2000 Trees Festival - On The Stage with Frank Turner, Dune Rats, Indoor Pets & The 900

[00:00:14] Hello and welcome to Fandomentals, the podcast that explores pop culture, one conversation at a time. I am your host, Harley. Every episode, I interview different people from around the world to discuss a variety of topics within the world of pop culture. Thanks for joining

[00:00:30] me on this journey and I hope you enjoy the episode. Hello and welcome back to the Fandomentals podcast. This is the fifth and final episode from our on-the-stage series at the 2000 Trees Festival. Today, I am joined by four wonderful

[00:00:54] artists, all of whom got to perform at the 2000 Trees Festival. In today's episode, I'm joined by John from the 900, James Anali from Indoor Pets, BC Danny and Brett from Dune Rats and Frank Turner. These episodes have been amazing, I've loved speaking to all of

[00:01:12] the artists. If you haven't already heard the previous episodes, please do yourself a favor and go back and listen. There are four other episodes featuring 15 fantastic artists and a behind-the-scenes episode where I get to talk to some wonderful people who are backstage

[00:01:26] at the 2000 Trees Festival. This series has been an absolute blast put together. I am so thankful that I got to do this and I'm really, really thankful to you for listening to it. With all that said,

[00:01:39] let's just get to it. This is on the stage at 2000 Trees with the 900 indoor pets, Dune Rats and Frank Turner. Hello, John and welcome to the Fandomentals podcast. Thank you so much for having me, man. Thank you. I love the impromptu chat,

[00:02:03] air in the Marshall Tent which I'm just pinching myself because if you're told like 10-year-old Harley, you'll be chatting to bands in a Marshall tent at a festival. He would have just passed out from excitement. I think we shared that. Yeah, yeah. I was telling you this before,

[00:02:22] but this is hardly the best festival to be doing exactly that. Yesterday, I ran into Greg Poochia of Bet Lovers and I was like, I have to just say hello. Absolutely. I don't think anywhere else

[00:02:37] he would have like welcomed it as he did yesterday. It was like, hey man, how are you doing? Yeah, I was Greg. I'm like, yeah I know. Oh, I know. That's awesome. Now that's what I love

[00:02:51] my love about these festivals is just a chance to chat to people and it's been really lovely chatting to bands as well about festivals and something like I've been doing is going back and

[00:03:00] just asking people, what the first one was that they went to. So do you remember that first festival you went to? First festival. Yes, let's talk about the first international festival, though. Okay, all right. Because I grew up in Iceland. Amazing. Like I did Icelandic festivals

[00:03:19] and all that, but those are just two big excuses to see 12 bands in a day and drink yourself like to be fair enough. So back in 2014, me and my buddies, we bought tickets to see

[00:03:33] to go to Rockverter. I think it's cool. I think it's in Belgium. Yeah, yeah. And that was my first like real festival experience. Yeah. And it was, it was so much fun. I want to say it was so,

[00:03:48] so much fun. I was chatting to a band earlier, a ram not from, I think they're from Belgium and they were telling me about the just the vibes of their festivals. They sounded incredible. Yeah.

[00:03:57] Yeah. There we go. It was usually when you go to a festival like on the third day, the bar staff is just if they're tired of you. Like they just go get get get out of the next.

[00:04:11] Even on the third day, late hours, same same staff, same everything. They just greeted me like I was family. Also, it was so funny. Yeah. The vibes were good. That's good to know. It's all about

[00:04:27] playing a festival then. What was the first festival you guys got to play as? For the Icelandic ones, it was Estenaflux, which was a heavy metal festival in the eastern part of Iceland. I did not know they did festivals in Iceland, Lellon, Heavy Metal. We've got,

[00:04:48] I think we've got six metal festivals now each year. Now that I think about it, that makes sense where it's cold and dark. That's the music. It's going to get you through it. Like in December, you've got the anti-christianity black metal festival. Wow. We've got

[00:05:03] Salton and new things. We have also got Doom Sember. Doom Sember? Yeah. Yeah. Recker Doom. Gas nuts. Yeah. And Northern Punk. Really? Which is a full-blown DIY sub-culture kind of thing. It's so sick. Awesome. So it was like a lot of those

[00:05:34] going from festival to festival to festival, because the best thing about the Icelandic music culture is if you get into a heavy band and you are not sub-par, you can hold your own.

[00:05:48] You get to play all these festivals. Yeah. And then it's up to you if you're good enough to play it again. Like that. Everybody wants you to play again. The top lottery is real. But the first international festival was when my old band we played at Roadburn.

[00:06:08] In 2018, I think. And that is also one of the best festival experiences I've had in terms of play. Wow. Okay. Yeah. It was fantastic. Roadburn is a great place to get to know new bands, new up-and-comingers, yeah. At also legacy bands. Right. That's amazing.

[00:06:33] And I like to dig a little deeper with bands about exactly why they like to play it festivals. Because a lot of people are listening and understand being an band, going on a tour, you know,

[00:06:43] or even touring with a band that you love. There's kinds of experiences. But what is it about festivals that you sort of appeals to you? So the big, big appeal of the festival to me is

[00:06:56] the same appeal one would have to a big family reunion or any type of reunion, like a big reunion in which you connect good fond memories to. So let's say I've been on tour with a band for

[00:07:15] three weeks. I'm seeing the same people every day for three weeks. I'm having the same conversations for three weeks. Doing the same things, everything's machine-like. Yeah. The same things. It's just

[00:07:30] such a routine that when I get like oh yeah we hit the festival at 1 p.m. And there's bus call at 3 a.m. So you've got 14 hours mate. That means I get to hang out with so many of my friends.

[00:07:46] So many great people in the business. So many because like we all got into it for the same reason. We just love music, we'll have a great night. We'll have listening to it. We'll have seeing it.

[00:07:58] So getting to go to a festival meeting all these people, even sharing the stage with all these people. It's just, it's really a privilege and I think it is because of its such a privilege

[00:08:13] that you just automatically love it. Yeah. Because it's a privilege inside of something that you already love. Yeah. So yeah. So I like the festival. I really do like the festival.

[00:08:26] I'm glad to hear it. And that is something that's come up as a kind of recurring theme so far is this idea of like community and as you say, like not just oh yeah I get to see live bands

[00:08:37] and I get to be in it. It's but you get to feel what that's actually like, you know, in terms of how it affects people and like you said, being here hanging out with people like all the amazingly

[00:08:46] people behind the scenes right and like we're sat back here now just on sofa is having a bear and you know and your chat ends of people that yeah work with all these other artists and you meet

[00:08:56] the guys in the PR and you know like so far everyone I've met here has been so nice and it's yeah again that seems to be a recurring thing of of these festivals just seems to bring out the best in people.

[00:09:10] And in my experience it isn't until I don't know until the capacity of the festival yeah is more is like bigger than a small town right? That's when that's when just people

[00:09:28] they kind of just don't have time to be nice and to be to kind of live the things sharp when the capacity of the festival is at a moderate thing yeah everybody feels good.

[00:09:42] Yeah it's just I'm not saying you don't feel good at the big festival you say I'm saying the vibes it's different are a bit more tense yeah yeah because not many things have to go wrong

[00:09:54] yes for the house of cards to collapse you know I mean so yeah it's a good yeah the vibe here is vibe here is excellent it is yeah it is I'm curious like what's been one of your favorite

[00:10:10] experiences at a festival so far? This festival well any festival you can do the way this one for sure yeah I don't know being in the martial areas always nine I'll drink to that also yeah great the great people at martial keep me

[00:10:30] they are the best all day all day I'm taking that right I didn't know it was uh I had a had a had a had a new theory of experience about two

[00:10:47] weeks ago when I went to outbreak oh wow okay uh up in Manchester yeah and got to see one of my favorite bands live because they've like they've quit so who has a have heart all right okay

[00:11:02] like straight-redge hardcore band for Boston yeah yeah one of the shapeers of that scene yeah and with me being a straight-redge kid I listened a lot to have hard when I was kind getting over things and sure and it became truly more than just a show

[00:11:23] yes it was there was a moment in their set where a lot of things kind of clicked for me yeah as I was just standing in the crowd and yeah life kind of made more sense it's weird to say

[00:11:38] right because it's just a band playing so there was just it was just something that happened and that's why yeah that's what I say it was some sort of ethereal experience

[00:11:51] yeah but yeah that's kind of that that would be my takeaway from that like if you have a chance to see if you have other chance to see a band that you truly like yes yeah don't think that you'll have

[00:12:06] more like take your chance yeah take your chance that you're being given I like it if it means that must you go see them yeah all that I agree and I genuinely believe like the music is

[00:12:19] like transformative it is something just magical about it and you know like I've just finished the season songwriting and chatting to different people in you know that world and yeah it's something

[00:12:29] that I'm deeply passionate about as music absolutely love it and yeah like you said these these are the these opportunities go see people live I totally agree yeah especially if that band or that

[00:12:38] music means something to you because yeah it just it does hit differently live yeah yeah I think we all remember our first gigs right and that's moment where it just hits you and you're like oh

[00:12:47] I'm watching this live yeah this is happening right now oh okay and you just bend like an hour just stuck in that stage and I mean the the like the flow of information today is is that such a

[00:13:00] pace so oh it is it doesn't matter if the song you like by the band you like you discovered it through 12 second tick-tock right yeah if it means something to you they have a matter where it came from

[00:13:15] totally everyone's yeah everyone's entry point is different these days I mean it's funny like yeah you can chat to people now about um particularly the metal seam right like what social media

[00:13:25] is doing for that you know I know loads of people that are just picking up like death tones and and like you know sort of new metal bands like Lincoln Park and you're like wait what oh it's

[00:13:36] cuz it's trending yeah yeah and obviously you know nostalgia cycle players are all but yeah I agree it's it's strange or even like you know stranger things right kind of like not that

[00:13:46] long ago please master a puppet yeah I jumped up and she had so I don't like oh yeah and then suddenly everyone's going oh yeah master a puppet is like yes master a puppet you know but

[00:13:55] other side of the coin always is like the gatekeepers of the scene right yeah yeah do whatever you want I don't don't end up somebody for absolutely it's like no no why would you yeah and again that's

[00:14:13] that's what's beautiful about festivals right is yeah well especially one's like like genuinely think 2,000 trees is there's I don't think there's any room for it no you know because I'm a big fan

[00:14:22] of stuff like Daniel I'm a bit fan of like metal festivals stuff yeah but uh it has to be said did you get a lot of people complaining and being a keeper even yeah oh so and so shouldn't

[00:14:33] headline or so and so it's like oh my god where is I genuinely feel like you come to trees and I don't feel like you ever see that no because it's such a weirdly mixed up line up in the best

[00:14:44] possible way yeah I wouldn't really care I mean bullet for my Valentine headline last year no I'm back at I exactly you know whereas you yeah if I imagine at another festival you might get a bit

[00:14:53] of people turn their lips up a bit you know just turning their nose up rather and going oh what's this but I saw last year I saw like I saw American football um headline the last day right

[00:15:05] but earlier that day I saw death caught tightens of Chelsea grin wow okay Tom Barber laying like a half a minute long gutter all yeah have nowhere and then go over to another tent to hear

[00:15:21] Dino do do do do do do do do do do do that so good it's so great yeah as you said I don't think you get there get that at a lot of festivals no no and that's why should be right if you just be

[00:15:33] all about celebrating music that's just enjoy it so on that no I'd love to know John genuinely if you had to have your own festival I'll know what's the name of the festival all right and who

[00:15:44] would you pick as your three dream headliners uh as a tough question yes yeah so my festival would probably be near Christmas okay because my name is John okay I would call it Mary Johnmas

[00:16:01] that's a great answer oh Mary Johnmas mother of my John or something like that yeah what's it wait what's the what's the Shakespeare play um um um soul of soul of soul of my John or something like oh yeah yeah that be oh okay I'll steal that

[00:16:22] all right and what was it what was it oh yeah just a three headline as yeah who would you pick headliners anyone you're like yeah I'd probably go wow um I'd probably do wow nickel back okay uh and I'd love to have feedback ridges there

[00:16:45] uh huh and and and Kublaicard wow that is quite the variety yeah yeah you're the first person saying nickel back on the podcast your breathe little back is one of the best bands in the world

[00:17:02] fight me on it if you want but I will I'm a victor genuinely agree my wife's a big fan and like we joke about dating but they're good they're good most weird band most radio plays that

[00:17:14] the band has had in the in the 2000s it there's a reason there's a reason 100% degree that well that would that would be a great festival a great lineup confusing you know

[00:17:28] but interesting well John thank you so much for coming on the show man thank you so much Holly I appreciate cheers hello James and Ollie and welcome to the Fandermenthals podcast hello hello right so sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm sorry I'm the Docs myself take two

[00:17:49] there wasn't recording it's all good yeah guys thank you so much for coming on the podcast uh yeah first question what was the first festival that you guys went to as an audience man

[00:17:59] so I'm not sure as a band the first episode played well that's a run back on memories but personally actually this one although technically was lounge on the farm which was in Canterbury yeah only

[00:18:10] lasted a couple years so I'm just gonna count two thousand trees because it is also my favorite so yeah I'm gonna say that I'm gonna choose my first of them yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[00:18:18] he says it all the time and lounge on the farm was in Canterbury yeah well from here I saw okay I didn't count my first festival outside of my town he was here yeah yeah I know yeah it was

[00:18:28] amazing yeah bad was that when it was just a forest stage and stuff no so I remember the main stage I believe it was slightly differently set out but the main stage is exactly where it was nice um yeah

[00:18:39] and that I'm my memory of what actually went on it's pretty easy it was headline uh I can't remember I want to say bomb bay by school club yeah but that we can that that's when I definitely discovered them uh twinnet landtick were playing the 65 days

[00:18:52] of static lovely also discovered the king blues back in the day um yeah it was also marbazettes marbazettes were here nice that was class well great yeah yeah that was like a young they were like

[00:19:03] 16 years ago yeah yeah yeah wow okay yeah like his self change mine I think was leads festival 2006 some bit older and I think the headline it was muse okay I think guns and roses may be

[00:19:18] played a might have been the rage play yeah me I've got memories of like that they played we've been them few years didn't yeah first time I went I saw two monkeys in like what was the carling 10 like the festival probably yeah they were like

[00:19:31] 20,000 people trying to get in a 3000 cat net oh your chip people brilliant just like I'm the senior that I'm seeing it it was meant to be a bit of a cheer and the festival public stage

[00:19:41] oh really yeah yeah yeah and I have a playing I mean we mentioned it earlier but yeah it'll be easy or who I mean like first proper festival might feel like you're probably a no robot no this like we were gonna like one thing can't

[00:19:56] that were like all day like day yeah yeah like all the old days we've been a band for 10 years at this point right okay it's quite okay to remember yeah how does it can't

[00:20:09] yeah I don't we one of the earliest ones was this festival yeah yeah yeah when we got it yeah when we got a high engine that was when the first proper proper festival nice yeah sorry Clara no it's finally there's totally try I've had those kind of responses

[00:20:24] well like the old day the old days you're like a good like foot in the door just get used to it I was eventually doing this at the first in the season right so yeah exactly just got going

[00:20:33] as planned but all like started into the late at the end of the summer before you get on that yeah yeah yeah it would be like great escape or yeah awesome awesome so something

[00:20:44] I've been diving into a little bit with bands is what the appeal is of playing at festivals I think people listening at home would be like oh yeah I get being an abanio going on the road

[00:20:52] or like supporting when your favorite artists that kind of thing you know like the touring life the festivals are completely different yeah yeah so yeah I want to ask you guys like what do you enjoy about playing festivals I think secretly even though we sort of rage about

[00:21:06] we enjoy the chaos up here yeah like you've basically have 15 minutes yeah so get all your stuff that you would normally spend half a day sitting out right and getting ready and sound checks and sound imperfect you have literally 15 minutes to turn around from the last band to

[00:21:23] your band yeah and we sort of secretly enjoy that even though we run around looking like we're really angry okay we actually thought get excited by that right the other thing for us I think

[00:21:35] you never know who's going to show up to your stage you've got no one yes and that is always exciting especially on change of because everyone goes and watch us up in hell because then I'll

[00:21:45] just say it's like oh all the people have left yeah come back and when they come back it's brilliant yeah for me I'd say not just like playing obviously amazing but just see our racks yeah

[00:21:58] right so you're like networking networking yeah you see people you haven't seen in like five years yeah right yeah yeah that's kind of an a common theme for a lot of these uh yeah in two

[00:22:08] I've done is yeah people saying like exactly that catch up with friends yeah like you said and it not just bands right like people behind the scenes I'm sure promoters and photographers and yeah all sorts of people that you meet friendly podcasters you know all those good people

[00:22:22] definitely friendly front of my glasses yeah but asking people like what some of their favorite experiences have been like fondness memories of playing festivals what have you guys got I would say it's not actually playing for me as we played the Yager house at Red

[00:22:38] In Festival we didn't do leave just Red in about 20 15 20 16 and to get to the stage it's like one of the only stages outside the main arena but to get to it I drove in my two

[00:22:49] seat box all fan I just like the main gates like so main gates everyone going in with that Pee do these boso yeah yeah yeah thousands of people and like someone that's walked that walk many

[00:23:01] times yeah yeah as a fan was uh I was a very surreal weird experience but yeah yeah that aug pops out in my head show away I'm talking about you said favorite yeah yeah just anything

[00:23:13] that kind of stands out you was like a cool one stands out the one that stands out for me is we're not Jamie the lead singer lusty's voice right my favorite stage at lead festival

[00:23:25] and he couldn't sing and I was so gutted for him no I think we just turned like a timeamp up really loud and hope that everyone would know this because everyone was getting as like

[00:23:34] a child yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah and I have a good festival I think why not we've had good times there yeah yeah yeah like we played the new stage yeah 2019 here yeah yeah he like four times

[00:23:48] this is a real fortnight wow did the one way jack jack just up was a dinosaur yeah these are these that I in our record label need like four that's in the dinosaur plus two of course that was great

[00:23:59] uh over on that was when uh that was when our Jurassic Park was being like reep oh they were making just a little bit of a team done dressing yeah really open the stage on the other side of

[00:24:11] the forest that's hilarious oh it's great mine's actually not not playing but uh it was actually here 2010 yeah they have the in the men's urinals they have just had hay bales I don't know if

[00:24:21] it's still the same I haven't actually got to see one yet okay uh me and my friend walked in and there's a guy urinating and there's a guy just a sleep makes him on the hay bales

[00:24:31] and I'll never forget that guy what a hero amazing so yeah my final question for you and that it's my favorite question I ask because it gets really interesting every single time but

[00:24:46] if you as I have your very own festival I want to know what's the festival called or and who are your three headliners you can have anyone you like dead or alive oh we

[00:24:55] show you but it would probably be quite different yeah you can make it you can you click too yeah

[00:25:00] yeah yeah it will be like I'll pick one you picked it more no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no no

[00:25:05] you better have longer you know more artists it mine's always the same ones gone then I'd probably have nine inch nails because they never come and do festivals in oh yeah

[00:25:15] they're falling out with a biffy yeah not big it's yeah and I'd be good yeah and see I'd book them and feel like I'll pay you wherever you want but you have to actually pay the songs

[00:25:22] people like and not do something yes weird so yeah being where they play the music I was just for the fans which is great and I loved it but it's when you tell all your mates that are your

[00:25:31] favorite band and they play the music where it's really exciting I don't like this band now yeah that's because he's playing the weird stuff through Fire's Plan when a bago yeah I they're not my favorite band but they're the one band I always wanted to see them never

[00:25:47] got to is white stripes yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'd love to see it I'm not even that massive a fan I just like you'd be a little bit too hard

[00:25:56] it's my head yeah yeah yeah I agree that's a good one yeah do they have to be like big like head no no it could be whatever you like I mean from a totally different genre I'd have

[00:26:08] ocean wisdom ooooh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah but there's a thing I think thousand I'm actually a wisdom group we can actually the success level yeah but no this is what it's all about and honestly the answers are always a

[00:26:26] classic and that's why I love it I think it's great and yeah how about a name then so that's the naming any festival is indoor fest feels like an easy answer I feel like someone's like naming a band it's like oh yeah we're not naming that's already

[00:26:41] terrible yeah we bet what really name it festive look festive yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah lineup lineup I like it so I got I got nothing festive we're not the west you're right we need really

[00:26:59] oh uh if you might have to be you unless you got something it's gonna have to be back so I got nothing that's fine that's absolutely fine my favourite face come with you what was a

[00:27:12] mad up forgot his name there's a artist that just started it is maybe as own festival really yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[00:27:22] yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah wow okay i didn't know that i always got a bit stick fricks because it's all uh something to have a jean loads of money yeah okay

[00:27:29] like screw the man yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah like the man right but I still think what he's doing is the heart is in the right place sure yeah okay so I think the tickets are really cheap

[00:27:42] probably yeah yeah we dig a sea cheap yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah that's the best it's cool it's a festive festive yeah that also is a weird and wonderful answers i don't know what's your favourite so far

[00:27:56] we're favourite ooh um someone had a fun it with the guys from gala said uh there was there's a be called shut up i thought that was quite funny yeah yeah where because i was feeling maybe not now which is another blink one eight two songs

[00:28:10] oh yeah any blink one i'd do something a bit of a number of other things yeah also tiger escaped me sloth fest and it was like a good yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[00:28:19] i thought it was quite nice yeah well i'll have to go down yeah exactly yeah brilliant guys thank okay so we're gonna look at that one i'll see you next time hello BC Danny and Brett and welcome to the fundamentals podcast

[00:28:33] thanks everyone that's thanking you it's a good time cheers absolutely my pleasure guys and we're here in the swanky martial back for him as well yeah we just couldn't be quite quiet you know there's a martial sacrile martial amps yeah exactly yeah

[00:28:48] it's probably it's probably the nicest set up in the whole festival it is yeah yeah it is yeah yeah it is yeah martial martial martial oh my god i'm not a whole mirror

[00:28:59] is that how I get my sponsorship now so yeah that's a show in there thank you awesome so guys um i've been going back a little bit with bands and then a history at festival

[00:29:08] so i want to know if you guys what was the first festival that you guys went to as punters vans walked to a aladala vans love some of them yeah yeah i big day out big day out okay okay so what who was headloat of those

[00:29:21] oh i've seen butt boss stones and yeah friends or anyone's anyone's going to the same out that same tour would have been our first nice like first tour where it was like blinked what would do the major cities but when come to yeah yeah no and that's like

[00:29:38] the two stays y'all juggle like there's just wow to look at the post in now it's like i will be the paper at the skate park and that's all the bands yeah like i don't know

[00:29:49] yeah mega mega that's yeah no absolutely nobody itself yeah big dad is his uh i think there's Iggy pop it's not good right you stay okay uh you're not the first one to get to the

[00:30:00] cast right okay good the next time it'd be doubted you never money to do it and then pure quiz playing and rage against machine run after wow okay well after pure finish yeah i've not the gates because the York fans in light raging against machine i was

[00:30:16] wearing up fame into the house he did the summit salmon my way into the red against machine you're not the first person to tell me that they made it into a festival

[00:30:26] by less than legal means and yeah i think i was going to start getting a festival by i was walking around this festival called Spend and the Grass right um which now a book book is actually book that right that's Tom um but uh there's a water truck

[00:30:43] that we had to deliver you know water into the festival so then as it was going there so then we're about to open up the gates and i'm just back to the like keep going

[00:30:52] got on a walk into it but then the festival was an open so put the cleaners where there so i just started picking up rubbish that's all i can do it and half and time festival over and i was in that's awesome

[00:31:07] the other water truck guys like why is this kid never gating me i don't and they always pick it up rubbish that's what i do i love that you're just taking advantage of

[00:31:18] people's ignorance it's going oh i assume he knows what he's doing like he's in any show environment their confidence is key if you want to get somewhere that you shouldn't like yeah yeah for

[00:31:26] instance i give you all these fancy respans and stuff but a lot of time you don't even wear them and you just want to get a suity god trust a stop you just go yeah playing and they go okay

[00:31:34] yeah i swear if anyone wants to sneak into a festival and yeah get a van feeling with a bunch of equipment and drug addicts and you just f*** it's all right all right there we go

[00:31:48] sorry i'm sorry that's all right then you just go in and you get angry at them like you're gonna get to the stage and i'll go this way yeah and you get straight to the main stage just look

[00:31:57] like you belong yeah yeah i'm talking like you need to go to the toilet i'm gonna get in there really quick that's gonna be right yeah thanks really you have to be

[00:32:07] sure no one wants to see a grown man we have some yeah i just like yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah even more awkward yeah just like nope go through go through it's fine

[00:32:15] so yeah what about playing festivals what was the first festival you guys got booked out we got booked out of big day out we were nice i'm festival that is talking about yeah yeah

[00:32:24] yeah we got out there we went the radio station is shire is called triple day yes very little put on an up and coming band so we won the recent one kink isn't the lizard lizard run the Melbourne one wow this is like 12 third

[00:32:37] third as you see our careers have gone in the same yeah that's stopped at a point and they kept going they took the battenon rain all the songs we wrote for them they went corporate that's what it was yeah they went the earth like

[00:32:55] oh man that's awesome yeah i mean that has to be quite a cool thing i'm vaguely aware of that festival because i don't know if you guys are aware of this sort of well you were like the

[00:33:03] Australian podcasting scene do you know much of people in that space or yeah basically it is a chocledo go on if you've ever heard of that like Matt Stewart like he sort of comedians yeah basically

[00:33:13] one of them came on and um one of the hosts used to be a belief jess perkins used to be on triple j i think so yeah yeah yeah i've been listening to that and like chatting to those guys so yeah

[00:33:22] and vaguely aware of it yeah i give you a good one to listen to the go for a new Seth Lales podcast yeah that is a band who made like um like a a docky series but it's kind of like a spoof at the same

[00:33:35] time and they're terrific band they're funny and they have a podcast it's like she's taken out yeah i'd take it out because there's just a lot of pups what a great one yeah what a great

[00:33:43] pan what a great punk alright i'll put it in the show notes yeah yeah i sounds awesome thank you so something i've been exploring with everyone i've talked to is the appeal of playing at festivals

[00:33:53] because i think a lot of people understand you know been in a band going on the road and you're like joining your favorite artists on a tour that sort of thing but festivals are completely different right

[00:34:01] you know i'd say like festivals are like a massive um barbecue that you're seeing mates yeah you kind of like once you get into a festival surhead and it's a little bit of 15 minutes of

[00:34:15] fame you're like festivals and you'll see a lot of the same cuts and like yeah you know like and then you just end up meeting up like even in that little other scenario we've seen two of our

[00:34:27] mates from Australian dip bands called clowns and press club yes double you see playing at this festival then we saw the maps um who we've played with last time we're in Europe

[00:34:38] we saw the Tom Brogo guys we played yeah so it's kind of like one of those like high school reunions like yeah we told me you meet up there we're kind of the cousins that they all don't want to see oh jeanats

[00:34:51] yeah quick let's get them to do a podcast so they go away how did you know you're an email recording desire it's not even a real mic how about yourself Brett what was the case here's an what do you enjoy by playing at festivals

[00:35:11] pretty much exactly what Danny said he gets a roll in and there's like a lot less like rigmarol and stuff he played earlier like when do you ever gonna play a show like

[00:35:23] light avo and it's do be cranking yeah with all this work and off now it's kind of good to do you know enough to sound check you're not allowed to sound check either just because

[00:35:34] it's less effort and uh it's also good to play like you know if you're doing a tour and you just constantly playing headline shows yeah sorry that's alright okay yeah so yeah if you're gonna headline shows as well it's like you're playing to the people that know you

[00:35:55] every night yeah it's probably your 2000 chase comment play to a crowd where we had the people that knew us and we're like washing and stuff but then the most people going like yeah I saw

[00:36:09] as we come off stage with like walking and loading some gear in the van and it's two girls coming like yeah you guys were so like I was saying it in an endearing way okay yeah you guys really suck

[00:36:28] that was awesome thank you yeah absolutely it's yeah it's wild again it's the experiences people have here right and like you say that's something that's come up in almost every conversation

[00:36:40] is the idea of seeing your friends and like catching up with people yeah even in the last couple of weeks yeah we've had some really like dear friends at home who uh in the chats and cosmic

[00:36:51] cycles yeah we always just be looking for a time that we might cross each other's path have a beer or whatever it's just so hard to actually make it work but at a festival that is the chance

[00:37:03] like you know what I said it's fleeting as well like yeah six years of festivals in the Australia like splendour which isn't around as of this year anymore it's like 20 years and we kind

[00:37:14] of would say like I would compare to like musicians high school were unions like you're a second person one time yeah yeah yeah everyone gets to catch up and everyone yeah I don't

[00:37:29] have a direct exact expression earlier and I love that that's a really honest clip yeah there's no like trip of like um oh no like people going absolutely out of the stratosphere for

[00:37:41] actually friends in the island the sniffers who just crushed it around the world you catch up and like we just pick it back up where we left off last time it's no um there's no hierarchy you know

[00:37:52] like we just want everyone to succeed in their band and enjoy themselves it's actually cool back here there's there's not doesn't seem like there's any ego really going on no I got to say it's

[00:38:04] that has definitely been the impression I've got and like chatting to different people here and that yeah it seems like the barrier of sort of artists you know fan or person behind the state scenes this is almost like no existence which is really nice yeah some other places

[00:38:18] of it like I've been different but this sounds great hmm but yeah definitely in this area there's usually everyone checks here you go the door this has been like a uh so I guess funny

[00:38:29] good people watching what's in yeah but we're sunny's at night where was some sort of like book end of like we're going home tomorrow and like you know this one would be the final like

[00:38:40] who rock at up yes of course get sea friends and then and then we'll split tomorrow like yeah it's uh we've been looking forward to today and it's been fantastic I bet I bet I bet I guess my final

[00:38:52] question to you guys and it's been my favorite question to ask bands because I get some weird wonderful answers but if you were to put your own festival on I want to know what would you call

[00:39:02] the festival and who would your three dream headline as big they could be anyone you like that are alive who you picking I thought about this gone bloody bad at so the festival would be

[00:39:14] called on for young and old okay and you get a bunch of the old bands that are like you know staples that you've known since you're a kid in there all now yep yeah all the young up and come

[00:39:25] is that you know things maybe rock might go on a 20 years cycle yes yeah that's the young bands that grew up listening to the older bands is it hopefully young that's it on for young and

[00:39:36] old and like like when we toured with cosmic psychos yeah like cosmic psychos in the chat yes but then yeah I go get like I mean you know I could do the dream bigs bands in the world

[00:39:46] whatever yeah but like but it would probably just be that you'd have like cosmic psychos living and you know I don't know the older bands that love growing up and then then the younger

[00:39:59] like you know then check your chats and yeah and if you call like having older and younger people come together for the same I'm using just over different generations they're watching machine festival

[00:40:10] Sarah and just like oh yeah yeah yeah I agree oh agree and it also be cheers like you can sit down yeah people do you know yeah and give you a few years off I like that and yeah I like when people

[00:40:27] go to specific on the static and so it's cool awesome guys thank you so much for your time I cheers take it up and oh Frank and welcome to the fundamentals podcast thank you for having

[00:40:41] me how are you I'm very well this is a lovely way to start my day I must say and be as well good good yeah it's even quite busy this morning chatting so all sorts of people yes I have I've

[00:40:51] got brutally awakens and then got I've straightened press but it's nice I mean yeah I'm capable of talking about myself so lovely so I want to dive straight into the history of your festival going

[00:41:02] experiences right so I'd love to know what was the first festival that you went to running 1995 okay I was 13 years old my mum was really really against me going to see live music right she was of the opinion that gigs were just bikers and jetting each other with

[00:41:18] her own in the dark and I have been to gigs like that in my time but but but my best mates dad was taking her yeah so one day of running and it was a pretty life change experience for me because

[00:41:32] I got into alternative music have we want to put it I mean in this middle and then punk and then hardcore sure kind of on my own and this is an a pre-incent at age and you know I get records from

[00:41:43] local records or whatever and t-shirts and that but like I didn't really know anyone who liked the same kind of music as me and then I walked into running festival and there was for 50,000 people

[00:41:53] wearing band t-shirts and it was like I tried you know and genuinely felt like I wasn't alone kind of thing I don't want to say that though Frank I think that's something that appeals to a lot

[00:42:06] of people coming to festivals and exactly that it's the community it's especially as a teenager like you say yeah if you were to like an alternative scene I write the same way when I went to my

[00:42:15] first download and like 2015 it was like oh I'm not alone there are things actually that feel the same way there's a community here that like you know part of and that's very powerful as you

[00:42:25] absolutely so how about your first festival experience as an artist what was the first one you got to play out oh that's a good question actually my old band million dead made some festivals

[00:42:37] in the 2000s right I mean I struggled that's it you know what knows in the last bit of that question for really I mean before then I mean it depends on the festival really because I was

[00:42:48] in a battle need you it before then and yeah we played some like hardcore old days do I mean I mean 12 bands playing the one in 12 club in Bradford or something but it's not quite

[00:42:58] it's not in a field yes I remember playing a festival called Buckinsket outside redding in 2004 sounds interesting but I'm pretty sure that wasn't the first festival that we ever played

[00:43:08] sure sure I did the short answer as I'm not sure no that's fair enough I yeah again other bands have said similar things of like yeah you get the old days but like the big first

[00:43:18] time ones as yes I imagine that quite a few as well the first the first kind of big festival I played ready ready oh yeah 2000 wedding and leads actually a lot we played leads in only in 2004

[00:43:30] so the first big festival I played lovely I must be quite a nice and like four circle moment for you yeah yeah definitely I mean redding in particular is home turf for me to know I mean I mean

[00:43:42] didn't I say that we played last year and we were a little bit like the ghost of redding past it changed a lot which is legit that's what festivals yeah yeah yeah but it was a little kind of like

[00:43:51] wow this is one running used to be like everyone kind of hang on yeah so so something like been exploring with artists in my conversations is what the appeal is of playing festivals because I

[00:44:02] think a lot people listening can understand going on a tour you know well I even taught and with a band that you love right and having that experience and traveling team places so forth

[00:44:10] but yeah I wonder what it's like for you what it is that you enjoy about playing festivals specifically I mean two things first of all from the former point of view festivals a bit like speed dating

[00:44:22] like everybody in the audience you know they're seeing nine other bands minimum that day yeah yeah so which is great and like you know people come and check you out who might not be ready to buy a ticket for

[00:44:32] your show yeah yeah you are you are kind of trying to make an impression you know I mean generally you play quite unquote the hits you know and you don't probably not the time for the experimental eight minute jam sessions but you know it's fun on that

[00:44:49] level the other thing that I think it is important to me is that as somebody like my my tribe my community that I identify with if you like is effectively touring people it's not geographically based it's occupation based you know like the thing about that is that

[00:45:06] you know you might tour with a band make best friends but then you're both touring bands and then you don't see so that very often be sure we live a festival so for example yeah

[00:45:13] I'm going to see the guys from Miga the Devil which I'm really stoked about because I've just did a US tour with them and they became really close friends of ours and I'm really happy

[00:45:21] that I'll get to hang out with them for a bit today so you know there's definitely there is a social angle too as well yeah yeah again that's something that's come up quite a few

[00:45:29] times in my conversations with people yeah the community and yeah catching up with friends and as being able to play to newer audiences yeah definitely you know I mean certainly coming up for me

[00:45:39] the festival circuit as it were was very important in terms of building my audience yeah and I imagine it's one of those things you can kind of see it grow right like every time you come back

[00:45:48] you get a higher higher up and a little there's a festival in Germany called Hurricane Festival which we did two through four years in a row in like so 2008 nine ten round there and like um there was definitely a

[00:45:59] thing where like the first year we have like 500 people exactly we had like 10,000 people that was like oh yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah you can see a return see a

[00:46:10] grow before your eyes that's awesome so I'd love to know Frank what have been some of your favorite experiences at festivals um I mean I've done so many at this point my life I mean in fact it's been

[00:46:22] a long time since I just went to a festival as a panta yeah yeah because I'm usually so busy with them um one of my favorite festival experience in 2010 I played I played a wedding and later

[00:46:39] that I played on the main stage in the middle of the afternoon and later that day no I've actually had lying in the pump stage that they used to have a wedding yes and that was the first

[00:46:46] summer met in our festival and I ended up getting up and playing a song with them on guitar brilliant and which festival was it hugely meaningful to me because that one of my favorite

[00:46:53] fans all time but also that's why we made each other and we've since become really good friends so that was that was a pretty magic date I bet my final question before you're trying is

[00:47:04] if you were to have your own festival I'd love to know first of all what would you call the festival and who would your three dream headlines be? Dad or alive have any well I could kind of do have

[00:47:13] my festival it's for a lot of evenings we do every year in a different city this year's in Toronto last year was in Los Angeles next year is in a place that I'm gonna announce later okay all right

[00:47:23] if we dump our land we've done London we've moved around a world with it awesome and I mean I had lying all four days so it's on me it's just not so interesting no but it's cool because I get to

[00:47:34] pick the bill to know I mean yeah this year we have who do we have we have we have heavy rollins playing this year which wow very excited about you know last year we had Pedro

[00:47:46] Lyon who's one of my all time remember artists yeah we had the week at Anz we've had the whole steady we've had Brian Rabbit you know London fans that I love have played at my festival

[00:47:54] I've also just number seven this year so you know it's not quite in a field you know I mean but it's yeah lost to you being stressful awesome brilliant love yeah thank you so much thank you

[00:48:05] for that appreciate it thank you a massive thank you there to the 900 indoor pets doing rats and of course Frank Turner thank you all so much for giving me your time at the festival

[00:48:16] I really enjoyed talking with you guys I could not be happier with the interviews if you're listening to this episode and you'd like to learn more about each artist then please head into

[00:48:25] the show notes I've left links we can find out more about every single band that I spoke to today you can learn about their music when they're on tour their social media pages all that

[00:48:34] good stuff it's all links in the show notes feed to check out I'd also like to give a massive thank you to the following people who helped make these interviews possible thank you to Matty Wu

[00:48:43] at pistol management for helping with June rats thank you to Lee Jackson at the wall of sound for helping out with indoor pets and to Trace dead for helping out with the Frank Turner interview

[00:48:54] also a massive thank you to Haley Holly and Matt from the good as goal group for helping out with the festival as a whole again without those guys these interviews would never have happened

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