Tracy Beaker Series 3

[00:00:00] Winner of Best Social at the Golden Lobes Thots TV! Just a little content warning for this episode It is about a children's home We will be discussing the current state of children's homes in the UK Which yeah, content warning there because it's bad stuff happening to kids Yeah, a lot of that in this episode If that is going to be tricky for you

[00:00:26] Then thank you for listening and we will see you next time I learned that from the TV show Sex Education Really? I learned that in probably about year eight Yeah, see this I didn't really know that

[00:00:59] Okay, here we go then Get that foil off It's much easier way to get into the foil than what I've just done Yes It's just like the arches this with the sound effects Here we go She's untwisting the wire I'm so afraid of those Oh, not me You'll be okay, don't worry Twist and pull I have to get Laura to do it Yeah

[00:01:30] Congratulations everyone Yeah Congratulations to you Elsie What are we toasting today? We have been nominated for the International Women's Podcast Awards Yay! In two weeks after we won The Golden Lobe The Golden Lobe This is the first time we've recorded since then It is Oh my god So this is Yeah, this is the first time we've recorded since we won the award I think Fuck We're an award winning podcast Yay! Yes! Which you know because of our cute little pre-roll Whatever Thanks guys, it is all you

[00:01:59] And thanks International Women's Podcast Awards We've been nominated in the Comedy Gold Comedy Gold category And thank you to the Golden Lobes for letting us win Well of course, yes I'm glad you liked it Cheers Nice They are real glass I know it didn't sound like that But we are drinking from glasses Yeah, I broke one of them the other day And they're new But we still have glasses We're real grown-ups now How are we doing? Good, thank you

[00:02:28] I had quite a good day to be fair Yeah? Yeah Good It's always nice to be nominated Especially when you didn't think you were going to be Yeah, I got the email And it was two minutes old And I was like scrolling to see who the nominees were See if we were amongst them And the work phone started ringing I picked it up And I was gonna do my like, you know Script My script Like, Elsie speaking? How can I help you? Whatever Before I got to the end Meg was like, hello!

[00:02:58] I was like, who's speaking? It's Meg! We were nominated! So she read that email quickly I was made I was It was on my lunch break And Laura was like Mid What are they called? Bench press She was mid bench press I ran in and I grabbed the bar And I was like, put it down We've been nominated And you were like Just help me lower it

[00:03:28] I'll have that Yoink Because Laura can lift some heavy weights Just so you know I can't lift that much yet You can lift a lot more than some My upper body's not that strong yet But I can kick the shit out of you Like, very strong legs She's like a horse Where are we in the world? Lorraine's off-season shows have been cancelled Yes So ITV is now only paying her to do it when she's there

[00:03:58] It's incredible How, like, the power that one Twitter account can have Yeah I mean, if you're not familiar There is a Twitter account called Where is Lorraine That, oh well It's not It doesn't exist anymore But it documented How many shows she'd done of her own show And there was like a pie chart For like all the different presenters And like percentages for how much she'd showed up People loved it They stopped the account Because they started to feel a bit cruel

[00:04:27] Which I think is like very fair of them Like they said We had our fun But she doesn't like it We're gonna stop now Which is, you know That's nice of them I think It was a really funny account And it has actually changed The way that ITV operates Which I think is utterly hilarious That is the best legacy an account can have Right There was a webcomic I used to read That went on hiatus And like It went on a really long hiatus And it got to the point Where it was like The comments on the last episode Were 300 days

[00:04:56] And the writer came out And was like Please stop It makes me feel so shit That I've been away for so long Please stop doing it So yeah There's reasons not to Yeah I mean I think it's mean To do that to a webcomic I think It's not quite so bad To do it to Lorraine Yeah no That's so fair It wasn't from a place of like Oh we demand you come back It was more of a like Are they okay And then you know So that's where we are in the world Right now Before you jump down my throat

[00:05:25] I'm really sorry that I'm late It's okay I totally understand You understand? You mean you're not going to spend the afternoon Trying to hurt my feelings? It's been time Since we've done Tracy Beaker We did series one In our series two We did series two In our series three Series four Didn't have any Tracy Beaker But the people want it And we're going to give it you Give it you Yeah

[00:05:53] My brother has always said to me His favourite episodes Are our Tracy Beaker episodes And I thought to myself Really? Like They're fine But Then I watched You know Series three of Tracy Beaker In two days And I was like This is fantastic Why was I so down about it? Like when we mentioned Could you also I think Cried five times? I cried a lot more than that But I don't know The idea of doing A series

[00:06:23] Like a whole drama Scares me a bit We've done other whole dramas And not as spread out Yeah Young Dracula was a Fucking Saga That was a I mean Great show I'm great I'm really happy that we did it But it was a lot of work And then the idea of doing Another Tracy Beaker I was just like Oh It just takes so long And then I watched series three So quickly And I was like No this is totally fine And I can't wait to do Series four

[00:06:52] Yeah Series three was I think the most enjoyable So far So far Yeah I really like Tracy's hair In this one Yes On BBC iPlayer It always like Takes you to season one Every time you click on it Despite where you were And I was like Oh that's her Old hair I really like her hair In this season Which is The shallowest of comments But you know It's gorgeous I think she looks really cool In this series Says me It's Agent Nasu You any good? Good I only represent the best And he's the best Of the best

[00:07:22] So don't go wasting my time I wanted to go back And listen to our other episodes But I didn't find the time What's your favourite podcast? Mine So we might You know End up repeating A bunch of things Apologies If that's the case But it's been a while You've probably forgotten So I saw a post It was about fanfiction But it did remind me of else Oh dear What's this gonna be? It was just like All the desperation Of trying to find This one particular Thing that you wanted to read And it's like You don't know True desperation Until you're on

[00:07:52] Fanfiction.net And someone was like No You don't know True desperation Until you're looking At a blank page My friend And that was you In this podcast Yeah I've never written Fanfiction I've never written Fanfiction Fair Meg Have I? I thought you had Might have I don't really remember Fair I have It's under my bed Yeah Oh yeah yeah Laura Laura handwrites it Laura has a notebook

[00:08:21] With like A proper ink pen Yeah yeah Which is such Like dedication To aesthetic Because she's Left-handed It's not easy To write in ink No I Like people watch me Write There's two different Things happen here People watch me write And either go Oh my god You're left-handed And see how I've Contorted my hand To write across the page Without it smudging Or they go Oh my gosh Your handwriting What are you doing that for? Who does that? Yeah

[00:08:51] Well whenever Laura and I Are in the kitchen Using knives Because we're both Left-handed Meg has to leave Because she thinks That I don't leave Well no but you find it Very uncomfortable To watch us do it Because it looks Wrong and unsafe To you You stand there Distressed Because you're not Used to seeing it Yeah my grandma's Left-handed And I've watched her So so many times Left-handedly Using a knife To like peel Carrots and potatoes And I'm like How are you not Cutting your own Thumb off? Same way you do

[00:09:20] So precarious No but the thing is It's part of the peeling Like if I were to do that I would cut my own thumb off She's just very skilled Yeah My grandma Left-handed also Really really really likes To trump on about Left-handed knives And then shows me A normal knife A regular knife A regular little knife I'm like Cool Yes left-handed I play the flute And someone once asked me Is that a left-handed flute? I was like No it's a fucking flute They're all the same

[00:09:50] You just Play it that way You just get on with it Yeah That's just left-handed It's just guitars That have to be special Bass And I don't even think They do have to be special Can you not just No Oh Because then you're Not really Sorry And what I did there Was flip it the other way around In mime form No No Because then the strings Are upside down So they're going I see Down You're going low to high Yeah From the top

[00:10:20] And then also I think You wouldn't be reading Tab right Because Tab Is like where your fingers go Right So Right Or you could just Play it Normally Even if you're left-handed I mean Yeah When I played the guitar I did it On a right-handed one Because it's I don't know It's not that difficult We just deal We just deal with it That's how What life is As a left-handed person I mean you don't have To pick up an ink pen No

[00:10:50] That's my choice But you do You love it Anyway Why are we talking About fan fiction Because The Blank page Desperation thing And that's you Starting this podcast No one's done it I want to hear about it Well fuck it I've got to do it myself That's why we're here That's why we're here Still here Still here Tracy Beaker series Three What did we think I loved it I thought it was really I watched it twice Oh I Think there were A total of Four episodes

[00:11:19] Out of Twenty Six That didn't make me cry They were supposed to be My foster family It was going really well Then I had to drop A Tracy Beaker bomb On them Didn't I I messaged my mum And I said to her You know Because she Watched First time she watched it She was a grown up And I said like How were you not crying When we just had it on When we were eating our tea Like How were you not crying

[00:11:49] And she said I probably did But I think Series one and two I thought Yeah this is great I'm enjoying this They made me cry also Series three I was like This is nearly wasted On children Because It's so Incredibly emotional In a way that I Barely Like Just didn't grasp When I was You know Nine Well if she's too Tired Come on your own And take me out

[00:12:19] Well then pick me up And we can spend The day at home Why not? As for Production type things I mean it ran from 2002 to 2005 This is series three Just work it out I don't know What year this came out The I think Only new thing Is That there's a new Cast member Shelley Yeah There's several new Cast members There are Yeah Because there's new Kids as well Okay So who's carried on Um

[00:12:49] Elaine Yes Tracy Elaine Cam Um Justine Yes Justine Louise Blol and Bouncer Yep Were carried on From Series two Hayley's new Layla's new Marco's new Jackie's new Michael's new Jackie's new Yeah there's a lot Of new people Oh my god What's the name Of the Dolly Dolly's remained Dolly's remained What's the name Of the God

[00:13:19] The Boy that's friends With Jackie Crash Crash Crash That's a lot Of Actually that's a lot Of new kids That is They didn't feel new Gosh They blend right in Yeah they felt like They've been living There for a while Because What happened So what happened At the end of Series two Is that No sorry Tracy was brought Back to the Dumping ground At the beginning Of Series two Um And she's still There She's still Living there But she's like Very good friends With Cam And Cam Takes her out On weekends And that's Where they're at

[00:13:50] Um Fostering Light Fostering Light Yeah Um Louise Got fostered Near the end Of Series two The blonde girl Yeah Um She pops in and out Every Yeah She's there for like Two episodes No she's in quite a few But yeah she pops in and out Because to be fair It's her old home They can't really keep her out And Justin's like her Just Justin Justine Is like her best friend So Yeah still Yeah that's a lot of new kids I hadn't It felt really Bedded in

[00:14:20] But maybe it's just because I know the show So well Yeah Crash Jackie comes in Maybe episode two Or something Pop will live in somewhere You hate Mmm it's horrible You can always come back here You can have my room anytime I'm not staying long in this dump Michael Who we'll talk about And then three little kids Um Marco Layla Hayley Hello Hello Hello Good morning Sergeant Marco Any crimes to report

[00:14:48] Yeah so the first Big change that happens Is that Um Jenny's gone R.I.P. Jenny And She didn't die Well we don't actually They don't say that I feel like If she'd have died We'd have heard about it Yeah They don't talk about it Um Shelley She's in the background Is the new She's fertilising with flowers She's in that little shed they have Yeah Shelley's new Shelley arrives Episode one A whole new care worker What do we think of Shelley

[00:15:17] I like Shelley I remember not liking her But They think she's like Kind of stern and boring I don't think she is I think that she's Got a very difficult Handover on her hands And she's doing her best I think she Her first introduction She comes in And I think she's trying To Early on Prove her authority And puts her foot down About some stuff And then she learns Quite quickly

[00:15:46] That's not how it super works In the dumping ground And then she She very quickly Like within that episode Learns Sort of the way The dumping ground works And how she can fit into it I think she does it Really quickly Introductions later Clean up now please You the older boy You can help the younger ones I'm a care worker Yeah When I Yes When I was Well She does it in 15 minutes So Yeah That's how it works It could have been A multi-episode Her clashing with the entire House

[00:16:16] But it's not And I did actually Quite like that Yeah Because the kids Their storylines Are more important Than how they feel About you know The care workers But Yeah I thought That she was fairly Just standard And boring As a kid But She's She's actually Really funny Like She Comes in And She sort of Characterised as this witch But Something As they grow to like her Something that Happens

[00:16:46] That they keep Is that she'll be in a room And she'll get this sense And she'll look up and say I'm needed downstairs Yeah Like she just knows The house so well She just pops up Like she'll just be behind Someone suddenly When she's needed Like she's on Heelys Like she's floating around It's impressive Yeah And she has her moments Where she like Relates to the kids Like She's quite chill She is She talks about things That she did when she was their age Yeah Shows up to Tracy a few times My dad was the same way Your dad?

[00:17:14] He had Alzheimer's disease The same as Jackie's grandpa I looked after him For a long time till There's like There's one episode I think it's Maybe the sports day episode Where She's just On like a lounge Or like Go for it Have fun I'm having a drink Laura just mimed a cigarette Yeah She's not smoking Then she put her hand down Because I don't think A cigarette is seen In the entirety of Five seasons of Tracy Beaker Which is weird Because it all aired Before smoking inside The band Oh yeah

[00:17:44] Yeah So I couldn't cope anymore Couldn't cope? You? There's no need to be sarcastic No I'm not So she's played by Nicola Reynolds Who's mostly in comedy stuff So she was in Human Traffic And she was in The Sex Lives of the Potato Men Some people would say That's not comedy But Wait isn't that film It technically is One of the worst films ever? Correct Yeah With Johnny Vegas?

[00:18:14] I believe he's in it Yeah Loads of people are in it Loads of people are in it And it's like She's one of the top billed people I believe But yeah And she's in Human Traffic as well So she's like A sort of 2000s comedy Kind of Actress So yeah She's great She plays the role Super well I like her a lot I like her Relationship with Elaine Oh yeah Me too Because I like that They just kind of Back each other up I think that it's nice for

[00:18:42] I like that she's got Someone there That she doesn't Clash with as much I mean she's a bit Eye-rolly with her But they get on Whereas Jenny Actively disliked her Yeah I know Yeah Shelly never does that She never Says anything bad About her United Front Yeah Yeah She's very professional I like the way That she plays The professionalism Of her Because then When she's in the office There's none of that But like You can see A distinct difference And I like that

[00:19:12] About that character Like you can see The kind of Office-ness And job-ness Of her Like as an adult I can just see The paperwork That she's thinking about You know She does that standard I've got a new job So I have to make changes So it looks like I'm doing something Yeah That's like the whole First episode Like she's like You guys are changing Bedrooms This is happening This is happening This is happening Tracy Maybe it'd be good If you left And nobody's happy With it

[00:19:42] And instead of like Fighting her corner On it She just goes Okay Well If that's not the right thing That's not the right thing Yeah No that's what I'm saying And I'm sorry Like pretty much She's She's actually Very respectful Towards the children In my opinion So Adaptive Yeah He's just a kid That's the problem He's one of the kids He can't help being a kid He's supposed to be A care worker I thought you were Talking about Crash So the next new person

[00:20:11] That joins is Jackie So maybe we should do Jackie's storyline now Yeah She comes very early In the series as well So I was watching it And Jackie arrived And I was like Jesus Like maybe I watched The later seasons more But I remember Jackie Being so much older And she's a baby Yeah she's very young I couldn't believe it She's tiny Yes she is Also her younger sister The actress's younger sister Played the female American cousin

[00:20:40] In Young Dracula Really? Yeah Isn't that so weird? She also had like A walk-on role In Tracy Beaker Returns Or something as well Her sister did I mean They're both Both actresses That's pretty cool I mean I should probably Mention their names Yeah So she's called Abby Rakic Platt Or Rakic It's Eastern European I'm not quite sure How to Yeah And her sister's Called Madeline I think you were right

[00:21:09] Like Rakic Platt Yeah Yeah So her story is that She lived with her grandad Her grandad won medals Running for the Commonwealth Me legs were like rubber Well he gets in front Then keels straight over So I crawl across the line On me knees You should have heard That crowd roar Wow Mr Hopper He is now in her home Because he has dementia Jackie has inherited That love of running

[00:21:38] She keeps trying to run away Yeah From the dumping ground Yeah And to run back to her grandad Who she believes is fine This is actually a nice place You've been at the dumping ground Too long And I was just thinking It might not be such a bad idea For grandpa to stay Don't be stupid And that I think that that is the storyline That got me The most times Like they all did At some point But this one

[00:22:07] Every time That this was featured In an episode I was gone I couldn't I simply couldn't handle it It's really sad Because all the other kids Know he's not as well Yeah Like her friends Are very very gently Trying to say to her Like He's not fine I think it's a good thing That he's here Because he Does need someone To look after him And she's like No Does that look like Someone who needs Looking after you Points to him running Does that look like

[00:22:37] A man who needs Looking after Yeah Because he's You know 80 years old And he's like Running about the courtyard It's like Oh god I mean I remember The first episode We meet him Crash has accompanied Jackie To the home And he's saying You know It's actually quite nice here And they're getting along And she introduces Crash to her grandad And then Jackie goes off To get drinks or something And the grandad Says to Crash

[00:23:06] Who's your nice lady friend? And it's so sad Yeah He also Continuously He doesn't call Jackie by the right name Norma He calls her Norma Which what? That was Jackie's mum Yeah We don't know what happened To Jackie's parents But she was looked after By her grandad She knows That he's not alright As well Which is what makes it Really So sad Yeah Oh my god Yeah So another I think another

[00:23:36] Key moment In In that Storyline Is Quite near the end Of the series All the kids Are sponsoring Um This was really sweet Yeah I mean What happened Wasn't The bestest But like I thought That whole episode Was really sweet The bestest It's a sponsored Charity run And Jackie and her grandad Are entering together And They all Sponsor

[00:24:05] The grandad And I think Um Because Tracy Beaker Is the one That says like We're all gonna do this And one of the kids Says If he doesn't finish You have to pay us Basically Michael Yeah it's Michael And We'll get on to Michael And When he collapses Halfway through the race And Um It's a 5k run So Yeah And Jackie finishes The race For him

[00:24:34] Always remember Save your best Till the last Always keep a surprise Up your sleeve Till the very end She comes back Into the dumping ground And they're all Cheering her She was third She was third Yeah Yeah She's in the home And she says I didn't win or anything Oh It don't matter I came in the first three Oh I'm proud of you And she said I came in the top three Yeah But yeah

[00:25:04] She goes back to the home And All the kids are cheering She says But he didn't finish And Michael is like That's what I said And they're like Yeah he did Yeah he did It's so sweet of them all Which is your room? Grandpa This is where you live Oh that's right Miss you love I'll be back soon I like that So Because She keeps running away In the first few episodes That she's there

[00:25:33] So I think I'm not sure which episode it was But Tracy pulls Jackie aside To be like Stop Trying to run away Let them Let them forget That you kept trying to run away Let them get Comfortable And then run away But then I think In doing that I don't know if this was Tracy's intention In doing that Jackie just genuinely Gets comfortable I think that is Tracy's Yeah Yeah I was worried You seeing me sit Will upset you I was worried This place would be horrible Didn't want to find you unhappy

[00:26:03] Well I can stop worrying This is made clear In series one and two But I think even more so In three That um Tracy Tracy has this idea That she always saves the day And that she's the longest resident And she's the queen of the dumping ground But in series three That that actually Is true Like she is the one that knows

[00:26:30] How to make everyone feel better And she also kind of knows it Like she's so comfortable there now She just knows exactly what to say To every different person To make them feel okay about their situation And to fix whatever crisis of the week it is I do feel bad for her Because it's almost like She's responsible for everyone else's feelings And nobody cares as much about hers But it

[00:27:00] This series Really like It annoys me When people We post clips of it on Instagram And you get a lot of comments about like Her being a little brat And how people didn't like her And this series especially Like You misunderstand the character so much If you think that Because she genuinely does so much good I don't need friends Especially not a creep like you All figured out eh How did you do that What now

[00:27:29] I have an idea Like she is genuinely Like yeah fine She's got anger issues She's got behavioural issues She's a bit older now So it's not Yeah As present in the show But she does so much good For other people Like she She genuinely cares And if she doesn't Even if she doesn't like the person that much She'll do it because she wants to do what's right Yeah In the end anyway Like She's very righteous Yeah she causes mischief And then she

[00:27:59] But she She always She does things at her own To her own detriment But if it's another person Then she does really care about them I also just From the perspective of like The psychology of a child Like Tracy She Acts out Because she's trying In a situation where she has No agency And no control She is doing what she can To take control back And if Like her misbehaving Is her way of doing that

[00:28:29] And then like She knows the inevitable result Is that people will abandon her Or that's what she thinks Like that's her Thought process Everyone's going to abandon me I'm going to be here forever The dumping ground And she pushes people To figure out What those boundaries are To be like Oh if I do this You're going to leave me So I bet I might as well do it now And figure that out now Rather than later Yeah There's kind of like A trio in this series And it's Crash Tracy and Jackie Yeah when I think back

[00:28:57] On the story of Tracy Beaker For me The core three Are those three Yeah me too Because they're There's no drama Between those three At all Like It's those two Maybe lol and bouncer And for me They're like The golden trio Like that's The image I have Of Tracy Beaker In my head And Interesting Now I know What's going to happen For the rest of the show That they're going to stay Yeah Yeah

[00:29:27] So Crash Has Anger issues Also that manifest In him smashing things up Which is why They call him Crash Easy Easy Breathe Put the plate down Which is demonstrated In quite an early episode So Jackie's new Crash You know Throws something And Tracy Quite innocently Quietly says Now you know why

[00:29:57] We call him Crash And she says Well I think that's horrible And Jackie goes And comforts Crash But you think I'm a case as well No Well that's a first Actually You're the only one Around here That makes any sense So far Those two are like Firm friends In this series There is A nice little Goodwill hunting Esque scene You know What I'm talking about I don't want to hurt people I know

[00:30:27] I get angry Just like him You're not like your dad Where It doesn't paint It doesn't paint In primary colours For you But as an adult It really does Right Like crashes in his room After smashing a whole window He throws a chair through a window Yeah And he's standing against the wall Angsty He says Bashing his head into it I'm just like him And Nathan You know The other man one Is in the room Saying like You're not like your dad

[00:30:56] And it's like Okay Just Like Your father You know Good duck I wanted to hurt Tracy But you didn't You only damage things Not people So that's nice So that's That's Crash's story He gets a little A little arc Where It's Tracy's idea Obviously To create a sort of Smashing things up Room in the garden For him So Again Oh she invented Rage rooms Yeah

[00:31:27] Yeah Yeah she's doing the work Of a social worker She's turning a profit Right now mate Honestly She's like Doing the work Week in week out Is Tracy The The rage Expressing therapy Is very Controversial And should not be used For children But Okay Because it encourages it Yes It encourages the outlet Of anger being Violent Oh okay So Nathan's still in it So that's That's nice He's not as prominent This season As last season We wondered if you Might be happier

[00:31:57] Somewhere else No Oh how could you Be so dumb No not really Because he's He's very settled in Yeah yeah He's sort of just There Yeah we love Nathan Every so often Doing a funny thing But most of the time Just there Yeah I think Duke has More of a Role in this season I love Duke I'm good Because he's the best Everyone loves Duke I love Duke No baking on Sundays Yeah the Justine story Storyline Yeah Let's get into that

[00:32:27] So dad got married In was it series one Or two Two Yeah I want to say Two as well I feel so fucking Bad for her All the time I have a question Because I can't remember Is in season one Or season two It established Why she's there And not with her dad No it's not actually So he works away a lot Right And I think I don't know where I got this idea from I think it was actually Made clear in the show But I'm not Completely sure

[00:32:56] I think he was so Distraught at the death Of his wife That he couldn't Take care of Justine But I could have Completely made that up No it even confused me As a child As to why her dad Was there all the time With his new wife And new baby on the way And she doesn't live with him Yeah no Because like When I was watching this So the step mum In this scenario She's been Quote unquote sick And then like The dad's been Not coming for a few weekends Because she's sick

[00:33:25] Turns out she's pregnant And I remember When I was sat there And I was watching it And I was like Wait so you You're about to have a Obviously this gets resolved Like two sentences later But You're about to have a baby But you can't have Justine And that to me Just didn't make any sense What happened to Tracy Beaker When her foster parents Found out they were Having a new baby She got dumped Back in the dumping ground And then obviously Like a minute or so later It's Oh the step mum's there

[00:33:54] To tell her about the pregnancy And to say We want Firmly We want you to come live with us And I was like Okay good Because or else That's so fucking unfair Yeah that's how the season ends Yeah With Them being a family But yeah It's goodbye party Yeah Oh my god It's Well even in that episode She's upset Because she's like You just want me as a babysitter For your new baby Yeah And you know Then Carrie is like No this baby connects us all Yeah And you know Carrie is um Very fucking lovely For her situation

[00:34:24] I do feel like There are people who wouldn't Be as patient Yeah I'm not saying That she's a saint for doing this She's just a normal nice person Like she's not It's not you know Over the moon and back It's just regular No no it's not Don't give her loads of praise For not being horrible To a child But there are lots of people Who wouldn't be as nice In that situation Yeah And she is very understanding And Justine is fairly difficult This isn't any old baby

[00:34:54] It's Justine Littlewood's Little brother or sister She is Yeah She's got a similar Temperament to Tracy Yeah Yeah But I just My heart absolutely bleeds For Justine Me too In this series It makes me want to cry In this episode Tracy and Justine Are talking about babies Obviously And both of them Fucking hate babies Because it's like Tracy previously Was with a foster family That then got pregnant And returned her Which Massive dick move Yeah what the fuck That's how the series begins

[00:35:23] That's how the entire series Begins Yeah Which is just Horrendous Like sorry It makes me very angry And then yeah They're both like Babies fucking suck Yeah because Justine Thinks that that's What's gonna happen to her Yeah Because it's like Oh parents Like adults Don't want kids They want babies They want their own baby And it's like Yeah that Yeah that sucks Yeah You wanted to say something About the relationship Between Tracy and Justine Yeah I think it's really nice In this season Like They are

[00:35:52] More than ever Just sisters They have this scene Where they're sat together In Tracy's room And they are Just They're just sat there Like Why are we so mean To each other Stop it Why can't you just Be friends with me You never said You wanted to be friends Because if I did You'd be nasty No I wouldn't See we even fight On being nice to each other We don't Have to be mean To each other Yeah they say It's just become a habit Or something And then Tracy says

[00:36:22] Well habits can be broken And then they have Like a hug And Then they go back To being mean To each other But It was me and my brother When I was like 13 and he was 15 Being like Hey should we Stop being mean To each other Or just start being Friends And we're like Yeah After that last knife fight We should maybe Put it away She's not joking But they do Genuinely care About each other Like Justine Is telling As soon as she's Found out

[00:36:52] That they want to go Her to go live with them I think Tracy's Like the first person That Justine tells Yeah And she's like They want me to come Live with them And it's like There's They They argue But they Don't resent each other Do you know what I mean It is like Their siblings And it's It's Really Nice to watch And throughout All three seasons Up to now When they have A task that needs doing When they have A shared goal They don't fight

[00:37:21] They just Oh Okay So there's an episode Where Louise is visiting And her foster mum Says to her Maybe try not to Rub it in their faces So much Louise Takes it to the extreme And she's like They lock me in the basement So I hate it So she goes Away With her mum For a trip in the park And Tracy and Justine Are like We've got to save Louise So they get The entire Dumping ground

[00:37:51] To go to the park They have their own Secret mission They're going to Track down Louise And just take her away I don't know what Their plan is But that's what They're going to do So they break off From the party And You know When they have A shared goal Like this They don't Bicker They're just Two characters Next to each other Goal orientated And there's a bit Where they're running Through the park And they're both Holding hands And it's just So sweet Because they really

[00:38:20] Are just sisters And it's so moving When they have Episodes like this Because You know That it's You know That it's a break Doesn't like it Doesn't like it here I guess But where's she Trying to get to Who knows You were always Dreaming up some Crazy escape Thinking your mum Was coming But I mean This kind of Is undercut By my mum Tracy Beaker In which They've not seen Each other for years They run into Each other again

[00:38:49] They have A physical fight In a cafe Fun And by the end Of my mum Tracy Beaker Tracy Beaker Has to break up With her boyfriend Because he has It is inferred That he It is implied That he has slept With Justine Littlewood So when they were kids Sure My mum Tracy Beaker It's They will always In every lifetime Find each other Derogatory Yes

[00:39:18] It's a threat They will always Find you In every life Derogatory They'll just Always be Like orbiting Stars like that And I remember When my mum Tracy Beaker Was Um Airing Well before it aired All the advertising For that Was based Around nostalgia And it was getting Like older people To tune in Because there was An advert Where they basically See each other Across a cafe And it's like Littlewood's back

[00:39:47] And I watched it live And the continuity Announcers Who I didn't Recognize Were saying And welcome To all of our Old viewers It's like Thank you You brought me here This does The Justine Uh Storyline Let's me talk about A pet peeve I have with TV shows And movies That I was talking About with Meg Earlier So The Carrie She's like Very early In her pregnancy When she's The house

[00:40:17] To tell her She's pregnant And she Whips out An ultrasound Of a six month Old baby Um A six month Old fetus Sorry yeah A six month Old baby You can't Ultrasound Sorry yeah Well you can But it won't It will look like Their insides Not them Um But yeah No Cause like Movies and TV Just always Do this It's like Oh I'm Twelve weeks Pregnant Here's this Six month

[00:40:46] Ultrasound Cause it looks Like a human Baby Rather than Something very Hard for a Non-trained Person to see And I really Think it creates This perception Of pregnancy Of like Fetuses That is very Incorrect That leads It's so harmful It's because It has to be Challenged Because Well do you Remember those Last year I think There was Definitely a Guardian article But it's based On a study That was showing What fetuses Actually look like

[00:41:16] At different stages Of development And it's like At four weeks It's a fucking Sneeze It's It's just a Cluster of cells Like it's not Anything that even Remotely resembles A human And I think it Creates this idea In people's heads That It is a Baby Not a fetus Not a cluster Of cells Much Much Much Much Much Earlier in Pregnancy That creates This idea That abortion Is bad Because it is Killing a Human life And it's like No You're getting Rid of Snot It's not It's not a

[00:41:46] Human baby Yet It's a cluster Of cells And I just It just Annoyes me Because I'm Like that's Wrong That's just That's just Not what it Looks like That early Tracy You're not Seriously Thinking About

[00:42:21] Bunking Half Really It's Yeah Bouncer's Getting older Yeah So he gets a job At a bakery He does He's very good at it This is so funny So he gets his Saturday job Good for Bouncer He's becoming a grown up Right And one of his Colleagues Keeps calling him Orphanage boy Yeah Bradley Actually My friends call me Bouncer Oh right Why didn't I call you Orphanage boy And we'll see

[00:42:50] How it goes from there I was like That's not even I can't even Engage with that Because it's so Silly Like that's not That's a pantomime Villain That's not a person This is weird Weird writing Orphanage boy So odd Well because it's like You can't be too mean It's a kids program Right But you've got to Do something To mark him out As being bullied So it's like Oh Orphan boy Yeah that's what I am

[00:43:20] Well done Oh my god It's so stupid And then by the end He He keeps his job So yeah Basically Lol and Tracy Sort of sabotage His position By like Being a nuisance In the bakery They're trying They're just trying To say hello But whatever Yeah He makes mayonnaise For them Like he shows That he's like skilled Because he's about To be fired Yeah He shows that He's skilled And they're like Eating it And they're like Hmm

[00:43:49] Not bad And then they're Friends again And it's like Does someone deserve Respect just because They're skilled Bakery's a meritocracy Zell Now you're gonna stop Calling him Orphanage boy Because he can Make cakes Oh he mayonnaise Oh we can watch Telly It's broken The dog He's at the vet He's at the vet He's at the vet He's at the vet No it's not that Then let's go No He gets a girlfriend

[00:44:19] Oh yeah He gets a girlfriend Bouncer gets a girlfriend God the face that Elsie just made When she made that sound Is so odd I've never made that sound Oh eww That's cute Do you wanna talk about that It's very late on in the season I was I was Talking to one of you about this Where So it's like Bouncer's Like suddenly taking better care of himself Like he's taking longer in the bathroom He's combing his hair He's trimming his nails

[00:44:48] He's brushing his teeth Etc He's like clean He's brushing his teeth I should hope so And like wearing cologne And all Like the other kids Especially Lol and Tracy Are like Oh He's found a foster family And he's gonna leave you behind None of them for a moment go Maybe it's for a girl And she wouldn't even consider Yeah She also works in the bakery They're adorable They are adorable They're so cute

[00:45:17] He lies to her at first about Which I don't know how He's being called the orphan boy In the bakery But no He lies to her And says he has a family And then Tracy But he does And Lol Yeah Yeah Basically organize it To invite her to the home And They go back And they tell all the kids They're like Bouncer's got a girlfriend She's coming around We need to make this place Spick and span And they clean the whole house And they set up A romantic dinner for them With eclairs and lemonade

[00:45:46] It's really cute It is And she comes around And she just Immediately accepts it At face value She doesn't get At first Where she is I don't know how you cannot Like Does she think that like Nathan and Duke are the staff I was I was just gonna say Does she think that Nathan and Duke are the dads Yeah It's like Oh Oh You live in a commune Got it Cool No And he's like This is a care home Obviously

[00:46:17] But you all live here He never said Surprise They invite me back to tea Is that okay Oh I should think so Where else do you get This selection of people Most of whom are children Yeah But no And then they have A really cute date In the house It's lovely I think that his hair Looks like Yeah Bouncer's hair Bouncer's hair Look like Guy Fieri They dress like Guy Fieri

[00:46:46] His hair looks like You know The topographical Desert Nuclear warning Spikes Yeah That's what his hair Puts me in mind A little cactus-y Yeah Yeah There's a line That always stuck with me In a LOL episode Where Tracy Is trying to get him A trial At a football team He's He's sad Because he's too young And he can't He can't try out And she says I've had my heart broken So many times

[00:47:15] It's 50% glue And that just Stuck with me All these years It did Yes it did Yeah That episode's really cute Where she's She is so She's so much gumption To just do anything Oh yeah yeah Social anxiety Is afraid of her Yeah Because she's like Oh you want to be a footballer We're going to get you On a fucking team I'm your agent now Yeah

[00:47:45] They figure out a way For him to He's too young But they figure out a way For him to be around And he becomes the mascot Which is so cute Is it like they've never heard Of youth football? I think I probably said this In series two But I'll repeat it The presence of Lol and Bouncer Makes me feel An enormous amount of comfort They're so good To all the They're like Funny older brothers To all the other kids Yeah they are And their relationship Is so close Like they're They're indestructible And

[00:48:15] They're just I don't know They're a comforting presence And I remember Their specific storyline So well And You can just You can kind of tell That on set They were probably The exact same people And I just I love them very much I have a real soft spot For Lol and Bouncer But what I'll say about Lol Is that Kieran Can't remember his surname But we probably said it In series two

[00:48:45] So We're covered Yeah If you just think of All of our Tracy Beaker episodes As one really long Tracy Beaker episode He has This Way of Acting That is sometimes A little too good For what he's in And I'm talking about A level of disdain That he sometimes has Like he plays Disdain Incredibly well Yeah There's this

[00:49:14] Episode where It's a radio Call in Competition And Some 80s music Is playing And they need to know The answer to it He goes into Elaine's office And she's listening To the show And he says Good You've been listening I need someone Old and sad In a way that was Like way too vicious I had to rewind it I was like That's brilliant Yeah Yeah no They're very good Both of them

[00:49:44] Like the acting Can be a bit Patchy Sometimes But they're Both very good Well they're Older So they're better Actors Than the little kids The little kids Are fine actually The new three We could talk a little bit About the new three kids Marco Adorable Which one's Marco The one that dresses up All the time Oh yeah He's cute He's so cute The one that He runs around Trying to figure out Where babies come from Yeah That's a fun episode Yeah Shelley Ratherer than me

[00:50:13] Nah it's easy peasy It's just birds and bees Stuff innit Well I was talking to Meg I was like What would you do In that situation Because I feel like I would just Explain Yeah You'd have thought They'd be trained on that As you know This is part of the Part and parcel With the conversation Where it was like Oh if you don't Have parents Either if you don't Have parents You do this Or you just don't Have parents Who You're completely Reliant on school Sex education Which I don't know about you guys I don't think it's

[00:50:42] Necessarily robust Maybe Well I don't know It's been It's been a while Do you think it's changed Do you think it's changed I don't know Maybe Maybe it has It's also not blanket Because the schools It's up to the schools To sort out their own Sex education My school Had a very Very comprehensive Sex education And I know this Because at the time What age I don't know Like the whole year I think we had it Every year Oh okay That is comprehensive

[00:51:12] And I remember Because I was This is very Losery But I was part of The Like I guess District youth council And so Every month Me And My friend Used to go We were like Basically representatives From our school Who was it Do I know them Yeah And We had a session About sex ed In the

[00:51:42] Area And We had like We had to fill out A form And say whether This had been That had been done And covered in our school And we were the only one Who had covered everything Wow okay What's everything? Well I don't remember Else I just remember Other people Had We were the only one Who'd managed to Take everything On this thing Saying that this Had been covered This had been covered The only niche Sex education thing I can think of Is like If you use the wrong Lube It can eat through Condoms But I can't remember Which one that is And then again

[00:52:12] That's not even niche That's pretty standard Important to know Actually I learned that From the TV show Sex education Really? I learned that In probably about Year eight Yeah see I didn't really Know that So you probably Also learned it From the sex education Show But you didn't No I learned it From you now Okay But I can't remember Which lube it is No it's If it's oil based It can eat through Latex There you go If it's water based Then you're safe Well I am safe

[00:52:41] Because who the fuck's Using oil based Yeah ew Sorry Bougie folks People who don't Use condoms else Ancient brown lube Oh yeah sure sure Who just used olive oil Yeah they say Oil based lube And what they mean Is olive oil Olive oil If you're getting Your lube from The kitchen cupboard Just be careful Yeah No Because I went To three different Schools And I don't think Any of them Had a comprehensive Sex education My last school They did a

[00:53:10] When we Started doing PSHE Because it was A new school They asked Everyone in the Class If they'd had sex This was an Anonymous form If they'd had sex And if they'd Done drugs And it was Something like 80% of our year Had sex already So they were like We don't need to Teach you Fuck You might You might though That might have Been a bad choice I remember my school Having a Top up Of sex ed At one point And We have new Information No My mum found out

[00:53:40] Through someone She knew At the school That it was Because there was A chlamydia Oh Kind of outbreak A bit like in Sex education But no one was Talking about it It was just Happening And Safeguarding I guess Had got wind of it And we suddenly Had an extra Session about STIs I want to talk about The other little kids That's Marco Covered quite comprehensively We went off on one Yeah Who's that? Hi

[00:54:09] Oh Hayley What's your name? Hayley Is adorable She's adorable We love Hayley Her character Is just quiet Yeah And she does have A little She has a Episode that Is an outburst Where she's just Being loud Yeah Because the others Sort of take her For granted a little bit Because she's tiny And quiet But she's so So cute And I think that All the other kids Really like her as well And definitely Shelley likes her Because she puts her Paintings up everywhere Which is

[00:54:38] Really cute Yeah And Leila When I Like Re-watched Every series Because it's Filmed in Wales Like a lot of CBBC dramas are A lot of BBC Dream She's so Welsh She's Right I could pick up Like Oh now I can Now I can hear That Loll and Bouncer Are Welsh I can hear that now It's like a slight Lilt Leila's so Welsh But I'll miss My play Rehabilitation It's all arranged

[00:55:08] We're doing Sleeping Beauty Uh Sorry Pumpkin She um They In an early episode It was her Marco And Hayley Get together And form the Tracy Beaker Club Because they're Trying to Initially they're Trying to do Little pranks Like Tracy And then Tracy Combs over And is like This is a weak source You've got to do Way better And gives them A bunch of examples So what's it gonna be Knickers Worm Deal Beaker

[00:55:38] Beaker Club Beaker Club Beaker Beaker Club Beaker Club Beaker Club Which they then Proceed to do All of Yeah Um To the detriment Of uh Leila Because she No Dolly Dolly sorry She Quote unquote Accidentally Drops Ketchup And what is it Flower Flower or Flower bomb Yeah Onto their heads As they walk in Onto the heads Of her new Foster family Yeah And it's It's It's a really Horrible moment For Tracy

[00:56:07] Because um Dolly then Turns to her And she's like Yeah If we are like you Because no one Wants us I just wanted to be Like you Tracy Beaker Now I'm really Like you Aren't I No one's gonna Want anything To do with me Ever But also Tracy Takes the blame For all Everything that They've done Because they're Calling themselves The Beaker Club Which is so Cute And in front of Dolly's like Prospective

[00:56:36] Foster family Tracy goes She was just Following my Orders basically Which Bless her Yeah Yeah Anyone can see They're the sweetest Kids in the whole World But today They decided to Be like me Tracy Beaker But deep down They're nothing Like me Well They're nice Aren't they But Dolly Is absolutely Adorable And there's a Oh god There's a Storyline in this Where Cam Has the idea To write

[00:57:06] Her first novel About the dumping Ground Or like Something based On the dumping Ground Yeah it's called The dumping Ground kids The dumping Ground kids And She gets annoyed Because they're all Trying to give Their individual Ideas And she's like No It's just gonna It's There's gonna be No sword fights There's gonna be No princesses It's just My novel You don't need To keep giving me These ideas But Dolly Comes up to her And says

[00:57:36] This is me Like a picture of her I want you to put it On the front cover So that all the mums And dads can see How nice I am Oh I just I went I couldn't I absolutely Couldn't handle it Like what do you mean What do you mean By putting that In a children's drama She's tearing up guys Yeah I was about to say It looks like She's about to start crying Like how can you do that What if she like Six If that What do you mean So all the mums and dads Can see how nice I am Do you want a hug

[00:58:06] That's evil Do you want a friend No I'm fine But like She says with tears In her eyes It's fine I'm fine That's it We're horrible That's a good storyline Actually because Tracy truly believes That the main character Trudy Is based on her And by the end of the book She's not left The dumping ground So her and Cam Fall out over that And that's That's a really nice Storyline It sounded like It physically hurt you It does hurt me

[00:58:35] That's a really nice Storyline This show does hurt me It doesn't have to be Your ending you know No Maybe not Besides You don't know what Happens to her in the sequel Michael Michael Shall we talk about It's time to talk About Michael Michael Is Michael Lend me a cycle Insert clip here What's up No one hungry today We're all on hunger strike Yeah

[00:59:06] Everyone except him Describe Michael I'm sorry He's a little He's a little prick Isn't he He's He's the most Irredeemable child Yeah he It's surprising Because they do They give so Much Character And like So many redeeming qualities To All The other characters It's almost like By the time they got to Michael There were no redeeming qualities Left to give out

[00:59:36] Unless you think He's absolutely Absent of them It's like Unless you think The dark triad And Machiavellian traits Are good things Because That's him He's very Machiavellian For like An eight year old I Love Michael I'll tell you Why I love Michael He's great to watch Yeah He is He's so entertaining I feel Really Really Horrible For him Because he has No allies In that house He has

[01:00:05] No friends At least when Jackie Was at school She didn't spend Every lunchtime Alone I'm sure when Michael Settles in He'll make lots of new friends No I think I feel bad for him Because even The show Hates him And he's An eight year old In a children's home The one time That the show Used his evil For good Is the The 5k The running Episode with Jackie And her granddad

[01:00:34] Is that He There It's too late For Jackie To have registered And they're talking To the organiser And the organiser Is like It's too late It's just too late And then Michael goes It's an awful nice car You've got over there It's like a convertible As well So it's very open For fiddling And you're like Very clear In this child's face That he will do something He says They scratch so easily Yes That's it Yeah It's like

[01:01:04] Finally The show is using His deviousness For good He is devious I want to take you through Two of Michael's Worst moments That happened In the same episode So it's an episode Where A girl Sophia I think she's called Oh no He's awful In this episode It's so bad They bring in a character Who can't speak English And we can talk more About that After this

[01:02:00] So in the middle And Tracy's laying there Be quiet But in the morning She's a lot more sympathetic Because the other kids Are there So she's trying to Like You know Defend her And Michael Says She doesn't speak English Great Hi Sophia You've got the biggest nose I've ever seen Leave off Sado I love your scarf It's really ugly Just like you It's like That is bordering on Well it's a bit racist Actually

[01:02:29] Yeah it's a bit Islamophobic It's nasty to watch Nasty Yeah It's The fact that it was included Is kind of hilarious to me Like This They do not want you To feel any sympathy For this child That has not got a hope In the world It's so Fucking sad Dark It's so dark And in the same episode He Says To Um Jackie Jackie Oh Your grandad won't even notice This is his birthday

[01:02:58] He's a bit Doolally isn't he Like Same episode Evil The stuff with Sophia Made me really sad Yeah Yeah I was like Michael's turning out to be A right EDL little cunt Isn't he Like No offence But like Here he is He's nasty to everyone And now he's being racist Fantastic The best part is though Tracy Tells Michael To bog off And English So Michael is just shouting

[01:03:27] This stuff across the table At her She's heard Tracy say Bog off And she goes Bog off Nice one Sophia You're gonna regret that Back off Michael Who's gonna make me We are She doesn't speak English And yet In one line She's She's Trounced Yeah She's managed to trounce Michael It's fantastic And I I felt Awful For her Like So bad

[01:03:57] Yeah But I do like The resolution of that Sort of story Like she's only there For an episode And within that episode They have to There's like a competition Within the house To create a new painting Because they've Smashed one And Michael Of course Ruins Tracy's Halfway through And then We see Sophia Rip it in half When she's left alone With it And I was going Oh my god What? And then she Recreates it And finishes it In this really lovely way

[01:04:27] But And Tracy gets a prize For it Which she then gives to her As she's leaving Which I thought was really nice And Sophia says thank you To her Yeah I thought it was super nice One of the best episodes Of Tracy Beaker ever Is the one where Michael has a crush on Louise Yes Sorry When I was watching this episode I was like Oh my god I remember this so vividly And he's like Playing her The rest of the kids In the house Know that he's Going to do this They've set him up To do it They've told him To do it And they've

[01:04:56] Put a walkie talkie In the living room And Like under a cushion So they can hear him Doing it Um I wanted you to hear something He's going to do it He's going to do it He's going to do it He's going to do it And He Like Louise just comes Inside And he like Kneels down With a guitar In front of her And And he's about Four foot He dresses like Guy Fieri And for someone That's four foot Not Not great And he

[01:05:26] He sings Um I'm down On my knees You're holding The keys Please don't tease I'm begging you please I'm down To my heart To my heart Like over and over again And the kids Are in the room Laughing Howling I mean it's It is bullying That's bullying I was in here With me and Megan Watching it

[01:05:55] And she genuinely Remember Because she did The exact Heart Look what you just did Like right with him Oh yeah I sung with I sung with him And then I Made a note Of the time stamp So that I could Put it on our Instagram later Because I was like This Laughing Well the thing About Michael Is that he's Only in one Series

[01:06:24] And every Child that Leaves Before You know Before they're Not included They get some Sort of resolution Like they're Fostered or Whatever Michael is Never mentioned Again We don't know What happened To Michael He was there As an antagonist And I guess To make Yeah Quite possibly We do not know That the show Firmly Does not give a Fuck about Michael

[01:06:54] And it makes me Love him Well they For an episode They bring in His brother And there's like Talk that his Brother might be Taking him away And Well that's talk From the brother That he's gonna Take him away Yeah But the It basically Doesn't happen And the other kids Kind of have to Talk Michael Off the ledge They're like He doesn't know Where he's going So how is he Gonna take you With him Well he's run away From a halfway house Yeah So both of those Kids have been In care You would assume

[01:07:23] Their whole lives It's heartbreaking And even so Like Michael Is such He's such a twat To everyone And Tracy still Sticks up for him In that episode Your brother's Really sorry But he can't Take you with him You're lying Well he doesn't Know where he's Going or how He's gonna live We'll manage You won't You're just a kid Because a horrible Thing is happening To him The other thing That happens In that episode Is that his Brother asks Michael for money It's like this 16 year old Has gone to

[01:07:52] The care home That his little Brother is staying In to ask him For money Michael gives him His pocket money And we don't know If he gets it back It's so Fucking tragic Yeah Poor kid Get out If you really cared For him You'd stop him Before he gets In really big trouble I hate you And I hate him Tell him I never Want to see him Again A storyline That came Quite near the End of The series That I always Remembered actually

[01:08:22] Was Tracy's seeing She's in the Science museum And she's seeing Three foster parents Three sets of Foster parents In one day But she Attaches herself To a random Dad and son That she takes A liking to And it's Tom is the name Of the man And I can't Remember the name Of the son I thought you Were going to Back on either No I can't Remember She goes She calls him Like Duh At one point Yeah yeah We'll just refer To him as Duh

[01:08:51] And they get Talking and Elaine's there And Tom Says to Elaine Because Elaine is Always visibly Stressed Yeah He says Kids Come on Let's grab a Coffee You look like You need one Don't worry About them They'll be Right on their Own for a bit Come on Oh they're Just kids Come on Let's go Get coffee And instantly I was like Okay I did not Remember This part

[01:09:21] Of the story I know that Tracy got it In her head For a couple Of episodes That they're Going to Foster her Didn't remember This Had no Memory Elaine You didn't Take Tracy In a car With strangers Well it It seemed Tom here Very kindly Often So for the Next sort Of three Episodes Tracy's Finding Excuses To like You know She leaves Her jacket In their car Because they Give him a lift Back And you know She's trying to See them And trying to

[01:09:50] Steals his hat Yeah yeah yeah There's like Lots of Machinations In my head In my head 90s dating Tactics Where you Leave something At their house So they Have to Call you Yeah I had Absolutely No memory Of the Tom Elaine Stuff When it Happened I mean I Think it's The second Kiss that's Ever been Seen on Tracy Beaker After Tracy And Wilson After Tracy And Wilson Which we'll Get to I screamed I was in This room

[01:10:20] On my own And I Screamed Because it's Elaine Fuck me I think I was Looking away I don't remember This at all I watched it Today I'm happy For her I remember When she's I think in the Last episode Of the season Maybe the One before Tracy's talking To Elaine She's like Oh I Think this This might This might Be the one This might Be it And then Elaine I think Thinks Tracy's Talking about Tom and Her Because Elaine's Like I never Thought it either I think this Is it as Well Yeah she's Saying like I've always

[01:10:50] Said Tracy Haven't I That there's Someone for Everyone Which is What she Says about Foster parents But she's Talking about Herself Now I Tracy gets Mad as Well Tracy's Like you're Supposed to Be finding me A foster Family Not finding Yourself A boyfriend Keep your Voice down I shout As loud as I want Dad Snatcher Tracy You're Supposed to Find me Parents Not yourself A boyfriend I mean Is it Again I mean I guess It's not Against the Rules But also Are you Technically At work But also You kind Of Live there

[01:11:20] A bit Does Elaine Live there No Elaine Doesn't The others Do Elaine Is the Foster No sorry The social Worker The others Work in The house No What she Did was Irresponsible Tracy Invited These two To Justine's Leaving Party And Elaine Takes Advantage These People Well The child Whatever But this Man Is presumably Unvetted She's invited Him into The Safe Space

[01:11:50] The house That she The children's Home that she Works at I didn't know You were coming Yeah Elaine Invited us Uh oh Watch out Elaine never invites People to our Barbecues Unless she's got Big plans for them I wonder what Big plans Elaine's got For you Dad And gets Off with him In what looks Like a broom Cupboard Fucking fair play No because Tom is lovely Actually He's so Um Good at like Yes and He rolls with Fucking everything He's so good With kids Like when Tracy is being A fucking Nightmare He just looks

[01:12:20] Amused Yeah No he would Actually be a Wonderful foster Dad But It was Elaine That he was After So Fair play Hey um We're going to The circus Saturday Do you want To come What After all This We like Excitement Don't we Jake As long As you Two Promise Not to Outdo The clowns And Elaine I mean I Spoke about This on the Instagram She's kind of A bit of a Fox really She kind of Is Like they can Dress her up In these Like frumpy Clothes But like if You actually Watch the show As an adult Now

[01:12:50] She's like Really Really Fucking Pretty I mean if You saw Someone walking Down the street In that In our Current moment Of culture Dressed like That You'd be like Slay Yeah you'd be Well fair I'd assume I'm in Shoreditch Yeah yeah I'd assume She was very Young She was 30 When she started No that's fair But if I saw her Now I'd be like Oh you're probably Like 22 Because you're Dressed like that Yeah Yeah Yeah it's come Back around Yeah exactly Yeah Yeah

[01:13:19] Also she rocks A purple lip gloss Like Honestly She matches her Lipstick to her Cardigan Gorgeous Slay queen Who else has That set up I was honestly Just so delighted With this storyline That I had entirely Blanked from my mind We should probably Talk about Wilson Why is it always Your fault I Actually I did this To myself See I love pouring Flour over me And I love the smell Of rotten egg Wilson arrives In an episode Because his mum's In hospital or something

[01:13:49] So he's in He's staying at the house Very temporarily

[01:14:20] And Tracy sort of It's okay I'm not offended Then in the next episode They uh It's quite clear That Tracy has a Quush on him And he on her And he on her And she has Her first kiss In that episode It's not It's not that fiery No it's They're stood as far Apart As you could possibly Be But also kissing No but they do With a cute little How about you You go that way And I go this way It's very funny I wish they played Some really cheesy music

[01:14:50] Or something Would have been Very on brand For the show Yeah Yeah But now instead It's just You see Justine Popping her head Around the door Going Well it's deathly silent And I think that's More realistic I quite like it Yeah Maybe if you go this way And I go This way Okay I like it I don't know how realistic It is to discuss The logistics beforehand You just go into And you hit your head Oh it's cute though They're like 13 It is cute But would you have

[01:15:20] Had the wherewithal To go hang on Let's make sure We set this up correctly You just go You headbutt someone And you learn You learn I remember this airing And being like Oh yeah He departs in the middle Of the night As a six year old one He leaves in the middle Of the night So he's not there In the next morning And Tracy's like Kind of upset But it turns out He's left photos of them From a photo booth And his number Yeah She doesn't call it though

[01:15:49] She doesn't call it though Well in one of those episodes Louise is talking about Her boyfriend And she's talking about How cool he is And one of the lines She says is He wears a baseball cap All the time I'm concerned that Your new phone is Well It's distracting you From your work That's not my fault Is it? Frankly I think it is We should probably talk About the little Frisson between

[01:16:19] Duke and Shelley The fake Oh yes The fake Frisson This episode really Dates it Because Duke Has got A mobile phone A new mobile phone And it's like A Nokia Something or other So as a prank I think it's Lol and Bouncer They steal Shelley's phone And text him Like love poems Poetry Yeah They go in And they ask Wilson and Tracy To do it And part of the reason That the show Informs you that Wilson and Tracy

[01:16:48] Might have a crush On each other Is all these Romantic tinglings Of music Which they didn't Play when they kissed Which they didn't Play they should have Actually that's a Really good point So they ask Wilson it's like Oh are you romantic And then he just Spouts some poetry With this tinkling music And then Tracy goes Oh that's easy And then spouts More poetry And lol and Bouncer Like this is great We've got it Thanks guys And they text it To Duke from Shelley's phone And it's unclear It's unacceptable It's unacceptable

[01:17:18] Unclear as to Whether Duke Is into this Or not When he finally Finds out that It's Shelley Because it's like An unknown number To him Is he encouraging it I don't know He's definitely Into being liked I don't know If he's into Shelley Which doesn't make A secret admirer Until they find out It's someone they Find repulsive Yeah We've all been there You know Yeah well Sure It's like Any you know Fancying your co-worker Is like

[01:17:48] Do you fancy them Because they're hot And you like them Or do you fancy them Because you see them Every day Because they're there Yeah But I thought I was Your moon Your stars Your everything I beg your pardon There's no use denying it I saved the text You sent me Look I've often wondered About the home lives Of the social workers Because they do live there That's the thing Like They don't have home lives That's their home life Yeah you would assume

[01:18:18] Like I don't think There's in Tracy Beaker There has ever been A canonically married Social worker But anyway They find out That it was a prank And they're both Fucking fuming Because he would be Like that's crossing a line Isn't it It really is Oh you've been sending me Like a romantic text And you're a What fucking 14 year old I don't fucking think so And at the end Duke says I don't think I'm ready For a mobile phone And he's like Yeah It's 2004 Too early Too early Well he leaves his relationship

[01:18:48] Oh do you think Yeah Oh I hadn't considered that I did think this was interesting While we were watching it Because It's I think Danny Han would have been About 14 When this was recorded 14, 15 So it's like Appropriate That they brought This in Yeah To the series Because that's kind of I think she's supposed to be A little younger Because she's still in primary school She's not at all In primary school No because she is She's wearing primary school uniform No you still have her uniform No I know

[01:19:18] I thought Because she's wearing That summer dress Laura If she was in primary school She'd be 10 Or 11 Yeah She's definitely not 11 Yeah that's fair Yeah She wasn't even When She wouldn't have even been In primary school When she was cast in the role Fair She was 12 When she was cast Okay I was just I guess yeah I was just reading the uniform And went Ah you're in year 6 I think that they just did that For set dressing To be honest with you Well well Never thought I'd see The day Tracy Beaker Had a crush on a boy What I don't

[01:19:47] I don't even like Wilson Thanks very much What were you going to say About her being 14 Oh it's appropriate To start bringing This kind of storyline Because they weren't In the previous seasons really Right yeah yeah This is This is the first season Where Tracy Is an age Where I recognise The Danny Harmer That I know Yeah Like she looks Like Looks and sounds And talks Like the Danny Harmer That I recognise From Instagram You know Yeah

[01:20:15] I was talking to My colleague About we were going to Start doing this episode And he Obviously Because he's normal He doesn't consume As much Of this sort of media As I do Children's media Yeah He said to me Danny Harmer Seems So incredibly lovely Like that's his experience Of Danny Harmer And I think He's just right There are some Child stars I feel like Want to

[01:20:45] Distance themselves From that Whereas She Leans into it In a way That she almost Really sees the value Of it Where she celebrates it Yeah She has directed Episodes of The Beaker Girls And like The new sort of Legacy Yeah yeah yeah So with Her daughter My mum Tracy Beaker She's directed Episodes of This new era She Completely has Embodied

[01:21:15] Tracy Beaker It's just her life And I think That's Yeah So so lovely And well The truth is I really like you Tracy Beaker I want to talk about Crash a little bit The fact that the Actor Dara someone Sorry He's in Danny's house That's him As an adult Oh yeah So the two of them Who are what Maybe 28

[01:21:44] Or something like that Were In a sitcom A CBBC sitcom Together Just playing friends In a house And I recognised him Instantly I knew it was him And going back To see the first Series That he's in And he's just a baby And just the two of them Together And the fact that they Then did that other Project together I think that's so lovely She's gonna cry again No I'm not gonna cry I just think It's It's nice It's nice That they were

[01:22:13] Doing stuff together For so long A lot of content Has come out of Tracy Beaker And we Are continuing The trend I can't wait To do Danny's house That was such An interesting show It had so many Components It was a very Interesting show It was I Recently Watched it Actually And I was like This is not Funny But then Like any comedy That's not funny It really has Its moments Occasionally

[01:22:42] Did anyone else Notice Watching this That Establishing shots In Tracy Beaker Are Extreme Extreme Dutch angles Yes Like why I genuinely Did Why I genuinely Did I genuinely Had that thought It was one where I don't remember What was going on In the scene But it was like Where Bouncer and Lola Like standing in the corridor With their arms crossed And you're Watching them From the floor

[01:23:12] It's so Strange Who made that decision The spice up The shots Games I kind of like it Someone just did like An intro course To cinematography And they were like Yeah yeah yeah I wrote about this new thing To spice up shots Dutch angle Next season They'll be doing Dollies I think it suits The tone of the programme It's quirky It's quirky Yeah I like it too I also think that Her relationship with Cam In this series

[01:23:42] Is like Very Lovely And settled Like She's at The dumping ground Cam takes her out For weekends And it's just A sort of Stasis Yeah And I like the way That they've really Settled into their Relationship in this season They do have Their ups and downs With the whole Book storyline But um Cam I think Now just gets Tracey Yes And knows how to Deal with Tracey In a way that I think Will only

[01:24:11] Really help their Relationship moving on And that's Cam's Storyline throughout Really And she stands up To her more Now as well She actually says To Tracey Near the end of the season You take me For granted And It really makes Tracey think And it's Yeah I love those two Those two Actually make me Feel really Emotional as well Their Storyline throughout The season There's multiple Occasions where Tracey's quite Harsh With Cam And then

[01:24:41] There's Consequences Of Cam Like leaving Right But Tracey Has come to Know Because Because they've Had time To get more Comfortable and Settled with each Other that Tracey can Apologize And Cam Will come back Like Cam Isn't gonna go Just because Tracey's yelled at her Like she's learning That and it's Good development Yeah Like So in a lot of This series Cam's away in New York Yeah She's on a writing Course Yeah

[01:25:10] And Tracey has to Get her appendix Taken out And Cam Flies straight home Which is Just so So nice Yeah Because she really Loves her That's the thing Like you can see Her begin to love Tracey Yeah And Tracey Kind of understand What that actually Means Yeah They've got They've got like You can see That Tracey As she's got older And has got to know Cam better Has given up The idea of What she thinks Her mum should be

[01:25:40] And has warmed To the idea Of what Cam Is Yeah Tracey does learn From all the things That happen to her Which is Is nice Like She She's An arsehole About Cam's book Because she thinks That it's about her And that it means She's never gonna get Fostered Because the child At the end of the book Isn't fostered Although I do think Maybe Cam should have Deviated a bit more From Tracey's life From the book Because fair enough That Tracey

[01:26:09] Got that From reading it But She's Yeah She's an arsehole About the book And it makes Cam Not want to do anymore Like she's And at one point Lol and Bouncer Say to Tracey Fishing for new book ideas I bet Soon as we're She's here Yeah That's funny Because She was telling us How she wished She hadn't written The first one No she's not doing it To spite you In fact she said to us That she wishes She'd never written it Because of everything That it's caused

[01:26:38] And Tracey's like Oh hold on a second That's not what I wanted to happen And goes and apologises To Cam And is like It's the best thing You've ever written Yeah it's great What do you mean? She's gutted about you Tracey She's scared to never Be mates again No she's She's just I don't think so I do think also If she wanted Tracey To feel less like it was her She shouldn't have named The main character Trudy That's kind of what I mean It's also hilarious That these care workers

[01:27:07] Allowed this woman To hang around A care home And write a book Called Dumping Ground Kids Yeah That is funny Yeah Right So Moving on to A more serious section Because in watching this I had questions About children's homes Well we've This is pre Tory austerity And it's already A bit rough Obviously I don't know How accurate it was For 2004 But I wanted to know What the current state Of children's homes

[01:27:37] Was Because Yeah we've had 14 years Of shit I wasn't here But it happened To the country So we And I yeah It's So content warning Again Just here Because we're going to Talk about like Unpleasant things That have happened to children And are still happening To children So A lot of the stuff I was finding Comes from Last year Because Last September The Children's commissioner Did a

[01:28:06] Big investigation Big report About the state Of children's homes In the UK Because of A rapid increase In illegal Children's homes Which I'll get into What that actually Means later So Yeah so the report It looks at Illegal care practices With hundreds of children Placed in homes Not registered with Ofsted Breaching the Care Standard Act Of 2000 So an illegal Children's home Literally is just one That's not registered With Ofsted Because Ofsted Maintained the

[01:28:36] Standards For these kinds Of things Obviously So most of the time These homes are operated By private companies With minimal oversight Leading to Dangerously poor care And high costs To the taxpayers Which we'll get into More because Fuck Me Are these expensive Every night Hundreds of children Sleep in illegal homes Unsafe Isolated Run for profit They're in Holiday camps Airbnbs Or caravans And obviously Because their private Profit is Prioritized over Children's wealth

[01:29:05] Children's wealth Fair The annual cost To local authorities Is nearly 400 million pounds Sorry 440 million pounds Despite the poor care So and a significant Number of these children The reason they're in These sort of dire situations Is because they're all under Not all of them A lot of them Are under deprivation Of liberty orders Which means So do you guys know What a deprivation Of liberty I do not No So I think it's If not the same

[01:29:34] Similar to the conservatorship That they have in the states Okay So it's a legal process That allows a person's Liberty to be restricted If they lack the capacity To make decisions About their care And treatment The restriction Needs to be necessary To ensure their Safety and well-being Or you can't You can't have one Ordered The measure is intended As a last resort When secure accommodation Or placements Are not immediately available And what this means Is that they have to be Under supervision By at least two people For 24 hours a day And they're Usually completely isolated

[01:30:05] 775 children Were in unregistered placements As of last September And over a thousand Of these placements Were reported to Ofsted 94% of the placements Were in private homes 99% of the children Are 11 to 17 64% of them Need special education Requirements 41% are involved With CAMS 31% of these children Have gone missing At some point In their care And 33% of these placements Exceeded a cost

[01:30:34] Of 1 million pounds a year Am I hearing That there are more Illegal Un-Ofsted registered Children's Quote unquote Homes Than Standard ones That wasn't clear Because the report's Mostly about the illegal homes It doesn't talk as much About the But there's a lot of them There's a lot of them Okay Ofsted last year In the summer Did a report And they found That 91% of Local authorities Struggle to find Suitable homes For children

[01:31:03] One of the issues That they kept talking about Is that children's homes Keep cropping up In the wrong areas Like there'll be Loads of children's homes In not where we need Children's homes To summarise So far So far The state of Children's homes In the UK Is that There's a lot Of unregistered ones They are Costing The council A huge amount Of money And

[01:31:32] They can't Get rid of them Because then The children would have No place to go Yeah So we've got into A situation Where There's A real crisis In that It's A huge Drain on resources And there's no way To put these children Into better care Because there's no Interim Yeah To put them anywhere Yeah God how on earth Did we get here That's It's terrifying

[01:32:02] Private equity Moving into a public sector Yeah Like Tail as old as time In it Tail as old as the 80s These are some horrible Things that you're saying Yeah So I'm just gonna read this Fully just Word for word Authorities are budgeting To increase So Both Labour And the Tories Tories right at the end And Labour now Are trying to fix this But I'll get into How later Authorities are budgeting To increase Children's social care spending By 1.4 billion pounds

[01:32:31] In this year With spending Looked after children Accounting for 933 million Of that budget I think more of it Needs to go to Actually building the houses And training the people Because Trained people Is also another Huge crisis here Because it's like Hiring people Who are unvetted For months After they start Working there So it's like There was one home In Doncaster Where people Who had been Working there For six months Before they were Background checked As whether they Could work for children Wow

[01:33:00] So annual council Spending on Private children Homes Providers who run The vast majority Of children's homes There you go Which grew by 105% From 2016 To 2022 The increase In private Children's homes During which time The number of Registered places Only grew by 11% Unlawful children's homes Are demanding £20,000 a week Per child To keep Young vulnerable People safe Yeah so before Before they left power The Conservatives Set up a market

[01:33:30] Advisory group Tasked with looking At how to tackle Profiteering in the Children's social care Sector Nothing came of it Labour It's in their manifesto Actually to fix this But we'll see what they do So back when Tracey Beaker got made I mean I've seen Plenty of people Saying that you know They would be You know 10 years old And they thought Oh it looks like fun Being in a children's home Do you think That it was

[01:33:59] A good representation Because we'll never know Because It's Very very difficult To get a camera In those places Like there's no All the information I have About children's homes Is from Like What I know Of the culture In there Is from Tracey Beaker Like I think That people outside Of that system Actually have No idea And that is all

[01:34:29] I personally Know about it Well in Doing this research I came across An article that's A life and care Isn't what Tracey Beaker Made it out to be That's the title It's by Christy Capes It's published In 2021 In Cosmopolitan And she's written A book about her Experience in care In the UK And she talks about How Well so like One of the things She says in her article Is that every child In Tracey Beaker Is like a problem child Which she Wasn't her experience She doesn't Like

[01:34:59] Say it's bad She doesn't say That it's like Really really Misleading She's like The problems in that show Exist in real life So it's good that they're Like a light Has shined on them But it's you know Not accurate But it's never said It was trying to be Accurate So it's more like A drama for all kids Rather than a drama For kids in care Okay Yeah she So one of the other Things she says Is like This isn't Tracey Well this is Post the story Of Tracey Beaker

[01:35:28] She says that There's so many Harmful tropes In TV show And film About how Once you leave care Children who are Care leavers Are criminals Murderers Rapists That kind of thing And it's like That's not her experience With people who've Left care Obviously But Tracey Beaker Obviously bunks that trend Because she's just What I haven't seen The grown up one She's just a normal woman Yeah pretty much Yeah Despite Ofsted knowing about this And like Despite Ofsted getting Hundreds and hundreds Of claims There was like They launched 845 investigations

[01:35:58] Between 2022 And 2023 And not a single One Went to court Or went anywhere So it's like You know there's a problem You go and you see There's a problem But you're still not Doing anything about it I don't know how much Power Ofsted have But clearly If they have it They're not using it Home in Doncaster I saw a photo of it It's huge Massive place This went to court This was actually in court So Like Home in Doncaster Was found to have These incidents Children reportedly Locked overnight

[01:36:27] In bathrooms Left in spoiled clothes Made to sit in cold baths And deprived of medication For days The mother of a girl Who was autistic And had severe learning Difficulties in epilepsy Told us The observer Her daughter had been Dragged across the floor Of a home Criminal record checks Were not signed off For some staff Up to six months After they started Working with vulnerable Children And that Hesley's accounts Recorded A 16% profit Of 12 million pounds In these sites

[01:36:56] With a 17% Profit margin Which was Called Excessive By watchdog Really? Yeah But it's like Yeah What can you do Because if you Close these places Down Yeah What's gonna happen Then What's worse A bad place to go Or no place to go Yeah And it's I mean Sometimes no place to go But sometimes A bad place But it's like It depends Depends on the place Right But if you do it All at once That's Thousands and thousands Of children on the street All at once

[01:37:26] Like that's Not It's just not feasible Yeah That's hundreds and hundreds Of homes Thousands of children Suddenly What? Kicking up at the council office? Because they're the council's Responsibility So if your kid's taken away From you And the only place available Is a private home 40 miles away Council's got no choice But then it's like How the fuck do you see your kid That you want Probably Presumably to get back But you have to travel 40 miles These kinds of things Where it's like Yeah I don't think There needs to be A children's home

[01:37:55] On every street But we need more Government run Children's homes Where people are Properly vetted And there's proper standards But it's We're in a system Where it's like Where's the fucking money For anything And there's Just things fall Through the cracks And I think children Are some of the first People to fall Through the cracks Right Because they don't Kick up a faucet Power Yeah Because they have No power Yeah Yeah That made me Really depressed Thank you Laura For doing all that Research for us Bumming you out I mean yeah Of course Yeah but Thank you It's good to add context Because that is not

[01:38:25] Something that we did In either of our Two previous episodes I don't know if you Could make Tracy Beaker Now because of that Like because of This side of it Where it's like The state of Children's homes Is so different That I don't I don't know If it'd be made today But I think I think a new Tracy Beaker Would be useful Yeah I mean they They are still making The Tracy Beaker Franchise Is still alive But I don't Know Yeah the dumping Ground is still Going I think I'm not sure I think it is But yeah

[01:38:54] I just thought It was really good My favourite so far Yeah Really enjoyable I cried quite Consistently Yes I came in And Elsie's in the Corner of the couch Really small Red in the face Weeping And I'm like Okay Yeah that would Have been the Jackie and her Grandad storyline Probably I just left And I think It's also the funniest Oh that's so mean Why didn't I just Turn around and leave I didn't say nothing But there was Nothing I could do I can't give Jackie A home It's the past

[01:39:24] It's fictional It's the funniest Series so far Yes I agree Yeah I think I enjoyed This season the most Of all the seasons We've watched so I think it's only Going to get better I know the Beaker Club Didn't work out Like we thought it would Yeah You could say that Dolly But you really Are my hero Tracy Beaker So that's series Three Of Tracy Beaker Loved this series I Binged it In

[01:39:54] Two afternoons Yeah Does anyone have Any closing statements On that? I'm interested More so In this season Than the previous Two seasons To see where it goes Like I I'm excited For Because you've told me What's going to happen I'm excited To see The day when she Gets adopted Like I'm more excited At the end of this season Whoa Whoa Spoilers Yeah

[01:40:23] Like some of the other Seasons I'm like Oh I mean it was fun Whatever But now I'm like Yeah I really want to see Where her relationship With Cam goes Like I'm very excited To see that It's an interesting way To finish an episode That we started with Oh my god We've been nominated For another award And I was like Oh god The state of the country Is really bad We're a worthy podcast Now Yeah Yeah Jesus We're a serious podcast Maybe if we get more power When we do these serious bits

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[01:41:50] So we can't stop We're trapped We're trapped now I can't see a way out I don't know what to do I don't know what to do Keep going So yeah You know what would Actually really help us Because we fail to Mention this every time You can give us a review Imagine that Yeah Yeah just go onto Spotify and leave a comment Or wherever Rate the episode Or yeah Wherever you get your podcasts Wherever you get your podcasts I'm the only one over here Going

[01:42:18] I don't think you can rate podcasts On Apple Yeah you can What do you mean Of course you can I think that's new then You can because someone Has given us a one star rating That's right On Apple podcasts So we've got all five stars Apart from one one star And then I assume the same person Has said Very dull I think they said Yeah They called it very dull And I was like Who on Instagram Did I piss off With replying I mean we just listed Five minutes of statistics How can they say that Dull Okay

[01:42:48] Call me anything you like But dull It's mean isn't it Very mean You say many things to me And I'll be like You know Fair enough You don't find me funny That's fair You think I'm annoying That's fair Dull I take deep offence I've worked very hard To be interested She has gone She really has Just as well I'm staying Someone's got to look After this lot

[01:43:16] Well thank you for listening Go watch Tracey Beaker It's better as a grown up You won't regret it No it is It's much more dire As a grown up It's sad Have a great evening

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