Let's Talk About... Aliens & UFOs with Tommy from Let's Get Freaky! Ep.35

[00:00:00] Welcome back to Lets Talk About, you've got Liam and Billy here once again as always, Billy how the hell are you? I'm good mate, I'm as good as I was 20 minutes ago. So we

[00:00:17] have a special guest with us today mate so we've got Tommy from the Lets Get Freaky Podcasts, Tommy how are you? I'm good thank you guys, thank you for having me man, I'm excited to be here, very excited. That's a problem, that's a problem. Glad to have

[00:00:31] you mate, glad to have you. So I'm a big fan of your show guys, I'm loving what you're doing. Appreciate it. I've been listening to a lot of yours recently. Thank you man. Yeah

[00:00:41] it's good, it's good. We get freaky. Right then so we'll jump into it Billy have you got some of your questions? I do mate, I do. So our little segment of Billy's questions. Yeah so this is in relation to obviously what we're going to be

[00:00:58] doing and talking about today. So first question is this is for both of you as well so I'd like an answer from each. So if you ever discovered an inhabitable planet what would

[00:01:09] you name it? Oh that's a good question Billy, well done. Oh wow. I'm glad you're not saying that word. Inhabitable I know. Can I not say the word habitable? Yeah I'm not even going to try. That's a great question. If I discovered an inhabitable.

[00:01:35] It's a tough one man, because I knew it would be. I'm trying to think of something weird. I knew you would be here. It's like the flying Dutchman episode, I wonder when we

[00:01:45] are going to ask you. Oh I don't know, freaky paradise. I like it. Keeping it with a podcast. That's a good question man. Liam wants a good one here that's why he's taking his time. I'm not sure if you can remember. Yeah, I'm not sure.

[00:02:15] I'm not sure I can remember. I don't know anything about it. Right so the next question it's not as difficult as that was a tough one man. I knew it would be a tricky one.

[00:02:33] The next one is what do you believe aliens would look like assuming that you believe they exist? Do you have any sort of image of what they would look like? I think there's a lot of different types.

[00:02:57] I think there's something that looked like us that could possibly just be like us. We wouldn't be able to tell that they were aliens. This is what I've said. To change your first question, shall we say what would you like the aliens on our planet to look like?

[00:03:21] I want like xenomorphs but I want them green. Green xenomorphs? Like a luminescent. Because the luminescent ones are scary in the first place. But if the ambassador's luminous green looks like the toxic. Are you saying that bioluminescent aliens are scarier than black ones? Very well.

[00:03:49] Maybe it's just an arore. When was it in the UK where the two green children were seen? I've forgotten the name of the place and it's going back years ago. I've heard of like blue people before.

[00:04:03] There was a village in the UK somewhere where there was two green kids that just appeared from nowhere. A boy and a girl. They had no parents anywhere they come from. I think someone adopted them.

[00:04:17] I need to look into it more but it's an interesting one for the podcast boys. That's a green kid from nowhere. I've heard of like blue people because there's that story about cannibals or something like that. Everything is based on green today. We had shield earlier. What's that?

[00:04:37] It's that bull. We don't talk about that. In the test gun heroes, have you been in there? That's security block in there with the blue face. He's saying him before. His face is just blue, isn't it?

[00:04:53] I remember seeing him he scared the hell out of me because I was going in there getting a birthday card. Obviously that's right at the back of the shop and I was just walking down because it was late at night as well.

[00:05:01] I had walked around the corner and he was coming on the corner as well and I absolutely should be selfless. I was like Jesus Christ. Was that tattoos? It wasn't tattoos, he just had a blue face. I don't know why.

[00:05:15] I didn't look at his hands or anything else but he had a blue face. You've seen him before. He has like grey slick back hair and he wears a pair of aviators. He looks like he should be some sort of villain from some sort of way of film.

[00:05:27] That is probably an alien. That's probably an actual alien. That makes sense. It's just gone with the film in there, isn't it? It's dedicated. That's all that is. Tommy did you have any sort of aliens that you wanted to look like on your planet?

[00:05:49] I'd like them to be all be ginger. I like it. I have ginger beards. Viking aliens. All the lady ones. All ginger. Just a world of gingers. That would be the dream. I can't imagine having much sun right now. No sun. We can't get there.

[00:06:13] Winter all year round there. Effective 50 everywhere. Right, I've got a couple of yes or no questions for you now. Just before we get into the episode properly. First one, again just a yes or no. Do you believe aliens have visited Earth before? Yes. That's fine. I like that.

[00:06:37] Fair enough. Do you believe aliens have interacted with humans before? Yes. I want to know your answers on this as well, love Bill, because if you're an alien, aren't you? Yes, I guess I am. So are you saying yes to both as well or...? Yes, I have.

[00:06:57] I've been with the aliens before and a part of me does in terms of interactive humans because... I relate back to the pyramids mate all the time.

[00:07:07] It's the fact that the Mayans are so far away from Egypt and around the same time they both built the triangular sort of structure. It's just in my bubble into me. It's crazy. There's pyramids all around the world isn't there?

[00:07:21] They recently discovered that there was one in China as well. I think it's like Serbia where that way, or Montenegro where it's twice the size of the pyramids. It looks like a hill. It's covered. That's what I mean. It's crazy.

[00:07:37] So my answers are the same as yours there. Next one is do you believe extraterrestrial beings possess human-like features? I don't know. I'm going to say yes and no because I think there's different types. Yeah that's what I mean. I don't know. How do I elaborate that?

[00:08:05] I've eaten fruit, they're like the shape shifters. Yeah very true. I mean look at that blue glow in frontesco. Fucks sake. He's definitely a shape shifter that's for sure. I reckon they all wear leech shirts. Sorry Liam. Okay fair enough yes and no.

[00:08:31] So you believe there's all different forms of aliens essentially? Yeah. What about the ones that are visited Earth? We'll keep it at that then. I'd say yeah then. They obviously have human features that can shape shift. Or else I think there'd be a lot more evidence for them.

[00:08:47] Yes. Yeah. Tell me on that one. Yeah I agree. I think there's all different types of interaction with Earth. So I think there's all different types. Fair play. And the final one do you believe Area 51 is hiding extraterrestrial evidence? Yes. Yes. To what degree I don't know.

[00:09:09] That's the big one. I think Area 51 could be a little bit of a sigh up. It possibly was that at the start. But now I think would they keep it there now everyone's talking about it? Everyone knows.

[00:09:21] So I think it's probably moved on but they want you to keep looking at Area 51. Yeah. The stuff that was originally over some of the whole Roswell stuff. That stuff is all deep underground now. Yeah. It probably is now.

[00:09:35] It probably actually is literally just an air base now. There probably is nothing else for it now. It probably isn't just that. Too much attention. It's to keep people thinking that it's somewhere else. Yeah.

[00:09:47] I think if they remove the security though it takes away all sort of attention regardless doesn't it? In a sense. People are then to do the whole thing on Facebook was a couple of years ago.

[00:10:01] If it took away the amount of security that's on it, that would happen. Yeah. Anyway. Like I say if they hit the security on it it keeps people distracted from trying to find out where the stuff actually is. For that player? Yeah. What the hell do I know?

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[00:11:12] Well I've always been really into the paranormal supernatural stuff. Since I can remember since the start. UFOs, I've always been fascinated by that as well. And I've had experiences where I've seen stuff in the sky that I can't explain.

[00:11:28] And my first personal experience that I can remember I was 14 years old. And we was all in the street playing football. There was a group of us just playing football in the street. My brother was there as well.

[00:11:41] And we've all just stopped and we've seen this object in the sky. And it was mad. It was like nothing I've seen really before or since to be honest. I've seen things similar to it but it was like...

[00:11:53] The best way I describe it, it was quite far in the distance but you could see it. And it looked like a building that you would get into Dubai. It was like this mad shape that was just floating. And it was like orange and silver.

[00:12:08] And we're all looking at it and we're trying to work out what it is. We're going for all the things it could be. And none of us had phones at the time.

[00:12:15] We did have phones, I think I had a Nokia that didn't have a camera on it back then. So there was no pictures to take. But we were looking at it for 10 minutes trying to work out what it was and we couldn't. And it didn't move.

[00:12:28] It didn't disappear. We just started playing football again, which really bugs me. Because now I want to know... I was interested in it but not as much as I am now. Now I'd watch it for days, weeks to try and work out what it was.

[00:12:45] So we just started playing football again and didn't really to be honest, think about it that much after that. Me and my brother never really spoke about it. And it wasn't until I started doing the podcast and I was writing down things that I had experienced.

[00:12:58] And I sort of forgot about that experience, which is weird because it was a mad thing to see. And I was on Paranormal Heart Podcast and I was just talking about UFOs and things.

[00:13:08] That memory came back and I told her the memory, I told her what I remembered that day. And then my brother listened to it and he rung me up a couple of days later and he was like, Bruv, what was that that we saw that day?

[00:13:21] Why have we never talked about it really? And we still don't know what it was but all I can remember is it was just this weird shaped thing in the sky. I don't know what it was but that was my first sort of experience with a UFO.

[00:13:38] That's kind of similar in a sense to mine and it's... Is it your Iron Man thing? Iron Man thing. You thought it was like Iron Man in the sky when you were like 6. You're right for the age but I didn't think it was Iron Man nor.

[00:13:53] When I was obviously on Topg's Podcast, we all told him about that. So I'll let you tell the story about it. I called the episode Iron Man. Basically this is my only experience. I've seen a lot of things, I've got images as well on my phone actually Liam.

[00:14:08] I'll have to send them to you just so you can send them across. If it's what I remember you saying... It's not that. It brought me very good pictures. No no, that's something I'm about for more reasons.

[00:14:18] So regarding that anyway, I was about 6 year old and it's just stuck in my brain. It's the only thing I remember from around that age. But I remember I was sat in my living room one of my moments around Christmas time. And I looked...

[00:14:30] So where we lived, a place called Mask and there was like a big opening of Square. And I remember looking up into the sky and there was... It looked as if the reason Liam's got Iron Man is because it looked like... You know how his eyes are shaped?

[00:14:44] Yep. Yeah, it looked like that. There was one which was a very pinkish light and then the other side was green. But it was like an oval sort of silhouette with the Iron Man eyes inside of it.

[00:14:57] Really bright, it was massive and it was moving extremely slowly across. It seemed to stop and then just completely vanished out of view. Bear in mind I'm a kid and I asked my mum what it was and she was saying that she didn't see it.

[00:15:11] Said it'll have been a kid with a spotlight or something in the sky. But I remember that image, it's just stuck in my head with me my whole life. I'll never get out of it. That is one thing that I can never... I'll never know what that was.

[00:15:28] It was huge. Interesting. I always have a problem with that story though because you say... Just because of the colour of the lights. The pink and the green. Yeah, because to me straight away it's just an aeroplane then. See I thought this as well but it wasn't...

[00:15:44] You say about with disappearing I'm just going to say. Yeah, I know you are. I know you are and I thought it was myself. You think how I'm thinking about this scenario. But I can't explain the shape mate and the size. And that was moving.

[00:15:57] It was that low it'd be going so much faster. It was moving like this. Obviously I'm six year old I'm not going to point out I'm just staring it off from what I can remember.

[00:16:06] But the shape of it mate on a plane you can see it's got two lights It was a little flicker and it was a pink. It wasn't like a reddy, bright pink, bright green. And the shape of it mate.

[00:16:20] I'm trying to do it with my hands at a Liam. So just to interrupt you then. All I'm thinking now is obviously we've all seen a plane in the sky tonight. And like you said it's a tiny little flashing light.

[00:16:32] I know it's going to be hard because you were six. How big were the lights? Were they a lot bigger than you would see on a plane? Far bigger. Far bigger. This is why I've never considered it to be a plane.

[00:16:42] Was it moon size or not that big? I'd have been over it if it was a plane. So say the moon's... I love this pointy note in the window. I know it's sometimes close but sometimes it's not. I don't know how to describe it.

[00:16:54] You know when you see like a lifeguard crossing over your house or something there's just, take me out, take me out. The low but not that low. The lifeguard? Yeah the helicopter. Oh right you've been courseguards. Courseguards sorry not lifeguards. You never pushed the flying lifeguard a bit.

[00:17:13] You should be able to release. See the hof coming outside? Oh god. Yeah I didn't think I'd be sorry. I know the other good ship, I don't think we can fly that. It's just a rock mate. You know what I mean though. There's the age difference put together.

[00:17:31] Tommy says Hasselhoff and you say the rope. Yeah. I'm still on Hasselhoff man. Hasselhoff isn't it? No I'm just somewhere in the middle. I don't know how to describe the size but yes the moon when it's not too close it's massive.

[00:17:49] Basically just bigger than what you would imagine a plane would be. Far bigger. I know it's obviously like to scale when you're six and everything. Far bigger. When you see a plane in the sky like they're obviously obviously higher. It looks really small. It's like in the sky.

[00:18:05] Both I call it eyes because that's what it looked like to me. Both eyes bigger than a plane. I'll never ever forget it mate. It's literally the shape of that. That's what the shape was. And the black size. The biggest point is the very pen for the listeners.

[00:18:21] The tip of a very pen, that was the shape. Even though you were six it's had a big impact on you. Massive. Massive. It's one of the only things that I remember from that age. And it's stuck with me.

[00:18:37] I remember where the Christmas tree was at the time I saw it. I remember where the city was where my man was sat, the conversation I had and I don't remember anything from that age really. I've got really bad memory from a child. Not bad memories

[00:18:49] but I mean just a bad memory in general of what happened. But that stuck with me because I'll never... You also have been down south though then weren't you? That would have been up here wasn't it? No it was up here.

[00:19:01] Well I might not have been six, I might have been eight or nine but it was somewhere around that time. Fair enough. Fair enough. I can't remember the exact age I was but I was in Spirn Elses where we just come up here. Fair enough.

[00:19:13] So probably eight. That's what I moved up. My only... I only really wonder, I have with it like actually seeing things when it comes to Elies I was much more sad believing it. This is the only thing that's ever happened and it wasn't that long ago.

[00:19:29] Obviously I told Tommy I wouldn't be far enough to tell you this. So I'll be able to tell you better because you know where I work. So you know where they tip this? Yep. So you know when you go down that hill don't you

[00:19:41] then you come back up to go to Gisborne. Yes. So I was on a breakfast shift going to work so I've been like half past six, twenty seven or so months. And go down that hill and you're like this because it was like it looked like Death Star.

[00:19:55] Oh yeah. It was just like it wasn't the sun I know that for a fact. It was just like a big bright light it was like you know my only way to describe the size wise was you know when you could see the moon during the day. Yes.

[00:20:09] So it was like that size was really fucking bright. Is this at night? No no it's like half past six in the morning. Right okay. So I was on my way to work. Yeah yeah. So like coming down that hill that's all I could say

[00:20:21] and I probably should have been up ahead of the road but I wasn't. Yeah yeah. And then when I come back up it just went when I come back up the other side it was gone. So it was just like a great big

[00:20:29] just like a big ball of light. Right. Yeah. Really strange. Yeah I mean it was weird as hell and that is it I've got I can't even I've got no I know you like to yeah the thing is with you as well I know you

[00:20:43] you like facts and things like that you kind of kind of the same as me on that so. Like obviously we are as I can very easily just say that every play. It's not. It's not. You can see my reason for why it was. Yeah.

[00:20:57] So that one's very easy to me. In my head that's like I've solved that. No you haven't. I don't know what the hell this big ball of light was. It's just and it done my editing all day. In terms of size as if you

[00:21:11] were you say it disappeared behind the hill so is this as if it was out of space or was this like on the in our planet like I said like size wise the only way I could describe it was like I said

[00:21:23] when you can see them in during the day and you say like almost a full moon during the day it was basically that size but really fucking bright and it weren't the sun because the sun would be angry. Yeah yeah Interesting. It just confused the

[00:21:35] hell out of me that I've done my editing all day. Yeah it would do well. The only things I've burnt are works I was thinking about that. I wouldn't enjoy it. What doesn't mean is that it's because if you go down the hill and you come back up

[00:21:47] and if you wasn't ever blocked like as I got to the bottom of the hill and went back up it just it just went. Okay fair enough. And like I said it confused the hell out of me. It's strange because it's light as well

[00:21:59] it's that bright in the day how bright was it at the time? Like I said it only comes once a go so this is when the sun's coming up at like half past five I've got in the morning so it was full day at least.

[00:22:09] Yeah yeah yeah Jesus yeah. It was interesting man. Confused the hell out of me but I do think this is the most most confusing one. Yeah I've got another weird one as well if you want that one. Yeah definitely but like I'm going to say again

[00:22:23] because obviously I like to try and come up with answers for things. No don't say it. What do you mean? It's not a it's not a plan. No not your own. Alright. I'm trying to think what Tommy says like that's annoying me the most. Okay yeah

[00:22:37] but I'm the same so I'll have this. I literally cannot think of any sort of answer for that. Right okay go on Tommy. Yes well this one's this one's probably just a strange so this is going on so I was around I was in my 20s

[00:22:51] when this happened I was living in a flat in Brentwood and we was on the top floor and this was a lovely summer's day as well very clear sky and me and my mother-in-law so this was cool as well so we both saw this and we talk about

[00:23:03] this all the time we was just talking at the window looking out and opposite there was like a little forested area and basically free objects came out of the forest and they were only small they're only like the size of a basketball

[00:23:17] you know that sort of size so they weren't super big but we could we could see them very clearly and they were free objects they weren't touching they weren't connected but they were like moving around each other so that they seem to be connected some way

[00:23:31] but they weren't actually touching now we're looking at this and they were like a silvery colour but I'd describe it you know when the terminator is melting and it goes like oh there's all that silvery whoever it is it looks like that that's how it looks

[00:23:47] and it's just changing shape constantly all three objects are constantly just changing shape and they're never the same shape there was always something different it was very hard to make out exactly the shape of them if you know what I mean and they were just sort of

[00:24:03] going around each other me and my mother-in-law was watching this for a good five minutes whatever it was it was a long time but it felt like a long time and we're like is that a balloon? are they balloons? no they're not balloons they can't be balloons

[00:24:15] anyway we're watching it we're trying to work out what it is and it was amazing really cool thing to see fast for the moving sorry not really that fast no they were sort of they were just it was just sort of a glide in motion

[00:24:29] so in that like if a balloon's going up you would think maybe sort of a similar sort of speed but we've sort of they weren't balloons we just couldn't work out what they were though because it was again I've not seen anything really like it since

[00:24:45] on any videos or anything like that I've seen stuff similar but I try and find exactly what I've seen and I've not really seen it yet and anyway these objects they're going up and up and we're following them all the way up and we see them

[00:24:59] they get so high and we can still see them and then we just saw flash flash flash flash flash flash all three of them just shot off and that was very strange as well because obviously balloons don't do that and me and my mother-in-law

[00:25:11] looked at each other and we was like wow no one's gonna and the annoying thing is I had an iPhone in my pocket and I didn't even think about recording it at the time because we were on the time

[00:25:23] I know it's a cliche everyone said it but I was like oh why didn't I record that I mean I don't know how it would have come out anyway but it was a cool thing to see and every family party we're at now

[00:25:35] me and my mother-in-law we talk about it and the family members are looking at us like yeah that was a balloon and we're like I promise you man this was wild I don't know what it was but that was another cool experience

[00:25:47] so were they like a solid shape no they would constantly change in shape so it was like you know like um try to think like flubber so like flubber basically like you know flubber yeah like that and it was like it was just

[00:26:07] constantly changing there was never like a square or a circle it was like mad shapes constantly and in terms of the way that there was sort of manoeuvring around each other were the lake was two circle in the one or were they just all over the place

[00:26:23] was it a flubber movement it was like they were going around each other like all three of them just going around but it seemed like there was like an equal gap between the if that makes sense I don't know exactly if there was but that's how it seemed

[00:26:39] they were like sort of in a motion together um yeah no idea what that was though man and again people I tell people that and they're like is that definitely a UFO like could you have been seeing something like it is a UFO because it's in the sky

[00:26:53] and it's unidentified and I don't know what that was I love using that little poem like what's that? It's not a UFO it's from the sky and I don't know what it is yeah that is one that I take more sort of interest to in stories

[00:27:11] like that one because you've given enough details um it's completely different to the common stuff that you hear you know like you've seen an oval shape I sort of feel like I've heard something or seen something like that before though like no I'm not actually

[00:27:29] seeing myself but I'm sure I've heard a story of something like that before um I don't know why there's something at the end and I probably have a image but it's probably just because I'm projecting that image but I do feel like I don't know what you mean

[00:27:43] I can see something moving up like this I think it's something I've seen in a film or something maybe I don't know why I keep thinking magneto I don't know do you know when he's when he's holding a metal ball and they start spiraling

[00:27:57] around it and then I've just got that made but that's what this looked like it looked like a metal but the shape was it was like flubber obviously flubber is green but it was like if you can picture free flubbers floating up like a silvery colour

[00:28:15] that's what it was at the size of a basketball I would say that's crazy that is something I love that kind of stuff because that's not just some little humanoid in a little ship this is like to me the first thing that comes to my head is

[00:28:31] like drones like extraterrestrial sort of spy and fucking camera system whatever you want to call it out of well that's the only thing I can think of that it's like they've come out with the woods correct I mean it's not a massive forested area so it's like

[00:28:49] a little woodland and then there was a house just behind that woods so I don't know if that house has anything to do with it this is where my curious brain comes into play here what surrounds that area like is there anything that you would think

[00:29:03] an extraterrestrial being would look for or spy on or something like that it's just my own curious mind going off here I don't know it was Brentwood so Tower used to be filmed there I don't know if there's anything to do with that but it was literally

[00:29:17] right about a two minute walk from Brentwood High Street I mean Brentwood's got some cool history I know Tower is not cool history but there is some cool stuff that happened in Brentwood like there's a lot of old buildings and stuff like that yeah I don't know

[00:29:33] I don't know if there's any links literally just down the road you've got the Mary Green Manor which was Henry VIII Manor House or something like that something to do with Henry VIII but yeah I don't know I'm not sure I can't roll without them I always think

[00:29:51] if you've seen them why are they there why are they in that location that's what I always look for if it's in a rural place you think that's where because they don't want to be seen things like that if they're in somewhere where you have no fucking balance

[00:30:05] or something like that I don't know mate do you know where I'm going with yeah a possible drone or something like that a drone that we don't know a technology that we don't know but it could be something like that yeah that's how I feel like

[00:30:21] we're so far advanced when I believe in aliens the only sort of belief that they've been to work themselves and interacted with humans would be around the time of the pyramids obviously I've already been through it and it's like humans are far too advanced now to accept

[00:30:37] extraterrestrial life I think that's too much of a risk we have too much maybe weaponry I don't know nothing compared to theirs obviously if they're sending drones like that but they wouldn't want to be seen and they wouldn't want to maybe they're just keeping tabs on

[00:30:53] what we're doing kind of thing I don't know but if the help build the pyramids then they're not here to end us right does that make sense to you people were a lot less dickheads back then I think I don't know mate

[00:31:09] no I think you're all the worse it gets mate sometimes with the powers that being us with like the leaders of the world I think all the Egyptians used to punish yeah exactly yeah that's what I mean I think mummied alive yeah but just like general folk

[00:31:25] I think some of them were probably not better than we are now I feel like we'd worship them then and now I don't think oh no like yeah back then if that was the case an alien scared out to help build the pyramids

[00:31:37] they would have been thought of as gods like this is what I'm saying now for me Anubis Cyrus they were aliens in my opinion no I don't know let's come from somewhere no because all the cat heads and dog heads that's not an alien

[00:31:55] exactly so then they're not aliens then it's just their way of presenting themselves they've got a human body as gods yeah in the pictures there might be giant humans mate that have just come here to help us evolve well they were on the moon and all the stones

[00:32:11] to get to their stage and they just spy on us to make sure we are evolving correctly and you know no more meaty-horses well I think I've told you this I think I said this earlier I love the theory the fact that we're all aliens

[00:32:25] like from this planet yeah it's like another planet no I don't know you should have been in it Jesus of course we're just not I mean we are not from Earth alright ok we're not from Earth that we were put here as a prison

[00:32:41] so this is a theory that I've heard a lot no shut up and let me finish it go on how do you explain then why everyone has a bad back because we're not used to that much because where we're actually from there's a lot less gravity

[00:32:55] people are allergic to fucking oxygen Billy people are asthmatic we're allergic to fucking pollen we're allergic to everything people can't have a bag of nuts without dying you don't get anything else on this planet they're fucking dyes from eating a fucking peanut there's no fucking dog drool there

[00:33:11] we'll fucking leave one of them pens if they have a bag of nuts no I'm saying it it's evolution for me that's just give that's too boring that's just give that's too boring you're getting into like the anarchy that put us here as slaves to work

[00:33:27] that's just give that's too boring I thought of this well I feel like if they've been in that sort of sense going off that topic they've just helped us evolve that's what I reckon but I fully believe in evolution that we've evolved from mammals

[00:33:43] over the millions of years and whatever and they've just they've seen the intelligence grow I feel like well no, bollocks then straight away if you tell us about mammals like the pus platypus that's an alien explain that to me then explain it explain the platypus

[00:34:09] how do you explain a platypus because it's a mammal that lays eggs right and it's poisonous that's ridiculous it's got a duck's face it lays eggs it can produce milk it can make its own fucking custard if you want to where have you studied platypus

[00:34:29] I've watched a lot of things about platypus more than I probably should that doesn't make sense they're just weird things but like the meat stuff like that they're aliens, it's like octopus have you seen the stuff octopuses can do never mind camouflage mate like a chameleon stuff

[00:34:51] they can literally change the texture they can go from looking like a smooth bottle of jelly thing out with you to looking like a big bag of rocks never mind the ocean they're just the more evolved why've they got like four hearts because the more evolved exactly why

[00:35:09] there's no need for that carry that mass that extreme mass and all the things that you've just stated that they do they're gonna need more organs Jesus Christ I'm definitely gonna have to top it there's two of us in the movie but yeah no listen to aliens

[00:35:28] well I suppose yeah okay I had no idea you knew that much about random animals right then enough about aliens and platypus is in everything for a minute so I'm gonna play a quick trailer for the podcast called early on Wednesday so I'll listen to this

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[00:37:17] do you know where you're listening? right then let's get back into the episode my face is hurting from laughing man well, let's talk about that in terms of obviously we've talked about the all what do you think it is that you saw? that's a good question man

[00:37:43] quickly, X-Shaping which one would you like to see? the first one the first one I'd like to think that was an alien mother ship that's what I'd like to think it was in my mind remembering it that's how it looked it was a wild thing to see

[00:38:05] it was literally like a building that you would see in the future floating in the sky that's what I feel nice on that's what I feel like I saw with my in my eyes you thought it was a ship? yeah I always leave out the fact

[00:38:25] those lights were so prominent it was like an oval shape the lights were inside an oval sort of dark mass but it was as if, oh here we go Predator how it camouflages that's what it looked like whatever was behind it seemed to be blurred

[00:38:41] yeah it was just the blurring effect yes it was just that I keep saying eyes, lights whatever they were so prominent that's why I always reflect to that back to your mother ship I've seen a mother ship too we're there together but when I saw this as well

[00:38:59] it was a clear summer's day as well that's the other thing it was during the day there was no as I remember there was no clouds inside there probably was clouds but we had a clear view of this whatever it was

[00:39:11] the annoying thing is we always used to play football in the street with all different friends I've not spoke to any of the friends that possibly could have seen it as well but I know there was others there that saw it my brother definitely remembers it

[00:39:23] my brother remembers seeing it, he doesn't know what it was and he's not as into this sort of stuff as much as I am my brother so he's very much no that wasn't that normally he doesn't always jump to the paranormal like I do but

[00:39:39] even he says I don't know what that was what was that to this day I don't know but I'd love to see it again man it was a cool thing to see I'm just thinking there could it maybe be some sort of don't jump on me

[00:39:55] like some sort of like Narvan Light scenario or some sort of maybe like you know pollution causes all these colours in the air could it be some sort of like that are you talking to me here about mine no no about Tommy's that's sort of what I'm thinking

[00:40:11] of some sort of maybe an explanation that's what I saw I'll look at that Tommy he's claiming this so this is the shape that's what I saw and they were like those eye looking things what kind of picture did Billy's artwork on the inside of the tree

[00:40:27] they're saying newer photos of me for sure man the thing that I saw it was definitely a solid like you would see a plane in the sky it was a solid thing that seemed like it was there it wasn't like a trick or the lie I don't know

[00:40:49] it was very weird man obviously as we all know I like to come up with the answers for everything and that's the only thing I can think of is what I say about it obviously if you all say it was 100% like a solid object it definitely was

[00:41:07] that's where mine struggles to argue against your theory for mine there because mine as I say it looked like as if just whatever was behind it was blurred plus I was a kid which doesn't help I wasn't an adult or anything in terms of yours Tommy

[00:41:23] what would you compare it to size wise I know it's really difficult because it's in the sky how high is it if you were to hold an object to your window what object would it be oh wow so I've sort of said like if you can imagine

[00:41:43] and again I don't know because I don't know exactly how far away it was really you know it was just I'd love to know the exact distance but I would imagine if you picked up say I don't know the shard in London

[00:41:55] and just put it well out there in the sky up floating in the sky that's what it was like you know it was just like a big building but it was far out there but we could see it I don't know

[00:42:11] I don't know how close it was to us that's the problem with the sky there's not much perspective to go on yeah I don't remember seeing planes at the time but I'm not sure that's a good word describing it though as if it was up in the sky

[00:42:27] I'm picturing that right now I love what you're still looking at see it's all my brain works I'm looking at it was a wild thing to see I've seen it, I'm always looking for UFOs because I love it and I've seen lights in the sky

[00:42:43] lights moving the sky at night I can't explain I've seen a lot of weird stuff during the day when you see something like that I've seen it I don't know man even though as much as I love it I do try and debunk things as well

[00:43:01] I jump to the paranormal all the time because I love it I do try and go no it could be that with that and other things I've experienced there's a lot more out there that's all I can say definitely in terms of the second one

[00:43:21] what do you think you saw there now we've had a bit of a thing on everything what do you believe that was I think like you said possibly it could be some sort of technology that we don't it's not our technology the technology we don't know about

[00:43:39] it could be our technology that we don't know about but it definitely seems to be some sort of at the time I was literally like me and my mother and I we just can't even understand we can't imagine it but it could have been some sort of technology

[00:43:57] that was down here doing something it's the way it's shot off as well we followed these things all the way up and they were pretty much in the same rhythm pretty much in the same speed and then all of a sudden it was flash flash flash

[00:44:11] and that was the really weird thing as well yeah and had we not seen those flashes would it be a different thing in my mind would it be more maybe it was balloons maybe it was a sort of texture that was just looking like it was changing constantly

[00:44:27] but the way they shot off as well I don't know man yeah that's your confirmation isn't it it sort of sounds a bit like you know like nano technology stuff this is what I was waiting to finish because I was going to say

[00:44:41] like the Iron Man suit and stuff yeah sorry got an obsession mate yeah I do I've seen him in the sky when I was 8 mate that's why he's like a hero Jesus okay I love working should we get everyone's thoughts on the famous UFO things

[00:45:03] yeah let's go let's go I'm going to be upfront and honest about these as well so we'll stick to home so Randall shouldn't tell me I'm sure you know the whole story about that that's interesting man that was at the American military base in the UK

[00:45:19] I've not been there yet but I'm looking I want to go there soon that's a wild one man and what year was that in I'm trying to think what year that was 70s was it was it 70s yeah always the 70s I think that's a wild story man

[00:45:37] and obviously it was a smaller craft that had like 1980 it was 1980 refresh my memory of that one you just said it was a lighthouse oh that one yeah it was a lighthouse it wasn't it was that's what the debunkers were saying they were seeing a lighthouse in the

[00:45:59] in the distance but wasn't there didn't someone touch it or something and there was there's that the bloke that was in charge was on the table and there was the scotch marks on the floor yes perfect triangle I mean that's kind of like I was is it Billy

[00:46:17] no no I remember that I remember that episode and everything was kind of wrote off when you went into the lights I can deal with yeah because there was a fucking farmhouse down there wasn't there I saw there was the farmhouse so they said obviously

[00:46:33] that one of them was definitely just like lights in the window and then there was of course the lighthouse that scene one thing that's it your brain goes astray but then what about the bits on the floor I remember something there was something that you mentioned it wasn't

[00:46:47] that was the one being you carried on I showed me the photo that episode was about an hour and a half long to say it was a perfect one it wasn't you showed me the photo what was it? just the markings of where I wanted like that is

[00:47:03] didn't they get loads of radiation here as well it wasn't loads that was the other thing that me and you argued on it was like tiny amount more it was more than what it should be but not to the point where it was like you know

[00:47:15] dangerous or anything it was like minuscule I love that if it was like normal it was like 0.02 that was like 0.04 or something like that but there was more radiation it was like 0.2 milligalses more something like that what about Roswell and what did we make with that

[00:47:37] Billy's shaking his head already I think that's the most convincing one myself I've been about it for a week didn't they put it out in the papers that a UFO crashed like they come out with it and then they sort of backtracked

[00:47:51] and started saying no you know it wasn't this it was a weather balloon or whatever they said yeah the weather balloon and everything but obviously there's the reports of like the metal that couldn't damage it was sledgehammers and stuff nothing happened with it and everything

[00:48:05] but then obviously this is the same thing that has crashed and it's just like howl they say sledgehammers aren't denting it or anything and then obviously there's the report that obviously there was a body taken away but then there was like crash test

[00:48:19] dummies and stuff that were used as well and taken away I think the Roswell one's the most compelling for me to be honest if you're going to go on and say it's the most compelling in terms of the big ones like that then yes

[00:48:33] that does but again there's just there's I don't know there's not enough substance it's too much back and forwards and back and forwards normally means good that's kind of what you want because they're going to be like okay hang on media get all of this blah blah blah

[00:48:47] cover it up whatever I get that but yeah just no not for me I find it interesting when military guys talk about it when they're still working in the military I've seen this because they're risking so much doing that you know so I find that interesting

[00:49:03] when you get police officers military people like that that are in the jobs where it could affect them coming out and saying that even though it shouldn't you should be able to say what you've seen but it does I think less now but back then

[00:49:17] it probably really did so I don't know man I think the interesting thing with Roswell as well for me is obviously our friends over at Caffanator Conspiracies I don't know if you've heard of them Tommy they've done a whole episode on Roswell and there

[00:49:31] I think the thing that I find very very interesting that is that that town was basically like it was well and truly you know in the slums yeah it's like back to all this now since we've just been talking about this

[00:49:43] I remember that was one of the killer things for me that because of that but even now obviously they get so much like tourism and everything now just because of that and there's so many like museums and attractions and everything just

[00:49:55] just for that it's like fully revive the town so then it's like there's the argument was it all just set up to get the town back on the map as they say which is a very good theory I think but it's also the most compelling one

[00:50:09] to me for actual Indians I don't know what to believe it's one of those tricky ones I like the not talked about stories if that makes sense that sounds strange example Tommy's experience I guess people's personal experiences certain ones I can't stand that I'm really sorry

[00:50:33] I just don't like the kidnapped ones I hate the abductions the abductions mate yeah just I can't I can't comprehend that there we go what do you reckon on abduction Tom do you reckon anyone actually has been abducted I've talked to

[00:50:49] a few people that claim to have been abducted and you know I believe what they're saying like until I know that they're lying it's very hard like these people going so much detail and I've had people like crying in front of me about it and stuff like that

[00:51:07] and really you know I find it hard this is what we need if you have any links or anything tell me send them across because I think me and Liam are sort of basically you want to speak to someone who's been abducted don't you

[00:51:21] I can send some people I've been out for sure this makes you someone who's willing to be interrogated I've got an open mind I'm not going to be like you know anything like that but I think again I don't know what to believe with the abductions

[00:51:43] to be honest because I think I've heard so many stories and I hear somewhere and I'm just like I mean yeah that could probably be plausible but then there's other parts where I'm just like what the hell have you been taking I want some

[00:51:59] this is killer because of social media as well because as soon as you say it's immediate attention regardless of how outlandish or how crazy the story is you're going to generate some media attention from somewhere that to me it doesn't do it any justice

[00:52:17] if there is someone out there who has experienced something as crazy as that then the majority affect the minority don't know so it's difficult that's why I feel like you need to with you Tommy you've spoke to a few so you've had that experience of hearing

[00:52:35] the genuinity in the voice if that's a word which changes things and Liam haven't we've just seen the classic YouTube clips and read the stories speaking to someone's very different it is different when you have that personal one-to-one conversation which you guys have and I don't know

[00:52:55] you just get a sense if someone's you know playing you or telling you lies and I've not experienced that where I've been like sitting there going I don't believe this they're either really good liars I think there's definitely something to it that is for sure yeah

[00:53:15] and a lot of people say that these are more common than we think and a lot of times people don't even know they're being abducted until they get regression and things like that it goes deep man those ones they're the ones that interest me

[00:53:31] it's classic isn't it because it makes the most sense but I feel like if they're going to abduct you you're not going to remember oh they're going to have some sort of flashback dream something and then wake up maybe you'll have some on your arm that wasn't there

[00:53:43] that's how it is a lot of the time that's how it is well that was a way of tip-talk thing that I've seen trying to claim that that was the reason for dreams oh really that's when you get abducted and it's them

[00:53:53] putting something in your head so you don't remember actually being abducted that's horrific yeah a scream memory I like that thought because I don't remember dreams anymore so I don't know what I'm saying hahahaha I only remember a select hahahaha what er there we go that

[00:54:13] we've been going nearly an hour what do you reckon on the Men in Black Tommy do you reckon that's a thing because we don't have something that long ago didn't we yeah and Billy you struggle with that I really really struggled with that one yeah

[00:54:27] well I've talked to people that have experienced it I've talked to people that I had Nick Hayes on the show he's a really cool guy and he looks into the UFOs and has got some cool pictures and he said he had a black helicopter

[00:54:41] outside his house one night just hovering above his house I mean very strange I don't know man I feel like there could be a shadow government that do put in these yes if they don't want it out there then you're going to have people that are stopping it

[00:54:57] 100% I believe in that it was the backstory surrounding that one guy it was crazy wasn't it there's a whole episode that me and Liam did with Caffeineet conspiracy yeah and the story that came out from that there was a lot of questionable scenarios

[00:55:15] it was a book we wrote on the books one day and obviously on the boat and stuff on the lake and I mean it was definitely a case of it was one of them where the longer I told you the story

[00:55:27] the less even I believed it because it did just get more and more ridiculous where this idea that there is a secret government 100% I believe in that there's definitely some like you say departments especially the bigger countries their governments the deal was stuff like that 100%

[00:55:49] whether it's the case of the likes of Will Smith and Tabalny Jones running about I don't know I basically said we were aliens didn't we that's what I didn't like about that he was calling the men in black aliens absolutely not in terms of a government sort of

[00:56:07] what you call it a government department yes I've talked to people that have been looking into the dogman looking into Bigfoot and subjects like that and they've told me that they've had not your typical men in black but they've had people show up and say

[00:56:25] I'll stop looking into this now I mean I don't know if they didn't want it out there then that is a way to do it I think if I had a couple of guys turn up at my house dressed in black saying

[00:56:37] you need to stop this I'd be worried yeah well I spoke to obviously Harley Owens who have you spoke to before obviously the guy does the Bigfoot research and he's not doing this yet all these YouTube stuff like his TikToks are all restricted they do that man

[00:56:55] on TikTok he's only got like a thousand followers on TikToks like why are they so bothered about that yeah I mean could I have to understand if he had like two million followers yeah obviously he's on the lower end of the spectrum

[00:57:07] as far as creators for that sort of stuff go big organization well exactly, find anything it makes you wonder though what's the problem with that some of the stuff they allow out there some of the stuff they allow out there you know it's wild

[00:57:23] and then they pick on certain things if they ban something if they take something off you're like hmm why? all the stuff that's out there why have you picked that that's not really that bad I don't know I feel like there's something in that

[00:57:39] they definitely do that on social media well I think that's why I want to get rid of TikTok because TikTok is essentially well it's a global snapchat isn't it you can very easily just whip your phone out and record from it and anyone can see it on TikTok

[00:57:51] it's not like you can put some out on Facebook or Twitter on your Snapchat so many people will follow in you and stuff unless they get shared all about but obviously because of the follow-up page on TikTok it can go to everybody anybody

[00:58:05] which is probably why a lot of governments want rid of it yeah it's true there's a lot more stuff on TikTok now absolutely that's where I get my news, I don't watch the news anymore I just go on it and TikTok and those sort of things

[00:58:19] they seem to have the the real news and the quickest news, yeah so I mean, plus with TikTok if it's some kind of depression you can just get rid of it yeah I'll have the challenge yeah, yeah, we just scrolled down here absolutely no I do believe that

[00:58:39] when you see things on YouTube there was this one occasion I can't remember how many years ago it was now it was a clip they owned a farm and they'd filmed something they weren't claiming it to be aliens or anything he just said Strange Object in the Sky

[00:58:53] the title was something along the lines of that it reached like a million viewers within no time and it was taken down with just like OG YouTube yeah, yeah, yeah, it was taken down with 48 hours and yeah yeah, so yeah, man

[00:59:09] and so we don't know now what's there has everyone happened with us I've loved it, man. Thank you very much guys I don't want to take up too much of everyone's time especially with the football on yeah big game today boys, yeah that's it thanks for watching everybody

[00:59:27] it's been a pleasure having you on Tommy thank you for joining us thank you very much do you want to let people know quickly where they can find you? yeah we're on all the podcast platforms Tommy Cullums, let's get freaky two episodes a week

[00:59:41] we've got a lot of podcasts and we're on YouTube now as well so yeah come and say hi man thank you very much, it's been a pleasure being on guys thank you pleasure having you Tommy, pleasure so yeah go check us out, you know buy on the Instagram

[00:59:55] find all our merch stores and things and Liam can help with the Instagram name just off the top of his head let's underscore talk about Pod thank you very much mate right then guys, so we shall speak to you next time Billy see you later mate bye