Let's Talk About... Jack The Stripper! Ep.62

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[00:01:00] Right there guys, welcome back to Let's Talk About.

[00:01:02] You got Liam and Billy here once again as always.

[00:01:05] Billy, how the hell are you?

[00:01:07] I'm alright, I'm alright. Same alright as I was 10 minutes ago and same alright as I was 40 minutes before that.

[00:01:15] Alright, just getting our usual joke in there.

[00:01:17] Just getting our usual joke in.

[00:01:18] You have to.

[00:01:19] Exactly.

[00:01:22] Well, potentially this could be the last...

[00:01:25] No, it won't be.

[00:01:27] No.

[00:01:28] Never mind.

[00:01:29] Well, if it's not, we'll make sure it's not.

[00:01:31] Well, it might be the last one that you're on unless you can't jump on any of the potential guest ones that we have lined up.

[00:01:38] Right, okay.

[00:01:38] Yeah, so this could be Billy's last episode of Let's Talk About.

[00:01:42] Sad times, people.

[00:01:43] Sad times.

[00:01:44] I'm not that upset because I'm so excited for the future.

[00:01:49] Right then, mate.

[00:01:50] So we're going back into the true crime world today because we've not done a true crime one for a while, have we really?

[00:01:54] We haven't, mate.

[00:01:54] Haven't for a long time.

[00:01:56] No.

[00:01:56] So if I tell you, murder in London that killed prostitutes, who are you thinking of?

[00:02:04] Jack the Ripper.

[00:02:05] Yes, well done, well done.

[00:02:07] But that's not who we're talking about today.

[00:02:09] Today we're talking about Jack the Stripper.

[00:02:11] Oh, fuck off.

[00:02:14] Swear to God.

[00:02:14] Swear to God.

[00:02:15] It's fucking real.

[00:02:17] Fucking real.

[00:02:18] Right.

[00:02:19] Have a listen to this.

[00:02:21] So, 70 years after Jack the Ripper murdered and disemboweled prostitutes in London's East End,

[00:02:26] a new generation of prostitutes...

[00:02:28] That's not so good.

[00:02:31] A new generation of prostitutes learned to live with the ever-present fear of a lurking killer.

[00:02:39] This Jack carried no knife, but he was every bit as lethal, claiming seven victims to Jack the Ripper's five,

[00:02:47] and possessed a far more greater longevity, operating over nearly six years compared to the Ripper's ten weeks.

[00:02:54] At the end of the case, both killers shared a common attribute.

[00:02:58] Despite a wealth of theories and assertions, neither Jack has ever been captured or identified.

[00:03:05] It's another one, like I said, no one knows who he is.

[00:03:08] Yeah, I can't say I'm a Jack the Stripper.

[00:03:12] I knew you'd like the name.

[00:03:14] I knew you would like the name.

[00:03:16] Yeah, it's different.

[00:03:18] It doesn't sound like a serial killer.

[00:03:20] No, it doesn't.

[00:03:20] No, it doesn't.

[00:03:21] That's what I mean.

[00:03:22] That's why I thought it was funny.

[00:03:23] Oh, mate, I can't wait to find out why he's called that.

[00:03:27] Yeah, well, we will say that, obviously, we're laughing at the name.

[00:03:30] We're not laughing at what he's done.

[00:03:32] Absolutely not.

[00:03:33] What he's done is horrific.

[00:03:34] I'm assuming he just went for strippers, but it still doesn't make sense as to why he got the name Jack the Stripper.

[00:03:38] Well, no prostitutes, you feel.

[00:03:40] Well, prostitutes, what is he?

[00:03:42] He's got to be a stripper.

[00:03:45] You're laughing, but he has to be, right?

[00:03:47] Jack the Stripper, he's got to be.

[00:03:49] Right, just have a listen to this, right, then.

[00:03:50] So we're going to go back in time, mate.

[00:03:51] Yeah, so we're going back to the 17th of June, 1959.

[00:03:54] Prostitutes, Elizabeth Figg, aged 21, was found floating in the Thames, dressed only in a slip.

[00:04:00] I don't know what that means.

[00:04:02] What's a slip?

[00:04:03] I don't know.

[00:04:04] Oh, yeah.

[00:04:04] Her death attributed to strangulation, as with many old unsolved cases, is a discrepancy.

[00:04:12] Another report says they stumbled across the body of a woman that sat up against a small willow tree,

[00:04:17] her blue and white striped dress torn open to reveal her breasts and some scratches on her throat.

[00:04:23] She had been strangled.

[00:04:26] So there's two theories about where she was found, basically.

[00:04:29] Okay.

[00:04:31] Which I find weird, because, I mean, yes, that's a while ago, but it's not that long ago.

[00:04:35] It's not that long ago.

[00:04:35] Exactly.

[00:04:36] It's only 1959.

[00:04:38] Yeah, my fucking man was alive then.

[00:04:39] Like, it's not that long ago.

[00:04:40] Yeah.

[00:04:42] Right then, so we're going to jump forward a couple of years.

[00:04:44] So the 8th of November, 1963.

[00:04:48] Four and a half years passed before discovery of the next victim, with the skeleton of 22-year-old Gwyneth Reese,

[00:04:57] unearthed during a clearance of the River Thames side rubbish dump.

[00:05:01] She was last seen getting into a van on the 29th of September, 1963.

[00:05:06] The cause of death was difficult to assert, and homicide investigations later tried to disconnect both murders from the stripper series,

[00:05:15] but today the better evidence suggests that these were practice runs,

[00:05:21] the early crimes committed by a killer who had yet hit his stride.

[00:05:28] I'm confused.

[00:05:29] The stripper...

[00:05:30] What?

[00:05:32] So basically, the cuts of the chase is called the stripper,

[00:05:36] because obviously the people that he kills, he basically strips them off, like the clothes.

[00:05:41] That's stupid.

[00:05:43] Why can't I be Jack the Strangler?

[00:05:45] Because he's not strangling all of them.

[00:05:49] You can't call him Jack the Stripper, that's why no one fucking knows who he is.

[00:05:53] Poor bastard's gone longer, done more of a job, and...

[00:05:56] I mean, rest in peace to all the women who have fell to him.

[00:05:59] I'm just putting...

[00:06:00] Everybody knows what I'm like anyway.

[00:06:03] You can't just...

[00:06:04] Wow.

[00:06:06] But no one knows who the fuck he is, because he's called Jack the Stripper.

[00:06:10] I'm sorry, but if I'm getting chased out in an alley by Jack the Stripper, I'm not scared.

[00:06:15] No, don't be so bloody stupid, man.

[00:06:17] No, I'm not saying like obviously...

[00:06:20] Right, okay, I'm trying to...

[00:06:22] They haven't called him that for a laugh.

[00:06:26] Exactly, that makes it ten times worse.

[00:06:29] Yes, but it's like the original Jack the Ripper.

[00:06:31] He's called Jack the Ripper because they don't know his identity.

[00:06:34] It was like Peter Sutcliffe was called the Yorkshire Ripper because they don't know his identity.

[00:06:37] Yeah, but he ripped people's parts out.

[00:06:41] You know what I mean?

[00:06:42] That's why he was a ripper.

[00:06:44] Yeah, and he's stripping them off, so he's stripping them...

[00:06:47] But did they all strip them off?

[00:06:49] Not necessarily.

[00:06:50] I'm called Ted Bundy, Ted the...

[00:06:52] Okay, yeah, okay, we're going into names now, but we know he got caught and stuff.

[00:06:55] But Jack the Stripper...

[00:06:56] No, it's annoyed me.

[00:06:58] It's really, really annoyed me that there's no logical sense behind that name.

[00:07:03] It's perfectly logical.

[00:07:05] He's called Jack the Stripper because he comes across the team.

[00:07:07] It's like Jack the Ripper and he strips people off, so he's Jack the Stripper.

[00:07:11] Next guest we have on, Ask the Myth of Herder, Jack the Stripper.

[00:07:14] They're not going to call him Jack the Ripper Mark II, are they?

[00:07:17] Why does he have to be Jack?

[00:07:20] Fucking Jeff.

[00:07:21] Well, there you go, Jeff the Ripper.

[00:07:26] He's doing like a hurricane, he's changing the name every time he's gone.

[00:07:30] Exactly.

[00:07:32] Fucking Jack the Stripper.

[00:07:34] Exactly.

[00:07:35] I thought he was going to be like a stripper that would go around to the prostitutes or some shit

[00:07:39] and then kill him.

[00:07:40] Like, that would have made perfect sense.

[00:07:42] I know it sounds stupid, but it would have been...

[00:07:45] There's a terrifying tales episode down there for you.

[00:07:52] It would have made more sense though.

[00:07:54] I can't believe they've called him Jack the Stripper.

[00:07:57] I can't believe it for that.

[00:08:02] Right, we're going to jump another year forward, mate.

[00:08:04] So we're now on the 2nd of February 1964.

[00:08:07] Yeah.

[00:08:08] 30-year-old Hannah Telford was the next to die.

[00:08:12] Her naked corpse discovered in the Thames by a boatman.

[00:08:16] Her stockings were pulled down round her ankles, panties stuffed inside her mouth, but she had drowned.

[00:08:22] And the inquest produced an open verdict, refusing to rule out suicide, however improbable it seemed.

[00:08:31] He stuffed her panties in her mouth.

[00:08:34] Yeah.

[00:08:35] Oh, the guy's a freak.

[00:08:37] Obviously.

[00:08:37] Name fits a little more now.

[00:08:39] Yeah, exactly, see.

[00:08:40] Why could I call him Jack the Stuffer?

[00:08:42] Because I don't know how many of them he's stuffed.

[00:08:45] Fair play.

[00:08:47] That's fucking weird.

[00:08:50] For fuck's sake.

[00:08:52] That hit me late.

[00:08:57] For fuck's sake.

[00:09:00] Sorry, mate.

[00:09:02] I don't know how many of them he's stuffed.

[00:09:04] Well, I don't.

[00:09:06] Right.

[00:09:08] Just a few months further forward this time.

[00:09:10] So the 9th of April 1964.

[00:09:13] 20-year-old Irene Lockwood was found naked and dead in the Thames, floating 300 yards from the spot where Telford was found.

[00:09:20] Another drowning victim, she was four months pregnant when she died.

[00:09:25] Jesus Christ.

[00:09:26] Exactly.

[00:09:27] Suspect Kenneth Archibald confessed to the murder later that month, then recanted his statement blaming depression.

[00:09:34] He was subsequently cleared a trial.

[00:09:40] So there's your first potential suspect.

[00:09:45] What?

[00:09:47] Yeah.

[00:09:48] That seems a bit fishy to me.

[00:09:51] You had to go there, didn't you?

[00:09:54] No, it's not to do with the Thames.

[00:09:56] Have you been in the Thames?

[00:09:58] There'd be no fish in there.

[00:09:59] They'd be fucking poisoned.

[00:10:01] Well, yeah.

[00:10:02] That's very true.

[00:10:02] It just seems weird, though.

[00:10:04] So you've got this...

[00:10:04] Why would you do that?

[00:10:06] It doesn't matter how depressed you are.

[00:10:07] There's a pregnant woman who's been fucking killed in the most horrific way.

[00:10:11] Well, the only thing I can imagine is...

[00:10:13] I mean, when did they stop doing a death penalty over here?

[00:10:18] That's the only thing I can think is...

[00:10:20] It was before then, mate.

[00:10:21] It was long before then.

[00:10:24] Was it?

[00:10:25] Yeah.

[00:10:26] It was like 1930s or 1920s that we stopped.

[00:10:29] Let's have a quick Google search.

[00:10:31] Yeah.

[00:10:32] Yeah.

[00:10:32] Let's get what happens.

[00:10:33] Let's get what happens.

[00:11:21] When was England's last execution?

[00:11:29] August 13, 1964.

[00:11:32] What?

[00:11:35] England as well?

[00:11:36] Yeah, so a couple of months after this.

[00:11:39] Right, okay.

[00:11:40] Right.

[00:11:41] Peter Allen and Gwyn Evans were hanged in separate prisons in Liverpool and Manchester.

[00:11:49] So yeah, a little side note there.

[00:11:51] Right.

[00:11:52] Jesus.

[00:11:53] Exactly.

[00:11:54] Yeah, so that's four.

[00:11:59] Yeah.

[00:12:01] Yeah.

[00:12:01] Right then.

[00:12:02] So again, a couple of days forward now.

[00:12:06] So the 24th of April, 1964.

[00:12:09] Yeah.

[00:12:09] Yeah.

[00:12:11] I don't know how I'm saying this.

[00:12:14] Helen Barthelmy?

[00:12:16] It doesn't sound like a name, but that's how I'm reading it.

[00:12:18] Like we said in the last episode, we're both very dyslexic.

[00:12:22] Okay.

[00:12:22] So, Helen was aged 20 and was the first victim found away from the river.

[00:12:27] Her naked body was discovered near a sports field in Brentwood.

[00:12:31] Four front teeth were missing, with part of one lodged in her throat.

[00:12:37] Tracy's multi-coloured spray paint on the body suggested that she had been kept for a while after her death in a paint shop before she was dumped in the field.

[00:12:47] Now that's mental.

[00:12:49] That's disgusting.

[00:12:51] That one's very, very, very weird.

[00:12:54] Jack the Painter.

[00:12:55] Exactly.

[00:12:59] Now, the fact that I haven't heard of this blows my mind.

[00:13:04] Because I watch serial killers like no tomorrow, documentaries, everything.

[00:13:09] That sounds fucked, but I'm in it well.

[00:13:11] Well, yeah, you're getting tips, aren't you?

[00:13:14] Yeah, of course.

[00:13:15] You never know.

[00:13:18] I learned what not to do.

[00:13:20] Yeah, but I can't say I'd ever see the name Jack the Stripper and think, oh, yeah, I'll learn a trick or two from him.

[00:13:28] You see what I mean?

[00:13:30] No, but like I said, that one's just weird to me, though.

[00:13:33] Like you say, obviously, four of her teeth are missing, part of one lodged in her throat.

[00:13:37] Well, yeah, that's where it fucks up there.

[00:13:39] Because, you know, you get your classic serial killer trademark, you know, they go back.

[00:13:43] They always say they go back to the bodies and the sadistic sort of way.

[00:13:47] And I'll keep a body and, you know, you know what happens.

[00:13:52] But the four teeth missing, one lodged in her throat.

[00:13:55] I mean, the fact that she's covered in spray paint and stuff.

[00:13:58] You'd imagine she's probably tried to fight back, God rest her soul.

[00:14:02] Well, yeah.

[00:14:04] Yeah.

[00:14:05] Yeah, fucking weird.

[00:14:08] As I say, I just don't understand, like, saying that she's been kept and stuff.

[00:14:13] Well, it's this fucking guy that hanged himself in.

[00:14:18] Handed himself in.

[00:14:19] It's got to be him.

[00:14:20] Which is bizarre.

[00:14:21] Because you don't...

[00:14:22] I don't know.

[00:14:24] Right.

[00:14:25] In at the summertime now, mate.

[00:14:27] So, the 14th of July, 1964.

[00:14:29] 30-year-old Mary Fleming was discarded nude and lifeless on a dead-end London street.

[00:14:36] Witnesses glimpsed a van and its driver near the scene.

[00:14:39] But none could finally describe the man or vehicle with any certainty.

[00:14:44] Missing since the 11th of July, Fleming had apparently been suffocated or choked to death,

[00:14:49] as opposed to strangled.

[00:14:51] And her dentures were missing from the scene.

[00:14:53] So, I mean...

[00:14:55] So, they've all been strangled?

[00:14:57] Yeah, basically, yeah.

[00:14:58] Jack the Strangler?

[00:15:00] Well, no, because they haven't all been strangled.

[00:15:02] Ah.

[00:15:03] We're not done with it.

[00:15:04] Like you say, I mean, it's similar sort of ways, but...

[00:15:08] Right, so he's suffocated her in what?

[00:15:11] Well, no, so it says there that she'd apparently been suffocated or choked to death,

[00:15:16] as opposed to strangled.

[00:15:17] I mean, is choking different to strangling?

[00:15:19] Not really.

[00:15:21] Mm.

[00:15:22] It's like saying throttle's different than strangled.

[00:15:24] It's not.

[00:15:25] Yeah, but that's not an actual thing.

[00:15:27] That's just the...

[00:15:28] Terminology, yeah.

[00:15:29] Yeah.

[00:15:30] It's almost like a slang word for it, but it's not.

[00:15:32] Yeah.

[00:15:32] You know what I'm saying?

[00:15:33] Yeah, yeah.

[00:15:34] Right.

[00:15:37] What I find mental there, though, is that dentures were missing from the scene.

[00:15:41] First of all, 30 years old, you've got dentures.

[00:15:44] It's not out of the realms of possibility, but...

[00:15:46] Listen, this is Britain in the 1960s or what have you.

[00:15:49] Yeah, it's...

[00:15:49] I suppose.

[00:15:50] Yeah.

[00:15:51] I suppose.

[00:15:52] But yeah.

[00:15:54] Has he kept the teeth?

[00:15:55] This is what I was just going to say.

[00:15:56] Now we're getting a little sort of...

[00:15:58] Some gold fillings, maybe?

[00:16:00] Thing.

[00:16:01] Is he weird?

[00:16:02] He's got a...

[00:16:03] For the scalp, man.

[00:16:04] For the sake.

[00:16:05] He's got a thing with teeth by the sounds of it.

[00:16:08] Yeah, possibly.

[00:16:10] Possibly.

[00:16:10] Maybe he's a bit like the Tooth Fairy.

[00:16:15] I'm not about the ones that leaves the quid.

[00:16:16] I'm not about on fucking Hannibal.

[00:16:18] Ah, right.

[00:16:18] Okay.

[00:16:19] Yeah.

[00:16:19] I was stunted there, mate.

[00:16:22] Right.

[00:16:23] Okay.

[00:16:23] Yeah?

[00:16:23] Okay.

[00:16:26] Yeah.

[00:16:27] Strange.

[00:16:27] Very strange.

[00:16:30] There you go.

[00:16:31] You've done it.

[00:16:32] Jack the Tooth Fairy.

[00:16:37] Right.

[00:16:38] Right.

[00:16:38] So 25th of November 1964.

[00:16:41] Margaret McGowan, age 21, had been missing for a month.

[00:16:44] When her nude corpse was found in Kensington, police noted the familiar trace of paint on

[00:16:50] her skin and one of her teeth had been forced from its socket in front of her mouth.

[00:16:56] So basically she had a tooth ripped out and she was covered in paint.

[00:16:59] But again, they're all found naked or clothes ripped off them.

[00:17:04] Yeah.

[00:17:05] Yeah.

[00:17:05] I still don't care.

[00:17:06] I don't like stripper.

[00:17:08] He's a dentist.

[00:17:14] He's a tradesman.

[00:17:16] Fucking part-time dentist.

[00:17:19] He's a dentist.

[00:17:19] So he's a dentist who does art on the side and a bit of strangulation on the weekend.

[00:17:26] He's to the road.

[00:17:28] Stop making these jokes, man.

[00:17:30] People have actually died here.

[00:17:32] Yes, yes.

[00:17:32] But you've got to laugh in the face of fucking adversity.

[00:17:36] Exactly.

[00:17:37] Exactly.

[00:17:37] Good word.

[00:17:38] Sometimes that's all you can do.

[00:17:40] Right, mate.

[00:17:41] We're at the last one.

[00:17:42] It's the number seven.

[00:17:44] We are.

[00:17:45] Lucky number seven.

[00:17:46] Right.

[00:17:47] Into the new year again.

[00:17:48] So 16th of February 1965.

[00:17:51] So the last that died was 27-year-old Bridget O'Hara.

[00:17:56] Last seen alive on January 11th 1965.

[00:18:00] Her body was found hidden in some shrubbery on the Heron Trading Estate in Acton.

[00:18:06] Her front teeth were missing and pathologists determined that she had died on her knees.

[00:18:11] The corpse was partially mummified and as if from prolonged storage in a cool, dry place.

[00:18:20] So he's got a fridge as well then.

[00:18:22] Yes, this is like the UK's version of Dharma.

[00:18:25] Well, no, not really.

[00:18:26] Well, no, to be perfectly honest with you, he sounds a lot like freaking, like I say, like the Toe Fairy from Red Dragon.

[00:18:32] Yeah.

[00:18:33] Or Manhunter, whichever version of it you've watched.

[00:18:36] Hmm.

[00:18:38] So he was taking the bodies back, man.

[00:18:40] Yeah, yeah, but again, no, it's another one with missing teeth.

[00:18:43] Yeah, yeah.

[00:18:45] I mean, the fact that it's like partially mummified and it's been stored in a cool, dry place.

[00:18:51] There's a lot of similarities with them, but then there's a lot of things as well that are very different.

[00:18:55] These are the ones that are, it's going to sound weird, these are the ones that I like because these are the ones where you've got to think about them a lot more.

[00:19:01] You know what I'm saying?

[00:19:01] Yeah, yeah.

[00:19:04] 100%.

[00:19:07] It's just, it's just clearly a psychopath.

[00:19:11] I truly believe it's the guy that handed himself in.

[00:19:13] You reckon?

[00:19:14] Yeah.

[00:19:15] Because you've got to be in some state of mind to hand yourself in if you haven't done them.

[00:19:22] Because he'd have known they were all linked, they were all around the same river, around the same area at that time.

[00:19:29] Yeah, but that's what I'm saying though.

[00:19:30] Like obviously we have just discovered that we did still do executions here then.

[00:19:35] Like I said, weirdly maybe he was hoping for that.

[00:19:38] Yeah, but hasn't that crossed their mind?

[00:19:42] Hasn't that crossed like the police and investigators, whatever you, detectives?

[00:19:47] Hasn't that crossed their mind?

[00:19:49] Like you'd think...

[00:19:50] What crossed their mind?

[00:19:50] What are you talking about?

[00:19:51] The fact that it could have been him.

[00:19:54] Well, it's one of them though, isn't it?

[00:19:55] Like I say, if he's confessed and then he's turned around and like say recanted his statement and blaming it on the fact that he was depressed...

[00:20:05] They still watch him?

[00:20:07] Well yeah, they probably did.

[00:20:09] Well you'd hope so.

[00:20:10] Exactly, that's what I'm saying.

[00:20:12] You'd hope so.

[00:20:12] It's their 60s, mate.

[00:20:15] Yeah, so they probably didn't.

[00:20:17] Exactly.

[00:20:19] That's what I'm saying, but like I say, that's all we can do though.

[00:20:21] All you can hope is that they did.

[00:20:23] But like I say, I mean, me personally, we're getting onto a very touchy, dark subject here.

[00:20:32] But like I say, obviously that can be my only theory on it, is the fact that like I say, we were still doing executions back then.

[00:20:38] And if he's depressed and wants to die, then he's going to say, right, look, this was me.

[00:20:45] Yeah, okay.

[00:20:47] But then like in a very, in my logical brain, should it be just easier to do it yourself anyway?

[00:20:55] I'm not saying that people should do it, obviously.

[00:20:58] You know, if you are depressed.

[00:20:59] I get it.

[00:21:00] No, I...

[00:21:00] But you know what I'm saying?

[00:21:02] Yeah, I completely understand what you're saying.

[00:21:03] Yeah, it's like...

[00:21:04] Again, to put this in a slightly joky way, it's a lot of admin.

[00:21:09] Yeah, yeah.

[00:21:10] Yeah, it's one of those things, isn't it?

[00:21:13] It's easier for someone else to do it to you than sometimes it is to do it to yourself.

[00:21:17] Because I've always...

[00:21:17] No, but that's what I mean though.

[00:21:19] Like, I mean, if you're in that frame of mind, then it's not.

[00:21:23] You just...

[00:21:25] Yeah.

[00:21:25] It doesn't matter, mate.

[00:21:26] You just do it.

[00:21:27] Yeah.

[00:21:28] If you're in that frame of mind, trust me.

[00:21:30] It's got to be him.

[00:21:32] It's got to be.

[00:21:32] I don't know.

[00:21:33] It's a strange one.

[00:21:35] Right.

[00:21:35] Here's a little bit more for you then.

[00:21:37] So, despite appeals...

[00:21:38] Jesus Christ.

[00:21:41] It's just a funny sentence.

[00:21:43] Right.

[00:21:43] I'm going to do that all again.

[00:21:45] So, despite appeals to prostitutes for information on their kinky customers, police were groping

[00:21:50] in the dark.

[00:21:51] What?

[00:21:52] You would fuck right off!

[00:22:00] I swear to God, that's what he'd say.

[00:22:03] Inspector John DeRose suggested that the last six victims had been literally choked to death

[00:22:09] by oral sex.

[00:22:13] I don't understand that.

[00:22:14] I mean, Christ.

[00:22:15] I mean, fair play.

[00:22:16] I was going to say.

[00:22:17] Yeah, I mean, round of applause, if that's the case.

[00:22:21] Fucking hell, I don't hit the tonsils anyway.

[00:22:22] We're getting into too much information at this point.

[00:22:25] I'm not going to be touching the teeth.

[00:22:29] But yeah, right, anyway.

[00:22:31] He's pulling them out with a fucker.

[00:22:33] No, it doesn't matter.

[00:22:34] I know, because we're taking the piss too much here.

[00:22:36] Right.

[00:22:36] So, removal of the teeth in four cases, lending vague support to the hypothesis.

[00:22:42] A list of suspects had supposedly been narrowed down from 20 men to three.

[00:22:48] When one of those committed suicide, gassing himself in his kitchen and leaving a cryptic

[00:22:53] note.

[00:22:53] I cannot go on.

[00:22:56] Fair enough.

[00:22:57] It might mean anything or nothing.

[00:22:59] But the murders ended with the nameless suspect's death.

[00:23:03] And so police seem satisfied, although the case remains officially unsolved.

[00:23:07] So basically, they're just saying this bloke.

[00:23:09] The bloke that's killed himself, that's him who's done it.

[00:23:12] Yeah.

[00:23:13] And I mean, a cryptic note.

[00:23:14] It's not.

[00:23:15] I suppose it is cryptic.

[00:23:17] But.

[00:23:19] I just say it straight to the point.

[00:23:20] He's just left the note saying, I can't go on and killed himself.

[00:23:23] Is that literally all the note said?

[00:23:24] I can't go on?

[00:23:25] Yeah.

[00:23:28] Yeah.

[00:23:28] I mean, like you say, yes.

[00:23:29] Not enough, is it?

[00:23:30] That could mean anything or it could mean nothing.

[00:23:33] Yeah, it's one of them.

[00:23:34] There's no one here enough.

[00:23:35] Surely they'd have found stuff in the apartment if he's taking them back and keeping them.

[00:23:39] It just, it just, it blows my mind.

[00:23:42] The lack.

[00:23:44] Yeah.

[00:23:45] Yeah.

[00:23:46] Yeah.

[00:23:47] Number of things.

[00:23:48] It blows my mind, the detective work in this case, because it's non-existent.

[00:23:52] Yeah, but this is what I'm saying.

[00:23:53] This is the stupid thing, though.

[00:23:55] So like I said, they've said there that the police seem satisfied, although the case remains

[00:24:00] officially unsolved.

[00:24:01] So they narrowed this list down from 20 to three people.

[00:24:05] And then just because one of them has now topped themselves.

[00:24:07] The other two has got three.

[00:24:09] I know.

[00:24:09] It's got three.

[00:24:10] They've just said, all right, fair enough then.

[00:24:11] Yeah.

[00:24:12] I mean, there's one more paragraph here.

[00:24:15] Like, have they even looked into the other two?

[00:24:17] Yeah.

[00:24:18] This is the thing.

[00:24:19] Exactly.

[00:24:20] Right.

[00:24:20] So who was the stripper?

[00:24:25] Right.

[00:24:26] So suspects range from a deceased price fighter, Freddie Mills, who committed suicide in 1965,

[00:24:32] to an unnamed ex-policeman, but DeRose favoured a private security guard on the Heron trading estate.

[00:24:40] So there's your three suspects.

[00:24:43] He's rounds included, including the paint shop, where at least some of the victims were apparently stashed after death.

[00:24:50] The only evidence of guilt is the cessation of similar crimes after the suspect's suicide, but numerous serial killers have retired once they achieved a certain body count.

[00:25:01] The best that we can say for Scotland Yard's solution in that is plausible but unconfirmed.

[00:25:06] Someone possibly still alive may have a macabre set of teeth as an ornament, possibly still in the London area.

[00:25:13] Do you know Jack the Stripper?

[00:25:17] Can't say I do.

[00:25:18] The only thing that should be stripped is those fucking detective's badges, mate.

[00:25:21] That's all I'm saying.

[00:25:23] But most of them are probably dead now, mate.

[00:25:26] Yeah, but that killer could still be alive.

[00:25:29] He'd be getting on.

[00:25:31] He'd be getting on, but...

[00:25:32] He'd be getting on, but it's...

[00:25:34] Plausible.

[00:25:35] Yeah, he could still be alive.

[00:25:36] Plausible.

[00:25:37] Yeah.

[00:25:38] I told you it was a weird one.

[00:25:41] Yeah.

[00:25:42] The name just blows my mind.

[00:25:45] I mean, you've got a distinctive thing that's a little different to anyone else there with the teeth and the paint.

[00:25:50] There's two potential names there, and you've gone with fucking Stripper.

[00:25:54] Well, you're not going to have Jack the Painter or Jack...

[00:25:56] But there's loads of people who strip...

[00:25:58] Like, that's...

[00:25:59] Everyone to the Green River Killer did it.

[00:26:01] Fucking Bundy did it on some of his victims.

[00:26:03] Yeah, they should have gone with The Dentist.

[00:26:07] Yeah, but that...

[00:26:08] Yeah, that's like a horror film there, mate, isn't it?

[00:26:11] The Dentist.

[00:26:12] The Dentist.

[00:26:15] Oh, yeah.

[00:26:17] Yeah.

[00:26:18] There's a reason that no one's heard of him, and it's simply because the name's really pissed me off, mate.

[00:26:23] I'm not going to sleep tonight because of that.

[00:26:25] I'm really not.

[00:26:25] Oh, yeah.

[00:26:26] Jack the Peter.

[00:26:27] Jack the Two Fairy.

[00:26:30] You know...

[00:26:30] Jack the Dentist.

[00:26:31] Whatever you like.

[00:26:35] So, just to recap.

[00:26:37] So, like I said, similar to Jack the Ripper.

[00:26:39] Obviously, he took place in London.

[00:26:41] Killed prostitutes.

[00:26:42] Seven victims in total, spanning from 1959 to 1965.

[00:26:49] So, victims' names were Hannah Telford, Irene Lockwood, Helen Mafflingley, Mary Fleming, Margaret McGowan, Bridget O'Hara, and Gwyneth Reese.

[00:27:02] So, yeah.

[00:27:02] Weird bloke.

[00:27:04] If it was a bloke, could have been a woman.

[00:27:06] Because I don't know.

[00:27:08] Well, I mean, the thought that his penis strangled women.

[00:27:12] Choked women.

[00:27:13] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:27:15] We probably should have spoke about that a little bit more.

[00:27:19] Yeah, it's one of them, innit?

[00:27:20] Exactly.

[00:27:21] Should be calling him fucking Seabiscuit.

[00:27:23] Fucking horse.

[00:27:25] Jack the horse.

[00:27:26] That's a bloody case.

[00:27:27] Jesus.

[00:27:27] Jack the horse.

[00:27:30] Jack Baerback.

[00:27:32] Exactly.

[00:27:34] Fucking hell, man.

[00:27:36] Oh, Jack the Bastard Strimmer.

[00:27:38] Exactly, mate.

[00:27:39] Exactly.

[00:27:42] It's a fucking annoyance you, doesn't it?

[00:27:44] How is that?

[00:27:45] It doesn't seem to annoy you.

[00:27:47] You just find it funny.

[00:27:47] It's really annoyed me, mate.

[00:27:49] I just think it's bizarre.

[00:27:52] Yeah, bizarre.

[00:27:53] I'll agree on that, but it's fucking annoyed me.

[00:27:56] It's really annoyed.

[00:27:57] Why Jack?

[00:27:59] Because I don't know.

[00:28:00] Why did they call Jack the Ripper Jack?

[00:28:02] I don't know, mate.

[00:28:04] Well, that's one of them, but they've had to go with Jack again, haven't they?

[00:28:07] They've decided, oh, we can't have Ripper.

[00:28:09] What rhymes with Ripper?

[00:28:10] Oh, ha, stripper.

[00:28:12] Some dickhead.

[00:28:13] You can guarantee it's one of them dodgy detectives.

[00:28:17] Oh, fucking annoyed me.

[00:28:20] Tim the Tooth Fairy.

[00:28:22] That's banging.

[00:28:23] Here, Pete the Painter.

[00:28:24] Come on.

[00:28:25] There's fucking loads.

[00:28:28] Jack the Stripper.

[00:28:32] Sorry, mate.

[00:28:33] I'm sorry.

[00:28:34] I'm getting too deep in there.

[00:28:36] It's fine.

[00:28:36] I like it.

[00:28:37] I'm wishing to know you.

[00:28:42] But yeah, that's it, mate.

[00:28:43] That's all I've got for you.

[00:28:45] Yeah, well, I'm actually boggled that I haven't heard of this.

[00:28:53] Again, it might be one of them.

[00:28:55] I might have been looking through, because I look through the true crime pages and stuff,

[00:28:58] especially ones in the UK, and I've probably seen the name and just brushed past it.

[00:29:04] That's probably what's happened.

[00:29:05] I'm looking on that.

[00:29:06] That's fucking stupid.

[00:29:08] Yeah, you would, though.

[00:29:10] I mean, how did you come across that?

[00:29:11] That's what I want to know.

[00:29:12] I was just looking through the website that I use.

[00:29:17] I've just seen.

[00:29:19] I've just seen the clarification there, mate, with Jack the Stripper.

[00:29:24] GodmergersUK.com.

[00:29:25] Oh, there we go.

[00:29:26] There we go, guys.

[00:29:27] All is well.

[00:29:28] He's fine.

[00:29:32] But yeah, that's it.

[00:29:33] That's it, mate.

[00:29:36] He's sat here waiting for more from me, because you can see me on the camera.

[00:29:40] You can see how fucking annoyed I am right now.

[00:29:42] I know.

[00:29:43] It's just funny.

[00:29:45] It's not as stupid.

[00:29:49] But like I say, that's literally all I've got for you, mate, on this one.

[00:29:52] So I think we'll just call it a day there before you get more annoyed.

[00:29:58] I can't wait to tell Darla about it.

[00:30:01] Jack the fucking stripper.

[00:30:02] She's going to think I'm taking the piss.

[00:30:04] I'm going to work on Wednesday and tell them.

[00:30:07] No one's going to believe me.

[00:30:09] Well, tell them I listen to this when it comes out.

[00:30:10] I will.

[00:30:12] I'll listen to our podcast on Jack the Stripper.

[00:30:14] Exactly, exactly.

[00:30:16] Right then, guys.

[00:30:16] We're going to leave it there before Billy has a meltdown.

[00:30:19] So thank you, as always, for listening.

[00:30:22] You can follow us on Instagram.

[00:30:24] That's let's underscore talk about pod.

[00:30:28] Obviously, that will be changing very soon, as we have announced that we are rebranding

[00:30:32] to the Spooky Shed podcast.

[00:30:34] So that will all be changing within the new year, whilst we do take a little break over Christmas

[00:30:39] and new year.

[00:30:40] Just to spend a bit of time with the families, isn't it, mate?

[00:30:43] That's it.

[00:30:43] That's it.

[00:30:44] Just stripping away that old name.

[00:30:50] Yeah.

[00:30:50] This could potentially, like I said, this could very easily potentially be your last one.

[00:30:54] Yes.

[00:30:55] Yeah.

[00:30:55] Let's talk about.

[00:30:56] Well, at least I've sunk my teeth into it, mate.

[00:30:59] Aye, exactly.

[00:31:03] Sorry, mate.

[00:31:04] I mean, I've done my best to paint you a picture of what happened.

[00:31:11] You're going forever, mate.

[00:31:13] Exactly.

[00:31:15] Right.

[00:31:15] Right.

[00:31:15] Well, we're going to go and have a little talk about possibly whether Billy's going to

[00:31:18] be on any more of these before we transfer over.

[00:31:22] So if not, Billy, do you want to?

[00:31:24] Yeah.

[00:31:25] Well, if it turns out that I end up being stuffed because of the way my life's going at

[00:31:29] the moment, then I'll see you with a new branding.

[00:31:33] It's been amazing on the road of let's talk about.

[00:31:38] You know, it's been our branding.

[00:31:39] It's been our name for a long time now.

[00:31:43] It's been the main thing.

[00:31:44] We've got a lot of merch and things that we've designed for it.

[00:31:47] So it's going to be a long process.

[00:31:49] But I'm looking for it.

[00:31:49] We will still keep, by the way.

[00:31:50] I'm just going to say that to you now.

[00:31:52] We will still keep that just to keep let's talk about live.

[00:31:56] Yeah, of course.

[00:31:57] Of course.

[00:31:57] It'll die out over time.

[00:31:58] So get them while you can.

[00:31:59] But who knows?

[00:32:01] We might have a Jack the Stripper t-shirt.

[00:32:03] Aye.

[00:32:05] I don't know because you never know if somehow this works.

[00:32:08] It might be worth money one day.

[00:32:10] Probably not.

[00:32:12] Aye.

[00:32:12] That's it.

[00:32:12] You never know.

[00:32:13] You never know.

[00:32:14] Exactly.

[00:32:15] It's like Pokemon cards.

[00:32:16] You buy one.

[00:32:16] You never know.

[00:32:17] The future might be worth a grand.

[00:32:18] Fucking old man went on the fucking fire, I think.

[00:32:22] But anyway, let's childhood trauma.

[00:32:26] We're going to leave it there because we're starting to waffle again.

[00:32:28] So do what I've said.

[00:32:31] We'll speak to you when.

[00:32:32] Billy, say your line.

[00:32:41] Have I ever messed up my line?

[00:32:44] Just say it.

[00:32:46] You strip me of my words.

[00:32:49] Take care, guys.

[00:32:52] Jesus Christ.

[00:32:54] You gotta leave that last bit in there.

[00:32:56] Go.

[00:32:56] Now, let's go.

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