Sitcom September - Bob's Burgers with Russell Baily (Not Just for Kids Podcast)

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[00:00:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Hello and welcome to another episode of Sitcom September

[00:00:44] [SPEAKER_07]: In this episode, I'm joined by a returning guest for the podcast, host and creator of the fantastic Not Just for Kids Podcast

[00:00:53] [SPEAKER_07]: It is of course Russell Baily

[00:00:56] [SPEAKER_07]: Russell has returned to the podcast with an absolutely awesome show to discuss in this season of Sitcom September

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER_07]: It is Bob's Burgers

[00:01:06] [SPEAKER_07]: This has to be one of my favorite discoveries of the last few years

[00:01:10] [SPEAKER_07]: It's a show that offers so much to its viewers from its heart, to its silly puns, incredible songs, lovable characters and so much more

[00:01:19] [SPEAKER_07]: I was absolutely delighted to be able to talk about this show with one of my favorite returning guests of the podcast

[00:01:25] [SPEAKER_07]: It's just brilliant if you haven't seen Bob's Burgers yet, the yourself for favor and change that

[00:01:30] [SPEAKER_07]: As we discuss in the episode, it is available on the streaming platform owned by the Big Bad Mouse

[00:01:35] [SPEAKER_07]: So make sure you go and check it out after this

[00:01:38] [SPEAKER_07]: It is well worth your time

[00:01:40] [SPEAKER_07]: Speaking of things that are worth your time, you should absolutely go and check out Russell's Awesome podcast

[00:01:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I've left links in the show notes we can do that after this episode

[00:01:47] [SPEAKER_07]: And of course we can find Russell on social media and all that good stuff

[00:01:52] [SPEAKER_07]: Right, that's enough from me, let's just get to the episode

[00:01:55] [SPEAKER_07]: This is Bob's Burgers with Russell Baily

[00:02:08] [SPEAKER_07]: Hello Russell and welcome back to the fundamentals podcast

[00:02:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Hello, hello, thank you for coming back on and very excited to be back on, talking about amazing subjects today

[00:02:19] [SPEAKER_07]: Hmm, I was thinking about it earlier. I was like, I'm sure Russell's probably up there with one of the guests that I've had on the most

[00:02:27] [SPEAKER_07]: Because what would this be now in your appearance? I'm just trying to think this is your

[00:02:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Orp episode, I think dedicated

[00:02:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Did a black book, yeah, I did not draw a future armor that's right. So second anime shows. There we go

[00:02:42] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, okay, my little house

[00:02:45] [SPEAKER_07]: And there's this oh and you were on my star was special. Yes, that's what it was saying

[00:02:49] [SPEAKER_07]: You've been here five times which is yeah, I think there's very few that have done that

[00:02:54] [SPEAKER_07]: In the final sclove of podcast appearances. Yes, there it is

[00:03:00] [SPEAKER_07]: Ah, brilliant. Yeah, it's lovely to see my friend. How are you since we last spoke? I am good

[00:03:06] [SPEAKER_07]: I

[00:03:08] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, it's currently there's some school holidays and I've been away and in corner which is lovely and I am in podcasting terms

[00:03:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I've just wrapped up my mononemation series, which was long and I brought it and I don't think I quite got everyone to that because

[00:03:25] [SPEAKER_08]: One animation is just fascinating and kind of the six-glaternall and talent everywhere

[00:03:30] [SPEAKER_08]: So it's kind of like that's a podcast itself is like the last 10, 15 years of animation

[00:03:37] [SPEAKER_08]: And then I'm now going to go off and talk about teen cinema and coming to age movies because I love them

[00:03:44] [SPEAKER_08]: I think they are some of my favorite movies are like coming to age

[00:03:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I think that's what it speaks to me like

[00:03:56] [SPEAKER_08]: You're taking side out too is that and I was getting very emotional in the second half and so down to because I'm like

[00:04:00] [SPEAKER_08]: This is speaking to me the way they did not expect well done Pixar

[00:04:04] [SPEAKER_07]: Nice, I've yet to see it. I really wanted to get around to it

[00:04:07] [SPEAKER_07]: But as soon as it's on Disney plus I know I'm going to be watching that and yeah probably probably in floods of tears

[00:04:13] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm gonna just be honest that's gonna happen

[00:04:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, happens as is the Pixar way

[00:04:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's kind of how you have to rate these movies now as in it is like how hard did I cry

[00:04:25] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, was it actually that good?

[00:04:27] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I think there's only one Pixar film that I've not cried out recently and that was like yeah, that was a very different Pixar film

[00:04:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, yeah, yeah, all the rest make me cry. I'm like why is this speaking to me?

[00:04:37] [SPEAKER_08]: I think I have a minor mention my parents what's going on here

[00:04:40] [SPEAKER_08]: Let's not again this box that's just crying to me

[00:04:44] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't have ever shared this on the podcast, but I think I will

[00:04:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Fun fact my old therapist genuinely recommended inside out as homework

[00:04:54] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean it's entertaining homework, but also

[00:04:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I knew exactly what he was getting at

[00:05:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I can't unpack why cry at the exact same point in inside out every single time like it's always when you're

[00:05:07] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm just really excited about it. I think that's a very good idea of saying that she can't feel happy at that point in time

[00:05:11] [SPEAKER_08]: And I'm like, yeah crying and my daughter was looking kind of strangely and like you'll learn that at some point you can't feel happy all the time

[00:05:17] [SPEAKER_08]: You'll come to you probably the next two years going to come to me and have you turn realisation

[00:05:21] [SPEAKER_08]: I look forward to that. This is why I'm upset

[00:05:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, yeah, now as I knew exactly what he was getting at and yeah, I'm the same

[00:05:28] [SPEAKER_07]: It was that exact moment

[00:05:30] [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, that was fun

[00:05:33] [SPEAKER_07]: Anyway

[00:05:34] [SPEAKER_07]: But maybe we'll get on to crying for get to this series who knows it'll tease for you

[00:05:39] [SPEAKER_07]: But yes, we're here to talk about what of my absolute favorite anime shows I'm

[00:05:45] [SPEAKER_07]: Clashing it as a sitcom because it's my podcast and I can do whatever I want so here

[00:05:49] [SPEAKER_07]: We are Russell what was your introduction to Bob's burgers? I want to know what's your story with this show

[00:05:55] [SPEAKER_08]: So I came to Bob's burgers later than I think a lot of people I came to Bob's burgers because I got Disney plus during the pandemic

[00:06:03] [SPEAKER_08]: Before this point, I was aware of the show. I'd seen snippets of it and I hadn't ever jailed any of these stuff I'd seen

[00:06:09] [SPEAKER_08]: I think as I showed you if you see for brief moments you kind of go, oh, I don't know the animation style

[00:06:14] [SPEAKER_08]: Oh, this looks like family guy but not and then I go

[00:06:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Disney plus and I found ample free time as we all had and I sat on the light just kind of watched it

[00:06:24] [SPEAKER_08]: And I'd pinch it all very quickly because I immediately got that it wasn't

[00:06:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Family guy and it wasn't trying to be family guy that it's a lot

[00:06:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Deeper sweeter

[00:06:36] [SPEAKER_08]: I love as it's sitcom like it's not a sketchy like

[00:06:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Show there's not any flashbacks not any kind of like tangents and the comedy is all this kind of like

[00:06:48] [SPEAKER_08]: Sitcom like jokes these amazing characters family in the middle of it. But I just instantly wanted to and also a real house that

[00:06:54] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, so I wanted to be something else. I was probably Bob in myself

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER_08]: Watching here by like this character kind of speaks me the way that not a lot of characters do

[00:07:06] [SPEAKER_08]: Fine, oh week we're gonna unpack that in you. Oh

[00:07:10] [SPEAKER_08]: So yeah, so this is because of Disney plus coming to the UK

[00:07:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm just having all the seasons there and then I saw the film and I was like I love the film

[00:07:19] [SPEAKER_08]: We're watching it and it's afternoon in preparation for this and it's just that kind of like

[00:07:24] [SPEAKER_08]: Recent emotional attachment I have to this quite strong. It's it's quite recent

[00:07:30] [SPEAKER_07]: That's brilliant man. I tell you I was kind of similar. I think because it was on prime

[00:07:35] [SPEAKER_07]: As well at some point and yeah, same as you man very late to the game very like I don't know about this and I kept hearing about it

[00:07:44] [SPEAKER_07]: And I thought like you've locked down thing of like yeah, okay, I'll give it a go and and then within like a few episodes

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER_07]: I was absolutely hooked and the same as you and it might sort of hot take on this show

[00:07:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't know where you land on this but I when I'm pitching this to other people

[00:07:59] [SPEAKER_07]: I say it's what the Simpsons used to be but it's still good like it's like 14 15 seasons in and it's still good like series two to nine of the Simpsons

[00:08:09] [SPEAKER_08]: This is what this is in terms of that kind of yes roster of supporting characters that are

[00:08:15] [SPEAKER_08]: Dearing and strange and sometimes it will focus on them and make them a bit more rounded

[00:08:21] [SPEAKER_08]: But how a family that it's core and the Avengers never quite go so far out of like peripheral of reality

[00:08:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Yes, early Simpsons is that to me like the first

[00:08:32] [SPEAKER_08]: The first nine seasons of Simpsons are unimpeachably great. I love them and they kind of like tail of quite dramatically after that

[00:08:39] [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's when Matt Grayney and left and went to work on future armor

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER_08]: And if anything you could probably skip the first series of this coming at series two

[00:08:50] [SPEAKER_08]: So first series it for me feels kind of like is finding its feet. It's kind of having to find its way as a fox animation

[00:08:57] [SPEAKER_08]: Like a fox animation which at the time were a lot of shows like family guy

[00:09:03] [SPEAKER_08]: And I have a portion of my team like when I was a student, I think I watched a lot of family guy

[00:09:08] [SPEAKER_08]: And then I kind of grew out of it and now I look at having kind of cringe away from it because it hasn't moved on at all from where I was at that point

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER_08]: Where is this fills? I just say more like the Simpsons back when the Simpsons was

[00:09:23] [SPEAKER_08]: One of the greatest TV shows have ever made and now that's not the Simpsons doing watch later Simpsons. It's never

[00:09:29] [SPEAKER_08]: It's never gets back to that point, but that yeah that wrong. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

[00:09:35] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't agree. I totally agree and yeah, I just I find it wild because as you say, I think that's kind of a thing that happens to a lot of shows right is

[00:09:42] [SPEAKER_07]: If it goes on especially when you hit sort of doubled digits in terms of seasons

[00:09:47] [SPEAKER_07]: It can be really tricky to keep the same consistency. It's usually when you start to have a bit of a wobble

[00:09:54] [SPEAKER_07]: And like you say people can leave and things can change and you kind of just lose interest as an audience

[00:10:01] [SPEAKER_07]: Whereas I'm still amazed again that this is like but just jumbled double check myself 15 seasons and a movie

[00:10:07] [SPEAKER_08]: And it's still going strong, you know these are seasons that are like 20 odd episodes. It's not even like

[00:10:14] [SPEAKER_08]: UK sitcoms which are sort of six episodes

[00:10:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I rewatch all of Friday night dinner the other week like for like a night

[00:10:23] [SPEAKER_08]: My partner watch one of the tips so tonight and even that by the end as much. I love how Friday night dinner end the last series

[00:10:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Things are getting bigger and slightly more outlandish than it was before and that's like far few episodes then you'll get an American sitcom

[00:10:37] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, the American sitcom being like 20 free 24 episodes sometimes a series like half a year's worth of TV every year is insane to me

[00:10:50] [SPEAKER_07]: I know yeah, I totally agree and it's definitely that thing of

[00:10:55] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, sometimes you prefer quality over quantity right but I love about the show is that it manages to do both which again is a really hard thing to do and

[00:11:04] [SPEAKER_07]: It never feels like they're phoning anything in which I'm constantly amazed by like even watching the latest season

[00:11:10] [SPEAKER_07]: Me and my wife watching your both just like it's still great. Yeah, like it's still hilarious. It's still brilliant. It feels like it's really found its rhythm

[00:11:18] [SPEAKER_07]: And it sort of does these amazing things like what one thing I love about it is it manages to do the thing that I think bugs a lot of people about the Simpsons now, which is that you know, it's 30 years on and the kids have an age

[00:11:30] [SPEAKER_07]: Obstburgers managed that over 14 years and they've maybe aged one or two years

[00:11:35] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, and like I was struck many of the day and I was watching an episode. I'm like

[00:11:39] [SPEAKER_07]: This is like the 14th Christmas episode and they're still the same age and I haven't noticed

[00:11:46] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm going to do Frank's giving Halloween Christmas every single series and yeah, yeah, but you haven't noticed right like or it doesn't it doesn't seem to bother you. It's kind of like yeah

[00:11:56] [SPEAKER_07]: That's fine. I'm okay with this because it's still great. It's still funny

[00:12:00] [SPEAKER_07]: And yeah, I just I find that absolutely remarkable and in terms of its styling as well

[00:12:05] [SPEAKER_07]: I think there's something very unique about this show. Like one thing again

[00:12:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I think is really solid and I'm sure you have a great appreciation for this given your podcast is the amount of pop culture references that are in this show

[00:12:17] [SPEAKER_07]: Yeah, but how they're done in such a creative and inventful way and it never feels like it's kind of just hitting you over the head with a reference like it's always done in kind of a very loving homage right

[00:12:29] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I like going back to like the initial one of the Simpsons

[00:12:33] [SPEAKER_08]: Hmm is packed further that similar kind of appreciation of cinema, but it's not cinema of the moment

[00:12:39] [SPEAKER_08]: It's not whatever it is right and that particular year the popular thing it'll be like there's an episode of Bob Spurgers

[00:12:46] [SPEAKER_08]: Which goes back to Robo Cop which is a film from the 80s. Yes, so the references I think where they work is because there's like a hundred over 100s of cinema cinematic history to draw off of

[00:12:57] [SPEAKER_08]: If you're just referencing like I don't know Deadpool and Wolverine or Barbie whatever it is whatever is the flavor of the month

[00:13:06] [SPEAKER_08]: When I come to it in five years time, I'm probably going to cringe at it. I'm going to cringe away from it. Yes, where is yeah yeah like having

[00:13:13] [SPEAKER_08]: Some, some little sit-comes animation. It's what there was some really great stuff throughout a lot of American companies do this quite well

[00:13:21] [SPEAKER_08]: But having it so that it's kind of appreciation of a total cinema is a post just

[00:13:26] [SPEAKER_08]: Yeah, I guess what you would call the stuff that he's on Netflix. Like, is Netflix famous the once you get past like 2,000

[00:13:34] [SPEAKER_08]: Drops often in terms of the films they cover outside the 2000s onwards. Yeah, so yeah, I think that's why it works me as because

[00:13:42] [SPEAKER_08]: There are references, there are times they can do entire parodies of films or a film

[00:13:47] [SPEAKER_08]: styles. Like there's a Western one at one point but it's never linking into a specific film

[00:13:53] [SPEAKER_08]: of the moment it's always kind of yeah if it's a specific film it's a film from different

[00:13:58] [SPEAKER_08]: era and that means the film feels more timeless because it'll be a film that has

[00:14:03] [SPEAKER_08]: grown in statues since it's been released like you can't really tell you guys a film

[00:14:08] [SPEAKER_08]: lover you can't really tell what films are going to be the films or come back to

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER_08]: in 10 years time and say this is the film of that era. True, very true yeah I mean just off

[00:14:17] [SPEAKER_07]: top my head I can think some of the ones that stood out to me and I was just going

[00:14:21] [SPEAKER_07]: I love every second of this is them doing there's an episode where they do a

[00:14:26] [SPEAKER_07]: joule's parody which is brilliant. There's an episode where they do a reference to Blade Runner

[00:14:31] [SPEAKER_07]: which I'm like brilliant love that there's an episode where they do a reference to midsummer

[00:14:35] [SPEAKER_07]: and there's an episode which is probably one of the more recent ones yeah and they do an episode

[00:14:39] [SPEAKER_07]: where they do a reference to my neighbor total. And it's like let's get episode and that yeah those

[00:14:45] [SPEAKER_07]: are all just examples of just random like completely random completely different genres but as you

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER_07]: say like timeless yeah like given enough space I'm like certain the western one as well I saw

[00:14:55] [SPEAKER_08]: that recently loved that and again some of his modern but I also think yeah I don't love the film

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER_08]: but I can acknowledge that midsummer has this feel to it that it maybe makes it help and

[00:15:06] [SPEAKER_08]: maybe makes it kind of like stand out from other films that are without that period like

[00:15:10] [SPEAKER_07]: oh you could argue maybe with your man as well like it's a blend of the two right but yeah I

[00:15:15] [SPEAKER_07]: agree and it's fascinating isn't it again that they go across all these different genres

[00:15:19] [SPEAKER_07]: but I don't know about you Russell I felt like every single time it did it it did it perfectly

[00:15:25] [SPEAKER_07]: you know like the fact that there's a scene it lives in my head rent free where they do the end of

[00:15:30] [SPEAKER_07]: yours yeah well there's like a mechanical shock and it's it's Teddy is basically quint in that moment

[00:15:39] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's so stupid and it's so random but it's very funny and again it's the loving and

[00:15:44] [SPEAKER_07]: margin it's like they've got this they figure out how to nail this and like you say pick you on a

[00:15:49] [SPEAKER_07]: movie like that as a great example because it's like yeah that's the time this classic and everyone

[00:15:53] [SPEAKER_07]: is big enough so you can take the you can take the make-and-dribus like um yeah and that

[00:15:58] [SPEAKER_08]: is great like the references aren't as simple as kind of like a cutaway to Bob dressed as neofo

[00:16:05] [SPEAKER_08]: from the matrix it's kind of like bleeds in the story and like that my neighbour Toto stuff is like

[00:16:10] [SPEAKER_08]: a fantasy of bobs in his head and it's due of his love of his turkey and that's kind of like

[00:16:15] [SPEAKER_08]: just like because of feed into characters that are and their traits the references and like Teddy

[00:16:20] [SPEAKER_08]: is this anxious anxious man and so having him have one of your experiences this kind of like

[00:16:27] [SPEAKER_08]: mechanical shock is then brought into the plot and then it becomes like this like fret of a level

[00:16:33] [SPEAKER_08]: of like the shark and jaws it's kind of feeding in nicely to it so yeah agree yeah yeah and like

[00:16:41] [SPEAKER_07]: all the ones where it tends to be more adult fairs like the Westons or I think they even do no

[00:16:45] [SPEAKER_07]: country for old men and it's like but it's Louise she always seems to pick on those movies like

[00:16:50] [SPEAKER_07]: they're really hard quite I think she even does like a predator references and it's she always

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER_07]: does like that are rated 18 plus films and it's like a nice running gag of throughout the whole show

[00:16:59] [SPEAKER_07]: where like she's referencing these stories and then Bob's like if you're seeing that movie she's

[00:17:04] [SPEAKER_07]: like no and then continues to tell a story about Robo Cobb and you're like brilliant that's just

[00:17:08] [SPEAKER_07]: but again it's a nice way of like layering it into the stories you say in the characters

[00:17:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and everything I like is that cinemise use to bond the characters at different points to

[00:17:18] [SPEAKER_08]: genie games and this western show called Bandit which is a lot like the western shows of

[00:17:24] [SPEAKER_08]: sort of the 6 and 7 teas and then Louise and Bob bond over I forget the name of the Japanese

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER_08]: samurai show but it's Japanese always showing that pleads into the things and it's it's more

[00:17:36] [SPEAKER_08]: than just kind of name checking films which is kind of the base level kind of reference and

[00:17:43] [SPEAKER_08]: you do this is like no great something that's a lot like that's like like a lone wolf and samurai

[00:17:50] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of show yes well if it's animal from cub is the name of the show that it's it's parading

[00:17:55] [SPEAKER_08]: and then they kind of believe that into narrative and they kind of make it the thing about Bob's

[00:18:02] [SPEAKER_08]: burgers and you said you alluded to that we might talk about crying is that it is it's much more

[00:18:08] [SPEAKER_08]: rich than all of its peers like it's a long of emotional death for these characters you've

[00:18:14] [SPEAKER_08]: followed for 14 15 seasons for about 270 odd episodes and so it's very comfortable to kind of

[00:18:23] [SPEAKER_08]: be emotionally impactful and kind of let jokes fall away and have an impact whereas

[00:18:30] [SPEAKER_08]: a less confident show might not do that they might choose to keep it as as a joke and kind of

[00:18:38] [SPEAKER_07]: go with the punchline yeah I completely agree with that yeah so I know I had a quick google

[00:18:44] [SPEAKER_07]: so yeah I think the show was called Hawking check which yeah make sense of it's like a yeah

[00:18:48] [SPEAKER_07]: wolf wolf and cub parody that's again genius very very funny but yeah I love what you're saying

[00:18:54] [SPEAKER_07]: and um I don't know about you Russell kind of jumping around a bit but on the the thread of

[00:18:59] [SPEAKER_07]: emotional weight I really felt that especially in the movie yeah I don't know about you like

[00:19:04] [SPEAKER_07]: that to me I I found myself getting misty I'd in the cinema and I was like what's going on

[00:19:10] [SPEAKER_07]: and then I realized I was like oh this this is really pausing and I realized it was because

[00:19:16] [SPEAKER_07]: it took a moment to touch on Bob's mum which is a subject that is very very rarely spoken about

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER_07]: the whole show like she's it's evident that she passed away when Bob was a kid at some point

[00:19:31] [SPEAKER_07]: he never talks about it because that's the kind of character he is and like you know the episode

[00:19:36] [SPEAKER_07]: where his dad shows up it's evident that they have a very strange relationship it's very funny

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah to say the least right but yeah and I felt like the movie sort of addresses that and it

[00:19:46] [SPEAKER_07]: plays with that and it kind of brings in Louise who is probably one of my I don't know when it

[00:19:53] [SPEAKER_07]: comes to favorite characters the kids just pick a day honestly I could tell you it's it all three

[00:19:58] [SPEAKER_07]: of them I love equally I think but yeah it's just moments like that we are watching the film and

[00:20:02] [SPEAKER_07]: you go like you said really smart that it just kind of pauses and slows down and lets you feel the

[00:20:08] [SPEAKER_07]: weight of it and brings you in and like oh that's genius it's something that's been discussed

[00:20:13] [SPEAKER_07]: on almost every episode actually of the sitcoms that I've done which there are a lot of folks

[00:20:18] [SPEAKER_07]: but like the mark of a fruity great sitcom and show is when it has those moments where

[00:20:23] [SPEAKER_07]: it just pauses and goes and here's an emotional sledgehammer and it just hits you out I know

[00:20:28] [SPEAKER_08]: where but yeah and it works and it likes me on burgers perfect we talked about on future

[00:20:34] [SPEAKER_08]: armor that there are a couple of episodes that are emotionally terrible and I think it's something

[00:20:39] [SPEAKER_08]: that Bob Spurger says developed into I think it's something as it has continued and survived

[00:20:46] [SPEAKER_08]: it's kind of got the confidence to have these moments like the three most impact flip so

[00:20:52] [SPEAKER_08]: have been quite recent ones there's one where it's a near Christmas special and all three

[00:20:58] [SPEAKER_08]: of the children have kind of these Christmas performances so Louise has this poem oh yeah

[00:21:07] [SPEAKER_08]: James playing in a band and Tina is being the star and like this nativity thing and there's a bit

[00:21:15] [SPEAKER_08]: when Louise reads her poem and it's revealed that over the course they

[00:21:20] [SPEAKER_08]: discovered that Louise's not submitted to joke poem she submitted a sincere poem

[00:21:24] [SPEAKER_08]: but her love for her family and it's just even now I film it's a very emotional

[00:21:27] [SPEAKER_08]: thinking about this moment where you've got Jean and his band playing music because he has

[00:21:32] [SPEAKER_08]: sorted out there but they're key to play and it's like Zyla phones playing in like your sounds

[00:21:40] [SPEAKER_08]: tape and then she's reading out this poem Kristen schools acting or voice acting I

[00:21:45] [SPEAKER_08]: can only kind of acting is wonderful like she has great comedic presence but she kind of

[00:21:49] [SPEAKER_08]: again removes the joke and she is sincere about it yeah and yeah uh the other one is another

[00:21:56] [SPEAKER_08]: Louise when Louise is doing a presentation on a meter air heart yes like exploring the idea of

[00:22:04] [SPEAKER_08]: someone being great in spite of the fact that they don't achieve their end goal like

[00:22:09] [SPEAKER_08]: um you learn that she learns it immediately how I obviously disappeared I was seeing so it's kind of like

[00:22:15] [SPEAKER_08]: her dealing with that idea and then doing this amazing bit of shadow puppetry art in front

[00:22:22] [SPEAKER_08]: of her class and it's it I think Louise is probably the smartest character in this show but

[00:22:28] [SPEAKER_08]: also the one who's least willing to fully embrace that like I think she's much more comfortable

[00:22:34] [SPEAKER_08]: not and so when she is sincere when she is smart it's different and the other one is

[00:22:41] [SPEAKER_08]: is it regular sized Rudy yeah and yeah it pulls away from the family for most of the episode

[00:22:48] [SPEAKER_08]: and we just follow his him having a to have a dinner with his divorced parents and it's that kind

[00:22:54] [SPEAKER_08]: of like really quite a sad look at this child's life which is a terrible bit it's just

[00:23:03] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of impacted by the fact that his parents divorced he has to manage that kind of emotional

[00:23:09] [SPEAKER_08]: impact in him so yeah there's but those just for you that I have watched quite recently and

[00:23:14] [SPEAKER_08]: I've been like oh you're quite confident at making me cry now well done yeah do I completely agree

[00:23:20] [SPEAKER_07]: and again it's that thing when it blinds eyes you and yeah great choices my because I would agree

[00:23:25] [SPEAKER_07]: like all three of those I felt the same way like all three I was like oh no this one's gonna get me

[00:23:32] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah yeah like the I think the amazing Rudy episode yeah like you say with the way that started

[00:23:37] [SPEAKER_07]: I was just like oh no I know this is going yeah it's like I'm gonna be really sad now but

[00:23:43] [SPEAKER_07]: but great and like you said very smart to kind of do it and it handles those things in such an

[00:23:48] [SPEAKER_07]: interesting way and yeah like you said it's just good writing is nice it's just that thing

[00:23:54] [SPEAKER_07]: of telling a story but telling it well and having a point and especially the ones like you said

[00:23:59] [SPEAKER_07]: ones where you get to see it through the kids eyes I think there's always something about that

[00:24:02] [SPEAKER_07]: almost going back to the whole Pixar thing right of like seeing the world learning a lesson through

[00:24:07] [SPEAKER_07]: a child's eyes hits you really hard I think especially as an adult was whether you're a parent or

[00:24:13] [SPEAKER_07]: not like you can just you know it was go back in time can't you and be like oh yeah I remember those moments

[00:24:18] [SPEAKER_07]: you know or even like being oh I never thought about it that way oh no I don't know definitely like

[00:24:23] [SPEAKER_08]: bits of my childhood that had etched on me then I go back to like I mean that was a moment wasn't it

[00:24:28] [SPEAKER_07]: that's that shaped me yeah so when you see like a little cartoon character going through it

[00:24:33] [SPEAKER_07]: it's just like oh oh you struck a chord yeah oh no but it's just great no the thing about all these

[00:24:40] [SPEAKER_08]: characters is it big even I doesn't really move in time I think it's probably moved about

[00:24:45] [SPEAKER_08]: year and a half to two years in the time that we've watched it the characters I've been allowed

[00:24:50] [SPEAKER_08]: to get deeper and more nuanced and more complicated and more interesting like I think initially they're

[00:24:55] [SPEAKER_08]: quite types so like Louise it's insane and a psycho and that's funny because she's a short

[00:25:03] [SPEAKER_08]: child of funny years genus is of cestra music and incorporating inappropriate sounds into his music

[00:25:12] [SPEAKER_08]: and that's yeah fine and then Tina's got all the weird kind of like horses and zombies and she

[00:25:19] [SPEAKER_08]: likes bums and all the stuff yeah and then they kind of like take that starting point and then

[00:25:26] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of expand off into all these different directions for them they get they're allowed to have

[00:25:31] [SPEAKER_08]: relationships with people that begin an end they're allowed to have a constant well they won't

[00:25:37] [SPEAKER_08]: they boyfriend gets deeper and and strangers it goes on and in the case of Louise they're allowed

[00:25:44] [SPEAKER_08]: to be sweet and endearing but also in themselves not love at their sweet and daring like fighting

[00:25:50] [SPEAKER_08]: themselves for their kind of like sincere moments which is is also kind of speaks to me I'll

[00:25:57] [SPEAKER_08]: be honest kind of speaks to me I'm somebody who was trying go away from the sincere moment so

[00:26:03] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah to have this like small child character kind of speaks to me that we're going to like oh okay

[00:26:07] [SPEAKER_07]: this is very good very well done I feel similar yeah I think it's one of those things isn't it

[00:26:13] [SPEAKER_07]: when you watch a show and eat something about a certain character grabs you I agree yeah and again

[00:26:17] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah Louise is a great example that I think that's why she may be my favorite but again I do love

[00:26:22] [SPEAKER_07]: the other kids like because they have their moments like as a music lover Jean speaks to me because

[00:26:27] [SPEAKER_07]: you know he just there's episodes where he suddenly gets quite deep and you know has like those

[00:26:32] [SPEAKER_07]: I think again in the movie he kind of has this existential dread of like you know well I ever

[00:26:36] [SPEAKER_07]: be good enough as a performer and I think you know as creatives right I think we all feel that real just

[00:26:43] [SPEAKER_07]: oh oh you've got me oh no but I get better again like he learns those lessons of like just

[00:26:49] [SPEAKER_07]: embracing your voice and having fun and doing all that stuff and in a way that's just really sweet

[00:26:54] [SPEAKER_07]: and endearing also Jean has hands down the best one liners in the show like they just give

[00:26:59] [SPEAKER_07]: him those wonderful moments where he just he'll just cut the tension in the room which is saying

[00:27:04] [SPEAKER_07]: something really weirdly inappropriate but also like laugh out loud hilarious I just love that about

[00:27:10] [SPEAKER_02]: nothing is happening to you Lynn because this sort of thing isn't real it was just too small

[00:27:15] [SPEAKER_02]: coincidences that's what I call my test the girl Jean oh god yeah I mean he again he's one of

[00:27:21] [SPEAKER_07]: those cats the voice acting and it's like you mentioned Chris and she'll

[00:27:24] [SPEAKER_07]: doesn't amazing job as Louise I think Eugene Merman does a fantastic job

[00:27:29] [SPEAKER_07]: as Jean and again he's oddly sweet right like he has those moments as I say I think they've got

[00:27:35] [SPEAKER_08]: sweeter and more sincere and yeah right as these show grows they grow and the the

[00:27:43] [SPEAKER_08]: initial reason I watched this was because of H. John Benjamin who is the voice of art

[00:27:48] [SPEAKER_08]: during art and I devoured art for a time now finished it but I stopped watching one point but

[00:27:54] [SPEAKER_08]: me and my partner at one point like we were so into it that our unborn daughter was called Krigar

[00:28:03] [SPEAKER_08]: in my partner's bed and I wasn't allowed to call my daughter Krigar because I was told it's

[00:28:08] [SPEAKER_08]: true but yeah not even a middle name even then because I love his voice acting I kind of was like

[00:28:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm gonna get through this show because of his voice acting and because of his presence

[00:28:22] [SPEAKER_08]: and that that kind of helped me kind of stick with the episodes I don't love I don't love the

[00:28:27] [SPEAKER_08]: episodes but as then it kind of there's an episode of thing in series two when I fully got on board

[00:28:32] [SPEAKER_08]: which is when they have the burger truck right right right right and it's just mad cap and Zayney

[00:28:39] [SPEAKER_08]: and funny and just the van keeps blowing up because the way it's rigged you can't have something

[00:28:45] [SPEAKER_08]: turned on and the engine turned on at the same time and people keep turning engine and blowing

[00:28:49] [SPEAKER_08]: up this fan and it's just there's something about this episode we're kind of the chemistry

[00:28:53] [SPEAKER_08]: and all the elements kind of come together and I'm like under this show for me

[00:28:58] [SPEAKER_08]: like there's been episode four hand like there's great goonies like one where they're out

[00:29:03] [SPEAKER_08]: there's like they're trying to find gum in the taffy backtreed that's about to blow

[00:29:10] [SPEAKER_08]: up and that's very goonies that's a really good episode I think it starts series two

[00:29:14] [SPEAKER_08]: but yeah it's that exact point I was like no I've stuck for this for a reason this is now my show

[00:29:21] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah I had a group with that whole whole soul and yeah it's funny as well I don't know

[00:29:27] [SPEAKER_07]: because I watched arch before as well and I was aware that he was involved with both burgers

[00:29:32] [SPEAKER_07]: but I now understood the reference where there's an episode sometimes you know I'm going

[00:29:37] [SPEAKER_07]: with this sometimes I'm dying the line where like what Archie goes into hiding and he's just in

[00:29:43] [SPEAKER_07]: Bob's burgers restaurant as Bob and then the animation styles clap and I just was like oh that's a

[00:29:48] [SPEAKER_07]: reference but then like watching the show you're like oh I get it okay that's really clever and again

[00:29:54] [SPEAKER_07]: I love that it's just his voice like it's just him you're not even trying an accent or doing anything

[00:30:00] [SPEAKER_07]: or that it's just him but it fits the character so well doesn't it yeah like it is just

[00:30:05] [SPEAKER_07]: perfect and again all his mannerisms that I kind of think I love about him is you could just

[00:30:11] [SPEAKER_07]: kind of play the character of Bob Belcher out just very straight all the time and that would work

[00:30:15] [SPEAKER_07]: because all the other family members are kind of wacky and zany but it my favorite moments are when

[00:30:20] [SPEAKER_07]: he loses the plot and when like you know his love for food or something really oddly specific comes

[00:30:26] [SPEAKER_07]: out and he just kind of goes off on one I think there's some of the funniest moments

[00:30:34] [SPEAKER_05]: why is that thing in the tone of it?

[00:30:38] [SPEAKER_00]: haha haha haha stop bad staff good one goodie who are you talking to? oh no I'm just a friend

[00:30:45] [SPEAKER_03]: he's losing it in there okay it's time for you to come out there is no outlander not anymore where am I

[00:30:53] [SPEAKER_09]: am I here? oh am I here Bob I'm everywhere I'm calling the fire department right there shop

[00:31:00] [SPEAKER_03]: don't do it I'm staying in here he's loopy chop I'm never coming out yeah we see this all the time

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER_02]: I'll chop a hole but it's probably not gonna do it you'll have to put some food out and like um

[00:31:13] [SPEAKER_08]: and also like Benjamin voices like the Pico Pierre light things and yes is it

[00:31:20] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah? but Ron is other name of the teacher who has like Louise's teacher who's voice gets

[00:31:26] [SPEAKER_08]: increasingly like smoke add-alred yes there's got which is like a change that I've like already

[00:31:33] [SPEAKER_08]: like having watched it for a couple of times now like seeing that change is interesting that they

[00:31:43] [SPEAKER_08]: are busy that he's not straight like um dad that he's not like kind of standing to sit

[00:31:51] [SPEAKER_08]: calm dad get in America and sit comes like he's much more interesting and complicated and has

[00:31:56] [SPEAKER_08]: like these fights of fantasy and loses his sense of being and also what I really like about this show

[00:32:04] [SPEAKER_08]: is that this family's burger restaurant while it is great he's not successful and it never gets success

[00:32:11] [SPEAKER_08]: there's like an episode what a good old friend comes and offers him lots of money and they're

[00:32:16] [SPEAKER_08]: going to turn to Tiki Barn he has like a snap at that but as someone who in myself

[00:32:22] [SPEAKER_08]: doesn't really pursue kind of like monetary success I find it endearing that he is

[00:32:29] [SPEAKER_08]: not in it for the money not in it for the success he's in it to create something to create

[00:32:34] [SPEAKER_08]: well he thinks art and his art is like burgers and there's an amazing running freeing for

[00:32:38] [SPEAKER_08]: the episode they have these like very strange concoctions and puns around burger it's a lot of fun

[00:32:44] [SPEAKER_08]: there's like a couple of jokes that are throughout this show so like there's like next door

[00:32:51] [SPEAKER_08]: them is a shop that is always being replaced in the credits there's always a different van that

[00:32:56] [SPEAKER_08]: comes for the pests and there's all the different burgers being made and I love that Bob is not

[00:33:04] [SPEAKER_08]: successful but he is good because if anyone has burgers they're like these are incredible like there's

[00:33:10] [SPEAKER_08]: an episode where the landlord has a burger and it's one of the best things to have a taste it

[00:33:15] [SPEAKER_08]: and so he like accepts they can like basically not pay him rent on time because they create him

[00:33:22] [SPEAKER_08]: good that's right yeah I find that one of them is doing trades and this is that they are

[00:33:26] [SPEAKER_08]: not successful and it's not a show about them becoming successful

[00:33:31] [SPEAKER_08]: well it might end the end like they might end it back but yeah yeah I kind of know you mean

[00:33:36] [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's a really valid point and it's so yeah it's so endearing like you said and definitely

[00:33:43] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah the thing about art and creativity definitely comes through with Bob's character like

[00:33:49] [SPEAKER_07]: so this is obviously how's where Jean gets it from the little of his music but like yeah I love

[00:33:54] [SPEAKER_07]: that about the character like you said in the fact that he just at the end of the day just

[00:33:57] [SPEAKER_07]: loves cooking and just loves making burgers and coming up with silly pun names and you know I think

[00:34:04] [SPEAKER_07]: that's honestly fantastic on that note actually we have got the Bob's burgers cookbook

[00:34:10] [SPEAKER_07]: you found online honestly worth it just for the names just to sit and go through

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER_07]: side note they're also really good when you try and make them yeah whoever put the book together

[00:34:22] [SPEAKER_07]: like did a great job of creating genuinely great recipes then that's a really fun time

[00:34:28] [SPEAKER_07]: but yeah it's just something that speaks to like you said the character in the way he is and

[00:34:34] [SPEAKER_07]: also the thing I love about him and you're kind of you're back to the Simpsons and I don't

[00:34:37] [SPEAKER_07]: I don't want to kick the Simpsons too much because I have done an episode on it and I do

[00:34:40] [SPEAKER_07]: have a lot of fun this for it but something that's kind of pointed out and I think rightly so

[00:34:44] [SPEAKER_07]: as a modern criticism of the show is the fact that homo Simpsons like ability is just in the

[00:34:50] [SPEAKER_07]: toilet now like they just doubled down on making him an idiot and like so all of those sweet moments

[00:34:55] [SPEAKER_07]: that you remember from the early seasons I just gone whereas Bob is for one-tenths and purposes

[00:35:01] [SPEAKER_07]: and my sky and then a good dad and like he tries his absolute hardest he goes out of his way to do

[00:35:08] [SPEAKER_07]: things for his kids and for his wife and like he's just a good guy so you kind of root for him

[00:35:13] [SPEAKER_07]: a lot of the time you know in like the fact that his kids are as well a linder has their you know

[00:35:18] [SPEAKER_07]: eccentricities and have these moments but he's always supportive and as always like okay if that's

[00:35:24] [SPEAKER_07]: what you want even if he does it with a sign or mowning I think it's the sign he does like

[00:35:28] [SPEAKER_08]: for grudging doing something like yeah this is what it's like being a dad for me

[00:35:32] [SPEAKER_08]: question to do pretty much anything I will begrudging he takes you to this thing

[00:35:36] [SPEAKER_08]: or begrudging he going what is thing and like you bring on the Simpsons like I haven't seen

[00:35:40] [SPEAKER_08]: this episode by a learn about it the other day there's a Simpsons episode where Homer

[00:35:44] [SPEAKER_08]: drink drives crashes frames much and Marge goes to prison and in the comparison point is there

[00:35:52] [SPEAKER_08]: episode of Bob Spurger's where Tina is allowed to drive her car and in her yep I think

[00:35:57] [SPEAKER_08]: the steps are a share the most clips songs there's a couple of clips of it she crashes gently

[00:36:03] [SPEAKER_08]: into another car the only other car in the car park yeah and then they get like stuck into like this

[00:36:11] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of insurance scam with I forget his name it's Bob something from he plays salt and

[00:36:19] [SPEAKER_07]: called soul and breaking bad I will find out for you now I am on IMDB as we speak which reminds

[00:36:25] [SPEAKER_01]: me Q the new jingle life and forced to make yeah and anti it's a he's in it and he's playing

[00:36:52] [SPEAKER_08]: cropped insurance salesman and by the end it's that it's a really small low level episode and

[00:36:57] [SPEAKER_08]: it's just Bob says what's going on that that Tina crash the car and they just didn't want to

[00:37:02] [SPEAKER_08]: pay insurance stuff and that's like yeah that's where the comparison point is they're both

[00:37:06] [SPEAKER_08]: above car crash the one sends his wife to prison there one kind of says this what we're doing

[00:37:13] [SPEAKER_08]: we're trying to get out of this and that's the end of it hmm yeah that's a great great point

[00:37:18] [SPEAKER_07]: so I'm something that's grown I'm like oh yeah the guest list on this is nuts like just

[00:37:23] [SPEAKER_08]: but never like just going through his so famous person playing themselves it's always like

[00:37:29] [SPEAKER_08]: famous American comedians pop on for an episode or two like is it Bill Hayder is Mickey there's

[00:37:35] [SPEAKER_08]: so like he pops up and like sidebar barriers one of the best TV shows that has ever been put out

[00:37:42] [SPEAKER_08]: but it's not a comedy yes like it is just 30 minute long episodes and it's also when the

[00:37:48] [SPEAKER_08]: talk is shows I forever sound free like it's just a dark place but yeah Bill Hayder's in this and like

[00:37:55] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah um trying to remember all the so many that just pop up and they play a lot of like

[00:38:01] [SPEAKER_08]: school kids a little of the school kids are played by like famous comedians that pop in and do yeah

[00:38:08] [SPEAKER_07]: so Bobo and in court plays Chase yeah just what I have about there but scrolling back up

[00:38:12] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah I mean like you said the school kids I mean I love the running gag that Sarah Silverman

[00:38:17] [SPEAKER_07]: and her sister Laura play Oli and Andy the twins of Jimmy Pesto yeah super cute super funny Jenny

[00:38:24] [SPEAKER_07]: Slate is like a sort of teen frenemy I guess you could say it too is sort of yeah

[00:38:32] [SPEAKER_08]: but not I mean the kind of teen relationships come here to be a she's she's in it she's just like

[00:38:38] [SPEAKER_07]: the spoiled rich kid yeah she's very good at it let's see Bobi Tisdale's a Zik a character with

[00:38:45] [SPEAKER_07]: surprising amounts of depth in recent seasons as is the way uh let's see there's a few more oh also the

[00:38:52] [SPEAKER_07]: fact that H. John Benjamin also voices Jimmy Junior just Tina Trush I find hilarious like on a very

[00:39:01] [SPEAKER_07]: metal level that's very very funny yeah just a bunch of the kids I'm also looking at some of the

[00:39:07] [SPEAKER_07]: ones oh yes of course Megan Malali yeah I think it's how you pronounce it with last thing

[00:39:14] [SPEAKER_07]: as Gale as like a crazy angle genuinely hilarious it's Kevin Goggles is the non-blogging

[00:39:22] [SPEAKER_07]: flying yeah as Mr. Fisher and really really great kind of an excuse his brother yes Felix

[00:39:30] [SPEAKER_08]: am I just a bit like that these kind of like strange characters pop in like Gale is a very strange

[00:39:35] [SPEAKER_08]: character that in a weaker show would be very irritating but she's quite an deer and even when she's

[00:39:43] [SPEAKER_08]: being not in tearing it's fire you can kind of like go with it because this this show gives room for

[00:39:51] [SPEAKER_08]: character to make a mistake and like none of the mistakes they make a so huge as to send your

[00:39:56] [SPEAKER_08]: wife to prison for drink driving which is now my standard error of a terrible thing to do

[00:40:00] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm yet none of them in that back there was kind of like there's an episode where like Gale pretends

[00:40:06] [SPEAKER_08]: lots of stuff and there's like lots of fancy and her life she lives on her own in his cats and

[00:40:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Linda has this family and and while Linda's parents don't approve of Bob Linda is like married

[00:40:18] [SPEAKER_08]: has kids has a stable life I am Gale so we were wondering if you'd read us your poetry

[00:40:25] [SPEAKER_09]: oh what you kids want to hear my poetry and a wonderful wonderful happeny happy things we should

[00:40:35] [SPEAKER_09]: send into space a jar of mail magazine clippings of Scott Bale that's all that starts with

[00:40:43] [SPEAKER_09]: I'll cat you're just like me you'll go outside and squat to pee squat squat squat

[00:40:55] [SPEAKER_08]: we got a stop but I'm not done squat the end well these strange characters popping it out and

[00:41:01] [SPEAKER_08]: I have you know a great time yeah I don't think we haven't mentioned when we should probably talk

[00:41:04] [SPEAKER_08]: about this is that this is mostly a musical like at times it is explicitly a musical like

[00:41:10] [SPEAKER_08]: scene has written four or five full length musicals he's done one for dihyde and one for Thomas

[00:41:16] [SPEAKER_08]: Ellison and clear electric love I think it's what's called and like most episodes will have

[00:41:23] [SPEAKER_08]: like original music in corporate attempt the movie is a full blown musical it's probably one

[00:41:28] [SPEAKER_08]: of the reason why it in days itself it's so much because the songs are pretty good fun oh they are so

[00:41:34] [SPEAKER_08]: good and sometimes these musicals are like we're in the musical tradition of being a flight of

[00:41:39] [SPEAKER_08]: other times they are within the world itself something it's singing so yeah I love this show

[00:41:47] [SPEAKER_08]: has like musical numbers and it's good it it's like good at the songs it is you write it's

[00:41:55] [SPEAKER_07]: genuinely very very good at that and it's musical and the fact that there's so many puns everywhere

[00:42:02] [SPEAKER_07]: I think like two of the staples of this show I mean I love I don't know about you I love watching

[00:42:07] [SPEAKER_07]: the opening credits just because I want to see what they've named the shots yeah and like the

[00:42:12] [SPEAKER_07]: van that pulls off outside there's stuff like that and like say jeans songs a movie has a bunch

[00:42:18] [SPEAKER_07]: of great numbers and it's just like you said it's completely not afraid to do that something that

[00:42:26] [SPEAKER_07]: on a weird tangent becoming quite rare so I sat down in the cinema the other day and I

[00:42:33] [SPEAKER_07]: was a trailer came up for the wicked the film adaptation of wicked and I turns my wife as we're

[00:42:38] [SPEAKER_07]: watching the trailer and I said I'm really confused as to why this trailer is aggressively hiding

[00:42:43] [SPEAKER_07]: the fact that this is a musical like there was like barely the hint of any songs in it I thought

[00:42:49] [SPEAKER_07]: this is a musical this is a musical why am I not hearing any songs when I saw one car

[00:42:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I don't think it being pitched in as trailers in musical nope and the first thing that happens

[00:43:02] [SPEAKER_08]: is to me if each other may start seems like oh it's a musical and it's not just like adding

[00:43:07] [SPEAKER_08]: to which is a musical number at the end it's like yes full-blown musical I can't quite work out

[00:43:13] [SPEAKER_08]: why we don't sell musicals because I'm assuming it's because musical scene is not cool by executives

[00:43:20] [SPEAKER_07]: but yeah like amazing so my wife is just come in do I do a podcast wife jingle maybe

[00:43:27] [SPEAKER_07]: here's the book just for your own reference amazing I'm going to put this on socials it's incredible

[00:43:32] [SPEAKER_07]: genuinely again fantastic recipes just the names are absolutely incredible I mean I'm just going

[00:43:39] [SPEAKER_07]: to literally pick a random one now don't go rocking my heart burger oh like it's are these are

[00:43:48] [SPEAKER_07]: so good these are so so good is this your chart burger pickle my funny bone burger the list goes on

[00:43:55] [SPEAKER_07]: these are incredible anyway sorry yes you're right do it's such an interesting thing isn't it

[00:43:59] [SPEAKER_07]: that that's kind of happened lately was it mean girls to derimake apparently that was a full-blown musical

[00:44:04] [SPEAKER_08]: but again what's the release like the new girls stage show I believe yeah yeah yeah yes

[00:44:10] [SPEAKER_08]: it told me it wasn't my mean girls because I was like I watched me go well first come on

[00:44:14] [SPEAKER_08]: then it was like in the trailer is like this is not your parents' mean girls like you mean it's not

[00:44:18] [SPEAKER_08]: my mean girls in 20 years ago you mean it's not the good one okay I like the interesting

[00:44:23] [SPEAKER_08]: wrong wicked is I believe they've only done the first part of it so it's another one there's kind

[00:44:28] [SPEAKER_08]: of right secret to part of films that aren't shown to be too far until you get to the end of

[00:44:33] [SPEAKER_08]: the first burger wait they haven't concluded anything it's all our cliffhanger so yeah but yeah

[00:44:41] [SPEAKER_08]: Bob Spurger's the movie wasn't musical was much as a musical and has a conclusive finale like

[00:44:47] [SPEAKER_08]: fits within like the the overarching narrative of the show but it's stories contained of in

[00:44:52] [SPEAKER_08]: itself and that means you can watch it without at any point when you're watching the show just

[00:44:57] [SPEAKER_07]: watch it absolutely and I actually I really recently I'm pretty sure it was towards the end of

[00:45:02] [SPEAKER_07]: for the last season it's even 14 there's a reference to it like there's an episode that specifically

[00:45:07] [SPEAKER_07]: references the events in the film which I quite enjoyed I was like oh that's cool but it wasn't

[00:45:11] [SPEAKER_07]: done in the way that like it would alienate people it was done in a way that was very like

[00:45:16] [SPEAKER_07]: in a sentence just explained what was going on and I found that interesting because again

[00:45:21] [SPEAKER_07]: Simpsons I said to my wife because she kind of watched more of the more later seasons just

[00:45:26] [SPEAKER_07]: just something in the background and I just said to her like did they have a reference what happened

[00:45:31] [SPEAKER_07]: in the Simpsons movie after the Simpsons movie she's like kind of likely do it every so often

[00:45:35] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah I just find it interesting that this show does that but there's an episode dedicated to that

[00:45:41] [SPEAKER_07]: as you say it all of that's done in such a clever way that you can just enjoy it in fact I'm

[00:45:46] [SPEAKER_07]: pretty sure when we went to the cinema to watch the movie that friends that went with us

[00:45:51] [SPEAKER_07]: hadn't watched the series but they really enjoyed it and they were like oh yeah I got it like

[00:45:56] [SPEAKER_07]: it just it's very good at dropping you in and explaining who the characters are and like you say

[00:46:00] [SPEAKER_07]: like leaning into the things that make the show good like the musicals like the puns like all the

[00:46:11] [SPEAKER_07]: just so good so so good I love it I love it um who was some of your standout characters and

[00:46:17] [SPEAKER_07]: what I asked because we've you sort of touched upon some of the other ones here but is there

[00:46:20] [SPEAKER_07]: anyone else that leaps out to you they are like so obviously I have spoken about my kinship to Bob

[00:46:26] [SPEAKER_08]: I love we even talk about Linda Linda is very endearing I think Linda is lovely in sweet and kind of in

[00:46:59] [SPEAKER_08]: like I love the episode where she has the worst birthday ever like she

[00:47:04] [SPEAKER_08]: gets the roof she like gets a car gets sprayed by a scum goes the wrong buses miles away from town

[00:47:13] [SPEAKER_08]: all this stuff and then like the family are doing like this like treasure hunt trying to find

[00:47:20] [SPEAKER_08]: and all of her spots you find this life that she has I find Teddy very endearing I find Teddy

[00:47:27] [SPEAKER_08]: very sweet and deering character even if he is just riddled with anxieties and I love the running

[00:47:34] [SPEAKER_08]: thing of like he is Bob's friend but Bob doesn't want to acknowledge that and I have quite like

[00:47:40] [SPEAKER_08]: I have quite like I don't think I'm many friends because I kind of categorize on my head not having

[00:47:47] [SPEAKER_08]: many friends like I know lots of people I don't lots of people like me many lots of people but in the

[00:47:51] [SPEAKER_08]: same way the Bob is like not like that I'm like I think my friend I don't like like and like

[00:47:56] [SPEAKER_08]: I have a lot of colleagues who's like flex friends like Pokemon so like she has like yeah all these

[00:48:02] [SPEAKER_08]: friends like her intervention of friendships kind of wants to collect everyone together and so you can

[00:48:06] [SPEAKER_08]: be one united whole of friendship and that's not me so I find sure Teddy and Bob's kind of like

[00:48:14] [SPEAKER_08]: relationship deep and interesting and meaningful. How's it we got going for the days?

[00:48:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I like Gail Gail of the sweet it's Calvin that's Kevin Klein's character.

[00:48:32] [SPEAKER_07]: Oh yeah which because we should say like most if not all of these actors like voice multiple characters

[00:48:38] [SPEAKER_07]: which is just absolutely incredible like always really funny to see and what I love about

[00:48:46] [SPEAKER_07]: it as well as like they sometimes they don't even really hide it yeah that much like it's just

[00:48:51] [SPEAKER_07]: kind of listening like that's the same that they just kind of lean into it again they just they just

[00:48:56] [SPEAKER_08]: have fun doing it. Like I think like Kupi Kupi being voice by Bob is a statement more than it is

[00:49:06] [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's part of its design. I am fine with Mr. Front I think Mr. Front is hilarious he is the

[00:49:18] [SPEAKER_08]: I find him quite in doing and me too yeah it's hard to pick specific characters because I do think

[00:49:26] [SPEAKER_08]: that one of the strengths of this is that it's just really well developed characters it's like this

[00:49:33] [SPEAKER_08]: like yeah really death interests and characters come in and out like there'll be like not

[00:49:39] [SPEAKER_08]: there for like whole seasons and they'll come back in like there'll be seasons when you don't see

[00:49:43] [SPEAKER_08]: like Courtney at all and then Courtney will have an episode. I come with a specific character who

[00:49:50] [SPEAKER_08]: the we's friends on a school trip who was from a previous episode but many episodes before

[00:49:57] [SPEAKER_08]: that where they became friends and it's just yeah the show comes back to characters and I just

[00:50:05] [SPEAKER_08]: think who is initially quite irritating character is given the space to blossom into this quite

[00:50:12] [SPEAKER_08]: sweet interesting character who has like depth and nuance and relationships and so yeah and

[00:50:19] [SPEAKER_08]: Jimmy Jr. got Hong Kong on because sometimes he's just dancing a way I think I think that maps to

[00:50:25] [SPEAKER_08]: when he's been nice to Tina and not being nice to Tina like I think there is a map to know how

[00:50:31] [SPEAKER_07]: the show treats his like ability yeah I kind of love this sort of demystifying of his character as

[00:50:39] [SPEAKER_07]: well which I think is quite interesting the fact that like Tina is just kind of obsessed with him

[00:50:45] [SPEAKER_07]: in the way that like you know Tina just have these crushes where it's just in factuation

[00:50:49] [SPEAKER_07]: and then as the show goes on in their relationship sort of goes further it's like oh yeah

[00:50:54] [SPEAKER_07]: like he said sometimes he is like she thinks he's the hottest thing and another time it's kind of like

[00:50:59] [SPEAKER_02]: yeah this guy's kind of lame. Hey Shayna what what I just was saying hi because I just walked in

[00:51:06] [SPEAKER_00]: what do you mean why oh my god I never noticed how annoying you are I can't even understand what you're saying

[00:51:11] [SPEAKER_08]: oh I have a speech and payment Tina well fix it and I like it when like Tina gets confident that it's

[00:51:17] [SPEAKER_08]: like it's not constant yes point to Tina confident and we'll just be like kind of rude to people but

[00:51:23] [SPEAKER_08]: I'm like yes good yeah what the nicest person most of the time be rude tell people how they are

[00:51:31] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah yeah like there's like strange characters like a film director will come in now like

[00:51:38] [SPEAKER_08]: at one point he's like an activist for like animals and then he comes like a food truck owner

[00:51:45] [SPEAKER_08]: he's got just popping it out and it kind of like acknowledges that we've seen them before it will be

[00:51:50] [SPEAKER_08]: part of like the conversation will be like that we've seen them before and then now doing something different

[00:51:54] [SPEAKER_08]: and like yeah we'll change what we do we will change our lives and that's that's the

[00:52:00] [SPEAKER_08]: this way this is a sitcom more than it is like a sketchy um yes animation is because

[00:52:07] [SPEAKER_07]: the characters develop and grow and change yeah I completely agree I think that's and what we've

[00:52:13] [SPEAKER_07]: we've we've used the word so many times but it is endearing and it is the fact that like genuinely

[00:52:21] [SPEAKER_07]: the characters do become endearing like as they go on yes it's just absolutely brilliant and

[00:52:27] [SPEAKER_07]: like I mean pretty much most of them all kind of have these moments well like you say they're allowed

[00:52:32] [SPEAKER_07]: a little bit of growth some of them kind of stay the same I mean like Mr Fisheroda doesn't really

[00:52:37] [SPEAKER_07]: have that much depth to him but that's fine you don't want him to also I was just looking

[00:52:41] [SPEAKER_07]: up one of my other favorite characters Hugo Habacle the food inspector who's madly up with Linda

[00:52:46] [SPEAKER_07]: and Hates Bob brilliant character like just and he doesn't change his constantly he's

[00:52:52] [SPEAKER_07]: he means he means he means he means he means he means he doesn't change like but those characters are

[00:52:55] [SPEAKER_07]: kind of the fun and silly characters that you say you want them to drop in and out yeah and you

[00:53:01] [SPEAKER_07]: don't need them to grow we don't even have an angle at much of a you know arc so to speak

[00:53:05] [SPEAKER_08]: I'll even Hugo is allowed like an episode where he gives up being a food inspector goes and

[00:53:11] [SPEAKER_08]: lives on a nudist beach or says a nudist beach for a while and he gets so really like we all have

[00:53:16] [SPEAKER_08]: like those of us so we do something I've character for a bit and then we kind of like find ourselves

[00:53:20] [SPEAKER_08]: go back and like it's not the sub-obbs dad doesn't change their relationship doesn't change but

[00:53:27] [SPEAKER_08]: we learn more and more about that we will more and more about like kind of like Genesis of the

[00:53:31] [SPEAKER_08]: reason why they don't see eye tie where they don't connect um there's another character Nick Hoffman

[00:53:40] [SPEAKER_08]: is like the yes I think he owns a bar next door to Bob Stad and he's um yeah that's right

[00:53:48] [SPEAKER_08]: I think it's a cowboy bar western bar um yeah just pops my head uh yeah and then we think like

[00:53:55] [SPEAKER_08]: one and done characters like there's the lorry driving one of the Christmas episodes that's

[00:54:00] [SPEAKER_08]: doing jule and chasing them in a giant lot um candy cane lorry and it's where

[00:54:08] [SPEAKER_08]: it's everywhere and then the guys are Dutch baby and I don't want Dutch baby was which was

[00:54:13] [SPEAKER_08]: just fun it's just basically a pancake oh but I think he's like a really fun brief character

[00:54:21] [SPEAKER_08]: because they're fun of him he's silly and ridiculous and doesn't really depths to him and

[00:54:27] [SPEAKER_08]: they carry on with himself like no yeah all right great yeah and like you said these people

[00:54:32] [SPEAKER_07]: just drop in an eye and like just sort of again swallowing through eye and debesing like

[00:54:36] [SPEAKER_07]: absolute stacked cast they're in it but some of them again like I just clocked Jordan Peel

[00:54:42] [SPEAKER_07]: and there's like all the characters that he voiced like he's played him a sort of like

[00:54:46] [SPEAKER_07]: say drop in character for some of them it's like hotel guard it's just like literally a brief

[00:54:51] [SPEAKER_07]: camp now and it's it's so fun like again because you watch the show at home and you sort of have

[00:54:57] [SPEAKER_07]: this moment you're like I know that voice but it's just like a random character in the back

[00:55:05] [SPEAKER_07]: you're like what you know kind of go how do they get them to do that for two seconds but it's

[00:55:12] [SPEAKER_07]: like clearly people must have just have the most fun on this show like coming in and just

[00:55:17] [SPEAKER_07]: recording and like we said earlier the fact that the writing is still clearly great

[00:55:22] [SPEAKER_08]: and like some of the best episodes have been later episodes like I haven't reached a point when

[00:55:27] [SPEAKER_08]: watch series and not had at least two or three episodes try to think where he's turned out

[00:55:31] [SPEAKER_08]: and like even though they have these form of episodes that the fact is giving episodes the

[00:55:36] [SPEAKER_08]: Christmas episodes how we know it says they approach them differently at different points like I

[00:55:40] [SPEAKER_08]: think this series have got how we know so there's going to be a straight parody whereas

[00:55:44] [SPEAKER_08]: another series it's where the belt the parents kind of borrow a house

[00:55:51] [SPEAKER_08]: and set up this very elaborate scare to scare Louise because Louise is so hard and

[00:55:57] [SPEAKER_08]: cynical and they do it they scare her so and then like we're thanks giving sometimes it'll

[00:56:03] [SPEAKER_08]: be like a simpler episode like they're playing mini golf and it's not about Bob's obsession

[00:56:07] [SPEAKER_08]: we've cooking the perfect turkey and then another episode it'll be like one where he is so like

[00:56:13] [SPEAKER_08]: stressed at the idea of doing it that it turns out that he is putting he's going back in his mind

[00:56:18] [SPEAKER_08]: to toilet training his children and ending up putting his turkeys and the toilet

[00:56:25] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean that one that one is like a great soap all the way he keeps going back the same person

[00:56:30] [SPEAKER_08]: at the kind of meat counter and this guy thinks he's coming on to him and sends it giving him

[00:56:35] [SPEAKER_08]: his number and Bob's like yeah it has like a momentary contemplates being by and then he's like

[00:56:40] [SPEAKER_08]: no I couldn't they you're too good for me and it's not that he wouldn't do it it's that

[00:56:45] [SPEAKER_08]: he doesn't see himself as good enough as person and it's again this is a new one show that

[00:56:53] [SPEAKER_08]: has branched out of being they're kind of like punched down comedy that kind of exist in

[00:56:58] [SPEAKER_08]: a lot of merrior comedies is kind of so it's quickly froze off of themselves and they have like

[00:57:04] [SPEAKER_08]: interesting characters that represent a range of different people like theirs um the limo driver

[00:57:12] [SPEAKER_08]: their friends with is is um presenting the son where there's other characters for an

[00:57:17] [SPEAKER_08]: different way it's it's just they kind of like learned earlier on that they can be nice about people

[00:57:24] [SPEAKER_07]: I think that's something that's a nice show it's true yeah there's never like a moment where they're

[00:57:30] [SPEAKER_07]: nasty even even the characters that maybe a bit odd or maybe even a bit mean to them I can't

[00:57:34] [SPEAKER_07]: remember the names exactly but like there's the guy that just kind of constantly goes around on

[00:57:38] [SPEAKER_07]: roller skate you know in like his underpants and they never really bat an eye you know they just

[00:57:44] [SPEAKER_07]: kind of like yeah whatever all there's like the grumpy couple there's like that all women is always

[00:57:47] [SPEAKER_08]: screaming at people which is great is she's green perverts I think she's green yeah heaven or

[00:57:52] [SPEAKER_07]: not she she screams a lot of things you know but it's uh again they never really bat an eye or like

[00:57:58] [SPEAKER_07]: go after anybody that like they just they just let people be people which is quite nice I'm just

[00:58:04] [SPEAKER_07]: having like a scroll through now the episodes as well because you've just got me thinking and um there's so many

[00:58:10] [SPEAKER_07]: standouts I mean yeah max green felt as uh booboo like this uh young boy sort of in a

[00:58:17] [SPEAKER_07]: inner boy band that Tina's obsessed with great episode and again like a timeless thing right

[00:58:22] [SPEAKER_07]: because boy bands will always be a thing um and just the what that does with that is again really funny

[00:58:29] [SPEAKER_08]: that Louise falls in love with him and she has him that's right and that's so which side of

[00:58:33] [SPEAKER_00]: action before we go booboo my sister wants to ask you something what it's unlike wish of I

[00:58:44] [SPEAKER_00]: what what what what what do you say what get me out of this thing trying to talk to a fan

[00:58:52] [SPEAKER_00]: give me just a little dignity thank you now what was that little girl

[00:59:08] [SPEAKER_08]: bald where is it like there's yeah another episode where she basically tells a regular

[00:59:16] [SPEAKER_08]: size really that she loves him but yes it's not a romantic love it's it's kind of a love of friends

[00:59:24] [SPEAKER_08]: or a love of like they just get on and that's the love is for her yeah and it's even like

[00:59:32] [SPEAKER_07]: you just on that note I remember those episodes were like they do kind of flash forward stories

[00:59:36] [SPEAKER_07]: were like the kids are imagining the future and whenever it's Louise's future like regular size

[00:59:41] [SPEAKER_07]: Rudy is kind of like her almost not really acknowledged husband in almost all of the scenarios because

[00:59:47] [SPEAKER_07]: this is kind of like this really sweet thing of like yeah they probably will but like we're not

[00:59:52] [SPEAKER_07]: really going to that's not the point of this story we're not addressing that hit but it's just sweet

[00:59:56] [SPEAKER_07]: and it's like kind of childlike innocence of like yeah that's what you'd expect from this kind of thing

[01:00:02] [SPEAKER_07]: so yeah yeah stuff like that they do is it's just really really good fun

[01:00:05] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm just having a quick scroll again just looking through and seeing like what they've got here

[01:00:10] [SPEAKER_07]: because these are me I'm gonna have to go back and watch the whole thing out I think I think I'm up

[01:00:16] [SPEAKER_08]: to series 13 I think that my latest watch is going to series 13 yeah and then I watched the film today

[01:00:25] [SPEAKER_08]: which I think is my second time watching it this year so yeah yeah and then very good I'm very

[01:00:30] [SPEAKER_08]: quickly but came like a comfort watch made the film like I find it very exciting watching watch and

[01:00:37] [SPEAKER_08]: because it's tight it's 90 it's got its own story but it's these characters that you love

[01:00:43] [SPEAKER_08]: and the art style is similar but slightly like it's a slightly better mage because it's

[01:00:49] [SPEAKER_08]: movies but yes it's better shot some lighting so from my point of view as a film fan I can go

[01:00:55] [SPEAKER_08]: this experience but it's still bobs but they don't like change it to anything else like

[01:01:02] [SPEAKER_07]: no no that's true yeah yeah yeah it was like a little bit more cinematic

[01:01:07] [SPEAKER_07]: like you say like a little bit more ambitious some 3D animation like creeping in just to kind of

[01:01:12] [SPEAKER_07]: add a bit more depth of certain things you're like smart very very smart and the story is genuinely

[01:01:18] [SPEAKER_07]: great and also very hilarious like in a lot of things like I just now just remembered that part

[01:01:23] [SPEAKER_07]: the plot revolves around Mr. Fishoda and his brother Felix thinking they can escape in

[01:01:27] [SPEAKER_07]: a model submarine like it's just like far away gags like that that I just really really funny

[01:01:34] [SPEAKER_07]: but the whole thing kind of hinges on Louise as well like in her acceptance of being different

[01:01:39] [SPEAKER_07]: and like the whole bunny is happening and yeah I think that was a bit that got me actually in

[01:01:44] [SPEAKER_07]: this cinema we're gonna just acknowledge it they're like you know oh but you say your mum more

[01:01:49] [SPEAKER_07]: means like yeah she's just like wearing them and it's just that acknowledgement of like yeah

[01:01:53] [SPEAKER_07]: sometimes people are just a bit quirky and like that's what makes you you and her going on

[01:01:58] [SPEAKER_07]: that whole journey is just oh so good so good it's a yeah it's such a great show I'm out and again

[01:02:06] [SPEAKER_07]: it's one that I'm confident as it goes on like they come at season 15 now and like stuff coming

[01:02:10] [SPEAKER_07]: out quite soon and I'm not worried about it I think I've got you like I feel like this is one

[01:02:17] [SPEAKER_07]: show is where I think it could probably comfortably go on for a couple more seasons at least

[01:02:24] [SPEAKER_08]: we've at least got to get from that very you know and we've got to get them out of very

[01:02:27] [SPEAKER_07]: how was that not happened now that you mentioned it how was that not happened I'm just looking

[01:02:33] [SPEAKER_08]: look there's a side but I've been watching clips of a game couldn't thank goodness you came

[01:02:39] [SPEAKER_08]: well so I think thank goodness you're here whatever is which is your story that's automated and

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER_08]: he's on the voices of it as he pops in and like clips and watching yes and like he fits everywhere

[01:02:50] [SPEAKER_08]: but yeah like I think the reason this show has never like peeps and then gone down is because

[01:02:56] [SPEAKER_08]: it's never quite a team like the universal cultural place of like the Simpsons and Family Guy

[01:03:03] [SPEAKER_08]: and other comedies and like another coming watching recently I've got them back into his friends

[01:03:10] [SPEAKER_08]: for me like once you get like series five onwards it's just you can feel the kind of like gears

[01:03:16] [SPEAKER_08]: churning it out and it becomes a machine that they're just churning out all these episodes

[01:03:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and like the Simpsons has these incredible episodes through the first nine years of its life

[01:03:26] [SPEAKER_08]: and then is now churning it out I've seen clips of the voice acting and those actually been

[01:03:31] [SPEAKER_08]: too far so long and then I'll so tie it and I'll hold them just let them be free of this it's like

[01:03:37] [SPEAKER_08]: monkey's poor curse where they are they wish to never be out of work and that meant they always

[01:03:41] [SPEAKER_08]: be on the Simpsons yeah yeah and like Family Guy at one point was the most daring exciting

[01:03:47] [SPEAKER_08]: comedy out there and now all so many of us shows including Bob's burgers of taking elements of Family

[01:03:53] [SPEAKER_08]: Guy and incorporating themselves and now I mean like some of the exact part for example it

[01:03:59] [SPEAKER_08]: was huge 10 15 20 years ago and now it's just still exists because they can't

[01:04:06] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah and then the thing of Bob's burgers is existed it's been constant it now has Disney

[01:04:12] [SPEAKER_08]: Plus as one of its homes and so across the well we can watch it and what indeed isn't it

[01:04:19] [SPEAKER_08]: lives and it like its film was not a huge success but it made money people didn't saw it

[01:04:25] [SPEAKER_08]: and I can see them doing another film quite easily and like two free years time it doesn't

[01:04:29] [SPEAKER_08]: feel like because the Simpsons movie was like it's like cultural moment of like 2007 or whenever

[01:04:34] [SPEAKER_08]: it came out like it was a big film of that time yeah they would have to make another film as

[01:04:39] [SPEAKER_08]: because at the same for South part then maybe like it had to make a huge film where I think

[01:04:43] [SPEAKER_08]: Bob's burgers because it was successful but also a low key success they can do it again

[01:04:49] [SPEAKER_08]: and it doesn't have to be kind of like number one at the box office and making hundreds of millions

[01:04:54] [SPEAKER_08]: of dollars they can do it again when they feel comfortable and that I think is the success

[01:04:59] [SPEAKER_08]: of Bob's burgers like much like Bob it has never achieved the level of acclaim that the art

[01:05:07] [SPEAKER_08]: kind of deserves I think people like it as a fun as has clearly fans because we're talking

[01:05:11] [SPEAKER_08]: about it and obviously you have a Bob's burger yeah so someone's gone off and made

[01:05:15] [SPEAKER_08]: a Bob's burger's burger's burger but I'm like I've a show which kind of get the primarctic shirts

[01:05:21] [SPEAKER_08]: I said it's having a variety of time at reaching me with the other Bob's burgers

[01:05:24] [SPEAKER_08]: to each and prime my coach could buy I will google that now

[01:05:37] [SPEAKER_07]: you said it now it's gonna exist and if it doesn't exist

[01:05:40] [SPEAKER_07]: it wouldn't be in yeah yeah that's it the algorithms listening so

[01:05:47] [SPEAKER_07]: Bob's burgers primer that's water is it water brothers the ohms

[01:05:50] [SPEAKER_08]: is fox so it's disfunning this fox yeah you much yes yes there's Disney

[01:05:58] [SPEAKER_08]: 46% of everything we have now I think so you've said some of you said pretty pretty much pretty much

[01:06:04] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah they might even own this podcast who knows it's a little bit Disney if you're listening

[01:06:09] [SPEAKER_08]: please buy my podcast so for me I'm happy to continue it as long as you want and to talk

[01:06:18] [SPEAKER_07]: down at your beat me to it yeah no it looks like that's not the case at least not yet

[01:06:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I mean who knows who knows a few more years and it'll be in like

[01:06:28] [SPEAKER_08]: Astero or primarco one live a place is you'll have like Bob's face on a burger

[01:06:33] [SPEAKER_08]: I was dipping the art style yes is while I like it I think it is still sort of ugly

[01:06:41] [SPEAKER_08]: in a beautiful way and it's not quite like some of the other cartoons where it's

[01:06:46] [SPEAKER_08]: much more cartoon you immediately like I'm gonna teach it this like the nose is a strange like the

[01:06:51] [SPEAKER_08]: nose is like drawn down onto their face yeah yeah yeah it's true it's true it's a very distinct

[01:07:00] [SPEAKER_07]: style but yeah one that works and I agree it's sort of a strange show of like it's really

[01:07:06] [SPEAKER_07]: successful but at the same time it has this sort of cult following yeah if that makes sense like

[01:07:14] [SPEAKER_07]: you're saying like it's like it's it's clearly doing well enough that like they've done 15

[01:07:18] [SPEAKER_07]: seasons on a movie and it must be making money them to keep making it but as you say it's not like

[01:07:24] [SPEAKER_07]: a universe where you see it everywhere all the time kind of thing but I think that's I'm with

[01:07:30] [SPEAKER_07]: you mind I think that's some of the best stuff just in general is the stuff that has a steady

[01:07:33] [SPEAKER_07]: following and like you said perfectly just a minute ago like the creators can kind of pick it up

[01:07:40] [SPEAKER_07]: when they feel inspired or when they want to do enough episodes that they're like yeah we're

[01:07:45] [SPEAKER_07]: happy with this this is good stuff good quality how it goes and long make intended that's what I'll

[01:07:52] [SPEAKER_07]: say on that like I will I will happily watch it for the rest of my life as long as it stays at

[01:07:56] [SPEAKER_08]: this level which I'm pretty confident it will you know drop down if you're not just I'm

[01:08:01] [SPEAKER_08]: dropped down I'm not sure if I'm a bit as long as it doesn't jump the shark can start I know sending

[01:08:07] [SPEAKER_08]: the belchers into space which I worry when I say this stuff I'm going to manifest it into being like

[01:08:15] [SPEAKER_07]: yeah yeah or have all have a linda go to prison because

[01:08:19] [SPEAKER_07]: all of a sudden I've got drunk and crash the car I kind of want to watch that some sense so

[01:08:24] [SPEAKER_08]: I haven't seen it so I kind of want to watch it but I know it does make sense I don't think it

[01:08:31] [SPEAKER_07]: does on that note I actually heard there was another episode of the more recent season where

[01:08:35] [SPEAKER_07]: we're just something similar where he just steals a car apparently and it's like comic but

[01:08:40] [SPEAKER_07]: guys car and smash his head and it's like so that's the level we're at now where he's just

[01:08:44] [SPEAKER_08]: committing crime I mean he started someone who you know strangles his son around the

[01:08:52] [SPEAKER_08]: where there is that he's always being there is that questionable character I guess the thing

[01:08:59] [SPEAKER_08]: and it's yeah that's age like milk because in like friends of Joey like Joey in the first half

[01:09:06] [SPEAKER_08]: of friends isn't smart but he's not stupid it's just he's not book smart and then the second

[01:09:11] [SPEAKER_08]: of friends he becomes stupid like he becomes actively a less-in-person-telligent character and like

[01:09:19] [SPEAKER_08]: I think a lot of shows go the opposite way around a Bob's bag which is a Bob's burger's

[01:09:23] [SPEAKER_08]: character become deeper and nuanced and interesting whereas I think a lot of shows when they kind

[01:09:29] [SPEAKER_08]: of get to this like formula stage with it just churning out episodes the characters become like

[01:09:34] [SPEAKER_08]: this fixed point of like he's the idiot she's the weirdo he's the jock etc etc where is that's

[01:09:41] [SPEAKER_08]: not true ever in the case when we're Bob's burgers it's it's much more comfortable now that it

[01:09:46] [SPEAKER_08]: can have this rich strange roster of characters yeah that's a great point yeah they're not

[01:09:53] [SPEAKER_07]: caricatures they're deep characters as he's saying and that's why it makes me cry because

[01:09:58] [SPEAKER_08]: deep characters are going through deep things yeah you feel that way then yeah totally agree totally agree

[01:10:06] [SPEAKER_07]: dude thank you so much for coming back on I like chatting with me about it and for anyone who's

[01:10:10] [SPEAKER_07]: listening you haven't watched both burgers as we've mentioned a number of times it is now available

[01:10:15] [SPEAKER_07]: like you've got Disney Blast or I think Prime again possibly maybe but at least Disney Blast all

[01:10:20] [SPEAKER_07]: of it's on there just check it out man you cannot go wrong with the show I genuinely think it is

[01:10:27] [SPEAKER_07]: absolutely fantastic well I've got you here actually as a kind of weird bonus side note

[01:10:32] [SPEAKER_07]: future armor new series if you kept up with it because I think that last time we spoke it was just about

[01:10:37] [SPEAKER_08]: to come out haven't watched the latest series of what so it's on to its second new season

[01:10:43] [SPEAKER_08]: I haven't watched any of the second new seasons I've watched the first new season okay and

[01:10:48] [SPEAKER_08]: it's fine it's good I like it being back I doesn't it's not as consistent as it

[01:10:56] [SPEAKER_08]: feature on its peak but there are bits and it's great and the first actual back and side side bar

[01:11:02] [SPEAKER_08]: the voice of vendor helped produce this incredible documentary called I Know That Voice which is

[01:11:10] [SPEAKER_08]: amazing documentary about the act of voice acting and because it's the voice of vendor is behind

[01:11:16] [SPEAKER_08]: it all these famous voice actors are in it so it's got like I think Tara Strong it's got

[01:11:22] [SPEAKER_08]: rank well career it's got all these like classic voice actors talking through their process talking

[01:11:26] [SPEAKER_08]: through how it all works which kind of links into like where are our Bob Spurges because one of

[01:11:31] [SPEAKER_08]: the strength of Spurges is amazing voice acting so yeah so yeah I think that new feature on

[01:11:37] [SPEAKER_08]: is good enough I'm happy it exists I'm happy they're making it it isn't like Bob Spurges

[01:11:44] [SPEAKER_08]: why I think it's grown in the centre I do still probably land at a point where series one to four

[01:11:51] [SPEAKER_08]: the first run of Futurges is the strongest and then everything that comes since is huge but it's

[01:11:57] [SPEAKER_08]: never quite there like I think like series one to four is like yeah every episode is amazing and then

[01:12:06] [SPEAKER_08]: it gets to a lot of episodes are good and it gets there's where we are now with a lot of episodes

[01:12:10] [SPEAKER_08]: good summer not as good as I was sometimes it like there I think this new series starts in an

[01:12:16] [SPEAKER_08]: NFT episode and the life of me I hate it when Futurger on my now has to feel like has to go to

[01:12:21] [SPEAKER_08]: like what is a modern tech and extrapolate to the future because it's the future the future can look

[01:12:26] [SPEAKER_08]: every at once like yeah that's a fabulous sidebar sidebar sidebar's headbar

[01:12:32] [SPEAKER_08]: so I didn't run this deal a day well I like to have that and there's some stuff I didn't like

[01:12:36] [SPEAKER_08]: is that everything was analog and it was like a sci-fi of the 70s playing out in a modern film

[01:12:42] [SPEAKER_08]: so like everything had the clicks and the words and sounds of a 1970s sci-fi everything looked

[01:12:48] [SPEAKER_08]: like it was from that vision of the future my finger feature on is always being it's as best when

[01:12:53] [SPEAKER_08]: it's like vision of the future is kind of like no it can be wacky and we don't explain where it

[01:12:57] [SPEAKER_08]: happens that way we need to explain the science because we are a thousand years in the future so

[01:13:01] [SPEAKER_08]: where we've got to can be insane and like yeah yeah I love it when it's like that

[01:13:08] [SPEAKER_07]: I agree I agree yeah I very much agree with you there I yeah same kind of really enjoyed it

[01:13:13] [SPEAKER_07]: but at the same time like you said yeah a couple of moments feel like hmm well this age well

[01:13:17] [SPEAKER_07]: and a couple years I don't know but you know at least it's back yeah and also thank you for

[01:13:20] [SPEAKER_07]: the recommendation I've found that documentary it is on YouTube so I put a link in the show and

[01:13:26] [SPEAKER_07]: it's when this episode is about it's like that's worth checking out one of my favorite

[01:13:30] [SPEAKER_08]: adventures I've recently watched like I'm like sometimes on documentaries and like I should

[01:13:33] [SPEAKER_08]: watch more documentaries yeah this is one of the good ones hmm brilliant okay well that's what

[01:13:38] [SPEAKER_07]: it can be at the top of the show tonight to this episode for everybody so go and check out after you finish

[01:13:43] [SPEAKER_07]: this but yeah I just want to throw it back over to you and Russell is there anything else you

[01:13:47] [SPEAKER_08]: wanted to talk about with this show before we wrap up um not particularly I think people should go

[01:13:52] [SPEAKER_08]: from watch I'm trying to for life me remember which episode is in series two that is the one that

[01:14:00] [SPEAKER_08]: where the belch has get a burger van and they kind of like join like the the world of like food

[01:14:06] [SPEAKER_08]: trucks get like a food truck vessel and it's brilliant food truck and food truck and start with

[01:14:13] [SPEAKER_08]: food truck and food truck and there's a good one sort of thing go back to series one and you

[01:14:16] [SPEAKER_08]: have to watch series one in spite of the fact that I don't love series one but I like bits of it

[01:14:21] [SPEAKER_08]: and then you'll be fine like but start with food truck and because food truck and is a

[01:14:25] [SPEAKER_08]: Laura C. Fun episode is a great song as a great parody of a singer in it has a returning character in

[01:14:32] [SPEAKER_08]: it and all the kids have elaric in it like so they at one point they start like there's

[01:14:38] [SPEAKER_08]: an app for food trucks they start like harshly rating or they were food trucks to push business

[01:14:43] [SPEAKER_07]: to what yeah it's great yeah that's right yeah absolutely awesome great jumping off point yeah

[01:14:54] [SPEAKER_07]: season two episode five everybody there you go go for it go for it and if you really like

[01:14:59] [SPEAKER_08]: bobsburgers there's the great outdoors and Disney Plus which is by some of the craters and

[01:15:04] [SPEAKER_08]: centrally park maybe on Apple TV which is again by some of the craters and they will look the same

[01:15:09] [SPEAKER_08]: so if you really get into bobsburgers you really more of a hit than you've got try those two

[01:15:15] [SPEAKER_08]: I really like the great outdoors I haven't watched much the Apple TV because I always forget

[01:15:20] [SPEAKER_08]: have Apple TV so I don't watch enough Apple TV but the great outdoors is a lot of fun it's quite

[01:15:25] [SPEAKER_08]: sweet and it has Nick Hoffman as one of the lead voices so I love it nice that's a great recommendation

[01:15:31] [SPEAKER_07]: I'll check that out myself really awesome well Russell thank you so much for coming back on the

[01:15:36] [SPEAKER_07]: shows always a pleasure to see my friend so for anyone who's listening to this maybe isn't

[01:15:40] [SPEAKER_07]: aware where can the good people find you and your incredible podcasts who so you can find me online

[01:15:48] [SPEAKER_08]: my personal one is Russell loves movies I'm trying to make Fred's work so come from

[01:15:53] [SPEAKER_08]: me and Fred's if you're Fred's I don't love Fred's but I'm trying to make it work

[01:15:58] [SPEAKER_08]: I feel either and then my own podcasts are the main one is not just for kids I have been

[01:16:04] [SPEAKER_08]: done that for just over four years now I've got seven or eight seasons I've done jibby

[01:16:11] [SPEAKER_08]: done spillberg of done musicals I don't know to stuff just search something and I might have

[01:16:17] [SPEAKER_08]: I also the the new strand I've sort of a new strand called there can only be one which is

[01:16:23] [SPEAKER_08]: terrific fun it's a movie madness podcast where me and the two guests pick a dozen films around

[01:16:29] [SPEAKER_08]: a certain subject and have a vote for like civil rounds and crown one the first one is film openings

[01:16:37] [SPEAKER_08]: the second one which is coming out the time recording tomorrow but the time this goes out will be out

[01:16:43] [SPEAKER_08]: on spillberg third one is on fill bad movies which generally it was one of the most enjoyable

[01:16:49] [SPEAKER_08]: conversations I've had about some of the least enjoyable films I've ever seen so yeah check

[01:16:54] [SPEAKER_07]: everyone out I look forward to hearing all of those and uh yeah if anyone's not familiar I think

[01:16:58] [SPEAKER_07]: there's a couple of episodes I was fortunate enough to guess it on so you got jumping off

[01:17:02] [SPEAKER_08]: what try how to try how to train your dragon that's the one you came on

[01:17:06] [SPEAKER_08]: that was great and I it was good fun think I've got I'm gonna get you off my team to the

[01:17:11] [SPEAKER_08]: one I will need to check where it was my think I've got you down for something but I have to check

[01:17:16] [SPEAKER_07]: I believe so yeah there's also a lot across over as well so there's quite a few episodes where

[01:17:21] [SPEAKER_07]: you've had similar guests and stuff so yeah loads loads of great stuff I think it's great and

[01:17:26] [SPEAKER_07]: congrats on doing four years as well someone who's in a similar about like it takes a toll

[01:17:29] [SPEAKER_08]: it does and it's it's worth it it's fun but it's also there's a lot of us independent podcast out

[01:17:36] [SPEAKER_08]: so it's like it's a very very busy pool that you're trying to like it is set your

[01:17:44] [SPEAKER_08]: mix I met four basically try to set up your stall in like a hole and there's loads you're trying

[01:17:48] [SPEAKER_08]: to do it yeah shouting from to go to it and your podcast great and you get in great guests like

[01:17:53] [SPEAKER_08]: I have downloaded about how I listened here I think you had a map promise that's all I've got

[01:17:57] [SPEAKER_08]: downloaded yeah I've seen get off my short film to need a terrific writer

[01:18:04] [SPEAKER_08]: yeah yeah great like spooky one I saw a horror festival which was great

[01:18:09] [SPEAKER_08]: right yeah of course so yeah again congratulations your podcast continues like we're talking

[01:18:15] [SPEAKER_08]: off air right you're going off and into people which is amazing it's amazing you're going off

[01:18:19] [SPEAKER_08]: festivals to infinity like yeah I feel very warm to the people who come with podcasts

[01:18:26] [SPEAKER_08]: and invite me on there's the thing I continue to watch what they're doing and I find it very

[01:18:30] [SPEAKER_08]: hard and like when I see like the like any number of podcasts that I'm like yes it's good

[01:18:36] [SPEAKER_08]: that you continue and then you get these opportunities this is great I agree and that's something

[01:18:42] [SPEAKER_07]: to be said isn't it for the space as like you said there's a lot of people out there but

[01:18:46] [SPEAKER_07]: I found it's to I have personally found it to be one of the most welcoming and supportive

[01:18:51] [SPEAKER_07]: communities out there it's yeah it blows my mind constantly the amount of just shows you get

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER_07]: to meet like yourself along the way that I just like yeah I'll have you on my show and I'll

[01:19:00] [SPEAKER_07]: promote this and I'll be there you'll stuff and you know you don't ask for it it just happens and

[01:19:05] [SPEAKER_07]: you're like oh okay like you said you watch each other grow and take on new challenges and

[01:19:10] [SPEAKER_07]: you'll opportunities it's really awesome so yeah thanks for in the show tonight's everybody go

[01:19:13] [SPEAKER_07]: check out Russell's podcast a massive thank you there to Russell for coming back onto the podcast

[01:19:19] [SPEAKER_07]: and sharing your love of Bob Spurg is please do yourself a favor and go and check out Russell's

[01:19:24] [SPEAKER_07]: amazing podcast I've left links in the show notes you can find out more as well as given

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[01:19:34] [SPEAKER_07]: I'm not just saying that because he's been nice enough to invite me on the show but he has genuinely

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[01:19:43] [SPEAKER_07]: that cross over from the shows so there's plenty of jumping off points so make sure you go and

[01:19:47] [SPEAKER_07]: check it out again links are in the show notes and speaking of links in the show notes I have

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[01:20:33] [SPEAKER_07]: to pick on the plot from the movie Katzen dogs yes you heard me correctly I chose Katzen dogs

[01:20:40] [SPEAKER_07]: what it's a fun movie anyway I had a lot of fun chatting with the guys and trying to improve

[01:20:46] [SPEAKER_07]: upon the evil scheme of Mr. Tinkles voiced brilliantly by Sean Hayes it was a really fun

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