Sitcom September - My Name Is Earl (Sort Of...) with Graham Jones (The Podcast Nobody Asked For)

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[00:00:39] Welcome to the final episode of Sitcom September. For this very special episode,

[00:00:45] the 125th episode of the entire podcast, I welcome back a returning guest, one half of

[00:00:52] the podcast nobody asked for, it's Graham Jones. Graham was good enough to come back

[00:00:57] on the show and discuss the fantastic Sitcom. My name is Earl.

[00:01:03] This is a show that has lived in cult status. Ever since it first aired in 2005, it garnered

[00:01:10] millions of viewers around the world, ran for four seasons and then was cut brutally short

[00:01:16] after an incredible cliffhanger in its fourth and final season in 2009. It's a show that

[00:01:22] has a really simple premise in that our main character Earl Hickey has a life changing

[00:01:27] event when he wins a lottery but after he realizes that years of terrible behavior

[00:01:32] may have caused him some karma, he decides to go on a journey of self discovery and

[00:01:37] redemption and try and help as many people as possible that he has wronged in the past.

[00:01:42] It's a really light hearted fun show and it was such a shame that it got cut short.

[00:01:47] We did of course get a spiritual successor to this years later in Raising Hope which

[00:01:51] has also been covered on this podcast and it's a show that has many a fan still looking

[00:01:56] back on it fondly and is available on the streaming service run by The Big Bad

[00:02:00] Mouse. It was an absolute delight to have Graham back on the show and really just

[00:02:06] catch up more than anything. He's someone that I enjoy talking to. We had a lot of fun,

[00:02:10] there are many a tangent in this episode and as you'll notice I have titled this episode

[00:02:16] My Name Is Earl sort of for that exact reason but it's still a fun conversation. We still

[00:02:22] have a great time talking about this awesome show and I hope you guys enjoy it as much

[00:02:26] as we did. Right that's enough from me let's just get to the episode. This is

[00:02:32] My Name Is Earl with Graham Jones.

[00:02:43] Hello Graham and welcome back to the fundamentals podcast.

[00:02:46] Hello sir this is the hat trick.

[00:02:49] This is the hat trick you and Ian are neck and neck in this way.

[00:02:54] Yeah congratulations. Maybe I'll put applause in here. I think that feels fitting isn't it?

[00:03:00] I think so yeah and I won't mention the fact that I was second to make it to

[00:03:07] Well in my defence Ian came to me with an absolute corker of an idea when I was in the middle

[00:03:12] of songwriting season so I couldn't ignore it.

[00:03:16] Yeah no that's fair and he also does put a lot more effort into that kind of thing than I do.

[00:03:20] I just turn up and talk rubbish for two hours every week or every other week so yeah he's

[00:03:27] probably out there but don't tell him that.

[00:03:30] I'll cut this out don't worry.

[00:03:32] Perfect.

[00:03:33] But yeah no I appreciate you coming back on.

[00:03:35] I have any guests that comes on more than once frankly I'm just amazed at so a third time

[00:03:41] just I'm like yeah I'm almost confused as much as I am grateful.

[00:03:46] It's always a blast as you know you're our boy so we couldn't turn you down.

[00:03:50] That is awesome.

[00:03:52] I'm curious as well though is it like the world cup like after we've been on three times

[00:03:57] do we get to keep it?

[00:03:59] So do we keep the podcast?

[00:04:01] We don't keep you that would be weird.

[00:04:03] That would be weird I mean yeah the whole our boy thing got very strange so yeah I think

[00:04:08] we'll move away from that very quickly but we did actually me and Ian did discuss the

[00:04:14] idea of like a badge and I am looking into that.

[00:04:16] Like blue Peter style.

[00:04:18] Yeah I mean I want to get some proper and our ones but they are expensive so I might

[00:04:23] have to pivot to something cheaper but I don't want to because I really value

[00:04:26] people that give me their time so yes my name is Earl.

[00:04:31] Thank you for coming on.

[00:04:33] It's not entirely your fault.

[00:04:37] Oh dear.

[00:04:38] Oh dear.

[00:04:39] It was an easy one.

[00:04:40] It was an easy one.

[00:04:41] Low hanging fruit.

[00:04:42] I know and you are a dad so dad jokes are acceptable.

[00:04:45] It's absolutely fine.

[00:04:46] Absolutely yeah.

[00:04:46] Yeah I've been doing them for 20 or 20 plus years probably they just only become

[00:04:51] accessible the last 18 months or so.

[00:04:53] Okay there you go well that's fine then so yeah thank you for coming on with this

[00:04:57] one because this is a show I think I've been circling for a little while and I

[00:05:02] heard you mention it in one of your episodes.

[00:05:04] I just thought yeah there you go.

[00:05:06] Good excuse to get Graham on level the playing field amongst my pod dads and

[00:05:12] yeah have a good chat about something that I feel like is a bit of a I want

[00:05:17] to say underrated gem but I think the show is very rated in many ways I

[00:05:21] think yeah.

[00:05:22] I think it's very rated in the sense that like anything you look at all of the

[00:05:28] episodes like I think the rankings on IMDB and all that kind of stuff they're

[00:05:32] all pretty much like pretty high I think overall just like a 7.8 out of 10 which

[00:05:37] is you know pretty decent for a sitcom yeah but I think it's under appreciated

[00:05:44] I don't think enough people have seen it and it's not with two things right

[00:05:49] the whole reason we spoke by on because maybe I thought because we were doing

[00:05:55] infuriating cliffhangers and this is that you know it finishes and we can

[00:06:01] kind of get into that later bit got cancelled and then we never kind of

[00:06:04] saw where it went so that's one reason I think not as many people seen it and

[00:06:09] the second reason is like it's not it's not ended up on that kind of like

[00:06:13] channel four rotation yeah you know there's these sitcoms that just seem

[00:06:18] to run and run obviously friends is a is the is the biggest one that yeah like I

[00:06:24] think anywhere in the world at one time or another some TV station is showing

[00:06:29] friends without a shadow of it but yeah this some reason they've got that kind

[00:06:35] of replayability yeah don't know why I agree I know like E4 would have picked

[00:06:40] this up I think there was times but I know what you mean it was like that

[00:06:43] sort of had this and scrubs and a few of the other ones was as you say

[00:06:46] kind of sort of mainstay television shows like actually I wasn't so I was a

[00:06:52] engagement party like a couple of months a weeks ago even and the next day I was

[00:06:57] in the hotel room to put TV on in the morning just out of curiosity so I

[00:07:01] don't really watch threshold tell you wonder what's still on are you gonna

[00:07:05] is it everybody loves everybody that's Raymond and Frazier are still on

[00:07:09] channel four in the morning morning I don't understand it I don't unlike

[00:07:14] why but this is it who is who is genuinely who is waking up and thinking

[00:07:20] you know what before I get to work I need to catch up on everybody loves

[00:07:24] Raymond it's so strange like my first thought was like yeah I've seen this

[00:07:30] episode like three or four times like because it was just on all the time

[00:07:33] when I was like getting ready for school and I like you said yeah it's

[00:07:37] so strange those those shows are like still and any story probably like 30

[00:07:43] years old now and they're still on a repeat in the morning but like you

[00:07:46] said something like my name is oh which is a bit more modern you think yeah you

[00:07:50] could easily put that into the same rotation but it just doesn't I don't

[00:07:54] know if it's because like maybe the everybody loves Raymond that sort of

[00:07:58] stuff was was a bit more an air quotes family friendly if that makes

[00:08:02] sense yeah possibly because you get also like is it King of Queens I think

[00:08:07] it's a lot of like not something I've ever really watched by always one of

[00:08:11] these things you always see and I think the goldbergs which is a much more

[00:08:15] recent one yes again that tends to have I've seen it on like going to the gym

[00:08:20] and it's on the TV yeah eight in the morning yeah yeah it's a strange the

[00:08:25] other weird thing with like Frasier and everybody loves Raymond is one is a

[00:08:28] lot more critically acclaimed than the other yes that's so true their worlds

[00:08:33] apart in terms of you know no slight on Ray Romano but it's he's not

[00:08:39] quite a Fraser Crane is it yeah that's true that's very very true yeah but

[00:08:45] it's yeah wild but anyway yeah this this is one I think does definitely

[00:08:50] deserves a lot more love and appreciation and it's quite funny because

[00:08:55] obviously I last year did an episode with Blake Wyland from the Tome of

[00:08:59] Talking About Raising Hope which is in many ways like the spiritual

[00:09:02] sequel of this and sort of gives the show the ending and reunion that it

[00:09:07] deserved in a very fun and fitting way but yeah it's going right back to

[00:09:11] this I really want to know actually what was the what was your introduction

[00:09:15] to this show so I was trying to work this out earlier so it came out in

[00:09:21] 2005 right I was showing my age I went to uni in 2006 that's my first

[00:09:30] year of uni and I'd say early days of the internet but the internet is

[00:09:36] still fairly young at this point you don't have that Netflix is still

[00:09:43] DVDs through the post right it's not what it is today so my my

[00:09:49] entertainment at university again not having a TV or anything I had an

[00:09:54] old matter very old MacBook and that was it so it's like well what am I

[00:09:59] going to do I'm going to watch because not only can I not stream all

[00:10:04] of these things don't have TV all of the let's say improper ways of

[00:10:12] obtaining media back in 2006 were blocked on university internet as

[00:10:18] well so what I used to do is they used to be a whole ream of

[00:10:22] different shows I was kind of watching through improper means they

[00:10:28] used to download them when I went home for the weekend burn them on

[00:10:33] to because again storage I couldn't I didn't like the idea of having a

[00:10:37] terabyte hard drive back then would have cost probably about a

[00:10:40] grand I used to burn them onto data disks and then bring them back

[00:10:46] to uni with me in a like CD wallet and watch them through so this

[00:10:50] was on rotation with like scrubs lost I think onto season I

[00:10:59] would say the big thing with lost was actually I was kind of like

[00:11:03] within halls because I'd come back with like the brand new episode

[00:11:07] of loss from home everyone's like you know that was that was

[00:11:10] quite a good way of meeting people early doors in in halls but

[00:11:16] yeah it was just on my rotation I used to kind of look just

[00:11:19] kind of have a look around see what was coming up see what was

[00:11:21] what was getting good reviews and yeah it became I think it's

[00:11:26] one of the reasons I like it right not only from the fact that

[00:11:28] it's in on in its own right is a very good show but there was

[00:11:32] definitely some kind of comfort and nostalgia to like that kind

[00:11:36] of yeah watching that kind of stuff going home downloading it

[00:11:41] being able to eventually watch it and yeah so dodgy dodgy data

[00:11:50] disks in in university halls when I started watching my name

[00:11:55] as well. No worries will appreciate your confession and this

[00:11:58] will be sent to the police.

[00:12:02] Oh dear no I think it's funny that you mentioned that with like

[00:12:06] scrubs as well in that kind of era of yeah I guess what we

[00:12:10] would known as like the E4 comedies but I suppose yeah they

[00:12:13] would have come out in the States and just I think there's

[00:12:18] something about that particular style right I feel like you can

[00:12:22] look at this you can look at scrubs again I mentioned raising

[00:12:25] hopes the successor to this there's quite a few shows that

[00:12:28] kind of have this it feels like this sort of tone started

[00:12:32] becoming more common. You know it's like I don't I would

[00:12:35] describe this not as like you know we mentioned earlier

[00:12:37] everyone was Raymond for example like those straightforward

[00:12:40] in a room with an audience kind of sitcoms whereas this is

[00:12:44] more like we're going to go outdoors we're going to meet

[00:12:46] people we're going to play around things are going to

[00:12:49] just get a bit weirder you know yeah it was it's also one of

[00:12:55] those again like with scrubs moving away from the canned

[00:12:59] laughter sitcoms like friends and I'm fairly sure everybody

[00:13:04] loves Raymond is full of come after as well. And I think

[00:13:08] that's refreshing because I can't stand. Have you ever

[00:13:12] watched any of the like edits of friends without

[00:13:14] come after and how particularly with Ross as well

[00:13:18] everything Ross has just turns out to be really creepy most

[00:13:20] of the time without candle after that's that's a really

[00:13:24] good point. Yeah. Yeah. I don't see the weird cadence of

[00:13:29] speech as well because through their pausing where you

[00:13:32] wouldn't normally pause in a conversation because you're

[00:13:34] not waiting for the audience to stop laughing. Very true

[00:13:38] very true. Yeah, that's a good point. Yeah stuff like

[00:13:41] this has to kind of adapt and be different and I kind of

[00:13:44] love it for that and I even love the central premise

[00:13:47] that about you I feel like just the idea that this is a

[00:13:50] story about a guy who just wants to improve his life and

[00:13:55] make up for all the wrongs that he's done it's like that

[00:13:59] could be a drama that feels like something that could

[00:14:01] be like a really serious hard hitting like HBO kind of

[00:14:05] drama but whereas this is just a simple premise for a

[00:14:10] sitcom and it works very, very simple premise very feel

[00:14:14] good. I think as well with maybe the exception of joy, I

[00:14:20] think everyone in it is likeable as well. Yeah, that's

[00:14:23] true. I mean, and she's probably she's not the most

[00:14:26] unlike it's just of the bunch. Yeah, you're the most

[00:14:28] unlikeable. I don't know if you know, she's not

[00:14:30] necessarily evil or anything but yeah so like because

[00:14:36] there's and I've spoken about this a lot with Ian but

[00:14:40] there's a lot of sitcoms out there where actually the

[00:14:46] lead character is really unlikeable. So like how I met

[00:14:50] your mother is he's just one of the worst people around.

[00:14:55] Okay. Do you not think he's just so entitled thinks

[00:15:00] everywhere he's got he just thinks he has the

[00:15:02] absolute like, you know, and also I mean the way that

[00:15:05] it all goes in the end is like yeah, I was waiting

[00:15:07] for your mom to die so I can marry your aunt.

[00:15:09] Come on, man.

[00:15:13] Like fair enough. I mean, I will say I've done two

[00:15:16] episodes on how I met your mother. I really enjoyed

[00:15:18] the show but I do agree that he is a he is definitely a

[00:15:22] flawed protagonist and actually now that I think

[00:15:24] about it something I did discuss with Ryan, the

[00:15:26] guests on that episode flashing back is we talked

[00:15:30] about a possible theory of like why Barney

[00:15:33] Simpson is such like over the top character. Yeah.

[00:15:37] And because it's through the framing device of Ted

[00:15:40] retelling the story, he kind of posited of like maybe

[00:15:43] it's making him look worse, making Barney look worse

[00:15:47] that is so he doesn't seem that bad because when you

[00:15:49] look at it, Ted's like actually you were with a

[00:15:51] lot of women and broke a lot of hearts yourself.

[00:15:53] Like you weren't completely unscathed in all of this.

[00:15:58] So it's an interesting thing you throw up there.

[00:16:00] I'm like, okay, okay. But yeah, continue, continue.

[00:16:03] I think I really like the show. I just think Ted

[00:16:06] is absolutely awful. And I also, um, community as well.

[00:16:12] I find Joel McCall's character pretty horrendous as well.

[00:16:15] Yeah. That's yeah. Also fair. Also fair. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:16:21] So yeah, I don't know but this is very much like, you

[00:16:24] know, earlier it was a very lovable character. He's

[00:16:26] obviously flawed. That's kind of the whole point of it.

[00:16:29] But flawed in a way that doesn't, you know,

[00:16:32] kind of make him particularly grotesque.

[00:16:35] Yeah, that's true. That's true. And it's, it's a thing, isn't

[00:16:39] it about different types of sitcoms? I mean, we spoke last

[00:16:42] time you and Ian came on. We had a good chat about it's

[00:16:45] always sunny and obviously the whole thing of that is they're

[00:16:48] all being spirited. They're all terrible people that never

[00:16:51] learn. All awful. Yeah. And there's, there's a lot of

[00:16:53] fun to be had with that for sure. But it is nice to

[00:16:57] have one that's a show that's kind of a contrast

[00:16:58] to all of that, right?

[00:17:00] They're kind of like the antithesis of each other.

[00:17:02] Very much so. Yeah. They are the two, two ends of the

[00:17:05] comedy, the sitcom spectrum. Absolutely. Yeah.

[00:17:09] My name is El too. It's always sunny.

[00:17:13] It's like in it's always sunny if Charlie realized that

[00:17:16] like ticking things off a list would make things

[00:17:18] better or Charlie discovers karma. Yeah. Like he'd be

[00:17:22] finding out a way to like game it. Yeah. Without a

[00:17:25] doubt. That's true. Which would still be hilarious.

[00:17:28] But yeah, I don't know. My name is El. It's just like

[00:17:31] it's just got a lot of heart, I think. It's probably the

[00:17:34] best way of describing it. Yeah. Yeah. And it just works,

[00:17:38] I think, in that way and it leads to a lot of really

[00:17:41] just fun sort of incidents. I think actually just as

[00:17:46] a narrative device, as a framing device, it's

[00:17:48] also a really good way of being able to bring in

[00:17:50] guest actors as well, right? As Earl goes down the

[00:17:54] list. It's like, oh, I did this one thing to this

[00:17:56] one person and then that gives you freedom as a

[00:17:59] creator to go, right? Who can we get? You know, and

[00:18:02] who's that going to be? Yeah. And then just go from

[00:18:04] there. And I think they use that very well. That's

[00:18:06] something we talk about a lot in these episodes is

[00:18:10] a show's use of guest cast, guest actors as much as

[00:18:13] the main cast. And yeah, I think they do really

[00:18:15] well with this. There's some really great cameos

[00:18:17] in it. There's a lot of really fun premises

[00:18:19] they have. I mean, I'm just I've immediately

[00:18:22] thinking of one. I'm going to jump really far

[00:18:23] ahead here. But there's an episode where we find

[00:18:28] out who Mr. Who Crabsman's dad is, and there's a

[00:18:33] whole subplot with that. I'm just trying to look up

[00:18:36] the actor. So Darnell, but everyone calls him

[00:18:38] crab man. Well, Earl calls him crab. Yeah, which

[00:18:40] is the whole thing. That actor, by the way, is

[00:18:43] absolutely awesome. Because again, we're just

[00:18:45] going to jump around to all our characters. Where

[00:18:47] is he? That reminds me, I'm DbJingle. What

[00:18:53] is he?

[00:19:01] Ladies and gentlemen, it's time to IMTV.

[00:19:12] So Eddie Steeples just absolutely knocks out the

[00:19:15] park as Darnell first off. I'll just say that. But

[00:19:18] yeah, who is it? There's a very famous actor

[00:19:21] that plays his dad in an episode.

[00:19:27] I want to say it's like Carl Weathers or something

[00:19:29] like that. I think it's something absolutely

[00:19:33] ridiculous. Danny Glover. Is Danny Glover there?

[00:19:37] Danny Glover. Yes, thank you. Incredible.

[00:19:41] Incredible use of Danny Glover in that whole

[00:19:44] episode. So you were in the CIA or the FBI?

[00:19:49] Even more secretive than that. Don't tell me.

[00:19:52] IRS. PBS? TCBY?

[00:19:55] Actually, we'll see. BYLB.

[00:19:58] Son, you getting on my last note?

[00:20:01] Yeah, I think being able to pull in names like

[00:20:05] that as well, like you say is. But it just it does

[00:20:10] lend itself to that because it's kind of if

[00:20:13] anything, it's kind of an anthology show. Right?

[00:20:15] Right. Yeah.

[00:20:17] But yeah, no, you're really I've I'm racking

[00:20:20] my brains nuts. So basically to so I haven't

[00:20:25] I've spoke about with Ian, which is when you

[00:20:27] kind of got in contact and then I was like

[00:20:30] absolutely down for it, but I haven't watched

[00:20:33] this in nearly 20 years. No worries.

[00:20:37] So I was like, right, I'm going to try and get

[00:20:39] a few episodes in. Unfortunately,

[00:20:43] being the father of an 18 month old,

[00:20:45] I spent most of my time watching something

[00:20:48] called Tracto Ted, which is definitely not.

[00:20:53] My name is so I've snatched a few episodes

[00:20:57] here and there just to try and remind myself

[00:21:00] of it. But yeah, my knowledge of all of the

[00:21:03] guest actors is definitely going to be very

[00:21:06] Google. That's fine. I am jumping around a bit

[00:21:08] anyway, but it's just something that sprung

[00:21:10] to my mind if just talking about the

[00:21:12] narrative device of it all. Another one,

[00:21:14] more recent one, Ben Foster as the prison

[00:21:18] prisoner that gets locked up with and

[00:21:21] like turns out he portrayed him in some way

[00:21:23] and there's like a whole arc that goes with

[00:21:25] him. One of the best character actors out

[00:21:27] there, by the way, like a guy that does he

[00:21:30] have an Oscar? I feel like he should have

[00:21:31] an Oscar if he doesn't have one already.

[00:21:33] But yeah, one of those when that came

[00:21:35] that episode came around, I almost jumped

[00:21:37] out of my seat. I was like, that's Ben

[00:21:38] Foster. What?

[00:21:41] I'm going to slash you till November

[00:21:43] rains and I'm going to put my axle

[00:21:45] in your rose.

[00:21:48] Yeah, baby.

[00:21:51] Yeah, I'm just looking through just

[00:21:53] reminding myself the fact they had

[00:21:55] Bert Reynolds and Norm Macdonald

[00:21:57] Norm Macdonald playing Bert Reynolds

[00:21:59] son is right. Yeah.

[00:22:01] It's brilliant.

[00:22:03] Absolutely love.

[00:22:04] I have a friend of mine basically

[00:22:07] that own like we obviously talk here

[00:22:10] and there and what not.

[00:22:12] But I'd say his main form of communication

[00:22:14] is sending me old Norm Macdonald things

[00:22:16] on Instagram, just like reels

[00:22:19] of Norm Macdonald on chat shows

[00:22:21] with Ken and Brian.

[00:22:22] That's tends to be the if I if I kind

[00:22:24] of credible if there was a pie chart

[00:22:26] that would be about 70 percent of it.

[00:22:28] Awesome. Absolutely awesome.

[00:22:31] Oh, that's so good.

[00:22:32] Oh, Judy Greer.

[00:22:33] Absolutely love Judy Greer as well.

[00:22:36] Yes. Yeah.

[00:22:37] John Favreau.

[00:22:38] It's like again, it's a really

[00:22:39] interesting one. They just pull all

[00:22:41] of these people out.

[00:22:42] But anyway, to save more heavy

[00:22:44] Googling and to sort of backpedal

[00:22:46] a little bit, let's go back to the

[00:22:47] main cast. I mean, I'll stick with

[00:22:49] Darnell for a minute because I've kind

[00:22:50] of picked on him.

[00:22:52] I feel like at least people should

[00:22:53] be in more stuff.

[00:22:55] I don't know about you.

[00:22:57] I don't know if I've actually seen

[00:22:59] him in anything else.

[00:23:01] So I'm just having a quick look.

[00:23:04] According to I and to be here has

[00:23:05] been in a few things

[00:23:07] or since but nothing

[00:23:10] not a lot. He's done a lot of

[00:23:11] shorts it seems. He's done some

[00:23:13] producer credits and stuff as well.

[00:23:15] And yeah,

[00:23:15] a few of the bits and bobs were gone.

[00:23:17] He is also apparently in the

[00:23:19] Nicholas Cage film, Jiu Jitsu.

[00:23:21] Oh, well, there you go then.

[00:23:22] That's fine.

[00:23:25] Which is absolutely

[00:23:27] I've I've only seen about

[00:23:29] five minutes of it, which I

[00:23:31] walk which this sounds weird, but

[00:23:33] I walked in on him and watching it

[00:23:34] when he was

[00:23:37] he and briefly lived at

[00:23:40] my most he was waiting for his

[00:23:41] house to sell to go through.

[00:23:42] And

[00:23:42] and yeah, he was so he.

[00:23:47] Ian has a tradition of

[00:23:49] on his birthday every year

[00:23:51] he will watch Nicholas Cage movie

[00:23:52] and it just so happened that

[00:23:54] year he was watching Jiu Jitsu

[00:23:56] and I don't know where I was

[00:23:58] but came back home and

[00:23:59] yeah, he was hard and he was just

[00:24:00] like he had to rewind this bit

[00:24:02] to show me and it's just absolutely

[00:24:04] I mean, as you can expect,

[00:24:05] it's terrible.

[00:24:07] But I'm looking at the trailer

[00:24:08] and all I can think is

[00:24:10] you need to add this to your

[00:24:11] good bag movie league.

[00:24:12] Yeah, it's it.

[00:24:15] Well, you know, you can

[00:24:17] that's the birthday episode.

[00:24:19] So if you want to chuck in there is

[00:24:20] a suggestion, Harley.

[00:24:21] He's absolutely will.

[00:24:24] I mean, I feel like Nicholas Cage films

[00:24:25] are we discussed this.

[00:24:26] We discussed this on the good

[00:24:27] bad movie episode.

[00:24:29] Go back and listen to this.

[00:24:30] Anyway, yeah.

[00:24:32] No fair play.

[00:24:32] He should be more stuff

[00:24:33] because I genuinely think in this

[00:24:35] kind of film is film.

[00:24:36] Sorry. This series.

[00:24:38] He's brilliant.

[00:24:40] I feel like he's one of those

[00:24:40] actors that just gets it.

[00:24:44] You know, and it's quite an

[00:24:45] interesting relationship as well

[00:24:46] because the whole premise obviously

[00:24:48] being that like

[00:24:49] he's the guy that Joy cheated

[00:24:52] on Earl with.

[00:24:54] But and almost like you're

[00:24:56] setting that character up.

[00:24:57] That could be a very unlikable

[00:24:59] sort of like an antagonist

[00:25:01] kind of character.

[00:25:03] But he's just so nice

[00:25:04] and likeable and friendly

[00:25:05] and like you can't help but

[00:25:07] like him, you know?

[00:25:10] Like even Earl does.

[00:25:11] Exactly.

[00:25:12] I think it goes for two reasons.

[00:25:14] One, because he is such a nice guy

[00:25:15] and two, because he kind of got him

[00:25:17] out of the situation of being with Joy.

[00:25:18] Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

[00:25:19] That's it.

[00:25:20] I feel like it's kind of like

[00:25:21] that was actually a good thing.

[00:25:23] Yeah. Yeah.

[00:25:24] This is it.

[00:25:25] And the way he sort of plays off

[00:25:26] of that, I think is really good fun.

[00:25:28] And as I said, I do enjoy

[00:25:29] the arc because he's such a

[00:25:31] just.

[00:25:32] I don't know, a very calm

[00:25:35] character and very quiet throughout.

[00:25:37] Yeah. And I love that they

[00:25:38] kept sprinkling in the

[00:25:40] idea that he had a name change

[00:25:42] and, you know, he wasn't who

[00:25:44] he said he was.

[00:25:45] And then the reveal of that is

[00:25:46] is him with Danny Glover

[00:25:48] being a spy.

[00:25:49] And that's just

[00:25:51] such a ridiculous like, yeah,

[00:25:53] of course, that's where you end up

[00:25:55] with that.

[00:25:56] you know, the kind of guy who

[00:25:58] graduated college at 14

[00:25:59] is a virtuoso cellist

[00:26:01] and can identify 254

[00:26:03] varieties of cheese in a blind taste

[00:26:05] test, but can't reveal any of that

[00:26:07] because he's in the witness

[00:26:08] protection program.

[00:26:10] Well, that's me.

[00:26:11] Don't tell anyone I told you this.

[00:26:13] My name is, well,

[00:26:15] you better just call me crab man.

[00:26:19] Yeah.

[00:26:20] Well, I love it.

[00:26:20] He's so central to the

[00:26:22] the cliffhanger in the

[00:26:24] cancellation.

[00:26:26] The whole cancellation was that

[00:26:27] it turns out that

[00:26:28] because El Jr.

[00:26:30] wasn't Darnell's,

[00:26:31] which is obviously as you

[00:26:33] kind of assume for the whole way

[00:26:35] through, which

[00:26:37] kind of feels like it hurts a bit

[00:26:38] more than like

[00:26:41] El's kids not being El's

[00:26:43] right, because obviously they're not.

[00:26:44] But like El was kind of,

[00:26:46] you know, him and Joy are kind of both

[00:26:48] at least prior to the show

[00:26:51] starting like floor really

[00:26:53] floor people.

[00:26:54] Darnell, other than yeah, OK,

[00:26:55] he cheated on that.

[00:26:57] He was he was the cheaty

[00:26:59] in the whole situation, but he's

[00:27:01] he's such a nice guy.

[00:27:02] You kind of feel even worse for him.

[00:27:03] But true.

[00:27:05] True.

[00:27:05] Yeah.

[00:27:06] I was really have you seen that

[00:27:08] because they apparently

[00:27:11] Garcia, Greg Garcia, who created

[00:27:13] did an AMA back in 2013.

[00:27:16] Yeah.

[00:27:17] And it was asked about like

[00:27:19] who was El Jr.'s real father

[00:27:21] and does or never finish the list?

[00:27:23] Kind of the thing.

[00:27:24] Yeah.

[00:27:24] The left left unsaid.

[00:27:27] But they kind of

[00:27:30] they hadn't fully figured out

[00:27:31] who the father was going to be.

[00:27:33] But the plan was that it was

[00:27:34] just going to be someone like really

[00:27:35] famous that had just kind of come

[00:27:37] through town and Joy had had a fling

[00:27:38] with some of the suggestions

[00:27:40] were like Dave Chappelle or little

[00:27:42] John. Wow.

[00:27:45] Which would have been good fun.

[00:27:47] That's wild.

[00:27:48] I mean, to be fair as well,

[00:27:50] the show was building at such a

[00:27:51] point there where I reckon they

[00:27:52] could have got someone like that.

[00:27:54] For just a quick cameo easily.

[00:27:57] Yeah.

[00:27:58] I think absolutely.

[00:27:59] And that's the whole kind of crazy

[00:28:00] thing because as we talk like it

[00:28:02] didn't it's at the time

[00:28:04] it was the time around like I

[00:28:05] think the writer's strike had

[00:28:06] happened throughout its run.

[00:28:10] Which wasn't the reason it got

[00:28:11] cancelled and it wasn't

[00:28:13] ratings dropping off or anything

[00:28:14] like that. It was basically

[00:28:16] that the network

[00:28:18] and studio couldn't agree

[00:28:21] on funding for the next season

[00:28:24] it never went through.

[00:28:26] And that was it got cancelled,

[00:28:27] got canned. Yeah.

[00:28:28] And it was back in this

[00:28:30] like I think

[00:28:34] TV in 2006,

[00:28:37] 2007 I think

[00:28:39] what would have been 2008

[00:28:40] when it got cancelled.

[00:28:43] It's just such a different beast

[00:28:44] to what it is now.

[00:28:45] So yeah.

[00:28:47] You're on these 24 episode seasons

[00:28:50] which is kind of unheard of

[00:28:52] in streaming today.

[00:28:54] Right? There's the odd thing

[00:28:55] that kind of goes that long

[00:28:56] but typically maybe

[00:28:58] anywhere between 10 and 15

[00:28:59] episodes for something.

[00:29:02] You're a slave to the network

[00:29:03] in terms of like run times

[00:29:05] and ads and all that kind of stuff

[00:29:07] and you're a slave to the network

[00:29:08] in times of like

[00:29:10] are you making this money

[00:29:11] and if you're not getting the

[00:29:12] ratings then we're going to cut

[00:29:13] you but then again also

[00:29:15] if there's so many other things

[00:29:17] making money and you can't agree

[00:29:18] on stuff like just gets chopped.

[00:29:21] Yeah, yeah, which is wild.

[00:29:23] Absolutely wild to think about

[00:29:24] especially like I said

[00:29:25] this was really like in the high

[00:29:26] of its powers around that time.

[00:29:28] Which is yeah.

[00:29:29] Yeah, I think they were like

[00:29:30] averaging something like 10

[00:29:32] minute.

[00:29:34] Season four

[00:29:35] they were on 6.6 million

[00:29:39] live viewers.

[00:29:41] Oh, that's for the sorry for the

[00:29:42] yeah, average of viewers

[00:29:45] season one 10.9

[00:29:47] so it had come down

[00:29:48] but like it's still

[00:29:50] you know, not doing too badly.

[00:29:52] Yeah, that's wild.

[00:29:54] I mean, I'd be quite happy

[00:29:55] with six million.

[00:29:58] Downloads.

[00:29:58] Not going to lie.

[00:30:03] I take the point six to be fair.

[00:30:06] That's good.

[00:30:06] Yeah, yeah, I was going to say

[00:30:07] point point six was the dream

[00:30:09] absolutely but

[00:30:11] it's just yeah, wild

[00:30:13] to think that's happened

[00:30:14] but and a real shame

[00:30:15] because you kind of think

[00:30:16] people like

[00:30:17] yeah, just looking at the rest

[00:30:18] of the cast like you said

[00:30:19] like Eddie Steeple's

[00:30:20] I mean, you mentioned joy

[00:30:21] Jamie Presley that plays joy.

[00:30:23] You think a lot of them

[00:30:24] it kind of seems like

[00:30:25] their careers were really hurt by that.

[00:30:27] You know, like they obviously

[00:30:28] went on to do other things

[00:30:30] but

[00:30:31] none of them sort of have

[00:30:32] like a huge

[00:30:34] you know, career back of it, you know.

[00:30:37] No, Ethan Supleys

[00:30:39] maybe the most successful

[00:30:40] but then also he was kind of

[00:30:43] a American History Act.

[00:30:45] Yeah, him and Jason Lee

[00:30:46] like having and having

[00:30:47] for prior acting experience

[00:30:49] like bigger stuff.

[00:30:50] Yeah, I think it definitely helps them.

[00:30:53] Yeah.

[00:30:55] He's not done.

[00:30:56] I've not seen him in anything in a while

[00:30:58] but he also went down

[00:30:59] because he's he got like really ripped

[00:31:02] and become like age.

[00:31:03] Yep, something didn't he?

[00:31:04] Yep, yep, yep, yep, which is.

[00:31:06] Kind of mad but it's wild.

[00:31:09] Also, I also have to give

[00:31:11] a huge amount of credit

[00:31:13] to Ethan Supley

[00:31:14] because the main things

[00:31:15] I've seen him in

[00:31:16] I've seen a few things

[00:31:17] but the main thing is

[00:31:18] in my name is El

[00:31:19] and American History Acts

[00:31:20] and those two characters

[00:31:22] could not be further

[00:31:24] each other.

[00:31:25] Yeah.

[00:31:26] You can say that again.

[00:31:29] But to be able to play them

[00:31:31] like I'm both really convincingly,

[00:31:34] I think is is yeah, no mean feat.

[00:31:37] It's so true.

[00:31:38] Yeah, I mean.

[00:31:40] I think this must be the real joy

[00:31:41] of getting booked in for a show

[00:31:44] like this is being able to explore

[00:31:47] this side of

[00:31:50] of your acting range, right?

[00:31:52] And what I can't one thing

[00:31:53] I do love what I'm talking about

[00:31:54] Ethan Supley, like one thing

[00:31:55] I do like about the character of Randy is

[00:31:58] I feel like at this point

[00:32:00] in in Hollywood

[00:32:02] you could very easily make him

[00:32:04] just the butt of all the fat jokes, right?

[00:32:07] And you could make it all about that.

[00:32:10] Which a lot of shows have done,

[00:32:11] you know, a lot of shows.

[00:32:12] I mean, yeah, that's the joke

[00:32:14] for some of those characters,

[00:32:16] unfortunately.

[00:32:17] But what's really funny

[00:32:18] about Randy is it's like

[00:32:19] it goes all over the place.

[00:32:20] Like I think the main

[00:32:22] throughliners he's he's a bit dim.

[00:32:24] Like he's yeah, but he's a well meaning.

[00:32:28] You know, he's and

[00:32:30] it's he has some of the best.

[00:32:32] I love dropping in clips.

[00:32:33] I will look this up, but I just remember

[00:32:35] him having like a bunch of incredible

[00:32:39] sort of one liners and like

[00:32:41] when I get my talks about raising hope.

[00:32:44] The character I think Martha Plimson

[00:32:46] who plays the mum has like this

[00:32:47] amazing thing of just dropping in these

[00:32:50] phrases that aren't phrases

[00:32:52] and she delivers them so well.

[00:32:54] And you're like, it's really, really funny.

[00:32:55] And I feel like Randy has a similar thing

[00:32:57] of like he has a lot of these epiphanies

[00:32:58] or like words of wisdom

[00:33:00] that don't make any sense.

[00:33:02] And he'll just he'll sprinkle them in

[00:33:03] and other characters just sort of look and go,

[00:33:06] is that I don't think that's the expression

[00:33:07] that they just move on.

[00:33:09] And again, I think it takes a real talent

[00:33:10] for an actor to be able to say that,

[00:33:13] you know, with such great comic timing

[00:33:15] and he does it consistently throughout the show.

[00:33:19] Maybe you should listen to Catalina.

[00:33:21] She's a woman just like Natalie.

[00:33:23] They're both women, her and Natalie.

[00:33:25] You and I are men. We're not women.

[00:33:27] Sometimes Randy takes a long road to a simple thought.

[00:33:31] You see, men think different than women.

[00:33:33] You and I think different than Natalie and Catalina

[00:33:36] because we're men and they're women.

[00:33:39] I'm not right, right? I'm not wrong.

[00:33:41] Am I wrong? No.

[00:33:46] Yeah. And to deliver it like dead.

[00:33:49] Yeah, yeah. I think is is difficult.

[00:33:53] But yeah, I definitely I think he's I think it's great in it

[00:33:56] and is just a very, very funny character.

[00:34:00] And it's I also love his kind of like

[00:34:02] his relationship with Catalina in it.

[00:34:04] Oh, yeah. I forgot about that. Yeah.

[00:34:07] It's great.

[00:34:08] That goes places. He also.

[00:34:10] He also gets back to you.

[00:34:11] Yeah.

[00:34:12] Yeah.

[00:34:13] And also again, I the only other thing I've ever seen her in was

[00:34:18] the league. I don't know if you've ever watched the league.

[00:34:21] I did not.

[00:34:21] Fantasy football.

[00:34:22] It's basically a sitcom about fantasy football.

[00:34:25] OK.

[00:34:27] Which is American fantasy.

[00:34:29] It's great that she a weirdly.

[00:34:35] So it ran its full course.

[00:34:37] It was it was very good.

[00:34:38] It had.

[00:34:41] Jason Manzuchus was in it and

[00:34:45] Mark Duplus, Nick Kroll is in it as well.

[00:34:50] Like it's wow. It's pretty decent.

[00:34:51] Yeah.

[00:34:52] So she was in it for a bit, but weirdly

[00:34:56] it doesn't you can't kind of watch it anywhere anymore

[00:34:59] because one of the other main characters, I forget the guy's name

[00:35:04] basically ended up being disgraced

[00:35:05] because he he lied about being at the World Trade Center on 9 11.

[00:35:10] Oh, no.

[00:35:11] No idea why I can't I still can't get my head round it.

[00:35:15] But basically has like killed this whole

[00:35:19] this whole franchise because they've just kind of like we're not

[00:35:22] no studio or streaming platform wants anything to do with that.

[00:35:26] That's wild.

[00:35:27] That's absolutely wild.

[00:35:29] That's almost as wild as Marky Mark in his opinions on what would have happened.

[00:35:34] Had he been there, I'm not going to repeat it, folks, Google it.

[00:35:37] But it's just

[00:35:40] because he was meant to be on one of the flights or something.

[00:35:44] Yeah, yeah, as a whole thing as a whole spiel.

[00:35:48] Yeah, it's hot takes all round from these people.

[00:35:51] You just think just just don't.

[00:35:53] I don't know about you.

[00:35:54] I wouldn't want to touch something like that with a barge pole, you know?

[00:35:57] I just don't know.

[00:35:59] I will cast her if you say here, Holly,

[00:36:01] I've never lied about being other Twin Towers at 9 11.

[00:36:04] And I never will like wise.

[00:36:08] It's such an easy thing not to lie about.

[00:36:11] It's bizarre.

[00:36:13] Yeah, like the only the only like.

[00:36:17] I assume it's true, but like because the weird thing is, is like

[00:36:21] there's a butterfly effect from 9 11 to the Twilight series.

[00:36:28] You aware of this? No.

[00:36:31] So basically, let me know.

[00:36:35] I'm just going to.

[00:36:37] You can Google and we'll invoke the jingle.

[00:36:44] It's time to Google.

[00:36:49] So sorry.

[00:36:52] It goes further.

[00:36:53] Night. So 9 11.

[00:36:55] It's 50 shades of gray.

[00:36:57] Oh wow. OK.

[00:37:00] So 9 11 happened and Jared Way of My Chemical Romance

[00:37:06] was living in New York and

[00:37:10] in order to help process the trauma and grief of living through the event

[00:37:13] began writing songs and therefore ended up creating My Chemical Romance.

[00:37:18] I did know that one. Yes.

[00:37:20] Stephanie Meyer wrote Twilight

[00:37:24] after she was inspired by her own crush on Jared Way

[00:37:27] in My Chemical Romance. Right.

[00:37:31] And the 50 shades of gray

[00:37:34] started as a fan fiction of Twilight.

[00:37:38] So there is a direct

[00:37:42] cause and effect from 9 11 to 50 shades of gray.

[00:37:48] Huh. Yeah.

[00:37:53] Obviously, what we were going to talk about on an episode of obviously

[00:37:56] my name is a natural path in this conversation.

[00:38:01] That genuinely blow my mind.

[00:38:04] Imagine the butterfly effect if my name is or wasn't canceled.

[00:38:10] But this is yeah, this is what world will we be living in?

[00:38:16] Probably one without raising hope, which is a shame,

[00:38:18] because I really like that show. But yeah, it's hmm.

[00:38:23] Hmm.

[00:38:23] Hmm. Interesting.

[00:38:26] It was that was quite a kind of Kermit gutter all the

[00:38:31] it was. Thank you. Yeah.

[00:38:35] Yeah, I've actually never watched raising hope.

[00:38:39] You should if you enjoyed the show genuinely, it is the spiritual sequel

[00:38:42] and written by the same people.

[00:38:44] And there's lots of my name as our references in it.

[00:38:47] Yeah, good reason.

[00:38:48] I mean,

[00:38:50] yeah, there's so much and all the cast pop up in different ways

[00:38:54] as different characters and they get like a fun reunion in it.

[00:38:58] And it's it's just a nice reminder because it was the chemistry

[00:39:01] of all of these people together.

[00:39:03] I've forgotten about it and I'm sort of because I've watched

[00:39:05] my name is Audrey in lockdown.

[00:39:07] It's on Disney plus folks and I had a really good time watching it

[00:39:13] and then I found that show and was just really great back to back stuff.

[00:39:18] And yeah, again, just it is the chemistry of the cast that just

[00:39:21] really pulled me in on this and the premise and

[00:39:24] I find it so enjoyable.

[00:39:26] I think it's one I'm definitely go back and rewatch and give it another go.

[00:39:30] I mean, we were talking about Ethan stuff like I mean him him and

[00:39:34] Jason Lee are just as brothers, I think

[00:39:37] I could watch that for hours like genuinely their back and forth is absolutely incredible.

[00:39:42] Yeah, it's also like entirely believable.

[00:39:46] That's what I mean. It's just that they are related.

[00:39:49] Yeah, it feels so natural the way they just are with each other

[00:39:53] and it definitely has that big brother little brother dynamic.

[00:39:57] You know, and even so it's what they squabble or disagree because like

[00:40:00] that's the interesting thing about this right is

[00:40:05] let's go back.

[00:40:06] Earl is on this big journey of like self discovery and changing who he is

[00:40:12] and everything else.

[00:40:14] And Randy is just such a good brother like he's just immediately supportive

[00:40:18] of him doing this.

[00:40:20] Yeah, even though like prior to that he was quite happy just to get involved

[00:40:24] with all of Earl schemes, you know, and do whatever.

[00:40:29] He's he's very impressionable.

[00:40:31] Oh yeah, for sure.

[00:40:32] He's very much just like along for the ride, whether it's good, bad or ugly.

[00:40:37] Yeah, that's very, very true.

[00:40:39] That's very true.

[00:40:41] But he's loyal and it's really sweet.

[00:40:45] Hmm.

[00:40:46] Yeah, no, I think I think Lowell's he is probably the his number one attribute

[00:40:50] after being a little bit dim.

[00:40:52] Yeah, that's true.

[00:40:53] It's very true.

[00:40:55] Yeah, really, really sweet.

[00:40:58] Yeah, I mean, I was talking about Earl as well, the main character.

[00:41:03] Yeah, I find it absolutely brilliant watching this because

[00:41:07] I hadn't really seen a lot of Jason Lee prior to this.

[00:41:10] Like my only other exposure to him at this point was syndrome

[00:41:14] and the Incredibles, which I mean, he's awesome.

[00:41:18] He does a fantastic work with that.

[00:41:19] But obviously you go back in and you realize, oh yeah, this guy was like a huge

[00:41:22] actor in sort of 90s and early 2000s.

[00:41:25] I got in a lot of big movies.

[00:41:29] Yeah, I kind of I knew more but the my name is old type.

[00:41:33] I think probably is the it was the first thing I'd seen him in.

[00:41:38] But I knew him more as a skater than anything else because he was kind of

[00:41:44] big into the I mean, yeah, he that's that's kind of what he came up

[00:41:48] as a as a skateboarder.

[00:41:53] Got feeling he's maybe in some of the early like Tony Hawk pro skater

[00:41:57] games as a playable character.

[00:42:01] Possibly.

[00:42:02] Yeah.

[00:42:03] But yeah, he's that's kind of what I knew him before.

[00:42:06] And then he was old as that skateboarders in my name is rather than

[00:42:11] kind of really being aware that he's he was in anything else.

[00:42:15] Because I know he's friendly with Kevin Smith.

[00:42:20] There we go.

[00:42:21] Yeah, yeah, I think he's in more rats and dogma.

[00:42:25] Yeah.

[00:42:25] And Chase and Amy's in it.

[00:42:26] He's been quite a few.

[00:42:28] Yeah.

[00:42:29] Yeah.

[00:42:30] I've just seen this has blown my mind.

[00:42:32] So he is in a movie in 1999 called Mumford.

[00:42:40] What?

[00:42:43] Also fantastic name Skip Skip.

[00:42:46] Oh my goodness me.

[00:42:53] I'm sorry that this this has actually blown my mind.

[00:42:56] I have how have I never heard of this film in a small town of

[00:42:59] Mumford a psychologist the same name moves in quickly and becomes

[00:43:02] very popular despite a questionable past.

[00:43:04] It's a dark comedy.

[00:43:06] You know what you're doing this weekend?

[00:43:08] I'm 100% seeking out this movie.

[00:43:14] Wow.

[00:43:17] Oh, it's very Deschanels.

[00:43:19] Yes, Martin Short.

[00:43:20] Martin Short Ted Danson.

[00:43:23] Jason Ritter Elizabeth Moss.

[00:43:28] Simon Hellberg.

[00:43:30] Uh huh.

[00:43:30] Uh huh.

[00:43:31] Yeah.

[00:43:31] There you go.

[00:43:33] I'm going to track this movie down.

[00:43:36] Sorry, that just genuinely blew my mind.

[00:43:40] Going through Simon D.B.

[00:43:41] I was thinking like yeah almost famous and it's like the year before he's in a

[00:43:46] film called Mumford.

[00:43:47] That's possibly the strangest thing I've ever discovered doing this podcast.

[00:43:52] Yeah, you go.

[00:43:53] There we go.

[00:43:54] Happy to be here.

[00:43:55] Yes, you're here for a momentous discovery.

[00:43:58] I don't want to like lower your expectations or anything.

[00:44:02] Sure.

[00:44:02] The budget was $28 million and it made 4.6 at the box office.

[00:44:06] Yeah, I mean it's like a 6 out of 10 on INDP but it could be fine.

[00:44:13] I just...

[00:44:13] Right, okay now I have to know this right.

[00:44:16] Here's the town of Mumford at real thing.

[00:44:18] Second Google.

[00:44:21] It's time to Google again.

[00:44:25] There's a Mumford in New York, Mumford in Ghana.

[00:44:29] It's Oregon in this movie.

[00:44:31] Oregon, Mumford, Oregon.

[00:44:34] Doesn't look to be.

[00:44:36] Nope, it's just a movie.

[00:44:38] Yeah.

[00:44:39] That's wild.

[00:44:41] Anywho.

[00:44:43] So many tangents on this episode.

[00:44:45] It's great.

[00:44:45] I love it.

[00:44:47] Sorry if you're here looking for an in depth discussion on my name as well.

[00:44:50] You're not going to find it but I'm having fun.

[00:44:54] I'm just trying to see if he was in anything called Jones but doesn't it look like it?

[00:44:57] I know that.

[00:44:58] Right, there's got to be a Jones movie.

[00:45:01] Third Google.

[00:45:06] Mr. Jones.

[00:45:09] Yes, I was going to say 2019.

[00:45:11] Oh, it's like a communist thriller of some sort.

[00:45:19] James Norton.

[00:45:21] Vanessa Kirby.

[00:45:22] Okay.

[00:45:23] You have a Skarsguard in it.

[00:45:26] Nice.

[00:45:28] Can't be a Peter.

[00:45:29] Yeah, we can pick up with our sitcom idea featuring the Skarsguard family.

[00:45:35] This is very true.

[00:45:37] It looks like it's a Polish movie.

[00:45:40] Citizens and Jones is the local translation.

[00:45:46] It was selected to compete for the Golden Bear at the 69th Berlin International Film Festival.

[00:45:52] The Golden Bear, that's so much better than the Palm Door isn't it?

[00:45:55] That is.

[00:45:55] I want a Golden Bear.

[00:45:58] It does sound a little bit...

[00:46:01] It strikes up like I imagine Putin has a Golden Bear next to his bed.

[00:46:07] Oh, yeah.

[00:46:10] He just hangs his silk robe on it every night.

[00:46:14] It says number one president on it, office style.

[00:46:19] Because that man is a psychopath.

[00:46:21] But anyway, moving on.

[00:46:24] And a narcissist.

[00:46:26] Yeah, moving on, moving on before we get targeted by bots.

[00:46:31] Jason Lee.

[00:46:32] Awesome.

[00:46:33] Awesome, absolutely.

[00:46:34] I think genuinely...

[00:46:37] I'm very well for myself anyway, but just a really lovely character, really fun.

[00:46:42] Love the fact.

[00:46:44] As I said before, the whole thing is him just trying to improve his life.

[00:46:47] I do think there were some misfires in some of the stuff he went through.

[00:46:52] Like I don't know about you, there's a whole arc.

[00:46:55] I don't know if you remember this, but he...

[00:46:58] So it's actually, it's to do with Ben Foster because he has a girlfriend

[00:47:04] and O'Fool's in love with the girlfriend.

[00:47:06] And there's a whole thing about that for like the most of the season.

[00:47:10] Then they get married and then in like two episodes, he wants to divorce.

[00:47:16] Right.

[00:47:17] And then she goes...

[00:47:18] Then she tries to kill him and then she joins a nunnery and it's a whole like...

[00:47:21] It's a very like...

[00:47:22] It feels like they had an actor.

[00:47:26] You know, because their chemistry was really good and it felt like,

[00:47:28] oh cool, all right, he's gonna have a wife.

[00:47:31] I remember watching it and going like we're like two seasons in at a four

[00:47:35] and they're gonna marry him.

[00:47:36] That's interesting.

[00:47:38] Maybe she's going to be around.

[00:47:39] And then it kind of feels like maybe they just had the actor

[00:47:41] and then halfway through the series when, oh, she's been booked for something else.

[00:47:44] We need to write her out of this very quickly.

[00:47:48] Yeah, I mean, I hate to be that guy, but...

[00:47:53] How I met your mother went for eight seasons of him chasing one person

[00:47:57] in one season that lasted like two days at a hotel for a wedding

[00:48:02] and then they killed her off and then he got back with the person

[00:48:05] that he was chasing for nine seasons or whatever it was.

[00:48:07] So...

[00:48:08] Two-shade.

[00:48:08] I mean, two-shade sir.

[00:48:10] Two-shade.

[00:48:12] Very well played.

[00:48:14] If anything, they got a lot of meaningful relationship out of that

[00:48:20] and no one had to die.

[00:48:21] That's very true.

[00:48:23] That's, yeah, point one made.

[00:48:27] Well, but yeah, it's not perfect,

[00:48:30] but I think the missteps are few and far between.

[00:48:34] Oh, yeah, it's not a big deal.

[00:48:36] It's not aged massively in those bits of it.

[00:48:41] Because as I said, I picked up and started,

[00:48:43] I think I probably watched about the first four episodes

[00:48:46] over the last sort of, I mean, few months,

[00:48:49] which really tells you how much time I've got to watch things.

[00:48:53] That's fair.

[00:48:54] But one of the, maybe episode two or three is the whole thing

[00:48:58] with the guy who it turns out is gay.

[00:49:02] Right, yeah.

[00:49:05] It's not as bad as it could have been,

[00:49:07] but there are certain things that you watched like,

[00:49:09] I don't think that would get made today.

[00:49:11] Possibly, yeah.

[00:49:12] That's, I think, again some really great character comedy actors

[00:49:17] like Kenny James is the name of the character played by Greg Binkley.

[00:49:22] And yeah, again, a staple in raising hope as a shop manager.

[00:49:28] Again, brilliant.

[00:49:30] I think he's a hilarious.

[00:49:31] I know what you mean.

[00:49:31] It was a bit of like a strange like,

[00:49:32] okay, this is where we're going with this.

[00:49:35] And I don't know, like you said, just, yeah, things change.

[00:49:39] It's always the way with comedies you do sort of wonder which it's,

[00:49:43] yeah, but as you say, without, I will say in fairness,

[00:49:46] anything like that or really any of it, anything work.

[00:49:51] I mean, because you can even look at Catalina,

[00:49:53] you know, deal with her being an immigrant, stuff like that.

[00:49:57] Anything it has to handle that is quite sensitive.

[00:49:59] I think it's always done with the spirit of the show,

[00:50:02] which is it's about people trying to improve.

[00:50:06] Yeah, I don't think that it's necessarily the,

[00:50:09] they're not necessarily the part of the jokes.

[00:50:11] No, no, if anything, it's just like they'll make fun of Earl's

[00:50:15] ignorance about something.

[00:50:17] Yeah, yeah.

[00:50:19] But it's like you say, it's kind of all that like scrubs as well.

[00:50:22] There's stuff in scrubs now that's,

[00:50:24] that hasn't aged well.

[00:50:25] And then if you want to really go back like,

[00:50:27] watch an episode of Forty Tellers.

[00:50:30] Yeah, yeah, it's like you can pick on any show,

[00:50:32] can't you?

[00:50:33] It's, yeah, yeah, it's a sign of,

[00:50:35] unfortunately a sign of the times, but,

[00:50:38] but yeah, no, I do think it's,

[00:50:40] it does from what I've watched generally holds up pretty well.

[00:50:45] And I will slowly probably over the next

[00:50:49] four to eight years complete my name as Earl

[00:50:52] and I'll watch through again.

[00:50:54] Enjoy.

[00:50:55] Probably once I'm able to watch it with my,

[00:50:57] once I can wean my son off of watching singing tractors.

[00:51:01] I'm sure, yeah, I'm sure you can jump him off that

[00:51:03] into my name as Earl's, you know.

[00:51:07] Yeah, we've tried, there's one,

[00:51:09] the one kind of good kind of crossover show for is,

[00:51:13] is Bluie, which I'm sure as a,

[00:51:16] you probably haven't spent time watching,

[00:51:17] but you may have heard of,

[00:51:19] but that's like one of those ones that are,

[00:51:20] it's kind of definitely made for the parents as well.

[00:51:22] It's for the kids.

[00:51:23] I get that impression.

[00:51:24] I get that impression and I,

[00:51:26] I have been approached by different people on a number

[00:51:30] of occasions to do it as an episode.

[00:51:32] So I think I will,

[00:51:33] really?

[00:51:33] Yes.

[00:51:34] I think I will take them up on it because I've,

[00:51:36] I've watched a couple of episodes.

[00:51:37] My couple of friends,

[00:51:38] I got kids and I understand.

[00:51:42] I understand what the fuss is about even just from a

[00:51:45] couple of episodes.

[00:51:46] I'm like, I get this.

[00:51:48] Yeah.

[00:51:48] They've, they have cornered a part of the market that was

[00:51:52] definitely lacking and they've done a good job with it.

[00:51:55] Yeah.

[00:51:56] And again, I think it's very much in,

[00:51:58] in a similar vein to what this is.

[00:52:00] It's about people just trying to be better.

[00:52:04] Yeah.

[00:52:04] It's like,

[00:52:05] it does make you feel like you are not as good a parent

[00:52:08] as these two animated dogs,

[00:52:09] but other than that,

[00:52:10] like, yeah, it is,

[00:52:12] it is, it is feel good.

[00:52:15] Well, then you can just watch an episode of the Simpsons and

[00:52:17] just watch, you know,

[00:52:18] basically abuse and then be like,

[00:52:20] I'm not so bad.

[00:52:20] Well, yeah, this is true.

[00:52:23] It's the old,

[00:52:24] the old equilibrium between the Simpsons and

[00:52:27] exactly.

[00:52:28] Exactly.

[00:52:30] Speaking of which,

[00:52:31] and like an episode,

[00:52:33] like we're still going with the Simpsons, right?

[00:52:35] 30 something odd seasons later and we only got four

[00:52:39] four seasons in my name.

[00:52:40] It is still going.

[00:52:41] Yeah.

[00:52:42] Which is wild.

[00:52:44] It's come up already on this series because

[00:52:48] one of the other episodes I've done is Bob's Burgers.

[00:52:50] Okay.

[00:52:51] Which I,

[00:52:51] which I maintain is the modern Simpsons.

[00:52:54] Like it,

[00:52:54] it's taken the baton and run with it in terms of

[00:52:57] it being like a big animated family sitcom,

[00:53:01] but it's still good.

[00:53:03] And it's like 14 seasons in,

[00:53:04] which is kind of wild.

[00:53:05] But yeah,

[00:53:06] Simpsons is like 32,

[00:53:07] I think at this point or 33 in,

[00:53:10] which is,

[00:53:11] and I guess Bob's Burgers as well is like,

[00:53:14] it's got the universal appeal versus like your family guys

[00:53:18] and things like that,

[00:53:19] which are obviously a lot more kind of R rated.

[00:53:24] If you're comparing them with the Simpsons,

[00:53:26] but yeah,

[00:53:28] no, it is,

[00:53:28] but here's wild 36 seasons at the Simpsons.

[00:53:31] Oh, that is,

[00:53:33] that is mad.

[00:53:34] I am there is as many seasons of the Simpsons

[00:53:38] as there are years I've been alive.

[00:53:45] Oh, that's,

[00:53:46] that's wild.

[00:53:48] That's quite weird being

[00:53:51] the exact same age as the Simpsons, right?

[00:53:55] Yeah.

[00:53:56] I don't know how I feel about that.

[00:53:57] I'll just,

[00:53:58] I'll just let you sit with that for a minute.

[00:54:04] Hopefully people have still been paying attention to me

[00:54:07] for the last sort of 15 years.

[00:54:09] And I haven't had the same downward trajectory of the Simpsons.

[00:54:12] I mean, so far, I think you're on and up, right?

[00:54:15] So, you know, that's, that's the hope.

[00:54:17] You got married, you've had a kid,

[00:54:18] you got a podcast, you know, you're doing okay in life.

[00:54:20] Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

[00:54:22] Yeah.

[00:54:23] Simpsons only last,

[00:54:26] last season only pulled in an average of 1.99 million viewers.

[00:54:30] How does that not get cancelled then?

[00:54:34] I guess it's just such an institution, right?

[00:54:37] Actually, I already know the answer to this question.

[00:54:38] It's syndication.

[00:54:42] Well, yeah.

[00:54:43] Yeah.

[00:54:43] Yeah, that and probably the extended like the merch

[00:54:47] and all that kind of stuff today.

[00:54:49] Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:54:50] I can't imagine many people are buying my name as old T-shirts.

[00:54:53] As much as there is a love for this show,

[00:54:54] I just don't see that.

[00:54:56] No, I do however love a niche,

[00:54:59] a niche reference on a T-shirt.

[00:55:01] It's like one of my, one of my favorite.

[00:55:04] I used to have a Fox Force five T-shirt,

[00:55:08] which is the fake movie from the Mia Wallace is no,

[00:55:15] sorry, the fake TV series that Mia Wallace in Pulp Fiction audition

[00:55:17] for did the pilot and didn't get.

[00:55:21] So I had a T-shirt with the,

[00:55:23] and I was in think I was in Universal Studios in LA.

[00:55:29] And one, but the only person that had ever acknowledged me

[00:55:32] wearing this T-shirt in all of the time when when cool T-shirt man.

[00:55:37] And I was like, yes, at least one person has understood the reference

[00:55:42] of everyone I've seen wearing this in like however many years I had the T-shirt

[00:55:46] thought that I do love a, I really like a niche.

[00:55:49] I want to get an original beef of Chicago land T-shirt from the bear.

[00:55:55] That's a good one.

[00:55:56] That's a good one.

[00:55:56] I saw a, I wonder if you get this reference.

[00:55:59] I saw a T-shirt that says music band on it the other day.

[00:56:03] I really want to music band.

[00:56:05] I feel like I should get that reference.

[00:56:07] It's a reference to another sitcom,

[00:56:08] which I have covered on this podcast before was a while ago.

[00:56:12] Right, go on 30 Rock.

[00:56:15] It's the, it's the Steve Buscemi meme.

[00:56:18] How do you do fellow youths?

[00:56:20] Yeah, yeah.

[00:56:22] Ah, yes.

[00:56:23] Yeah, yeah.

[00:56:23] Nice.

[00:56:25] How do you do fellow children?

[00:56:26] And it's him where it's just a T-shirt just says music band with like the ACDC font.

[00:56:31] Like I really want that.

[00:56:36] Oh dear, what happens when you become an adult?

[00:56:38] You get money and you spend it on things that one person in LA in about seven years might recognize,

[00:56:44] but it's worth it.

[00:56:46] Absolutely.

[00:56:47] Yeah.

[00:56:47] I've got a mouse rat T-shirt.

[00:56:49] Yeah.

[00:56:50] I love that.

[00:56:51] That's cool.

[00:56:51] I mean, it's not really TV reference,

[00:56:53] but I am set here wearing a moth man hat.

[00:56:55] Thank you, Mike West by the way.

[00:56:57] You know, so yeah, I'm here for weird quirky merch.

[00:57:02] What could you get?

[00:57:03] I'm trying to keep this on topic, but I'm enjoying the tangents.

[00:57:11] From my name is.

[00:57:12] Yeah, yeah.

[00:57:15] Is it the crab shack?

[00:57:18] Yes, that's that's what you do.

[00:57:21] You'd get a crab shack T-shirt.

[00:57:23] Or even more niche would be.

[00:57:27] It's a crab shack T-shirt, but it's for like, you know, when you get a winner competition,

[00:57:31] like an eating competition at a restaurant in America.

[00:57:37] Be like, I conquered the crab shack challenge or something.

[00:57:40] Yes.

[00:57:41] Love that idea.

[00:57:45] Yeah.

[00:57:45] And then what else?

[00:57:48] I think that that would be the kind of be the obvious one.

[00:57:57] Yeah, I think that's probably true.

[00:58:00] I'm just having a scroll just seeing if I, oh, there you go.

[00:58:03] Speaking of T-shirts, I found it as a T-shirt.

[00:58:07] Crab shack, Candon County is a show online.

[00:58:10] Nice.

[00:58:11] Nice.

[00:58:12] How much is this?

[00:58:13] 16 pounds not terrible.

[00:58:16] Anyway.

[00:58:19] Oh, there's loads.

[00:58:20] There's loads.

[00:58:21] It's like red bubble and others.

[00:58:22] Okay, that's cool.

[00:58:23] That's good to know.

[00:58:24] Although I don't like red bubbles.

[00:58:25] It's a terrible sight, but yeah.

[00:58:27] They kind of, yeah, these places just pick them up

[00:58:30] and like churn them out.

[00:58:31] They do.

[00:58:32] They do.

[00:58:33] Yeah.

[00:58:33] I feel like that's one that you will get and then just it will fall apart after one wash.

[00:58:39] Also, I've just seen so here's an idea for one.

[00:58:43] So their dad is played by a drum roll please.

[00:58:57] Oh, this is embarrassing.

[00:58:58] Well, it is a reason why I'm trying to make this.

[00:59:13] I'm going to cut so much dead air from this.

[00:59:15] It's ridiculous.

[00:59:18] And I'm going to have to go to bed in a minute.

[00:59:19] So we'll have to wrap this up, but.

[00:59:22] Um, where was he?

[00:59:33] Yes, there's a tree.

[00:59:34] Right.

[00:59:35] Oh bridges.

[00:59:38] Finally famous American actor.

[00:59:40] Bob Bridges plays their dad and I just see the picture of him.

[00:59:43] And I forgot there's a whole subplot where he runs for mayor

[00:59:46] and he's wearing a teacher.

[00:59:47] This is Hickey for mayor.

[00:59:49] There you go folks.

[00:59:50] That's your obscure.

[00:59:51] My name is Earl merchandise.

[00:59:53] That's what you get.

[00:59:54] If any of you out there have a Hickey for Mayor shirt,

[00:59:58] please let me know.

[01:00:00] I would genuinely love to know.

[01:00:04] Oh yeah.

[01:00:05] So much good stuff.

[01:00:06] There's just loads you could do with this.

[01:00:07] The more I scroll down that, that's all I'm getting now is

[01:00:10] just obscure.

[01:00:12] People have merchandise.

[01:00:16] Oh, it's great.

[01:00:17] It's so good.

[01:00:19] Yeah.

[01:00:20] I do again, do genuinely think it's such a shame that

[01:00:23] you didn't get to finish out the series.

[01:00:26] Um, I kind of hope they would have done like a redemption arc

[01:00:30] for joy because you alluded to it earlier, but like she is

[01:00:32] the most unlikeable out of a lot of them and.

[01:00:37] Yeah.

[01:00:37] I kind of hoped they would turn that around by the end.

[01:00:42] Well, yeah, it felt like that was, um, cause you could there's

[01:00:48] a lot of ways you could do it.

[01:00:49] Right.

[01:00:49] You could get she could kind of know, start her own list or

[01:00:54] some, you know, something like realize that.

[01:00:56] Oh, was, you know, good things were happening because

[01:00:58] it would 100% if, if it did happen, it would be driven

[01:01:02] by the fact that she actually realized, oh, like I can get

[01:01:04] something out of this.

[01:01:06] So actually maybe I'll try and do the same thing.

[01:01:08] Um, but yeah, I think, um, I think you're right.

[01:01:12] It is a shame that she kind of didn't have that.

[01:01:16] The opportunity to have that, um, that arc, but

[01:01:20] interestingly, cause they said they say on that same

[01:01:23] AMA where they spoke about like having Dave Chappelle

[01:01:25] or little John in there, he kind of alluded to

[01:01:29] like how they would have wrapped the whole thing up

[01:01:31] as well.

[01:01:31] And, um, the idea cause everyone's like, oh, does he

[01:01:36] ever finish the list or how does he finish this?

[01:01:38] And actually the plan was going to be that he

[01:01:40] doesn't finish the list.

[01:01:43] Um, but then he got stuck on a really hard list item.

[01:01:49] They didn't say what would be and gets frustrated

[01:01:51] that he wasn't going to finish it.

[01:01:52] And then he runs into someone who had their

[01:01:55] own list that Earl was on.

[01:01:57] Oh, um, and they need to make up something bad

[01:02:00] that they had done to him.

[01:02:01] And then he asked where they got the idea of

[01:02:04] doing, making a list and it turns out that someone

[01:02:07] came to them with a list and the person got the

[01:02:09] idea from someone else.

[01:02:10] And anyway, he basically realizes that his idea

[01:02:13] of having a list to start like this chain

[01:02:15] reaction and everyone's trying to be better people.

[01:02:17] So he, the whole thing was, is that he can

[01:02:20] kind of tear up his list now because he's put

[01:02:23] more good out into the world from not only

[01:02:25] doing stuff that he's been doing, but trying

[01:02:27] to have this influence over a lot of people as well.

[01:02:30] Nice.

[01:02:31] Which yeah, I kind of kind of quite, and that you

[01:02:34] could tie joy into that right?

[01:02:35] That could even be just like a little bit where

[01:02:37] she's she's kind of scribbling down her own

[01:02:40] own list or something.

[01:02:41] Yeah.

[01:02:43] But yeah, so I think, um, I don't know how

[01:02:48] long they were, you know, how much further

[01:02:50] than because they'd obviously planned out a

[01:02:52] season five, but like half much further

[01:02:54] that they had planned to go with it.

[01:02:56] And there was talk of maybe doing a movie as

[01:02:58] well to wrap it up.

[01:03:01] But that obviously never came to fruition.

[01:03:05] But yeah, it's it is.

[01:03:07] It's a real shame that that kind of got

[01:03:12] it didn't go any further.

[01:03:14] Yeah.

[01:03:15] No, it is.

[01:03:16] And again, it's especially when the whole

[01:03:19] premise of it is based on something that

[01:03:21] you need more of in the world, right?

[01:03:24] I mean back then, but especially now

[01:03:26] I was arguing more than ever is you want

[01:03:28] something that.

[01:03:30] Yeah, promotes that positivity and

[01:03:33] promotes that, you know, looking out for

[01:03:35] other people and doing something to help.

[01:03:40] Yeah.

[01:03:41] And I also think we kind of after that

[01:03:43] kind of I knew you kind of refers to

[01:03:45] those like the the E four seconds.

[01:03:47] Yeah.

[01:03:48] It felt like there was kind of a bit of

[01:03:49] a golden era like this scrubs and

[01:03:52] things like that.

[01:03:53] And it feels like we kind of massively

[01:03:54] regressed and like I don't want to be

[01:03:59] like the big bang theory being like

[01:04:02] one of the biggest sitcoms ever.

[01:04:04] It's just kind of depressing, right?

[01:04:06] Like I have mixed feelings about that

[01:04:13] show because there's bits of it and it

[01:04:15] started off with good intentions of

[01:04:17] being quite fun.

[01:04:18] But then everything was just it just

[01:04:20] really kind of lost itself.

[01:04:24] Yeah.

[01:04:24] I think I saw a video on the Internet

[01:04:27] ages ago that just pointed out the very

[01:04:30] obvious formula of reference,

[01:04:35] reference, laugh, reference,

[01:04:38] reference, laugh.

[01:04:39] It's like where's the joke?

[01:04:41] And as soon as I heard that, I went

[01:04:43] no, no, surely because I hadn't watched

[01:04:45] it in ages and I went back and watched

[01:04:47] an episode and I was like, oh my god,

[01:04:48] yeah, there's just there's not there

[01:04:51] aren't any jokes in this episode.

[01:04:52] They're just naming things.

[01:04:54] It's like, oh no.

[01:04:57] But yeah, it's that and then if there is a

[01:05:00] joke, the punchline is always aren't

[01:05:02] these guys nerds?

[01:05:03] Yeah.

[01:05:03] Why are they with these hot girls?

[01:05:05] Yeah, yeah.

[01:05:06] It kind of doesn't go further than that.

[01:05:08] But you know what I mean?

[01:05:09] Like it feels like we really had.

[01:05:10] No, it's true.

[01:05:12] Is there anything good or not the

[01:05:16] moment sick or wise?

[01:05:17] Again, I mean, I'm a big advocate

[01:05:18] for Bob's Burgers.

[01:05:20] I highly recommend that.

[01:05:21] I think.

[01:05:21] Yeah.

[01:05:22] Okay, that's that's phenomenal.

[01:05:25] Yeah, there's some work going on and

[01:05:26] sort of more modern stuff.

[01:05:29] I quite enjoyed Superstore.

[01:05:30] It wasn't I did an episode on it really

[01:05:31] enjoyed it.

[01:05:33] Yeah.

[01:05:34] Don't know if I get even we acknowledged

[01:05:35] I don't know if say it's necessarily

[01:05:39] as good as some of the other stuff that's

[01:05:41] come along, but it's it's a definitely

[01:05:42] worth a watch.

[01:05:43] I mean, New Girl Brooklyn 999, you know,

[01:05:45] shows that recently finished.

[01:05:47] I put up.

[01:05:48] Yeah, I guess it's always sunny as we

[01:05:50] speak about yes, that's still going.

[01:05:52] That's still going strong for sure.

[01:05:54] There's a couple of good British

[01:05:56] ones.

[01:05:57] There's one I watched recently.

[01:05:59] I don't know if you watch much

[01:06:00] Taskmaster, but yeah, yeah.

[01:06:02] What's her name?

[01:06:03] So another episode.

[01:06:04] You're naming all the episodes here,

[01:06:05] Graham.

[01:06:08] Brilliant.

[01:06:09] Most recent taskmaster.

[01:06:11] We're on 18 premiers tonight,

[01:06:13] I believe.

[01:06:16] But 17 had

[01:06:21] what's her name in it?

[01:06:24] Sophie Willan.

[01:06:27] So Sophie Willan is in a sitcom

[01:06:30] that she wrote and starred in

[01:06:32] because called Almas Not Normal.

[01:06:36] And it's just absolutely fantastic.

[01:06:40] I am six episodes on BBC two

[01:06:44] or by player.

[01:06:46] It's got Jade Adams in it as well.

[01:06:49] I think also might have done some of

[01:06:51] the writing.

[01:06:53] But yeah, just really, really good.

[01:06:56] It's kind of it's it's completely

[01:06:58] out there.

[01:06:59] It's kind of the premises like her.

[01:07:02] Her mom is in like an institution

[01:07:06] and she's kind of down on her luck

[01:07:08] and is failing relationship.

[01:07:11] Anyway, it's completely.

[01:07:15] Just so good and I wasn't expecting

[01:07:16] I kind of watched it because I'd

[01:07:18] seen her on Taskmaster.

[01:07:19] Then she was very funny on off menu.

[01:07:24] And I was like, and they mentioned

[01:07:25] I was a normal mat so when I gave it

[01:07:27] ago and yeah, very pleasantly

[01:07:29] surprised.

[01:07:29] I think there's a few decent Brits

[01:07:32] if we're not talking kind of like,

[01:07:33] you know, the big long American sitcoms.

[01:07:37] I think there's a few good Brits.

[01:07:38] I really like Friday night dinner.

[01:07:40] Yeah, that was great.

[01:07:44] I've heard ghosts is very good.

[01:07:46] I've still not got around to watching

[01:07:47] ghosts.

[01:07:48] Okay.

[01:07:48] Yeah, there's a few knocking on Alex.

[01:07:50] There'll be plenty more for me to do on this series

[01:07:52] whenever I come back to it.

[01:07:53] I enjoy it.

[01:07:54] But actually staff lets flats as well.

[01:07:56] Oh, yes.

[01:07:57] That's what's flat and people do just

[01:07:59] do nothing at two.

[01:08:01] So good of recent times anyway.

[01:08:03] I'll stop talking about others.

[01:08:05] It comes on this episode about.

[01:08:07] My name is a shorter one because

[01:08:09] of just the nature of how it all

[01:08:11] ended, which was we say it was a shame.

[01:08:13] I do wonder in this day and age of

[01:08:15] nostalgia and everything if they might

[01:08:17] get like a straight to Disney plus

[01:08:20] like original film, maybe to kind of wrap

[01:08:23] things up.

[01:08:23] I think there's not outside the realms

[01:08:26] of possibility on that one.

[01:08:28] And I'd be up for it.

[01:08:29] I don't know.

[01:08:30] It'd be nice to sort of see the characters

[01:08:31] again and have them just sort of

[01:08:33] play off each other.

[01:08:35] Oh, because they did even like

[01:08:37] they rested development had that

[01:08:39] final season on net or final two seasons

[01:08:41] maybe on Netflix way after it had

[01:08:43] finished airing.

[01:08:45] So you never know.

[01:08:47] But I mean, Ethan Suppley

[01:08:49] was talking about it as recently

[01:08:51] as 2023 on a podcast.

[01:08:53] There you go.

[01:08:55] So who knows?

[01:08:57] Who knows?

[01:08:57] And with the day and age of streaming

[01:08:58] like these things do get another life.

[01:09:01] You know, and if they take a look

[01:09:03] at the numbers and realize there's

[01:09:05] millions of people watching the show

[01:09:07] and rewatching it because that's

[01:09:08] the comfort factor with shows like

[01:09:10] this, right?

[01:09:11] And the power of the sound.

[01:09:13] Who knows?

[01:09:14] Who knows?

[01:09:15] It needs maybe I need to

[01:09:16] it needs to fall into my

[01:09:19] like I've got like four.

[01:09:20] I think I probably mentioned this

[01:09:21] when we spoke last time, but there's

[01:09:22] about four sitcoms that are on a

[01:09:24] bit of a rotation.

[01:09:25] Yeah, which is 100% like

[01:09:28] yeah, comfort TV, which is like

[01:09:31] scrubs the office

[01:09:33] community.

[01:09:36] Maybe it's just those.

[01:09:38] Yeah, maybe I'll chuck my neighbors

[01:09:39] out into the rotation.

[01:09:40] Yeah, I can at least rewatch it.

[01:09:42] There we go.

[01:09:43] There we go.

[01:09:44] Awesome.

[01:09:45] Well, we'll wrap it up there.

[01:09:46] Graham, thank you so much for

[01:09:48] coming back on.

[01:09:48] It's just a pleasure to talk to

[01:09:49] you more than anything else.

[01:09:51] And for the good people listening

[01:09:52] where can they find you?

[01:09:55] Oh, no, I've done this on so

[01:09:57] many podcasts because Ian does

[01:09:59] half of it then I do half of it.

[01:10:00] So I know that I know how

[01:10:03] Twitter and

[01:10:05] Twitter and Facebook and nobody

[01:10:07] asked for pod the number four.

[01:10:09] I think Instagram and

[01:10:11] the other ones are the podcast

[01:10:13] nobody asked for.

[01:10:14] That is correct.

[01:10:15] If you if you search for us,

[01:10:17] you'll find us.

[01:10:18] We're on all the different feeds

[01:10:20] and yeah, we have

[01:10:23] episodes with guests such as the

[01:10:25] wonderful Harley and a few others

[01:10:27] and

[01:10:29] just

[01:10:30] if you like a tangent

[01:10:31] we do we've got plenty of those.

[01:10:34] We have them in spades.

[01:10:36] You do and they're really wonderful.

[01:10:39] I'm not just saying that because

[01:10:40] you're here and you are

[01:10:41] technically my pod dads.

[01:10:42] If you don't understand that

[01:10:43] reference, I'm not explaining it.

[01:10:45] Guys, thank you so much for coming

[01:10:47] back on Graham.

[01:10:49] Really appreciate it.

[01:10:49] No worries.

[01:10:50] Thanks for having me.

[01:10:52] A massive thank you to Graham

[01:10:53] for coming back on the podcast

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