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[00:00:00] Right then guys, hello and welcome back to Lets Talk About and we have some special guest
[00:00:11] with us today, I've always got myself and Liam and who else?
[00:00:15] Why the hell do you always do that?
[00:00:17] So today is our very first guest episode, we've got two very special guests with us.
[00:00:23] We are joined by Glenn and Omar from the podcast Caffeinated Conspiracy so Glenn Omar
[00:00:27] welcome to the podcast.
[00:00:29] It's good to be here, it's nice to be on a different show for a change.
[00:00:33] I'm still with him, I'm still going to see his face in this.
[00:00:37] I thought that maybe I might have gone away from Omar for a change but no we're still
[00:00:40] here together, we come as a pair.
[00:00:42] I was just taking on the honour of being the first guest so it feels so special.
[00:00:48] Well we thought it was quite fitting for you to be the first one on for us because obviously
[00:00:55] we've been speaking out for a while, obviously this may be the second podcast since we've
[00:00:59] been speaking to you.
[00:01:00] So obviously your podcast Caffeinated Conspiracy is do you want to tell people about that
[00:01:07] for a minute?
[00:01:08] Yes of course so we're Caffeinated Conspiracy is we look at all different types of conspiracy
[00:01:16] theories, we look at the strange, the weird, the wonderful and we like to do it with a bit
[00:01:20] of a laugh, have a bit of coffee.
[00:01:22] Omar with his very tiny cups, me with my normal size cups but overall.
[00:01:29] I'm a big person, the cup just looks small in my hands.
[00:01:33] But you say that to all the girls Omar.
[00:01:37] But yeah that's the kind of thing you can get from our show.
[00:01:41] We don't take things too seriously, we like to have a bit of a laugh.
[00:01:44] We like to have other people on the show as well and just talk everything from you guys
[00:01:49] being on when we talked, Loch Ness Monster and Whale Penis.
[00:01:54] We've got so much lined up for our third season that I can't wait to actually start.
[00:02:00] This is different, it's nice to be on another show, this is the first time we've actually
[00:02:03] been on another show so this is quite fun.
[00:02:06] This is setting us up ready for the future.
[00:02:09] Yeah well this should be fun then, because like I said this is our first time doing this.
[00:02:12] Exactly.
[00:02:14] First time for everything.
[00:02:15] Exactly and if it all goes wrong we'll blame it on Omar, that's what he's here for.
[00:02:20] That's the only reason we've arrived.
[00:02:22] I did chant Mothman a few times before I came on today so.
[00:02:31] Right then so let's get into it and so obviously you two guys have a love for conspiracy theories
[00:02:37] and I know you're both a big fan of aliens but today we're going to be talking about the
[00:02:41] Men in Black.
[00:02:42] Oh yes.
[00:02:43] And obviously when I told Billy about this, well he thought we'd just talk about the films
[00:02:47] didn't he?
[00:02:48] I did at first yeah, me and Liam always have a way of keeping things in the dark for
[00:02:52] one of us so completely in the dark with what it was about he obviously was Men in
[00:02:56] Black and I was like oh the films, they'll get to sing the song.
[00:02:59] First one was okay, second one not too good, third one, I could keep going
[00:03:03] with it.
[00:03:04] I didn't mind the third.
[00:03:07] Oh international one, we won't even mention that.
[00:03:10] No no.
[00:03:11] Right then so the Men in Black as we all know from the film, the Cartoon series and the
[00:03:17] original comic book are a secret government agents wearing black suits going around the
[00:03:22] world preventing people from telling their stories of UFOs and aliens.
[00:03:27] Well what if it wasn't just a piece of science fiction and then Men in Black were in fact
[00:03:31] a real organisation.
[00:03:33] Over the years many people have claimed to have been visited by Men in Black
[00:03:37] experiencing interrogation, harassment, threats of violence and even having their memories
[00:03:41] wiped.
[00:03:42] A little flashy device.
[00:03:44] Yeah, I love one of them.
[00:03:46] Exactly.
[00:03:47] No no they just flashed them, they literally just lifted things up and they're like you
[00:03:50] forgot everything.
[00:03:51] Yeah.
[00:03:52] I mean it would come in handy sometimes.
[00:03:55] Yeah you'd abuse it mate.
[00:03:57] If it's got a lifespan mate you know.
[00:04:02] The atrocities you could commit.
[00:04:05] Yeah.
[00:04:06] Just coming back five minutes later after owning one gun yeah I need some more batteries.
[00:04:10] Yeah, them it's the last like 30 years.
[00:04:12] Yeah well you know.
[00:04:14] What we're having a child?
[00:04:15] Blash no we're not.
[00:04:16] Flash.
[00:04:17] That's a bit, yeah.
[00:04:19] That's a bit of a jesus.
[00:04:21] Nice.
[00:04:22] Right then so I'm going to tell you now about the Murray Island incident.
[00:04:28] So first of all has anyone heard of the Murray Island incident?
[00:04:31] Yeah I've heard a little bit about this one.
[00:04:34] I've seen this one up not long ago so I know bits but I didn't go too much in Twitter yet.
[00:04:40] Fair enough.
[00:04:42] Right then so the incident refers to claims made by Fred Christmas and Harold Dahl of falling
[00:04:48] debris and threats by men in black following sites of unidentified flying objects in the
[00:04:55] sky.
[00:04:56] Can not talk today.
[00:04:57] Over Murray Island in Puget Sound.
[00:05:00] The pair would later claim the events had occurred on June 22nd 1947.
[00:05:05] On June 24th 1947 private pilot Kenneth Arnold claimed that he saw a string of nine shiny
[00:05:11] unidentified flying objects flying past Mount Rainer at speeds that Arnold estimated at
[00:05:19] a minimum of 1200 miles an hour.
[00:05:22] I mean would you even say that?
[00:05:24] She was doing it.
[00:05:26] Sort of a blink and you miss it.
[00:05:29] Yeah.
[00:05:31] So if you're trying to watch it you get whiplashed.
[00:05:34] Oh yeah.
[00:05:36] Where's the claim?
[00:05:41] Just some alien comes on the screen.
[00:05:43] Have you had an accident at work?
[00:05:46] Have you been abducted in the past three years?
[00:05:52] Have you experienced it?
[00:05:59] Right then Arnold's report garnered nationwide news coverage and his description of the objects
[00:06:07] also led to the press coining the terms flying saucer and flying disk as popular descriptions
[00:06:14] popular descriptive terms for UFOs.
[00:06:17] Ten days later Captain E.J. Smith his co-pilot and stewardess reported witnessing unidentified
[00:06:23] objects in the Pacific Northwest.
[00:06:26] Never say that word.
[00:06:28] On July 29th Arnold interviewed Harold Dahl who reported on June 21st 1947 in the afternoon
[00:06:35] about two o'clock.
[00:06:36] I was patrolling the east bay of Murray Island.
[00:06:39] I as captain was steering the patrol boat close to the shore of a bay in Murray Island.
[00:06:44] On board were two crewmen my 15 year old son and his dog.
[00:06:48] I looked up from the wheel on my boat I noticed six very large donut shaped aircraft.
[00:06:53] And that's a good way of describing it as a donut.
[00:06:56] Yeah.
[00:06:57] Or a Homer Simpson fever dream.
[00:06:59] Yeah.
[00:07:04] This just sounds like somebody was out on the boat far too long and just got a bit hungry
[00:07:08] and just started seeing donuts in the sky.
[00:07:11] We've all been there.
[00:07:12] We've all seen some of them running down the street and gone that's a chicken.
[00:07:15] No it's not a chicken.
[00:07:16] It looks like chicken.
[00:07:17] It's not.
[00:07:18] You can't eat it but those are donuts flying in the sky and I'm hungry.
[00:07:22] Cloddy with a chance to meet balls anyone.
[00:07:26] There you go.
[00:07:34] He's on a boat.
[00:07:35] Use a fishing rod.
[00:07:38] Is it the sky?
[00:07:39] Is it the sky?
[00:07:40] Come on.
[00:07:41] You can throw the line up.
[00:07:42] I wonder if it starts travelling.
[00:07:44] If they've got rods then surely they've got big nets as well just throw one on them.
[00:07:47] Harpoons.
[00:07:48] It depends if it's travelling at a thousand miles an hour I guess.
[00:07:51] Yeah that's a point to be fair.
[00:07:53] You know whiplash flinging that rod man.
[00:07:59] And so Dyle further claimed that one of the objects began spewing forth and what seemed
[00:08:05] like thousands of newspapers from somewhere on the inside of its centre.
[00:08:09] These newspapers which turned out to be a white type of very light weight metal
[00:08:15] floated to earth.
[00:08:17] That's fucking weird.
[00:08:19] Dyle reported that a substance was found in a confetti cannon.
[00:08:22] Yeah but of really weird light metal.
[00:08:24] Why does that sound like the metal from the Roswell crash?
[00:08:29] Ah yes.
[00:08:30] Because it was a very sturdy but thin paper like metal because they confused it for a kite.
[00:08:37] Now I see why the bro is on over.
[00:08:41] Good point.
[00:08:43] So he also reported that a substance resembling lava rocks fell onto the board
[00:08:48] breaking a workman's arm and killing the dog.
[00:08:51] For Christ's sake.
[00:08:52] Yes.
[00:08:54] Has anyone told Keanu?
[00:09:03] Dyle also claimed he was later approached by a man in a dark suit
[00:09:07] and told not to talk about the incident.
[00:09:09] Christman when interviewed reported having received recovered...
[00:09:13] Fuck sake I cannot speak very clearly.
[00:09:17] Reported having recovered debris from Murray Island and having witnessed an unusual craft.
[00:09:22] So basically he reported it.
[00:09:25] He got told not to say anything.
[00:09:27] He said something.
[00:09:29] Yeah.
[00:09:30] He almost got when he said something.
[00:09:33] That's what you do when you're told not to do something.
[00:09:36] Yeah true.
[00:09:38] You never do anything wrong.
[00:09:40] Exactly.
[00:09:42] See if I can say this one.
[00:09:44] He was in real words.
[00:09:48] So Arnold first recute...
[00:09:50] Two seconds in.
[00:09:56] Right so he first recruited Captain E.J. Smith of United Airlines
[00:10:00] who had reported witnessing a flying disc on July 4th.
[00:10:04] Christman showed white metal debris to Arnold and Smith
[00:10:08] who interpreted it as mundane and inconsistent with Dyle's description.
[00:10:13] Harold then decided to contact Lieutenant Frank Brown of Military Intelligence
[00:10:19] 4th Air Force Hamilton Field, California.
[00:10:22] Brown arrived at Arnold's hotel in Tacoma
[00:10:25] along with Captain William L. Davidson.
[00:10:28] See now this is what I said to you the other day.
[00:10:30] Why are there all these bloody captains and everything?
[00:10:32] They always have to have like fucking letters in the name somewhere.
[00:10:35] It's just like just leave it.
[00:10:37] Is that a simple one?
[00:10:39] Like say William L. Davidson.
[00:10:41] You've got to imagine like it's a common name.
[00:10:43] Like you're going to have a lot of Captain Davidson's there.
[00:10:46] This is Liam.
[00:10:48] Liam had the littlest thing in there.
[00:10:50] Smallest things in nine.
[00:10:55] So Davidson and Brown conducted interviews,
[00:10:58] collected fragments and prepared for the return flight out of McCord.
[00:11:03] In the early hours of August 1st,
[00:11:05] the two officers died when the B-25 Mitchell they were piloting
[00:11:10] crashed outside of Kelso, Washington on their way back to California.
[00:11:14] Oh weird.
[00:11:16] The FBI then proceeded to investigate this case
[00:11:19] and concluded that Christman and Dyle's sightings were a hoax.
[00:11:22] In their files they noted that Dyle stated that
[00:11:25] if questioned by the authorities
[00:11:27] he was going to say that it was a hoax
[00:11:29] because he did not want any further trouble over the matter.
[00:11:34] Right.
[00:11:35] Well they've said it's a hoax but then they found
[00:11:37] evidence of him saying that he was just going to say that it's a hoax
[00:11:40] because he didn't want any more attention from it
[00:11:42] after obviously he's been told not to say anything.
[00:11:44] Hmm.
[00:11:45] So...
[00:11:46] Seems too nicely wrapped up that.
[00:11:48] Yeah I know.
[00:11:50] It seems too sort of...
[00:11:52] I'm not confident about it and it just doesn't sit right with me
[00:11:55] that he now comes out and goes,
[00:11:57] I forget Carl, I'm going to tell him it's a hoax.
[00:11:59] Yeah so I've had enough attention now forget it.
[00:12:01] Yeah.
[00:12:02] Not great.
[00:12:04] That's like saying I stole the chocolate bar
[00:12:06] but I'm not going to tell them unless someone says
[00:12:08] did you steal this chocolate bar?
[00:12:10] Yes I did.
[00:12:15] I don't know.
[00:12:16] Some things just don't add up there to me.
[00:12:18] Sounds like implausible denial.
[00:12:22] You're not going to look good either way.
[00:12:24] Yeah.
[00:12:25] Either way it sounds dodgy, doesn't it?
[00:12:27] Yeah.
[00:12:29] Yeah just that statement discredits him though.
[00:12:33] So it's like you can't trust him to say an honest word after that.
[00:12:37] Yeah.
[00:12:39] Yeah he builds up all of this and then comes up with that.
[00:12:42] She's very convenient though so that's what's weird about it, isn't it?
[00:12:46] Yeah.
[00:12:48] Right then so the next little case I've got is about
[00:12:51] again another person with a fucking letter in the middle of his name.
[00:12:57] So I've got Albert Kierbender.
[00:12:59] Now Billy, I've already told you once don't laugh.
[00:13:01] I'll let me laugh mate we're alright.
[00:13:03] We're not children.
[00:13:05] The date I've all got here.
[00:13:07] So again is anyone...
[00:13:09] Oh there's already one, I can see him there.
[00:13:11] I can hear him there.
[00:13:13] I mean there are some names that you should just legally change.
[00:13:19] How did you get through life with them?
[00:13:23] With the bender, you can say it.
[00:13:28] Oh yeah that's how you show me.
[00:13:31] Mr. Bender.
[00:13:33] That's right then so has anyone heard of Albert Kierbender?
[00:13:36] No I wouldn't have laughed.
[00:13:39] I think I still would have laughed.
[00:13:43] But no I haven't.
[00:13:46] And it does feel like one of those names you put on like cahoots,
[00:13:49] you know just to annoy everyone.
[00:13:51] Who were Bender?
[00:13:53] Right then so Albert Bender was born on June 16th 1921 in Pennsylvania.
[00:13:59] He lived with his stepfather.
[00:14:01] Bender worked as a factory clerk.
[00:14:03] Sorry mate.
[00:14:05] You were a father of two children to be made.
[00:14:07] Like behave yourself.
[00:14:09] You just jinxed twins there.
[00:14:11] I only got the one at the minute.
[00:14:13] You're going to have another one so that's two.
[00:14:15] Oh okay I'm weird.
[00:14:17] Right so he was a factory clerk and he was drawn to the supernatural.
[00:14:20] He fashioned haunted house decorations and horror movie scenes on his walls.
[00:14:24] Jesus.
[00:14:26] You could say that's strange.
[00:14:28] Yeah it's true.
[00:14:30] So he was also the author of the 1962 non-fiction book
[00:14:34] Flying Saucers and the Free Men.
[00:14:36] He was a ufologist and he served in the United States
[00:14:39] and he air forces during World War II.
[00:14:41] He was obsessed with UFO phenomena and became a UFO researcher.
[00:14:45] Fair enough.
[00:14:47] You have a problem with them don't you?
[00:14:49] What's that?
[00:14:51] UFO researchers and ufologists do not like them do you?
[00:14:53] Well you just taste some cases.
[00:14:55] Like I remember the one that you told me previously.
[00:14:57] I can't remember which specific case it was but there was a light.
[00:15:01] There was a light mate and I told you what the light was.
[00:15:03] Rengelsham Forest.
[00:15:05] That was the one.
[00:15:07] The lighthouse which is one of the theories but why the hell would a lighthouse be pointing in the forest?
[00:15:11] But the KMU said it was didn't they?
[00:15:13] No they didn't.
[00:15:15] I was at a farm.
[00:15:17] I don't know though.
[00:15:19] So it would point into the forest at some point.
[00:15:21] If there's anything I can explain.
[00:15:23] It can be explained.
[00:15:25] I like...
[00:15:27] I can't.
[00:15:29] You don't want to go into it again Liam.
[00:15:31] Well I guess yeah I mean these two will already be on my side because you're weird.
[00:15:35] I don't believe in fucking aliens.
[00:15:37] I do believe in aliens.
[00:15:39] No I do that's incorrect.
[00:15:41] That's selfish to think we're the only life forms.
[00:15:43] That's not what you said before.
[00:15:45] Exactly that's what I say.
[00:15:47] It is ignorant to think that we can be the only intelligent species
[00:15:51] well we're not intelligent but you know we are the only sort of planet with a habit of life.
[00:15:57] Because...
[00:15:59] We're the most intelligent thing and that's scary.
[00:16:01] I said to you that I said some form of a fish.
[00:16:03] Oh shut up with the fish.
[00:16:05] Yeah to say that we're the intelligent ones yet as kids we all lick to no volt battery.
[00:16:11] That doesn't mean we're intelligent.
[00:16:13] We all did it.
[00:16:15] Wait you were meant to stop as an adult.
[00:16:19] You're still doing that all you want to hear remember?
[00:16:22] Oh I fancy a juror with Elton here.
[00:16:24] It's a pick me up isn't it?
[00:16:26] Spark to get you going.
[00:16:28] I just want the techies down.
[00:16:30] I'm gonna look at that.
[00:16:33] Stay away from them cuddlers.
[00:16:35] They're all phone chargers and stuff like that you know.
[00:16:37] That's what they meant in black is they just sort of give you a 9 volt battery
[00:16:41] that's the mind wiping thingy.
[00:16:43] There you go have this
[00:16:45] and that's why we lick it and that's why we've become so docile to the world
[00:16:49] because we all look 9 volt batteries as kids.
[00:16:51] There you go solve it.
[00:16:53] Floor riding 9 volt batteries.
[00:16:55] Yeah.
[00:16:59] Right then so back to Bender.
[00:17:01] That was really good.
[00:17:03] That was really good.
[00:17:05] Did you?
[00:17:07] Of course he did.
[00:17:09] He founded the international flying saucer bureau.
[00:17:13] The first major civilian UFO club in the world in 1952.
[00:17:17] Although the organisation was a successor first
[00:17:20] he suddenly shut it down in 1953.
[00:17:22] So Bender later told that in 1953
[00:17:25] he had been approached by three men in black.
[00:17:28] Three men visited him in his house
[00:17:31] and communicated with him telepathically.
[00:17:34] His name doesn't sit well with that story.
[00:17:36] Why?
[00:17:37] No reason. Carry on.
[00:17:38] Because he's called Bender and three men came round his house.
[00:17:40] Fucking hell Billy Gro.
[00:17:42] I mean his book was called Flying Saucer and the Three Men.
[00:17:45] Yeah it exists.
[00:17:47] Well at least they didn't say don't because then it would have been worse if there's a hole in the middle.
[00:17:51] You read the authors Bender.
[00:17:53] Right so he received a metal disc from them
[00:17:57] and instructions.
[00:18:00] He reported that he felt like he was being transported.
[00:18:03] These men apparently shared insights into the nature of UFOs.
[00:18:07] These men shared the origin of UFOs with Bender.
[00:18:10] Afterwards he became ill and didn't eat for three days.
[00:18:13] As a result after the visitation Bender felt encouraged to share
[00:18:18] what he had seen with other UFO investigators.
[00:18:21] Bender suffered frequent headaches after the three men visited him
[00:18:26] and his co-workers reported that he seemed scared.
[00:18:31] Now to me what's weird there is if he's been told not to say anything
[00:18:35] but then he's just gone out and said everything anyway
[00:18:37] and then he's out to his room.
[00:18:38] Yeah he's probably told everybody about it.
[00:18:40] Come on.
[00:18:41] Exactly.
[00:18:42] Come on we Bender.
[00:18:43] But also the main thing that sits wrong with me there is
[00:18:46] so these men, the men in black who have apparently come to visit him
[00:18:49] they've told him all about the nature of UFOs
[00:18:52] and the origins of UFOs.
[00:18:53] Why the hell would they do that?
[00:18:55] They don't want him to say anything. Why tell him more?
[00:18:57] Yeah why is there any, what was the reasoning behind it?
[00:19:00] We're going to give you all this information but you can't tell anyone.
[00:19:03] Yeah.
[00:19:04] Yeah, yeah.
[00:19:05] And the reason for you knowing all this information
[00:19:07] is completely irrelevant and it doesn't matter.
[00:19:09] There's no substance.
[00:19:11] That's like the chocolate bar all over again.
[00:19:13] He's a chocolate bar but you cannot eat the fucker.
[00:19:16] Yeah.
[00:19:19] Maybe that was the point.
[00:19:20] Yeah exactly.
[00:19:21] Well if they told him everything and were like
[00:19:23] don't tell anyone knowing he would tell anyone
[00:19:25] but they just fed him lies the whole way through.
[00:19:28] So he goes out and tells what they told him
[00:19:31] but they just told him bullshit.
[00:19:33] So he just now looks more insane.
[00:19:35] And they're just back in the office pissing themselves like that.
[00:19:43] I mean if you've got that one guy that keeps showing up
[00:19:45] like sending your letters and everything
[00:19:47] and you're like oh no no no stop asking
[00:19:49] we've already told you this isn't real right.
[00:19:52] Flying donuts don't exist.
[00:19:54] And he's like flying donuts do exist.
[00:19:56] And then you're like how do I shut him up?
[00:19:58] Just go tell him it's real but he can't tell anyone.
[00:20:03] Yeah.
[00:20:04] He would stop writing you wouldn't he?
[00:20:07] Hell yeah.
[00:20:10] Right so his alleged experiences were recorded in the
[00:20:13] they knew too much about flying saucers by Gary Barker
[00:20:17] Bender's IFSB associate.
[00:20:20] So Bender's experience formed the legend of the men in black.
[00:20:23] Bender did not speak of the event of nine for nine years.
[00:20:27] In 1962 Bender wrote flying saucers in the free man to tell his own story.
[00:20:31] In the book he recounts that the men in black were from another planet.
[00:20:35] Barker published his book but there is speculation that Bender's
[00:20:39] experience was only a dream.
[00:20:43] Bender went on to manage your motel in California.
[00:20:46] There's just some guy at the bottom of his bed going
[00:20:50] ooh it's all a dream.
[00:20:52] It's all a dream.
[00:20:54] He's just sort of like okay yeah sure.
[00:20:58] I mean I've had some vivid dreams in the past but
[00:21:01] Men in black coming and visiting you from another planet is the only thing you've got.
[00:21:06] Yeah that's just
[00:21:08] No where could we go shit what happened last night?
[00:21:12] I had this weird dream that Will Smith was at the bottom of a bed.
[00:21:15] Keep my the wise name out your mouth.
[00:21:23] Oh fuck you now.
[00:21:25] You're like a grummier.
[00:21:28] We're probably there again.
[00:21:33] No I was just something again something about that as well.
[00:21:36] That just doesn't sit right.
[00:21:39] He's like he's sat on this story for so long then decides to write a book.
[00:21:43] What does he think that the fret of the Men in black is not going to get him anymore if he was that scared originally.
[00:21:48] And he's just sort of thought you know what I've not seen him for a while.
[00:21:52] Now's a good time to write my book.
[00:21:54] Wait sorry how did he die?
[00:21:56] That's right a book.
[00:21:58] Yeah what happened to him after that yeah.
[00:22:00] Do we have the information as to what happened after he wrote the book?
[00:22:02] Did he just like mysteriously vanish as you know.
[00:22:04] You went on to manage your motel in California.
[00:22:06] But how did he die?
[00:22:08] No but hang on.
[00:22:10] No that going to the motel in California.
[00:22:13] That sounds like completely out of character for this guy.
[00:22:15] So maybe they did it in Men in black too.
[00:22:18] Where Kay ended up going to work at the post office.
[00:22:21] That's what they did.
[00:22:23] They sort of put him in the system and moved him off to sort of working in a motel.
[00:22:27] Never wrote another book again.
[00:22:29] There you go.
[00:22:31] Maybe.
[00:22:33] Maybe it's like the post office where people who manage motels add just aliens.
[00:22:37] That's what I'm talking about.
[00:22:39] Have you seen some of them that you go to?
[00:22:41] I thought I mean the three in figure were always just there like...
[00:22:45] Ball of the chinion.
[00:22:47] Fingers into one side.
[00:22:49] Ball of the chinion.
[00:22:51] I was trying to say you were in there.
[00:22:54] What did you say?
[00:22:56] Ball of the chinion.
[00:22:59] Bender would love to see him.
[00:23:03] I don't know.
[00:23:05] I don't know what to tell my mum.
[00:23:07] Oh, where is Lord?
[00:23:09] That's on again.
[00:23:13] You'd have no trouble team backing you would do.
[00:23:18] Talk a little too close for that.
[00:23:20] Would that be Clastus?
[00:23:22] No I know. I was going to say could he double dip?
[00:23:29] That would be some position.
[00:23:33] Full package.
[00:23:35] So he wasn't the first person to report visitations to UFO researchers from Men in Black.
[00:23:42] Bender reported that he had a second supernatural encounter.
[00:23:45] He was visited by freed shadowy figures.
[00:23:48] They did not touch the floor but hovered above it.
[00:23:51] They told him that their human appearance was an illusion
[00:23:54] and that whatever information he told people about their visitation would not be believed.
[00:23:59] They supposedly told him that they captured people from Earth
[00:24:02] and used their bodies to disguise themselves.
[00:24:05] So again it's just like Men in Black one, isn't it?
[00:24:07] With a big cockroach.
[00:24:09] Yeah.
[00:24:11] I've definitely seen where they got the ideas for the film now, you know.
[00:24:14] It's all there.
[00:24:16] It's true.
[00:24:18] It's all there.
[00:24:20] Lavors are something you'd like to tell me.
[00:24:22] Well I'm not a cockroach now.
[00:24:24] Ha ha ha ha ha.
[00:24:26] Ha ha ha ha ha.
[00:24:28] What about a whale's penis?
[00:24:30] I wish I had one.
[00:24:34] I mean it'd be impressive, where's that whale hiding below him?
[00:24:38] Ha ha ha ha ha.
[00:24:42] Man's Mulligan.
[00:24:44] Stigglebacks.
[00:24:46] Ha ha ha ha ha.
[00:24:48] I was just about to say here in the background like oooooh.
[00:24:52] The whale dies.
[00:24:54] The whale dies is something.
[00:24:56] Oh dear.
[00:24:58] I know this is completely off talking with topic but just dead quick.
[00:25:02] This is a very billy question.
[00:25:04] Where did they get the name sperm whale?
[00:25:06] I'm sorry that's running through my head but we're talking about whale bit.
[00:25:08] Ha ha ha ha ha.
[00:25:10] Fair point.
[00:25:12] You're always bothering me.
[00:25:14] I don't know.
[00:25:16] I mean how to come up with anything.
[00:25:18] We live on the seaside so you'll see a lot of...
[00:25:21] You don't get any sperm whales out here mate.
[00:25:23] We do.
[00:25:25] They had them washed up on the beach but it's a sperm whale's mate.
[00:25:29] Yeah if you say so.
[00:25:31] There's a couple of purposes or whatever they're called.
[00:25:33] Popeye I don't know.
[00:25:35] Right anyway so space review was the official magazine about Ufology news
[00:25:39] at the time in 1953.
[00:25:42] Late in the summer of 1953
[00:25:44] Bender made a series of discoveries which led him to believe
[00:25:48] that he had finally found the truth to the UFO cover-up.
[00:25:51] He had planned to reveal his findings in the October issue of space review
[00:25:55] but before the issue was published Bender was visited by you guessed it
[00:25:59] three men dressed in black.
[00:26:01] He had already read the unpublished report and confirmed his findings.
[00:26:04] The silences as he called them scared Bender to the point where he did not publish the report
[00:26:09] but left a warning we advise those engaged in source of work
[00:26:14] to please be very cautious.
[00:26:18] Bender then suspended publishing on his publication and dissolved the IFSB.
[00:26:26] So that's the third time someone's like people have been to visit him now
[00:26:29] and this is the one that's actually right now, Bob Iksby.
[00:26:32] I'm just going to leave it alone now.
[00:26:34] I wonder why he's getting all the visitations though.
[00:26:37] Yeah like why is it like serving?
[00:26:40] And I'll be very in mind this is a time where let's face it
[00:26:45] the internet isn't really around, you can't be used.
[00:26:48] And how do they find this guy's address and how do they all know where he lives?
[00:26:54] I mean I know he's going to be in a phone box somewhere
[00:26:57] but if he's not really sort of mentioned who he is or what's going on
[00:27:00] he's just told a few of his friends.
[00:27:02] I reckon he's just dressing up in black and coming around his house
[00:27:05] and be like right mate come on
[00:27:07] you're making an embarrassment at the entire town right.
[00:27:10] I mean Missy won't even speak to me anymore because I'm friends with you.
[00:27:13] I'm going to dress up in these suits and tell you to shut the fuck up.
[00:27:17] Please just stop you weird freak.
[00:27:21] To be fair, it's not my hard doing that.
[00:27:25] Yeah, yeah it is.
[00:27:28] Definitely.
[00:27:29] You go after the story you've just told obviously I'm going to take an hour
[00:27:32] of the last episode that won't mean you'll just record it all on.
[00:27:35] Do you want to tell people what you did as a child Billy?
[00:27:38] So I'm just going to go through this again am I?
[00:27:40] Because you need to help me with that because you're a sick bastard.
[00:27:43] This is a safe space okay.
[00:27:46] How many is the most?
[00:27:48] It won't feel safe in a minute.
[00:27:52] Not for Liam anyway.
[00:27:54] I don't know what he did. I'm going to go through you again about 12.
[00:27:56] I was 11 or 12 aye.
[00:27:59] I was with two of my friends.
[00:28:02] We were at my house we were just playing about as you do.
[00:28:06] And I had this metal pole I don't know who it was part of my bed frame.
[00:28:10] I can't remember exactly why I had a metal pole but I did.
[00:28:14] I had a Jason mask.
[00:28:16] Jason Voorhees.
[00:28:18] Took my top off bear in mind it's winter time.
[00:28:22] I had a pair of cargo shorts and I put like a
[00:28:26] cargo jacket on as well.
[00:28:28] A camouflage.
[00:28:30] Decided to chase them.
[00:28:34] Well walk them down should I say.
[00:28:37] Across the entire village I lived in.
[00:28:40] Until one of my mates got into his grandmothers house.
[00:28:44] I stood outside of the house pulling hand.
[00:28:47] Had no intentions of doing anything I just wanted to scare them.
[00:28:50] It was one hour.
[00:28:54] I stood one hour too long you should have done you.
[00:28:57] You've been weird bastard.
[00:28:59] What 12 year olds doing now?
[00:29:01] I don't know why I did that.
[00:29:04] We were still friends afterwards.
[00:29:06] It's a very peculiar situation.
[00:29:08] Yeah we were doing another last episode we were doing like embarrassed moments
[00:29:12] and that's pretty embarrassing.
[00:29:14] That's not embarrassing that's weird.
[00:29:16] I never took the mask off which was they knew who I was
[00:29:22] otherwise I'd have been handcuffed and gone.
[00:29:26] But no one in masks all my face that day.
[00:29:29] Jesus Christ.
[00:29:31] Don't ask guys don't ask her.
[00:29:33] You're just a strange bloke mate.
[00:29:35] No no that was long ago.
[00:29:37] I was 11 years old.
[00:29:39] No comment.
[00:29:41] That's all I've got.
[00:29:43] Do you know what happened?
[00:29:45] Men in black.
[00:29:47] This is why no one in the village asks him afterwards.
[00:29:49] They all forgot.
[00:29:53] I'm going to go write a book.
[00:29:58] Jesus.
[00:30:00] I'm going to go to the school at Bender.
[00:30:02] So again Billy don't laugh well everyone don't laugh.
[00:30:04] So what do we think Lunatic?
[00:30:06] Or he was actually threatened by men in black.
[00:30:08] Lunatic.
[00:30:10] Straight in there.
[00:30:12] To be fair with this guy yeah I think he's a loon.
[00:30:14] More than anything.
[00:30:16] Don't get me wrong do I believe that men in black are real.
[00:30:20] In a way I believe there's some sort of government organisation
[00:30:24] that would be able to do that.
[00:30:26] Look at the whole thing with Project Blue Book that they've had in the past.
[00:30:29] There's been so many different projects that
[00:30:31] to say that there's not an organisation keeping tabs on.
[00:30:35] Yeah 100.
[00:30:37] And sightings I well enjoy believe that.
[00:30:39] Do they come and threaten you?
[00:30:41] No.
[00:30:43] I don't believe that in one bit.
[00:30:45] I think this guy's heard a story somewhere and he just ran with it.
[00:30:47] That's my opinion anyway.
[00:30:49] It's the part where he says the men in black
[00:30:52] came from another planet.
[00:30:54] That's what completely threw me off.
[00:30:56] Yeah.
[00:30:58] I'm thinking a low key organisation you know
[00:31:00] private whatever only the presidential side of things
[00:31:04] wouldn't know what's going on with him.
[00:31:06] That kind of thing yeah.
[00:31:08] I'll buy into that straight away.
[00:31:10] This guy he's had one too many benders should I say.
[00:31:13] Maybe that was the problem.
[00:31:15] He just levit.
[00:31:17] Yeah just constantly.
[00:31:19] What do you reckon Omar is lunatic?
[00:31:21] Or has he got a point?
[00:31:23] He's a lunatic that started a fantastic meme
[00:31:26] by the looks of it.
[00:31:28] Like now you just blame everything on the men in black.
[00:31:33] Run over your neighbour's dog men in black did it.
[00:31:36] Yeah.
[00:31:44] I'm gonna start yelping at that one.
[00:31:46] Yelping at that one I'll have the silences.
[00:31:49] Yeah.
[00:31:53] Well we sort of half answered
[00:31:56] our next question there.
[00:31:58] Well used to did.
[00:32:00] Do we believe that there is an organisation out there
[00:32:03] that threatens, harasses and prevents people from their encounters
[00:32:06] with aliens and UFOs?
[00:32:08] I do.
[00:32:10] I don't think there is bad I think within reason
[00:32:13] like I say I don't think it is to what
[00:32:15] obviously described in these stories.
[00:32:17] Yeah.
[00:32:19] There's definitely something out there that you know monitors.
[00:32:21] Yeah of course.
[00:32:23] I think naturally anyway
[00:32:25] everybody should know that of course
[00:32:27] there is going to be the worry of something ever happening.
[00:32:29] There is going to be an organisation who specialise in
[00:32:32] you know what might happen to her
[00:32:34] what might arrive kind of thing.
[00:32:37] They'll have something in placement for it.
[00:32:39] Well you'd hope though wouldn't you?
[00:32:43] You mean the same way we were prepared.
[00:32:45] Slow dates at the moment.
[00:32:47] Yeah but this is similar to how we were prepared for Covid.
[00:32:50] Yeah.
[00:32:52] They had a plan.
[00:32:54] They planned ahead.
[00:32:56] They knew exactly what was coming.
[00:32:58] Did it work out?
[00:33:00] They just did it secure.
[00:33:04] It was the execution of it all.
[00:33:06] Well so I mean they started off like Men in Black.
[00:33:08] It wasn't, it was the Men in Black.
[00:33:13] Were they not just undertakers?
[00:33:15] They were all just undertakers right.
[00:33:19] The dog had passed.
[00:33:21] The dog had died.
[00:33:23] The undertaker showed up being like
[00:33:25] how do you want to bury your dog?
[00:33:27] And he's like oh no the Men in Black.
[00:33:31] It's pretty plausible.
[00:33:33] Yeah I feel like this story would have bells ringing and everything.
[00:33:37] Yeah.
[00:33:39] Right then so last question is
[00:33:41] if you could be
[00:33:43] and we're going off to obviously the films depiction of the Men in Black
[00:33:46] and you want to be an MIB agent
[00:33:48] and if so what letter would you choose as your name?
[00:33:50] You don't get to choose it's just your first name isn't it?
[00:33:56] I mean I like being known as O
[00:33:59] so I'd be fine with that.
[00:34:01] That's GM Fondo isn't it?
[00:34:04] You'd have to be Agent O then wouldn't you yeah?
[00:34:06] Yeah.
[00:34:08] I'm fine with Agent G you know it sounds gangster
[00:34:10] I'm fine with that.
[00:34:12] I am.
[00:34:14] I could and if my career in Men in Black doesn't work
[00:34:18] I mean I can't rap but I could be a rapper after that.
[00:34:21] Agent G you've got it.
[00:34:24] The name's there.
[00:34:26] It's all one of them.
[00:34:29] I'd have Agent Y.
[00:34:32] Y.
[00:34:33] Raporten.
[00:34:37] Jesus.
[00:34:38] I don't know just Agent Y it's different.
[00:34:40] Agent Y.
[00:34:41] Yes.
[00:34:43] That sounds like a question.
[00:34:45] It genuinely just...
[00:34:47] Agent Y!
[00:34:51] Yes?
[00:34:56] Well I've put down here I'd like to be Agent X
[00:34:59] just because I think that sounds a bit mysterious as well
[00:35:02] and it's very you.
[00:35:04] Well yeah either X or D
[00:35:06] and then if I run into that free-titted prostitute from Total Recall
[00:35:09] and I have to kill her I can say that you got the D.
[00:35:14] Well the exit is clear.
[00:35:16] Absolutely gone.
[00:35:22] Given cops he's not a dad yet either.
[00:35:25] He hasn't met the woman from Total Recall yet.
[00:35:31] Yeah there's still time.
[00:35:36] Oh but you know...
[00:35:38] I've written a lot more about talking about payments on this
[00:35:40] than I thought we would in the first will.
[00:35:44] What's genuinely confusing me on this show is
[00:35:47] is the MIB are based on like first letter names
[00:35:50] but there's more than 26 agents.
[00:35:53] That's what I mean.
[00:35:54] So what are the others called?
[00:35:56] Seven, nine, ten.
[00:35:58] G1, G2, G3, G4
[00:36:01] We just had a number once at the end of it you know.
[00:36:03] So there's a G6.
[00:36:05] Maybe they go like alphabet and sort of thing.
[00:36:07] Alphabet.
[00:36:08] Yeah.
[00:36:09] I'd have a hotel.
[00:36:10] Go find Bender.
[00:36:13] What the hell are you talking about?
[00:36:15] He was going through the phonetic alphabet, not the Greek alphabet.
[00:36:21] I've just realised.
[00:36:26] Christ.
[00:36:33] Well that's all I've got.
[00:36:36] Yeah I love this speech.
[00:36:37] That's all I've got.
[00:36:39] Anyone else got any comments on the men in black men?
[00:36:42] Other than the thought that I do believe there is an organisation
[00:36:46] very similar to what they do out there.
[00:36:48] Fair enough.
[00:36:49] There probably is a multiple government organisations looking out for
[00:36:52] what everyone assumes the men in black do.
[00:36:54] Not one, I say multiple
[00:36:56] because no country is going to like pool resources.
[00:36:58] Look at them right now.
[00:37:00] No country gets along with anyone else.
[00:37:02] Yeah it does very true.
[00:37:04] Which on that point while you were talking
[00:37:06] like because I didn't do research because I was working before this
[00:37:09] I googled the International Flying Salsa Bureau.
[00:37:12] Did you know there was a British International Flying Salsa Bureau
[00:37:17] that was founded in 1943
[00:37:22] by some dude called, what was it?
[00:37:25] Some plucket, something like that.
[00:37:27] And it only got disbanded in 2001.
[00:37:30] Christ.
[00:37:31] So the British were better at it.
[00:37:35] You can't be quiet though.
[00:37:37] Men in black.
[00:37:42] The Ligget Namjoo retells me.
[00:37:46] Shhh, you'll tell them all our secrets.
[00:37:51] Well maybe that's why the secret service
[00:37:53] are called the secret service because let's be honest
[00:37:55] the worst kept secret in the world.
[00:37:57] So maybe I'll take you for our people.
[00:37:59] Yeah true, very true.
[00:38:01] I mean maybe the partners might like that.
[00:38:03] Could be?
[00:38:04] Maybe, maybe that's what the International Space Station
[00:38:07] really is because I know you said before
[00:38:09] we can't get on very well.
[00:38:11] Yeah there are American and Russian astronauts
[00:38:14] up there at the moment in the International Space Station
[00:38:16] working together.
[00:38:18] Maybe that the International Space Station
[00:38:20] is a men in black base
[00:38:22] and that's just where they actually do work together
[00:38:24] and they send messages down to us to let us know.
[00:38:26] Right we've seen it before, it's over this place
[00:38:29] sending the men and they've gone in
[00:38:31] and that's what they do.
[00:38:33] That explains why we've got the International Space Station
[00:38:35] I mean I know they're planning on crashing it into the sea
[00:38:37] at some point soon but I mean still
[00:38:39] I reckon that's what that's really for
[00:38:41] because I don't actually know what this thing is used for
[00:38:43] I just know they just circle around the Earth every now and then
[00:38:46] Yeah, yeah.
[00:38:47] So I mean that gives me the answers
[00:38:49] that helps me understand that there's an answer to that
[00:38:51] and I can live with that.
[00:38:53] That's just my personal thing.
[00:38:55] I can live with knowing that that's what it is.
[00:38:57] That's where they've been in black art.
[00:38:59] That's the International Space Station
[00:39:01] and that's their base.
[00:39:03] There is some kind of that because like the space state
[00:39:05] you think, they mount the telescopes
[00:39:07] and the technology that's in them now
[00:39:09] you can see everything you need to
[00:39:11] what do you need the space station there for?
[00:39:13] What's it actually for? Exactly.
[00:39:15] They sent someone up there not long ago didn't they?
[00:39:17] I think it was only like a week or so ago.
[00:39:19] Yeah, yeah.
[00:39:21] He went up and I know obviously
[00:39:23] they're planning on retiring it
[00:39:25] for a few years or some time or something like that.
[00:39:27] I might be wrong, it could be a bit longer.
[00:39:29] I don't even know.
[00:39:31] Yeah, they're talking about like a plan crashing to the sea
[00:39:33] and obviously they can use it as a new coral reef
[00:39:35] sort of like
[00:39:37] let it sort of dissolve
[00:39:39] and whatnot and bring life to it
[00:39:41] but I'm not sure if they're planning on
[00:39:43] putting something new up there
[00:39:45] I've not heard but they have just sort of
[00:39:47] sent like a new telescope up didn't they
[00:39:49] and I mean
[00:39:51] there's a lot going on now
[00:39:53] and it's just getting me a bit suspicious about
[00:39:55] what's happening.
[00:39:57] Something's coming, they're planning something
[00:39:59] I just don't know what.
[00:40:01] Yeah, there's definitely something that works
[00:40:03] because there's been a lot more money recently
[00:40:05] gone into like NASA and things like that
[00:40:09] it would lead you to believe
[00:40:11] that whether they've seen
[00:40:13] something, whether something's happened
[00:40:15] but I have noticed there's a lot more
[00:40:17] going on outside of Earth
[00:40:19] Yeah.
[00:40:21] There's a lot of money into it now like
[00:40:23] hell off a lot of money.
[00:40:25] I think that's more to do with like
[00:40:27] rats scurrying off a ship
[00:40:29] Earth is sinking
[00:40:31] let's put money into outer space
[00:40:33] Yeah, yeah
[00:40:35] Yeah, it makes sense too
[00:40:37] Well I've just come up with two theories there for the International Space Station
[00:40:39] because as much as I'd like
[00:40:41] that to be the headquarters for Men in Black
[00:40:43] I'd like it even more
[00:40:45] if it was actually a motel for aliens
[00:40:47] Well, would better be worth it
[00:40:49] We're running the place
[00:40:53] I was just calling him a lunatic
[00:40:55] He's top dog there
[00:40:59] So it's called Motel ET
[00:41:05] But then I also don't like the idea
[00:41:07] of it being a MIB headquarters
[00:41:09] because if they're still sending Russians up there
[00:41:11] I just hope it's at the block of Armageddon
[00:41:13] Yeah
[00:41:17] He's the best character in the film
[00:41:21] I'm really a Russian hero
[00:41:25] The terrible accent
[00:41:27] isn't nearly as bad as Billy's Scottish one
[00:41:29] That's good, I don't know what you...
[00:41:31] Oh, I'm going scousin' it doesn't matter
[00:41:33] I get on with it
[00:41:37] This is why we know best to stay clear from accents and arse
[00:41:39] It's just easier
[00:41:41] No, back, it's just invite problems
[00:41:45] Yes, exactly
[00:41:47] Especially with our terrifying tales
[00:41:49] things that we've started
[00:41:51] I don't know if she's have listened to any of them yet
[00:41:53] Yeah, but my accent
[00:41:55] unintentionally has come out very Jamaican
[00:41:57] Let's do it live
[00:41:59] A live representation
[00:42:01] Wait, was it on voodoo by any chance?
[00:42:05] I mean, Jamaican makes sense for voodoo
[00:42:07] We almost made that a thing
[00:42:09] We did
[00:42:11] No, because that's definitely racist
[00:42:15] Liam came up with a picture
[00:42:17] idea of what he wanted this character to look like
[00:42:19] Jamaican origins in him
[00:42:21] and going off the ego
[00:42:23] I just wanted him with one of them
[00:42:25] hats with dreadlocks and everything
[00:42:27] An AI generator wasn't having it
[00:42:29] I know where I can get away with that
[00:42:33] Wait, even at the end of the film
[00:42:35] Wait, even an AI generator
[00:42:37] told you you were racist
[00:42:39] Well basically, yeah
[00:42:41] because it wouldn't give us a decent picture
[00:42:43] so
[00:42:45] Yeah, it was
[00:42:47] it was horrific what it came out with
[00:42:49] Just AI is keeping you in check
[00:42:53] Speaking of the AI and racism
[00:42:55] do you remember Craig that we used to work with
[00:42:57] Where is this going?
[00:42:59] Yes
[00:43:01] So do you guys remember that old fat thing
[00:43:03] that you had where it turned you into a
[00:43:05] make-you-look-106
[00:43:07] Oh yeah
[00:43:09] So, what we used to work with
[00:43:11] Craig, I mean he was only
[00:43:13] 2 years older than me, so he'll be about 34 now
[00:43:15] But now he probably looks about 60
[00:43:17] When I first met him
[00:43:19] he was 27, I got told
[00:43:21] guess how old he was and I said 45
[00:43:25] I'll be honest, I thought he was like 10 years older than you
[00:43:27] I didn't know his actual age until you've just told me
[00:43:29] I was blown my mind
[00:43:31] So obviously we took a picture of him
[00:43:33] and tried to make him look younger and all it did was turn him black
[00:43:35] I still have this un-sported
[00:43:37] This man cannot look younger
[00:43:39] I still have the pictures on my phone
[00:43:41] Anyone still listening at this point who's got a
[00:43:43] miss out on this but
[00:43:47] Just put the music on that
[00:43:49] I don't know if you can see
[00:43:51] So that's him when we took the picture
[00:43:53] off him and then that was what happened
[00:43:55] when we
[00:43:57] Was he reverse MJ'd?
[00:44:01] He was like
[00:44:05] Wow
[00:44:09] Oh, I don't matter if you black or white
[00:44:11] I told you, I'm a racist
[00:44:13] I mean it's a thing
[00:44:15] Tell me someone got that
[00:44:17] I got it
[00:44:19] Thank you
[00:44:23] Right then, I'll nap now
[00:44:25] I think we should probably end this
[00:44:27] Sounds good
[00:44:29] Sounds like the safest bet
[00:44:35] Right then, so thank you everyone
[00:44:37] who's listened, thank you Glen and Omar again
[00:44:39] for joining us on this one
[00:44:41] It's been a pleasure guys
[00:44:43] Yeah, it's been different
[00:44:45] It's nice
[00:44:47] It's nice having all of us on
[00:44:49] and actually getting to know us all properly now
[00:44:51] So that's been nice
[00:44:53] Can we confirm that Billy is real?
[00:44:55] He is
[00:44:57] Can we confirm that Billy is real?
[00:44:59] I don't know
[00:45:01] I didn't see him
[00:45:03] He's just a voicing guy
[00:45:05] Billy's a real
[00:45:07] Billy's real
[00:45:09] What does he have?
[00:45:11] Literally about five or six people have actually questioned
[00:45:13] if you were real
[00:45:15] What do they all think it's just you putting on a different voice?
[00:45:17] I think so
[00:45:19] Just like you're a really good ventriloquist
[00:45:21] You're like
[00:45:23] See, he's ventriloquist
[00:45:25] So, a special episode of
[00:45:27] caffeinated conspiracies
[00:45:29] On the conspiracy
[00:45:31] Of Billy's existence
[00:45:33] You can cast an episode on our show
[00:45:37] Later in the year
[00:45:39] Oh, this episode
[00:45:41] Yeah
[00:45:43] Well, that's it
[00:45:45] Right then, so that's it for us for this week
[00:45:47] So obviously follow all the socials
[00:45:49] We find everything on there
[00:45:51] Patreon, Page, MerchStars and that
[00:45:53] So Billy, say a line before we finish this
[00:45:55] Another quick thing as well
[00:45:57] Go check out caffeinated conspiracies
[00:45:59] if you haven't already guys
[00:46:01] Brilliant podcast, great guys
[00:46:03] You've heard it yourself anyway
[00:46:05] So take care guys
[00:46:07] I always have to say that

