Let's Talk About... The Scumbag Albert Fish! Ep.16

[00:00:00] Hello everyone, Liam here first, just a quick listener discretion advisory for this episode And if you've heard of this case you'll know exactly why if you haven't it is extremely brutal and

[00:00:13] some fucking horrific stuff so just a little pre-worn in fires what you say if you listen we hope you enjoy it like say it's brutal so just beware of that. Cheers and enjoy the episode

[00:00:35] Great then guys, hello and welcome back to lets talk about you got your obvious hosts which is Liam and Billy and today we're sort of a bit of a surprise episode for Liam We'll get into that in a moment but first of all how's yourself?

[00:00:50] Dying yeah Liam's a little bit hungover today, aren't you miss? Ok, I don't know if you've fucked Yeah Liam's a little hungover today It's a lot of issues going on at work as a vibe We're both on the verge of just walking I think

[00:01:09] I just want to go to sleep together Lets talk this story brings it That's why I make sound a bit weird as well Yeah lets talk these stories get his energy going a little bit Right then Liam, so have you ever heard of Albert Hamlington Fish?

[00:01:26] Albert Fish, have you? Oh yeah, have to have us. I didn't think you would have you know that was the one I was talking to you about Oh yeah that's who I am Two I'm gonna be based in today's episode on fair enough

[00:01:38] How was she know about what and then? Um... Well they're just doing like the men bits The men bits, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah So we're gonna take a bit of a deeper dive into I know about the letter as well Oh yeah, yeah

[00:01:51] We'll get into that guys If you haven't heard the story it is sick and if you were discretion is advised Definitely on this one Yeah, this guy's a six-sick man And that's what I'm gonna try Yeah So Albert Hamleton Fish, otherwise known as the Graham Man

[00:02:07] Or the Weirwolf of Wist area Is that pronounced correctly? Yeah, I'm gonna say yes Wist area, I think it is Belia so And even possibly the Brooklyn Vampire So he boasted that he had children in every state Putting the figure around a hundred All-lord is not clear

[00:02:28] Whether he was talking about molestation or kind of belies the action Lestil as to whether it was true or not He was suspected of at least five killings in his lifetime Fish confessed the three murders that police were able to trace to a non-hormeside

[00:02:44] And confessed to stabbing at least two of the people Did you mean homicide there? Homicide, what does he say? I said homo-sad Homicide I want to do you I'm a little myself guys I'm not an over but I've had this

[00:02:57] In the UK we've got this thing going about got a hundred day of cough That's a minute Professionals have a very well played Don't remate And that's me or wanna get gone Thank you too Anyway So homicide And confessed to stabbing at least two other people

[00:03:15] He was put on trial for the kidnaf and murder of Greas Baud And was convicted and executed via the electric chair Well deserved I ordered it in where the sponge met Should have just dig off the side of them Yeah, should have started with our eye Right so

[00:03:32] Look at my review This is early life So it was born as Hamilton fish in Washington, DC To Randallfish in 1790 who lived in 1795 to 1875 He said he had been named after Hamilton fish a distant relative His father was 43 years older than his mother Fish was Yeah Madness

[00:03:55] I was 43 years Yeah fish was the youngest child And he had three living siblings Walter and he an Edwin fish He wanted to be called Albert after a dead sibling And to escape and leems fish And to escape the nickname Hammond eggs that he was

[00:04:20] And you can enjoy that But Hammond eggs I got forgot Yeah, I'm an eggs Quite a nickname, man Fucking hell Drinking to get Hammond eggs more I don't know She got egged Yeah, she had a lot of his eggs met And kept well away from him

[00:04:44] And he goes like Does, I carry on I can't say So he's that to escape the nickname Hammond eggs that he was given to An orphanage in which he spent many of his early years Many members of his family had met Lilness And one suffered from religious menia

[00:05:05] His father was a riverboard captain But by 1870 he was a fertiliser manufacturer The elder fish died of a heart attack At the sixth straight station of the Pennsylvania Railroad In 1875 in Washington, D.C. Fish is more of a put him into an orphanage

[00:05:24] He was frequently whipped and beaten there And eventually discovered that he enjoyed physical pain The beatings would often give him erections For which the other often's teased him Bring this in there I'm not going to go into it It is weird, man He's just, it's just

[00:05:44] It gets weird His childhood is Fucking weird The fuck Fuck me Anyway By 1879 His mother got a government job and was able to look after him However His various experiences before this had affected him He started a homosexual relationship in 1882 At the age of 12 With a telegraph boy

[00:06:07] The youth also introduced fish to such parrots Sorry, practices as drinking your iron and Cupra figure Fish began visit in public Do you think the bag rills was drinking pisses when he was 12 Probably You'd imagine so

[00:06:24] Do we have to start the one we start to start to think the bag rills was going to get as many mentions as he does No, yeah, I know yeah That's going to be the third one by now on it I'm the rest

[00:06:34] Fish began visiting public baths where he could watch boys on dress And spent a great portion of his weekends on these visits Now the weirdest thing is obviously a litter in the story We know about the letter and who that was directed up Right

[00:06:47] This seems to be like he's going on a Jeffrey Downman kind of rude Don't know Anyway By 1890 Fish had arrived in New York City And he said he became a male prostitute He also said he began repping young boys

[00:07:02] A crime he kept committing even after his mother arranged a marriage In 1898 He was married to a woman nine years his junior They had six children Albert Anna Gertrud Eugene John and Henry Fish He was arrested for Embuzzlement And was sentenced to incarceration in Sing Sing In 1903

[00:07:26] He regularly had sex with men while in prison In 1898 He worked as a house painter It's quite a jamblin New York City, male prostitute, rearing boys and stuff Gertrud jail, come out and appear now So he worked as a house painter And he said he continued molesting children

[00:07:46] Mostly boys under six But me imagine You just sat there Telling you this Well that's what I made noise Like you She's a terrorist fucking head of I don't know I'm a woman of you They're a player No, not a player They're a player It should be said

[00:08:04] Yeah No that's what I'm saying The amount of self-restriant You've got to have Anyway He laid a recounted An incident in which a male lover Took him to a waxworks museum He developed a more interesting Consteration During a relationship We were mentally retarded man

[00:08:23] Fish attempted to castrate him And after Chuck Ty and him up The man became frightened and fled Fish then began intensifying his visits to brothels Where he could be whipped and beaten more often I can't have no idea how much of this Just

[00:08:40] He's literally just the definition of a fucking wrong and niscone Yeah Yep In January 1917 His wife left him for John Straub A handyman who boarded with the fish family Follow him in this rejection Fish began to hear voices For example He once wrapped himself up in a carpet

[00:09:01] Explain and that he was following the instructions of John the up A...postle John the apostle No idea Yes he wrapped himself up in a carpet It's just...we're really weird fucking story The legend wogin' on me Just seeing him carry up the carpet Fucking mental Absolutely mental

[00:09:25] Ah So earlier attacks and attempted abductions Fish committed what may have been his first attack on a child named Thomas Bedden in Will Here we go In Wilmington Delaware in 1910 Afterward he stabbed a mentally retarded boy around 1919 in Georgetown, Washington, DC

[00:09:48] Consistently many of his intended victims would even be mentally retarded or African-American Because he believed these would not be missed Evil It's horrible On July 11th to 1924 Fish found eight-year-old Beatrice Keel Playin' a lawn on her parents' stit in Island Farm

[00:10:11] He offered her money to come and help him look for a rhubarb in the neighbouring fields She was about to leave the farm when her mother chased fish away Fish left but returned later to the Keels

[00:10:24] Sorry, returned later to the Keels barn where he tried to sleep for the night before being discovered by Handskeel and tall to leave There's like, yeah, you really science this is how it started obviously I mean it clearly started long ago Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

[00:10:40] But you see it intensified Even at a victim type So to me that's planned and it's thought through Yeah, obviously So all this whole long time we run The guys mentally insane in every sense of the word But people are evil You still think it through

[00:10:57] It's not like it's one of those Keels's words just in the moment kind of thing Oh yeah, yeah It knows what he's doing Yeah, yeah So this is about Grace Bud One of us victims On May 25th, 1928

[00:11:12] Edward Bud and put a classified ad in the Yongsun-de-A edition of the New York world that read Yongwest 15th Street On May 28th, 1928 Fish then 58 years old Visited the Bud family in Manhattan New York City under the pretense of higher in Edward He introduced himself as Frank Howard

[00:11:33] A farmer from farming A farmer from farmingdale New York When he arrived, fish met Bud's younger sister Ten year old Grace Fish promised to hire Bud and said he would send him Send for him in a few days On his second visit he agreed to hire Bud

[00:11:51] Then convince the parents, Delayer, Flangagan and Albert Bud To let Grace accompany him to a birthday party That evening at his sister's hall Albert Senior That's just weird Go on Like around him, I'll go get turns up Yes, given you want to get a job

[00:12:11] But then you just let the fucking little and roughly That part always baffled Yeah, that's just mental I mean I know it's okay, you know different times and stuff That's still Yeah, that part always really weird And put them bizarre I mean they just think like

[00:12:23] What the hell is wrong with you? It's hard to understand that thought process in Edward Bud Yeah, I tried to well on my head to wrap around the thought That it's 1928 Do they see as much in the news and all of this Does it happen frequently there?

[00:12:36] It's still there, still You know it's an old guy you don't even know Exactly, that's what I mean Yeah, that means different times I guess that's what they always say Albert Senior was a part of the Equitable Life Assurance Society

[00:12:52] Grace had a sister Beatrice and two of her brothers Albert Bud the second and George Bud Fish left with Grace that day But never came back The police arrested Charles Edward Paul on September 5th 1930 as a suspect for the kidnapping He was a 66 year old apartment house Super-intended

[00:13:14] And he was accused by his estranged wife He spent 108 days in jail between his arrest And trial on December 22nd 1930 So a random month served a sentence Somebody didn't do it Yeah, sir It certainly happens You might think the first few things Yeah, it does

[00:13:33] I mean you ever see those documentary These are stuff on YouTube The videos of where somebody spent like 33 years in jail Yeah, it's like the block who just Well, it's stuff for the prisons Roughly all the row Yes, yeah Yeah

[00:13:47] It's good watch out guys if you haven't seen that Yeah, well watch out A powerful one way If you think like fucking live you anywhere You're a summer You think the fucking cell And then they've just got a fucking bag for life from little Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah

[00:13:59] It'll do you Fucking hell You're going on here So the letter Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, and hang on Let me interrupt you then before we go into this fucking letter Because we have to do a little shout out for someone So just a never podcast

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[00:14:57] Right then Billy tell us about this fucking letter then because this is Yeah, sick. This is disgusting and to think that Had it not been for this letter, you'd probably got to move it Yeah, so this is the correct timeline as well guys

[00:15:09] This guy was arrested blah blah blah Ninety-30 and then this letter came up with a blue I don't know what The seven years later in November 1934 And anonymous letter was sent to the girls parents Which led the police to an old but fish

[00:15:24] The letter is quoted here with all of fish's misbellons and grammatical errors So you're going to enjoy reading it me read in thisly because they've grammatical grammatical Thank you well, I agree. I start now then

[00:15:37] You're going to enjoy me reading this me because this is exactly how it was wrote Yep view a discussion is advised Oh, I'm missing Hi Dear Mrs. Bud in 1894 a friend of mine shipped a deck

[00:15:55] So it begins a friend of mine shipped as a deck hand on the steamer to Korma Captain John Davis they sailed from San Francisco for Hong Kong China on our Ivan there He and two of us went ashore and got drunk

[00:16:14] When they returned the boat was gone at that time There were there was a famine in China Meet of any kind was from one to three dollars per pound

[00:16:26] So great was the suffering among the very poor that all children under 12 were sold for food in order to keep others from starving A boy or girl under 14 was not safe in the street You could go in any shop and ask for steak chops are stew meat What?

[00:16:45] Part of the naked body of a boy or girl would be brought out and just what you wanted to cut from it A boy or girl's behind which is the sweetest part of the body and sold as veil cutlet But the highest price John said they're so long

[00:17:03] So long he acquired a test for human flesh on his return to New York He stole two boys One seven and one eleven Top them two is home Strip them naked Tie them in a closet Then burned everything they had on

[00:17:21] Several times every day and night he spanked them Tarts of them to make their meat good and tender It's just fucking It's fucking sick when I'm asleep He's not worth it No, there's not that He didn't hear anything

[00:17:42] First he killed the eleven year old boy because he had the fatrest ass and of course The most meat on it Every part of his body was cooked in eating except the head, bones and guts He was rusted in the oven all of his ass

[00:17:59] Boyled, broiled, fried and stewed The little boy was next Went the same way At that time I was living at 409 E 100 street Near right side He told me so often how good human flesh was I made up my mind to test it On Sunday June 3rd

[00:18:24] 1928 I called on you at 406 W15 Street For what you pot cheese strawberries We had lunch Grace sat in my lap and kissed me I made up my mind to eat earth On the pretense of taking her to a party You said yes, she could go

[00:18:44] I took her to an empty house in Westchester I had already picked out When we got there I told her to remain outside She picked wild flowers I went upstairs and stripped all my clothes off I knew if I did not I knew if I did not

[00:19:01] I would get her blood on them When I was ready I went to the window and called her Then I hid in the closet until she was in the room When she saw me on the air She would be like, fuck no She began to...

[00:19:16] She began to cry and try to run down the stairs I grabbed her and she said she would tell her mama First I stripped her naked How she did kick, bite and scratch I chalked her to death Then cut her in small pieces

[00:19:34] So I could take my meat to my rooms Cookenie, it how sweet and tender her little ass was roasted In the oven, fucking, I don't know about the rest of this It took me nine days to eat her entire body I did not... Fuck her, though I could

[00:19:52] Of her I wished She died a virgin Mrs. Bord Was illiterate And could not read the letter Oh, there we go So that's the letter done with that Fuck, mama No, that's just fucking I killed her in that Because he's literally like...

[00:20:09] You're not going to hear many worse things And I don't think there is anything worse than that But you know, parents myself, man Just trying to... Like put your head down Yeah, but that's what I'm saying It's like there, especially if you think Mama was illiterate

[00:20:23] So like that letter comes with the dot And someone she has to listen to someone Tell her that Yeah Yeah Like that's just... Fuck I don't understand How that... He was the last person that was seen with her Hmm And yeah, he wasn't a suspect Fucking crazy

[00:20:42] And they're baffling Exactly Baffling beyond belief Anyway Mrs. Bord was illiterate And could not read the letter herself So she had her son read it instead I think that's just makes even worse Yeah, no Fish led her admitted to his attorney That he did indeed Rip Gress

[00:21:03] Fish was a compulsive liar However, so this may be untrue He had told the police When asked That it never even entered his head To rip the girl Listen, it didn't do that No, it can't even say that Can't you ask that? Wait, it's like...

[00:21:19] Because you don't know Exactly And you don't know Fucking ridiculous man F***s sick One minute... I don't know Let's move past that Anyway, let's get to the capture So The letter was delivered in an envelope That had a small hexagonal And hexagonal emblem With the letters

[00:21:37] And YPCBair Stunning for New York private They all, that's a word and ather Childfewers Yeah, we'll go with it Childfewers, benevolent association Christman It's too much for me A Janet Erick the company told police He had taken some of the stationary horn

[00:21:58] But left it in his room in house At 252nd Street When he moved out The landlady of the room in house Said that fish had checked out from that room A few days earlier She said that fish is sunset in money

[00:22:12] And he asked her to hold his next check for him William F. King The lead investigator Where it outside the room until fish returned He agreed to go to the headquarters as for questioning But at the street, they're longed And they took him to police headquarters

[00:22:30] Not sure what's going on there Fish made no attempt to deny that the grass bud murder Said that he had meant to go to the house To kill Edward Bud, grass is brother So this is Billy Gaffney

[00:22:43] I'm going to assume this is in the one of his victims Okay Okay I'll just want you to think of the worst You don't know what's going on next A child named Billy Gaffney Was playing in the hallway Outside of his family's apartment in Brooklyn

[00:22:57] With his friend Billy Beaton On February 11th 1927 Both of the boys disappeared But the friend was found on the roof of the apartment house When asked what happened to Gaffney Beaton said the bookie man took him Initially Peter Cudzinauski Was a suspect in the murder of Billy Gaffney

[00:23:20] Then, Joseph Meahan A more to man on a Brooklyn trolley Saw the picture of fish in the newspaper And identified him as the old man that he saw February 11th 1927 Who was trying to quiet a little boy sitting with him on the trolley

[00:23:39] The boy wasn't wearing a jacket And was crying for his mother And was dragged by the man on and off the trolley Police matched the description of the child to Billy Gaffney Gaffney's body was never recovered Billy's mother visited fish in sing sing

[00:23:55] To try and get some more details of her son's death Fish confessed the following I brought him to the riker of a new dumps There is a house that stands alone Not far from where I took him I took the boy there Strip him naked

[00:24:12] And tied his hands and feet And gagged him with a piece of dirt you rag I picked out from out of the dump Then I burned his clothes Through his shoes in the dump Then I walked back to the trolley To 59th street at 2am

[00:24:28] And walked from there home Next year about 2pm I took tools a good heavy cat or 9th year Tails Homemade short handle Cook Cook one of my bolts and half Slip these halves in six strips About eight inches long

[00:24:48] I whipped his bear behind to the blood ran from his legs I cut off his ears Nose slipped his mouth from ear to ear Gauze out his eyes He was dead then I stood up for fuck me man

[00:25:03] I stuck the knife in his belly and held my mouth To his body and drank his blood I picked up for all potato socks And covered a pile of stones Then I cut him up I had a grip with me I put his nose ears

[00:25:20] And a few slices of his belly in the grip Then I cut him through the middle of his body Just below the belly button Then through his legs about 2 inches below his behind I put this in my grip with a lot of pepper

[00:25:34] I cut off the head, feet, arms, hands and the legs below the knee This I put in socks Wade with stones Tied the ends and through the model Through them into the pools of slimy water You will see all along the road going to Knoth Beach

[00:25:52] I came home with my mate I had the front of his body I liked the best His monkey and pee weas And a nice little fact behind to roast in the oven and eat I made a stew out of his ears Nose peat Out of his ears

[00:26:10] Heirs nose, peats his office face and belly I put onions, carrots, turnips, celery, salt and pepper It was good Then I split the cheeks of his behind open Cut off his monkey and pee weas and washed them first I put strips of bacon on his ears

[00:26:29] I guess in that means is Yeah Yeah I bit Yeah We wanted to, but I wanted to let the fence on this one Because it's not that Yeah That's not that close No I put strips of bacon on each cheek of his behind

[00:26:45] And put them in the oven Then I picked four onions and when the meat had roasted About quarter of an hour I poured about a pint of water over it for gravy And put the put in the onions At frequent intervals

[00:27:02] I busted his behind with a wooden spoon So, best to thank you mate We'll keep your a chef His behind with a wooden spoon So the meat would be nice and juicy In about two hours It was nice and brown Cooked through I never ate any roast turkey

[00:27:21] That tasted half as good as his sweet A car man Basically, further estimate parts in that toilet But yeah Yeah I don't need to explain all the details No, I think I think we'll leave it at that one On there for that one, yes Yeah

[00:27:36] Well, let's try an execution How we do it here? Go through that But no matter the victim stuff No, no, no, no To be fair, that was the last one I already feel fucked enough as it is Or I'll listen it now That's awful in it

[00:27:49] I may have truly never thought Like reading I like this would be There's a big of an issue for me as it has been So I do apologize guys He's getting a little worked up Yeah I mean this has been chafeless

[00:28:02] I mean usually I mean I knew what they wanted to I just thought we'd laugh until Yes, I know This has been unlike anything We've done really We'll make it the last one Yeah, I go on and tell us how we got fried Right

[00:28:15] The trial of Albert Fish for the Do you know what? I just want to see how we died After being a secret chair, yes, Edwin Yeah, yeah I'll have to be in that mode So I'm just going to skip the sentence Alright

[00:28:28] So after being sentenced fish confess to the murder Of eight year old Francis, X McDonald Killed on Steed in Ireland Francis, Captain Island on the French partner I'm up for a meeting, no we died Basically this one had been assaulted and strangled Right

[00:28:45] Right, that's all we need to know Fish arrived in March of 1935 This will be in the prison for execution And was executed on January 16th, 1936 We're going to throw a party on January 16th next year Liam Happy to In the electric chair at Sing Sing

[00:29:02] He entered the chamber at 11 or 6 p.m. And was pronounced dead three minutes later He was buried in the Sing Sing prison cemetery He was recorded to have said that Electricution would be the supreme thrill of my life Just before the switch was flipped, he stated

[00:29:19] I don't even know why I am here Legend has it that his execution took longer Due to the numerous needles and so on Into his privates which disrupted the flow of electricity Jesus Good Oh yeah, I think in the way

[00:29:36] He got so many needles that I don't know But that's what he told me about I know they used to stick for him Pins and it was growing and she did that No, that's he did it to himself For some sort of weird pleasure Ruffing

[00:29:48] Yeah, learn to take I don't even know Okay now There's loads more to it like man But I don't want to know Any more about the bastard Oh we know his bastard is sick He's long, happily dead Yeah, good Yeah, absolutely We should have a house

[00:30:05] Oh sorry, I will be over a sudden one there for you guys Well that's the sick man that is an Albert fish Desi fucking out bastard Yeah Horrible, horrible human being Just pure, like that's like, he's like definition of evil for me Like Yeah, he is the devil

[00:30:25] He probably The devil on earth Yeah Horrible man Yeah, it's really good there then man I don't know what to, I'm doing this So yeah, I think that's true Yeah Right then we'll leave it there guys So thank you for listening

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