anybody was in the craft, they'd be dead because of their swift turns. So obviously, yeah, I, I basically fell into the belief. Yes. Okay. That's a, it's a, it's an alien craft. And, you know,

[00:28:26] the United States government now, especially military are admitting that these crafts do exist. Um, but interestingly enough, then I was listening to, uh, Dr. Stephen Greer. Um, now this gentleman, um, you might've heard of him or might not. He's a, he's a physician by trade, but he's a UFO researcher. He's, um, he's, um, he's, he's, he's, he knows so much about it. his life has been threatened on numerous amounts. Of occasions,

[00:28:57] um, you know, uh, you know, like bullets are cheap and stuff like that. But he basically stated that he knew somebody that worked in the skunk works out in America, which build all the classified, um, um, craft in America, like the blue bird and the stealth bomber. And he had had it from a reliable source that the tick tack, um, um, craft had actually been built by the United States government.

[00:29:25] It was manned by, um, it was diverse engineered manned by United States military personnel. And what they did was they used the tick tack incident to basically begin soft disclosure. So it was like, we'll use this craft now to show the public. Oh yes, we're beginning to believe now that these crafts do exist. But the thing was, it wasn't an alien craft. It was built by the, built by the United States government.

[00:29:55] But that goes to show what. Craft and technology that the governments, especially United States government, have already. Dr. Stephen Greer has stated that, you know, there's, um, he is aware that the governments, especially United States government and other governments around the world, they are keeping, um, they got, they, they have found boundless amounts of energy, which are limitless,

[00:30:23] but they're keeping this energy from the public because obviously they, you know, the world economy, we must buy oil, we must buy electric, but there are, as he said, you know, he is aware. I'm not quite sure whether he's actually seen it, but he is aware of these devices, which are fit in a hand, which have got boundless amounts of, um, energy in them. And it's not, uh, radioactive. It's just a form of energy, which would basically,

[00:30:53] if we had one in each house, we'd never have to pay bills ever again. That'd be nice. That would be nice. And I think that will happen in the next couple of years, because obviously with, with disclosure, we'll get, you know, you know, space travel will happen. Uh, we'll get to, um, you know, yeah, you know, we are going to evolve. Um, and I don't think it's going to be, you know, people say it's going to be, or, you know, the world will destroy itself because, you know,

[00:31:23] the ledger, after watching the disclosure firm, no, it's not, I think the, I think the ledger knows that there are other things out in space. It's just that they are, you know, they just, you know, keeping it under wraps, but it won't have a massive effect on the planet, except a positive effect. Yeah. Yeah. So I want to, I want to go back to when we first started to talk about disclosure. And so, because obviously you said that, you know, that it's not, it's not up to the governments, you know,

[00:31:53] to, to, to do the disclosure. So who is it up to? And why hasn't it happened before then? Basically, if you listen to Bashar, who is the entity that, uh, Dara Lanka, um, channels, it's because we weren't ready. Right. But we are ready now. We are getting to the stage now where we are ready. Um, and that is why disclosure is coming. Um, the, um, the reason, um,

[00:32:22] the interdimensional beings are not saying that they've got control over the governments. It's just that the governments haven't got control over them. They are far more superior, but not in a nasty way. It's in a nice way. You know, we want you to evolve as a planet and your governments will not be involved in making that decision. Yes or no. So yes, we've been under the thumb for the past since, you know,

[00:32:52] since, well, humanity has been on the planet basically. But yeah, disclosure should come now. And, I'm really excited for them. I mean, you've got to answer them. More people I speak about it, you know, yeah, I got, I got friends and family who, you know, don't want to talk about it because they, you know, they just want to live, live life. But, you know, they, you know, they understand my, my outlook on life and the belief systems I have as well. So, yeah.

[00:33:23] Yeah. I mean, there's definitely still, there's definitely still people that will be full blown. Like, I don't, I don't, I don't, I don't really want to say deniers, but that's the, that's the only, that's the only word I can think of. But to me, like you say, especially in the last, I don't know, let's, let's say, let's say five years. Yeah. There does seem to be a lot more people who seem to be changing their opinions on, like you say, UFOs, aliens, even with the paranormal and stuff. Do you,

[00:33:52] do you think that's a coincidence or do you, or do you think that's involved? I think, I just think that it's the way that they, I think it's the way that the media puts it in everything. There's, there's soft disclosure happening all the time. It's happening on television. It's happening. Um, you know, I watched a film the other day. I can't remember what the film was about, but, uh, halfway through the film, it was about, um, space travel. It was on next minute. The, this spaceship went,

[00:34:21] spaceship went towards the, uh, the moon. It went into a crater. And next minute it went in, it went fully into the moon. And the moon was like in a, it's a massive steel cage. And a lot of people have been saying for a long time that the moon is actually, um, an interdimensional base where the galactic, where the galactic federation, which is, um, uh,

[00:34:48] it's an interdimensional council basically that rules the universe, um, um, of different alien species. And they reckon that they, they basically work out of the moon. They're inside the moon. Um, a friend of mine said the other day, he said, yeah, but he said, you, you know, you can't say that. They know when they went around the moon the other day, when they went up, but they didn't say it. They didn't see anything. I said, do you think they want to say, do you think they're going to tell you? Exactly. Exactly. And to, and to be fair then, like you say, if, if I said,

[00:35:18] there's like full disclosure, what happened by 2027, it makes, it makes a lot more sense of why, you know, like the U S NASA and stuff, uh, you know, trying to go back to the moon. And obviously the, the, the, obviously they've spoken about the one, uh, a lunar base as they're calling it. So it does, it does kind of make sense. The lunar base is already there. Yeah. You know, by the research I've done, it's already there. They're actually, they're, you know, they're actually going to,

[00:35:48] you know, yeah, we see space travel, yeah, you know, a rocket goes to the moon, but what they don't show you is the launches outside the public eye, where they sit, where they send in military, military people up to, up to Mars. They're all, they're already there. They're already traveling there, but they don't tell us that, you know, there's, you know, yeah, you know, there is evidence like, you know, I've seen, you know, when I said to astronomy, you know,

[00:36:16] I actually looked at the moon one night when it was in half moon stage. And I could see lights on the dark side of the moon through my telescope. Because I, I stepped back and it almost had a run on. I'm seeing lights on the moon, yeah. I'm just on the dark side. It wasn't a star. Definitely wasn't a star. So, yeah, you know, it's my belief. It's what I research, but it's what people want to believe as well. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, as I said,

[00:36:46] it's, um, another thing I'd like to mention as well, um, is do you ever, have you ever heard of a program on television called Skinwalker Ranch? Yes. Right. Okay. Now I've been an avid, um, supporter and watcher of Skinwalker Ranch over the years. My wife always tells me, ah, they'll never get to find out the truth. The governments will stop them before they get to the truth. But funny enough, um, they were doing an interview with Bashar. And, uh,

[00:37:16] they basically asked Bashar what is exactly happening on Skinwalker Ranch. And he basically came back and he said, there is a ancient, that, which has crashed into that mesa over the years. It's basically been covered over and it's been, um, you know, the, the blank is covered over. And that is, and the, this, this craft is millions of years old, apparently, and it's still working on the inside. And it's admit,

[00:37:46] it's emitting, um, electrical magnetic power, which is, which is the reason why nothing works. And there's odd things happening on Skinwalker Ranch. Um, the reason why they can't drill into a mesa and the drills get stuck is because the material that the craft is made out of is super hard and it's, and it's harder than the drill bits. So I don't, I don't watch it anymore now because I, I've had, I, I, how can I say?

[00:38:15] I believe a lot in Bashar. And if he said, if he tells me that, you know, yeah, I believe that. So I don't watch it anymore. Cause funny enough, my friend asked me, he said, are you watching Skinwalker Ranch? I said, I used to, not anymore. Oh, why is that? Because, you know, I've heard this. And I believe in that basically. So, you know, so, yeah. So it's, uh, quite a lot of things happening. There's, there's lots of portals then on, um, Skinwalker Ranch where craft are coming in,

[00:38:45] craft are going out. Um, you know, yes, they, you know, they see seen some weird things like they've seen dire wolves and stuff like that on Skinwalker Ranch where they're coming in through portals. So, you know, because obviously they come in and then they did and then they disappear. And obviously on one specific episode of Skinwalker Ranch, they found this decomposed, um, animal in the river. and on research, um, um, the anthropologist said that,

[00:39:15] or the, the person that has all the animal bones, he said it was consistent with the dire wolf jawbone. So, it was, uh, very, very interesting. And that, that, um, and apparently what happened, that dire wolf came out of, um, came out of the Leeds area. It came and attacked, um, uh, a bull or cow. Uh, the farmer shot at it about six times with a, you know,

[00:39:45] with a magnum and it didn't down it. And then it just ran off. And then it, well, it must've died in the river. Yeah. So, yeah, it's, it's, it's a, it's a very strange place. And it is. Yeah. Yeah. I, I, it's one of the, it's, it's, it's one of the few places where I can, where I'm not sure if I'd want to go to or not. Oh, I'd love to go there. Knowing what I know now, as I said, like, you know, it's, but as I said, like, you know, it's, you know, the more,

[00:40:15] the more I look into things, this world is a weird place. For instance, another thing as well is Bigfoot. Now, a lot of people don't know this, but Bigfoot is actually a species of an interdimensional bear. Right. I was actually looking at Facebook the other day, and what happened was, they were basically, uh, playing, um,

[00:40:45] they said how many species of interdimensional beings are there? And I think it's over 80 altogether. And, or in this picture, it was Bigfoot. So what's happening is obviously, yeah, Bigfoot is elusive. Why is it elusive? Because it's coming in and out of portals. Yeah. You know, people, you know, people see them one minute and then they go on. Yeah. Because they're coming in to portals,

[00:41:13] but they are a form of, they are a form of alien. It's like, you know, you've got the reptilians, you've got the mantis, you've got the mantis, um, species, you've got Bigfoot, you've got the alien greys, you've got the, uh, the Pleiadians, you've got the Nordics. Like the Nordics mainly appear, I think the Nordics are the ones that will be, that will appear in soft disclosure because those are, they look like us. They just look like people with white hair, but they, they Nordic,

[00:41:43] Nordic aliens, but they look exactly like us. So as I said, you know, if we were introduced to them, that, you know, if I would came across a Nordic, they say, well, you look like me. Yeah. But I'm from the Pleiadian system, which is six billion years that way. Yeah. There's a, there's a, with, with the world cup on at the minute, there's a very easy jokes to make there about Erling Haaland being an alien. Yeah, exactly. Cause he play, he fucking plays like one. But the thing is, the thing is, Liam, you know, what is so, you know,

[00:42:16] you know, as I said, you know, my wife says, you'd love to meet me. And I said, I would absolutely love to meet an interdimensional being because it's just another being that lives in this vast universe that we call who? Yeah. Well, I think I've, I'm pretty, I'm pretty sure he was a, pretty sure it's a Brian Cox quote. That's some, something along the lines of that. It's, it's, it's either we're alone or there's, or there's life out there. Yeah. And both,

[00:42:44] both of them situations are just as scary. Oh yeah, definitely. You know, you know, the thing is, you know, believe it or not, um, the universe scares me because I just think of this vast black space. Um, we are in it, but you know, yeah, I asked myself and I've asked my friends, like, you know, what comes after the universe, but it goes on for, you know, we just live in this big black void basically.

[00:43:14] And that's the only thing that they do lose sleep over. Sometimes I think to myself, you know, what, you know, where are we? You know, where are we? You know, it's weird. Yeah. But, um, yeah. Cause I always, I always go back to, there's a, it's on, uh, on men in black. Yeah. Like how obviously like, like there's a, there's a full blown like civilization living in a frigging locker in a bus station. And then there's a full on galaxy on the,

[00:43:42] on the cat's collar and stuff like that. And as far as we know, like something like that could be legit. Oh yeah. Because like you say, we, we, we've got no, like there's no, there's no scale because like I said, cause, cause the universe is that big. There's no, there's no, there's no way to scale how big something is and how small something is. When you think about it like that. Yeah. Um, yeah. Um, you know, it's like at, at the end of the first men in black film, um, if you notice at,

[00:44:10] at the end where they zoom in out from the planet earth, and then they end up then with, um, a bunch of aliens playing marbles with our universe. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. And I think that's very, very, um, you know, apt. I think that's very, you know, true. But the thing is, if you look at all the, if you, if you look at programs, films, you know, it's all there. You know, like I watched,

[00:44:35] I know I watched Stargate SG one because I believe that it's not just a program. They're actually telling you what already exists. Yeah. You know, um, you know, and people, you know, I was reading something the other day about, um, it was, he's, uh, members of the public were out in a desert out in Nevada the other day. And they were, um, they come across, um, this military exercise from a distance. And they,

[00:45:05] they were had the pair got, uh, binoculars on them. And they were literally apparently watching United States army soldiers walking straight into a cliff and disappearing. What the hell? Yeah. They were, they were walking straight into a stone face and just disappearing. But the thing is, they believe that some portals are basically operated by what they call vibration. So if you can set a certain vibration, um,

[00:45:34] what, what seems to be stone is actually a gateway. And they were just walking into the stone and they were walking. There's lots of them walking in, walking in, walking in. Apparently, not long after that, apparently these people were approached by people with, um, with the assault rifles and they were basically informed, you either go now or we will shoot you dead. Nice. Yeah.

[00:46:05] Hmm. So it doesn't only happen on, uh, area 51. Yeah. Yeah. Which, which is, which to be honest, I think, I think area 51 would be an episode in itself. Yeah. One thing I want to ask you, because this, this is a, this is a theory that I love. I don't, I don't, I don't know how much I believe it, but it's just, I talk to people about this all the time because I just, I really like it. I think, I think it's a fun theory that we're, that we're not from this planet.

[00:46:36] And because, and the, and the, obviously the examples that come up with is how, you know, how many people get like chronic lower back pain. And it's because we're not used to this much gravity. Like we're allergic, we're allergic to bloody pollen. Half of the bloody world is covered in obviously grass and stuff. Yeah. You've got people who are bloody asthmatic or like almost essentially allergic to bloody oxygen. Like we're, we've got so many things that we're allergic to. Like every, everything else on this planet is like, is like made to be here. Like, you know,

[00:47:06] everything's got some sort of like, like, like we're the only things really that burn in the sun. Yeah. And like that, that sort of thing. Like, I don't, I don't know if you've thought much about that sort of thing. Um, I believe that we as a species have come from what, um, interdimensional beings or aliens brought to the planet all those years ago. So yes, we've evolved from, you know, um, ape into man. Yeah.

[00:47:36] Like what absolutely puzzles me is that if we, if we've evolved from ape into man, why are there still apes? I get, I get, I get where you're coming from with that one, but it's like, it's, it's, I think it's, it's because obviously we, we didn't actually evolve from chimps sort of thing, but then it's like, obviously how we said earlier about, about, about Neanderthals and stuff. Yeah. It's obviously things, the things have gone off in different ways.

[00:48:06] I'm guessing, like I said, I mean, I'm not, I'm not fucking scientist or anything. So I haven't got a clue. No, this is literally me. Just what I am. Well, I'm basically guessing really, but that, that, that's what I would imagine it is. But it is strange because obviously there was, like you say, like, like Neanderthals and, and other sort and other, well, basically what we're humans, but not what we are. Yeah. Similar sort of things. Like, you know, how, what we,

[00:49:00] I suppose the fun question is, obviously with evolution, you know, your genes are passed down, passed down. You know, I got my mother's and father's genes in me. Yes. And you know, yes, I suppose. Yeah. You know, can't say I know a lot about that, mind you, but, uh, I'll be quite honest here, but it's a, it's a, it's a feasible theory. Yeah. Yeah. It's like, I think like, like how far technology has gone. I think to me, to me, there's definitely, there's definitely something involved there.

[00:49:30] Because like, I mean, like I, I always, I use my, my granddad. Like he's, he's not, he's not with us anymore, unfortunately, but like, so he, he was born in 1933. So in his lifetime, he saw like the invention of the TV, then the color TV. Like, so like I said, when my granddad was born, like there was like, they basically, they basically, they had a radio, that sort of thing. yeah. And then by the, by the time he died, like we were, we were FaceTiming people.

[00:49:58] We were making phone calls on watches and stuff. And it's just like, and that was in like, like less than 90 years. Yeah. Like that's, that's a hell of a fucking leap. Like, I often wonder now, like from, from when I was born in 1992, if, if, if by some miracle, I can, I can last until I'm, 90, I'm like, what the hell are we going to be doing then? Yeah. That's a concept I think about. Especially if discovery happened. Very, very regular. I think about that because obviously with,

[00:50:28] you know, like, um, I was, I was talking to my wife the other day, my niece had just had a baby boy. He's only, he's just, he's just not, not a month old. And I thought, if everything that I believe in comes true, this, this kid is going to have such a wonderful life ahead of him. Because obviously, if, you know, things are revealed, we get the technology, boundless amounts of power, which we should have had a long time ago. The annoying thing about it is that obviously we have been,

[00:50:58] we have been suppressed for so many, many, many years by the government. And so basically being, yeah, we'll get as much out of you to give us a good life. And, you know, as I said, but at the present moment, as I said, like, you know, we said like with electric cars, for instance, you know, most of the adverts you see on television are for electric cars. You very rarely see one for petrol or diesel. And I thought I'd never see that happen.

[00:51:26] But obviously now they're thinking like, okay, how can we make money now by using electric? You know, the hydrogen is going to be, you know, coming out before long, you know? So, well, it's not before long. It's just, it's already out, but they know it's a bit, they reckon it's a bit too dangerous to use at the moment. But, yeah, very, very, very interested in the future. And I, you know, you know,

[00:51:55] at my age, I think to myself, I just hope I get to see just a little bit of, if I just see a little bit of it, before I see this mortal coil, I'll be happy. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's definitely interesting. It's definitely interesting. Right then, Geffen, I think that might be a good place to leave that for this one. Yeah, okay. Thank you very much, Liam. Absolutely sweating my what's-its off in here, so.

[00:52:26] I'll be happy with you then, and here we go. Thank you very much for the opportunity, Liam. I, I love talking about this, and it's been nice talking about my beliefs, and what I enjoy, in, in an apt place, basically. So, yes, thank you very much. No problem, no problem. Like I said, I'd love to everyone again, like I say, I mean, I'm going to get, we could, we could easily continue this conversation, because I think,

[00:52:55] I think I could sit here for another couple of hours, and talk about this, but, I'd love to talk about the paranormal and stuff as well, so we'll definitely have to, we'll definitely have to plan something, something about that. Definitely, yes, I'd be more than happy to do that, yes. Happy to, right then guys, we shall leave it there for this one, so as always, go and follow the Instagram page, at the Spooky Shed Podcast, link in the bio there, for all the socials, merch store, YouTube channel, and all that good stuff, and we will speak to you next time. Okay, thank you.

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