Sitcom September - New Girl with Laurence Hisee & Nathan Bower (Another Happy Pod & Still Got Legs)

[00:00:14] and welcome to Fandomentals, the podcast that explores pop culture, one conversation at a time. I am your host, Harley.

[00:00:22] Every episode, I interview different people from around the world to discuss a variety of topics within the world of pop culture.

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[00:00:40] Welcome back to the second episode of Sitcom September 2024. In this episode, I'm joined by two returning guests of the podcast.

[00:00:50] It's Laurence Hisee and Nathan Bower, the hosts and creators of another Happy Pod and The Still Got Legs podcast.

[00:00:59] Both Laurence and Nathan have been on the show before but with their own individual episodes.

[00:01:04] So this is in fact the first time they have been on this podcast together and for this very special occasion, they've come on to talk about the modern classics at COM New Girl.

[00:01:14] A very simple show in its premise, Jess stayed played by Zoe Dessionale, has to restart her life after a breakup.

[00:01:21] So she ends up moving into a loft with a bunch of guys that she's never met before and Shenanigans into.

[00:01:26] It's a show that's full of hearts, it's full of great characters, amazing improvisation, some wonderful cameos and the crossover with another incredible sitcom, previously discussed on this podcast.

[00:01:38] There's so much that we get into in this episode, it's an wonderful show to discuss.

[00:01:43] I've had quite a lot of fun revisiting it off the back of this episode, so I hope you guys enjoy it.

[00:01:48] And if you want to go and check it out, it's available to stream right now.

[00:01:52] So with all that said, let's just get to the episode. This is New Girl with Laurence Hisee and Nathan Bower.

[00:02:08] Hello Laurence and Nathan and welcome back to the fundamentals podcast.

[00:02:12] Hello. Hello Harley. Thanks for having us back.

[00:02:15] Oh, it's a delight and have you back together as well? It's quite an interesting question.

[00:02:22] We have that we appear too many times together. Nathan, I must be like, I'm not sick of him. I feel like he might be sick of me.

[00:02:27] Definitely sick of you. Okay, nice. Appreciate it.

[00:02:30] 100 minutes. Nice.

[00:02:32] Okay, good to know. Good to know. Hopefully this can unite you guys as we're here with part of sitcoms at Timber and you've kindly come back to talk about a show that I know is close to both of you because you've referenced it a number of times.

[00:02:44] So I've listened to your shows and that is, of course, New Girl. So to kick us off. I'm genuinely curious for each of you. What was your introduction to this show?

[00:02:57] My introduction was I don't, I didn't want you when I initially had watched a, like a, I saw it being that of a size and stuff and then I watched an odd episode here or there but never really got to it.

[00:03:09] It was never really something that stood out to me and it wasn't until like I think it was 2019, 2018 probably 2019.

[00:03:22] Oh, where actually Lawrence and his other time, I was going to say fiancee but that's not true of the time girl for a year.

[00:03:29] Yeah, they were, they would talk about it quite a lot and I got like okay maybe maybe I should check this out and yeah I just binge it fell in love with it and then it's just one of those shows now that is just.

[00:03:44] It's pretty much on a constant repeat for me. It's a conference show massively so nice.

[00:03:50] It's obviously, I came through it, sorry. I came to it in the sense that like I'd watched so many sitcoms prior.

[00:03:59] Like my list was running dry. Like I've seen the office like five times as I can't keep just watching the office. I'd watch Parks and Rec, I'd naffin of convinced me to watch modern family.

[00:04:09] And at some where in the, I can't exactly remember when but somewhere in the midst of all that I saw it pop up on Netflix and I was like, right.

[00:04:16] What is this? I see it come up in like little clip compilation like you see on YouTube like unhinged do go moments. I can't still thinking about and I'm like, yeah, alright I'll watch it and then yeah and like,

[00:04:28] I said it's immediately just a, I think it's probably the easiest watch of any sitcom I've seen. It's so easy to throw this on and just kind of.

[00:04:37] Suddenly it's four hours later and you go, holy.

[00:04:40] Yeah, nice. Yeah, I agree. I agree.

[00:04:45] Yeah, I find that to be the case with this show. I think that's the good mark of any sitcom right is if you can just have it on and just enjoy it even as background, tele which.

[00:04:57] I feel like some people might think is a bit of an insult.

[00:05:00] I think no, and I think the nature of sitcoms is it's meant to be like you're dipping in out. Yeah.

[00:05:04] And you get some level of enjoyment whether you are like fully concentrating on it, buying into the characters, buying into the story arc, all of that stuff.

[00:05:11] It's not like game of Thrones or succession.

[00:05:14] Right, right, right. You need to be locked in. You need to be engaged.

[00:05:18] You need to know what the fuck going on. It's not like that all you can just drop in, drop out no matter what episode you drop in on.

[00:05:24] You'll understand what's going on. You'll have a great time and you're just easy viewing really.

[00:05:30] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[00:05:32] Yeah, I think I don't think it's an insult to it at all.

[00:05:35] Like the nature of the quality of the show or anything.

[00:05:39] I work from home and so often it's boring.

[00:05:42] When you're just kind of in your own space or the time and I don't take a lot of calls.

[00:05:46] Yeah.

[00:05:46] That's not really the nature of my work. So I'm just like, I'll put something on in the TV on the background.

[00:05:52] Yeah, sometimes it's great and it motivates you to get more work than a lot of the times you stop working entirely because you're like, oh, hi.

[00:05:58] It's a really good show. I'm really enjoying it.

[00:06:02] Hey, you're going to miss the Sunday if you're listening if you wonder why that video was late.

[00:06:07] It's not Lawrence's fault.

[00:06:09] You're blame Nugo.

[00:06:10] blame the show Nugo.

[00:06:15] Brilliant.

[00:06:16] Yeah, I fair enough. And it's was fascinating to me about this particular show is, um,

[00:06:22] yeah, just being one of the more modern shows that I've talked about as part of this ongoing series.

[00:06:28] I mean, I'm just looking at the dates now like 2011 to 2018 you're like,

[00:06:32] yeah, there's like a handful of shows that sort of really captivated people and I don't know about you.

[00:06:38] It feels like a modern classic. If it's a handful of shows you can reflect.

[00:06:41] You mentioned the US office, modern family things allow people to go, oh, yeah, yeah.

[00:06:44] Like that's, um, pop-tier great kind of sitcom, which is I think quite impressive, right,

[00:06:50] for a show to reach that at such an early stage.

[00:06:53] Usually things like this, the nature of anything of shows, film, music, whatever it is,

[00:07:00] needs a bit of time to mature before you kind of go, oh, yeah, this is a tane's classic status.

[00:07:05] Whereas I feel like this is for a lot of people is like, oh, no, it's already up there.

[00:07:09] Definitely. I think for this is the my new girl is kind of the last.

[00:07:14] Yeah, last grasp of that really. I feel like because of the last day of TV nowadays

[00:07:19] because there's so much stuff and it's all in different places. It's all streaming networks

[00:07:24] and you know, you don't have access to this streaming network. You have this one and that kind of stuff

[00:07:28] and sitcoms they don't really break free on streaming these days.

[00:07:32] It's not something that comes through like a classic sitcom as it come that aired 10 years ago

[00:07:37] and now is fully complete and up there.

[00:07:40] Sure, that'll do well. But starting out a new sitcom,

[00:07:42] that's not necessarily going to break through. So I think that new girl is kind of like one of the final ones

[00:07:49] to really, to really break through, to really hit through and to be that show that people can watch as a complete package

[00:07:56] is not going to be something that is for like a season two season to then get cancelled

[00:08:00] because no one watched it. That's the thing. They're not given the chance anymore.

[00:08:05] Like I remember watching, I never watched this one but I think you checked out how I met your father

[00:08:11] right now. Yeah, yeah, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it for the time it was on because it wasn't given enough of a chance.

[00:08:19] It was cancelled before it got to finish. Same happened with me with the Netflix came up with an original

[00:08:26] There's not time to go into all the internet of how ethical it is but Netflix made the show blockbuster.

[00:08:33] Yes, it's a sitcom as Randal Park was in it and it was like, it was nothing crazy but like out of all the sitcoms that you've probably spoken about on the show

[00:08:41] Harley, like how many times is a season one of a sitcom blown you away? It's normally the worst of all of them.

[00:08:48] Yeah, that's true. Yeah, and he's time to settle. Yeah. Yeah. But no one unfortunately just the landscape of TV

[00:08:54] like I said they're just not given the chance if they don't immediately resonate if they're suddenly not an immediate grab

[00:08:59] for like, enticing people to sign up for different services then they just go ah, we're not wasting another couple million on this.

[00:09:06] At that point, people always say you can skip season one of the office. You can skip season one of Marks and Rack and you can you shouldn't but you can

[00:09:13] Yeah, and you still get like a complete story and you enjoy it more basically because those seasons on the best

[00:09:20] But yeah, a margin of approximately cancel after one season we wouldn't have like some amazing comedy moments

[00:09:27] Some parks and wreck introduced us all to bench wars. Look at the greatest of course.

[00:09:32] I want to do an everything like that, you know. So yeah. Yeah, that's a very valid point actually. Yeah, I hadn't considered that but I think you're right. Yeah,

[00:09:40] it's definitely something about this sort of like 2010s era of comedy like as a canful of shows that like survived

[00:09:48] getting through and I think you're right. I think the age of streaming has a lot to answer for unfortunately in that regard of

[00:09:54] how much stuff as you say just survives the yeah, the streaming age and how much of it gets past season one of me some good examples.

[00:10:03] There as well like shows like you said that were like yeah kind of like they were fine but

[00:10:08] Nams the problem and they were just fine and he kind of didn't survive that initial thing.

[00:10:13] Although I would argue I would I will hands up has been a minute since I fully watched this entire show.

[00:10:19] I'm just why I mean you get to revisit it with you guys like from what I remember of season one.

[00:10:24] I thought it started quite strong like I would argue probably stronger than a lot of shows like it's still it was still finding its

[00:10:30] feet but like a lot of the core elements of what made it really good like I think about like you mentioned the office or parks and

[00:10:46] the main protagonist likable.

[00:10:48] Yeah, because you have them be like insufferable and annoying as I felt like you watch new girl and it's like from minute one pretty much all of the characters that are in this

[00:10:56] the show.

[00:10:58] That's them that's them established that's who they are and they don't change a huge amount apart from like the overarching

[00:11:04] growth obviously they have over the seasons if that makes sense.

[00:11:07] Definitely and I think that that also does speak to the same issue though because the thing with parks and wreck and the office

[00:11:15] is season ones of both those shows where limited runs in that it was like six or seven episodes.

[00:11:21] It was all filmed before the series aired and then it just just went out as a package whereas new girl was an ongoing show.

[00:11:29] So like the first four five six episodes would have been done before it aired but then it went on then it continued to air so people had a chance to respond to say what they liked to this show

[00:11:40] yeah, as could have doubt to that as well. So you have the chance to let the show grow as it aired which what clearly was beneficial because

[00:11:49] but you are right they're pretty much our fully formed characters right out of the gate though it's if you look at the show in season one to the final season there's not a huge amount of difference between the characters they are they do have like the same

[00:12:03] consistent you know themes and and characterisation throughout really yeah I think so I think the something a little fact I've started listening to Jake Johnson's podcast he's got a really funny comedy podcast called We're here to help.

[00:12:19] Yeah, where they take like calls from listeners and stuff but a lot of the time it pretty much always comes around somehow to new girl because it's Jake Johnson and he'll never be able to stop talking about new girl.

[00:12:30] Of course, but there's something that he did mention when they had max greenfield on who plays just met in the show and they spoke a lot about how in the early run the show.

[00:12:42] He is saying it's interesting to hear you guys say that because in the early run though the writers didn't know what they were making they just

[00:12:46] basically snatch the girl from 500 days of summer and when sick on sick on hopeless romantic sick on quirky fun girls.

[00:12:55] And they all of all of the guys on the show said like beyond our basic character traits we've got nothing and that they kind of all had a panic together and they said like if we want to be on this show if we want to

[00:13:08] We want this show to not get canceled so we can carry on feeding ourselves we all need to like get really good at improv and that's why the characters became so weirdly extravagant like from the get go because they were looking at what they had on the page.

[00:13:22] And obviously the writer started to adapt to fit their improv but they did a lot of reading and they weren't they went that's no this isn't funny that's what that's why they say lines weirdly and that's why they're so physical because they had some read what was on the page, but they had to also find a way to make it stick if that makes sense.

[00:13:38] That's really interesting and it makes a lot of sense because.

[00:13:42] Yeah, I feel like that's that's again a running thread that's quite nice and a lot of these shows that have talked about so far has been the idea of like best idea wins and with some shows like if you have talented actors that are good at improvising that are good at like you said physical comedy or ad libbing.

[00:13:58] That as a show you're smart to lean into that and they kind of let the actor find the character and then you just kind of write around that and especially when the premise of this like you say it's so simple where it's like.

[00:14:10] We've just got like you said the girl from 500 days of summer.

[00:14:14] We've got a lot of people who are in a sitcom like she's manic pixie dream girl in a loft with a couple of wacky guys.

[00:14:21] High drinks and so which is like a paper thin premise but if done in the right way with the right people can be really entertaining and really funny.

[00:14:29] You just I guess yeah maybe that's the trick right is you land the talent the people involved just run with that idea.

[00:14:37] Yeah, who wants to what writer looks at their show and it's like got too big of an ego to go like no I'd rather it was I'd rather we stuck with my worst idea.

[00:14:49] Yeah, I'm sure there's there's there's mountains of evidence like there are shows and films and all sorts that yeah.

[00:14:57] It doesn't make it right it doesn't make it the right way to do it that's true I mean there there is a universe for this goes horribly wrong.

[00:15:05] Right well like yeah the actors just aren't good and you just kind of like oh no and it just ends up very quickly falling off a cliff.

[00:15:15] I mean this happened there'll be tons of examples of you know it comes like that which just never get off the start and foot basically.

[00:15:24] But yeah thankfully this one did and I learned it said amazingly talented cast of in like everyone just really really gives it a role.

[00:15:31] Lamar Morris who plays Winston he has just such a just an incredible.

[00:15:37] And I don't even know how described it stood a natural.

[00:15:40] Commit they're quite a complete idea really yeah yeah and it's just like I was watching episode earlier it's just the way that he like sometimes.

[00:15:49] Say things but doesn't even finish what he's saying which just makes it so awkward like whenever he like he's saying something which clearly isn't true and then he gets caught out for it just kind of awkwardly goes like.

[00:16:00] Ah is it in that same.

[00:16:07] What the.

[00:16:09] What oh that.

[00:16:11] So ah.

[00:16:12] That's a project.

[00:16:13] And for that guy's all to jump in like after the pilot episode.

[00:16:17] Yeah yeah.

[00:16:18] But like you say like find a character that is absolutely ridiculous and hilarious and yeah I always like to talk about characters on this these episodes so yeah I think that's a great point to jump off definitely Winston as a.

[00:16:32] Throne in the deep end person 100% yeah I'm with you definitely has some other best moments for me as someone who enjoys practical jokes and we'll get on to that with nearly.

[00:16:44] The fact that he just his character is like the opposite like he does not fundamentally does not understand.

[00:16:51] Okay thanks work.

[00:16:54] Really enjoy that run or guys I'm not gonna lie it's a great one it's a great one and he's in the use you have some for it as well the way he plays that office.

[00:17:01] Yeah that's one of my favorite quotes is just the I think it's Jake Johnson's delivery but like yeah Winston's talking about a prank well because the joke is obviously he either goes way too far for it's like a perfectly offensive or so underbaked that no one will even know if something's happened.

[00:17:18] And in this specific instance he's like why don't we get a like a bunch of little bits of paper and put it near his car.

[00:17:24] And and and the way Jake Johnson just delivered like that's not a prank that's just sort of littering.

[00:17:31] It's so funny.

[00:17:37] Tonight I'm pranks a notch no no you didn't play a you were the worst prankster in the world every prank you do turns out either too big.

[00:17:47] What is this?

[00:17:49] Did you register me as a sex offender or too small?

[00:17:56] Have this blooper again here.

[00:18:03] You should have saw your face he didn't that see that coming.

[00:18:08] It's true it's true.

[00:18:10] I think Rochip had a rindy but as like C.C's wedding and he's just like in the fence for the batcha and you're just like wait what what's going on and it's just again it's his.

[00:18:21] I'm proud of Stoosiaz and for like how excited he has to be doing a prank and you're like yeah the ridiculousness of that character I think is absolutely awesome.

[00:18:29] And again the set up of him of like being a professional basketball player like oh like in Latvia.

[00:18:35] Oh yeah.

[00:18:39] Character specifics in in comedy I think is always the best right.

[00:18:43] He's a very good person like like let's make it really specific now he won't just be a pro basketball player will make him a pro basketball player in a tiny tiny country that very few people have heard of.

[00:18:53] Yeah I think there's even there's even a bit where you see him play some basketball and they don't even try and make him like be good like they're.

[00:19:03] Yeah yeah.

[00:19:05] That's so true.

[00:19:07] I think they've all got amazing quirks to them like there's these constant little tiny details that are like amazingly consistent for how many writers come and go.

[00:19:18] Yeah shows but like the fact that Nick can't lie or he if he lies he gets really sweaty like to the point where he's like soaking where in the mid conversation like that those are the kind of time like you say tiny details that just make you go like how can you not love a character this student really.

[00:19:36] Yeah yeah totally I mean yeah they're all fascinating to look at in different ways I mean I jump into Nick Miller for sure I mean like he's an interesting one right because.

[00:19:49] So I'm heading into my 30s now and there's something about you know when you see a character that like his his whole thing is you know if if just day you know Jerry Zoe to Chanel is like the manic pixie dream girl Winston's the kind of.

[00:20:04] I heard athlete slash wacky side character Nick is the guy that never grew up.

[00:20:11] Yeah but there's something weirdly endearing of all of that like he has the personality of a 53 year old but none of the life skills and I kind of love that again that that juxtaposition in one person is I think is hilarious.

[00:20:26] I just want to say publicly that I'm an idiot I'm very poor.

[00:20:32] Having a check in a cow would be an honor.

[00:20:34] I'm a writer I've written a zombie book.

[00:20:37] It's terrible.

[00:20:39] I'm a slow runner.

[00:20:41] Nick is a great character yes so many great just like off the cuff lines that Jake Johnson delivers perfectly.

[00:20:48] I remember the exact line but there's something like to the effect of when when Jess is I think this is a runner about like season two or something and when Jess is dating like some older like fancy guy what's his name.

[00:21:03] Oh another guy you mean I can't.

[00:21:05] Yeah yeah he's like he's like very well to do he's like got a like a real job I think his kid is a like Jess is cool or something like that.

[00:21:13] Yeah I don't know if she's dating him and and she she just says like Nick is spending his entire evening because I'm having the drink together just basically copying what this guy is doing just emitting in.

[00:21:25] Because he just enamors him he looks up to him he idealizes him so much and then Jess calls him out and says Nick stop copying him and he just quietly goes I'm not copying him I'm in love with him.

[00:21:36] He just quietly off the cuff.

[00:21:41] And the just the way Jake Johnson delivers it is just so.

[00:21:45] Yeah they do that they take they take but he he especially takes lines there could be like they could fall flat on their face.

[00:21:53] But yeah they just elevates them with the line deliveries some endless endlessly quotable show I think but yeah anyway Nick sorry.

[00:22:05] I'm just I literally so I've pulled up a buzzfeed article of the 74 best lines from Nick Miller and just scrolling through like some of these like you said are.

[00:22:17] Just remarkable I mean number three you treat an outside wound with rubbing alcohol you treat an inside wound with drinking alcohol it's science.

[00:22:24] It's just such a great bit of a thing.

[00:22:28] So.

[00:22:30] Why not one of my personal favorites is you don't you don't wash a towel the towel wash.

[00:22:35] Yes.

[00:22:36] What are you going to do next? Wash the shower.

[00:22:40] Yeah.

[00:22:41] It's it's stuff like that like the idea of just an a human adult man reaching that point of like.

[00:22:49] Just yeah being on your own having your own life but being so dysfunctional.

[00:22:54] But yeah like you said every time he's challenged on it he comes back with something that you're like.

[00:22:59] That's so flawed but the way he delivers it was such a competency like.

[00:23:04] I kind of understand what you're coming from.

[00:23:07] Stop it means to me I'm going to fall in love with you.

[00:23:10] Yes.

[00:23:11] Isn't that just so relatable.

[00:23:15] Yeah, yeah.

[00:23:17] To me is one of my favorite aspects of it because then you've had that with like he's his his college like the on body.

[00:23:24] Uh, was was Smith and the way that their two characters their dynamic like he admits a way more of like a.

[00:23:32] A cardigan wearing well to do kind of he's got an important job the way not not an important job but like a.

[00:23:39] A job that keeps him working is a busy professional and then next got like a box of envelopes of bills and he's like I don't know what to do with these.

[00:23:46] I see you remember an episode at some point down the line where like there's a whole thing where just tries to get him to open a bank account.

[00:23:57] Yeah, but just a single bank account and it becomes a whole thing.

[00:24:01] Have you imagine what actually breaks them up is a man.

[00:24:03] That's right.

[00:24:05] Yeah.

[00:24:05] That's something of an into them breaking up as a couple.

[00:24:09] But bank is just a paper bag with fancy or what?

[00:24:13] It's just it's just remarkable.

[00:24:17] But again, yeah, if I've had the Jake Johnson like you said like delivering all of these absolutely absurd lines.

[00:24:23] Hmm but with the absolute best delivery like you said like in a way that it's just always always likeable.

[00:24:30] You know what I mean? I like you never really feel any sort of negative way about him even when he's being really obnoxious or ridiculous.

[00:24:36] He's just kind of endearing the way I look at him is like the you know when like dogs get older and they get a bit more grumpy.

[00:24:44] And then you introduce like a younger dog into the family and like this younger dog is kind of more bouncy and the grumpy dog puts up with it.

[00:24:52] And like if that grumpy dog is ever annoyed at you, you can't ever like even though you look at them, you're being ridiculous.

[00:24:59] You can't ever be cross at them because they're so helpless as an animal.

[00:25:03] Like that's what Nick is where he's like he can be cross and he can sit with his weird little beliefs and like he doesn't want over a bank account because of the man or whatever he says.

[00:25:16] But then like you just look at him, you're gonna have to pity you because of your worldview is so limited but if you're happy, then you're happy kind of thing.

[00:25:24] Yeah. So what do you guys make of then of on that note of this sort of classic sitcom trope with him and and Jess being the will they won't make a couple, would you make of that?

[00:25:35] I love it. I think I feel like that's something you need in a sitcom.

[00:25:39] Like it is it is often one of the most criticized parts of a sitcom. I feel like people get kind of bored and frustrated with it because we know we've seen over again.

[00:25:47] It's Ross and Rachel, those German pamids it's whoever. But it is such a fundamental part of the sitcom though it is something that's needed.

[00:25:57] We've out it. I don't think you have a sitcom personally and I think you can just you do roof them because they're both so messed up. They're both so weird. They're both such strange characters and the their relationship.

[00:26:11] Is it healthy? I don't know but you make sense to see those two characters together. You know they do weirdly belong with each other.

[00:26:20] Right, what do you think Lawrence?

[00:26:23] I think it's maybe I'm gonna be controversial but it's my least favorite part of the show.

[00:26:31] Okay, the Nick and Jess thing because I think that um it I think they they spend their capital with it too early and then the show waits like two more seasons to make it the end game.

[00:26:46] Like for me it's every I like those two characters but when they come together I find some other time they write just to be a little bit more

[00:27:00] A accommodating of Nick's more odd tendencies like Jess Jess just for me feels like a character that they write her to be a bit less intelligent when she's with Nick because

[00:27:13] How could any normal person put up with Nick in a relationship on a day to day basis.

[00:27:18] But I don't think that all the romance in the show is handled that way. I think the the CC and Schmidt relationship is that's that's my favorite component of the entire show.

[00:27:29] So so I don't know it's weird, maybe it's just me but I think that they take a bit too long with Jess and Nick and I like that they would see the inch mitt. They get the typical stuff that you would expect the Nick and Jess storylines to have like they get the marriage season.

[00:27:43] They get the kids season and they get like all of those extra plot lines whereas for a long time Nick and Jess are kind of twiddling their thumbs going.

[00:27:52] The will they won't name for like seven seasons is just a bit too long of a will they won't name for me.

[00:27:57] But that's that's this that come trope though that's what you know because like as soon as they as soon as you have the will they weren't they oh they do then people drop off in views.

[00:28:07] And that's like oh well I'm sitting here to know time to move on and I get there, but I think they balance that nicely by giving us the CC and Schmidt will because they have a quick rule they won't name.

[00:28:17] But then through around about season five they go like nowhere locked in where might be season four even we're locked in and we're done.

[00:28:23] We can have both you don't need none of them.

[00:28:26] I don't disagree with that but I think one of them is handled better, but that again that is preference that's just kind of the way I look at.

[00:28:33] I think you're wrong and I'm gonna find.

[00:28:36] Here we go guys, you're so employee me.

[00:28:40] Yeah, I said fight first of all.

[00:28:43] Oh, I did not say fine you might win that one then that's fine.

[00:28:47] It's only clear I kind of do employ you a little bit.

[00:28:49] We employ each other it's a mutual thing okay.

[00:28:54] You just happen to know the passwords that I don't know.

[00:29:01] Everyone listening this is this is why I brought them on.

[00:29:05] I don't actually want to talk about the show I just want to see it.

[00:29:09] Steering the pot.

[00:29:11] We try and be more professional on other people's shows it's not gone well so far.

[00:29:17] It's because I know which buttons to press.

[00:29:19] Yeah, that's fine.

[00:29:20] So happens when you're a fan anyway moving on.

[00:29:24] Yeah, no, no, I do agree.

[00:29:25] I think it's it's valid to bring up because I happen to agree with both of you that's

[00:29:29] the thing like to sit on the fence as I often do.

[00:29:32] Like I genuinely that's my role but I also do think as a valet point to it like I do agree

[00:29:37] with you, Lawrence, I do think it is dragged on a bit too long with both of them.

[00:29:42] But to me, this is like yeah there was a bit of that sometimes unfortunately

[00:29:47] the element of the trap that sort of most it comes forward into like yeah

[00:29:55] right until the last minute of the last episode even.

[00:30:00] But then you can also contrast that with we mentioned parks and racking the office where you're like

[00:30:03] but they mean character gets together.

[00:30:05] But then the background you've got you know you're sort of

[00:30:09] quite an angel or for example in the office of like yeah but then they become the

[00:30:13] well they weren't they couple and so I think every everyone has that right,

[00:30:17] every show seems to have that.

[00:30:19] You'll have one constant and in this case I'd say it's the kind of

[00:30:23] PC and Schmidt thing is like that's the sort of dark horse couple that actually

[00:30:29] like before you know it you're like oh we're following them now on the typical

[00:30:32] yeah arc that most people go through.

[00:30:35] Whereas yeah as you say Jess and Nick are actually the ones that sort of struggle with it

[00:30:41] and yeah I'm with you, I think it's a valet point to bring up definitely.

[00:30:47] I'm with you though as well like in the whole like I don't understand how they work but they just do

[00:30:52] a bit like there's an element to it like I think maybe the nature of her being a school teacher

[00:30:55] helps of like she's just naturally quite patient.

[00:30:58] Oh yeah and Nick is a man child so he needs somebody to kind of like

[00:31:02] nurture that in him in some way or another.

[00:31:06] Until no who that reminds me of yeah shut up.

[00:31:11] And then it moving swiftly on yeah it's interesting I guess we can go kind of jump to

[00:31:16] Jess Day I mean like you said she is the selling point like she's the main actor she's the main

[00:31:22] person of the show she's the lead.

[00:31:24] What do you guys make of the sort of Jess Day character because I feel like there's something that

[00:31:29] some people struggle with with Zoe Desheno as a person is her sort of being cast as the

[00:31:36] man and he takes a dream go on everything which I think again is a valid criticism.

[00:31:41] But she does it very well I don't know about you guys I kind of yeah.

[00:31:45] So Editioner definitely has like a bit of baggage with her in that you you're right she is the

[00:31:52] Manic Pixie dream girl she's so quirky and she's playing the ukulele and she's got bows

[00:31:57] in her hair and all this kind of stuff she's such a a little indie dream.

[00:32:03] Whereas that you can't help in some certain respects look at that and just think God that's annoying

[00:32:08] but you're right she does do it so well she there's a certain endearing charm about Jess

[00:32:15] which so Editioner brings to the character it's so yeah I can't quite explain what it is

[00:32:20] but I feel like any of her actress play in this role just wouldn't hate it like so Editioner does

[00:32:25] it's the character is built for her and she does it very well I say I have something to say to you man

[00:32:32] what I break for birds I rock a lot of polka dots I have such glitter in the last 24 hours

[00:32:41] I spend my entire day talking to children and I find it fundamentally strange that you're not a

[00:32:48] dessert person that's just weird and it freaks me out and I'm sorry I don't talk like Murphy Brown

[00:32:53] and I hate your pant suit I wish it had ribbons on it or something to make it just slightly

[00:32:58] cuter and that doesn't mean I'm not smart and tough and strong. I think you get that like especially

[00:33:05] in there's there's a better part of a season or half a season where Zoey Desh now is

[00:33:12] written out because I think she was on maternity leave and they they kind of replace her with

[00:33:18] Megan Fox for the long time playing again and literally a fill in slot they make her nicks love

[00:33:25] and I think while Megan Fox what she does bring to the show is interesting it just doesn't

[00:33:31] land the same you do need someone like Zoey Desh now to bring this together I think as the glue

[00:33:37] and I think what the show does quite intelligently is they they understand that that can be

[00:33:45] frustrating that she can't as a protagonist she can be a bit like okay this is this is getting a bit

[00:33:50] a lot now this is a bit too much 2012 tumblr kind of vibes for me and they they surround

[00:33:57] the character of Jess with a bunch of other characters that are always going like why do you

[00:34:03] behave like this why do you do this and they they poking it and I I realized this when I was

[00:34:08] watching this might be a bit of a tangent sorry I realized this while watching a show called Emily

[00:34:13] Paris recently where not good mostly racist yeah but again it's kind of one of them trash shows

[00:34:26] I just had on and I was like whatever and watching it the character of Emily is is this character

[00:34:34] that goes around and she's so self assured and so I'm the smart American you've brought in to

[00:34:40] manage your jobs in Paris because you guys don't know what you're doing and she's so self assured

[00:34:46] and so locked into how the character is written that the show doesn't realize how unlikely

[00:34:53] all the character can be and and all the all the characters that are from Paris in the show they're

[00:35:00] falling over backwards to say oh thank god the American has shown up and thank god thank god

[00:35:05] everything Emily does is the paragon of good and truth and we should all aspire to be more like her

[00:35:11] and I think this show in Newgo it could have easily fallen into that if everyone was so accommodating

[00:35:18] of Jess's quirks right it would be a very tough to watch show because you constantly be going

[00:35:22] like but why realistically why don't people grow up and just don't go and do the sensible option

[00:35:26] and then before you know it shmit of all characters as walked in or CC has walked in and given

[00:35:32] Jess advice that normal people would give to a character like that and you'd go oh thank god I

[00:35:36] can get back on board with this again um they are no sorry Emily and Paris tangent over but it's

[00:35:43] I just think it's an interesting aspect of how how this could have gone wrong but it works yeah

[00:35:48] yeah surprisingly totally yeah it's a fair tangent a fair comparison yeah yeah the other

[00:35:54] characters do helps kind of like keep her quirks online I always remember one joke that stands out is when

[00:35:59] she may say something to the effect of like he had a he had like a two week ban in the loft on

[00:36:04] high-waisted shorts and like Jess says like that was her nightmare or something like that yeah

[00:36:14] yeah just so fun such as you've been sure it's so good though I mean and that I think that does

[00:36:22] I mean yeah to jump across to my personal MVP of the show I mean I will say this I think they're all

[00:36:28] equally great like they're all fantastic like you've mentioned so far like every actor,

[00:36:32] every character and flipping it out but they're all brilliant but for me Max Greenfeldishmit is just like

[00:36:39] I think like every sitcom needs like your quirky character like the one that's oddly specific

[00:36:48] has all these stuff good but it's also usually they're the ones that are very high functioning like

[00:36:53] now that I think about it you know I think about like white for example in the office or yeah

[00:36:59] Ron Swanson from Parks and Rec. I was just thinking about that.

[00:37:02] Oh like a frame or from Sinchelle or even like to some extent actually I was going to say Joey but

[00:37:09] that's not quite correct more Phoebe probably like these characters that are like quirky and weird

[00:37:15] but do well for themselves and like in their life that you know whilst the other characters are

[00:37:20] kind of floundering and like like you discuss probably going through the will they won't

[00:37:24] they have a crisis or they're like what do I do this character is just sailing on by and like they

[00:37:29] know what they want even if at times it seems a bit selfish or a bit strange or like what are they

[00:37:36] doing but they just they seem pretty confident and solid in themselves and Schmidt I think is a

[00:37:41] great example of that right of just this character that's at at a time's very of notchious and very annoying

[00:37:47] but also like he gets stuff done and he talks a lot of sense and he has a lot of

[00:37:53] quirks but he's ultimately very likable at the same time yeah 100% he gets more like what I like

[00:38:01] that the show adapted his character slightly because he in the first couple of episodes he's

[00:38:06] quite clearly written to be like the sleazy womanizer like obsessed with his image and then they kind

[00:38:13] meld that into a far more um uh conscious view of the same character where they still

[00:38:21] make sure it attempt to be a womanizer but now the women understand that he's an idiot and like

[00:38:27] and like he he's not constantly talking about his body when he is everyone else is looking

[00:38:33] going what a creep this guy is not that the nalata we're not talking about coffee are we yeah and I

[00:38:43] I like that completely I agree with you I he's my MVP of the show as well I think he's in terms

[00:38:49] of like comedy he is like sounds hyperbolic but he's like a generational talent like he's so funny

[00:38:57] like he he can take a line that is absolutely nothing just a normal set like like he says mango

[00:39:04] chutney and for some reason it's one of the most incredible quotes of the entire show because just

[00:39:08] because he's he changed it to say chutney like a silly person and it like if you can do that with with

[00:39:15] two words that's that's a different level I think yeah that's that's very very well said and

[00:39:24] yeah I think that the fact that he is quite a notch as characters you say like lends to him just

[00:39:29] saying outlandish things or ridiculous things or like I'm just again just pulling up another quote from

[00:39:35] scarymummy.com which I yeah feels like I'm gonna have a virus but we'll see the second quote is

[00:39:43] Judaism's son which is such a good as I read it I'm like and I say it like that I'm buttering it

[00:39:50] but it's again you're like he can get away with it has that character just an element of his

[00:39:55] character and the way he delivers that it's so like that's so ridiculous but also it fits the character

[00:40:01] so well that you're just like yeah obviously he say that well I'm now reminded of the whole

[00:40:05] episode where he turns 29 and he spends the whole episode going 20 new and you're like

[00:40:10] but it's brilliant and again like any other show any of the characters but like oh this is

[00:40:15] grating on me now this is so irritating but it's endearing it's just endearing yes there's

[00:40:21] an episode I honestly think it might be the first episode of it up my head I think it might

[00:40:26] actually be the pilot episode but what a moment where I just fell in love with his character because

[00:40:31] just such a good delivery is where he like walks out into the living room he's wearing a silk

[00:40:36] kimono which stops like just above mid-file and then he just says Friday and I fell as it's

[00:40:43] one just like a layer of it's I do love shmits so much he's such a and Max Greenfield you're right

[00:40:56] he is such a generation what's happened the way he the his delivery on certain lines it's just

[00:41:02] it's just so incredible so hilarious what does he say it's the one thing he he mentioned

[00:41:08] the podcast about like something he regrets about new go on Jake Johnson's podcast

[00:41:14] or might have been the monster podcast but at some point he said he really regretted

[00:41:19] that he always intentionally said Nick as he would say Nick like you know like he would really

[00:41:26] a non-save weird parts of the word Nick yes and he said like I just regret it doing it because

[00:41:33] he became so annoying after all but it's yeah man I think his commitment to somehow being the most

[00:41:43] switched on out of the loft but also so painfully unaware of how absurd he is like I feel

[00:41:51] people know characters like this like I think that's a strong point of the show is that

[00:41:57] everyone knows someone of a similar vibe to someone like this like these characters like I don't know

[00:42:04] I just I can I I know someone that reminds me of some here quite a lot because he's quite

[00:42:09] pedantic about specific things and like he's he can be very kind of um I had very specific about

[00:42:16] like it was what he wants in certain aspects and you just I don't know it's very relatable it's fun

[00:42:21] these characters I found this on the street who would want to throw this away a blind man who suddenly

[00:42:26] recovered his sight get rid of a chest pine has no place in his loft it's the wood of poor people and

[00:42:32] outhouses yeah I mean that's an element of all of this right is is you're putting a bunch of people

[00:42:37] together and I think about you guys I always feel like the group dynamic of a sitcom like this is so

[00:42:44] important like if the chemistry is not there it makes it hard to watch right like if you're just sort

[00:42:49] watching a bunch of people trying to figure each other out I think that's probably what goes

[00:42:52] back to what we were saying earlier of the the first season of a show right is it's the actors as

[00:42:57] much as the writing kind of suscing each other out as you get more and more into it if got to

[00:43:03] have that good rapport and in this premise given that just is the outside character and the other

[00:43:08] three of supposedly been living together as just friends for the last couple of years you want them

[00:43:14] to have that right you want them to have that yeah that connection that chemistry and like you

[00:43:18] mentioned earlier with like Nick and Schmidt for example being like college friends like

[00:43:22] well hopefully they've got good chemistry you know hopefully they know the ins and outs of each other

[00:43:27] and it's supposed to know each other so well that like they know how to be I guess you know good

[00:43:35] friends to each other because they are like there's lots of heartfelt moments but also how to get

[00:43:38] under each other skin in just the right way like the only way that good friends can right

[00:43:43] I'm just going to say I think that's really one of the magic moments or not magic moments just

[00:43:50] though one of the Mad truly magical things about the show is yes you have Max Greenfield who is

[00:43:56] incredible yes you have Jake Johnson who is also incredible put them together you've got one

[00:44:00] of the best of the acts yeah just Nick and Schmidt as a pairing together just seeing them interact

[00:44:07] over things it's so hilarious because you're right they are best friends they true they do truly

[00:44:12] love each other but they also have this they know how to get under each other skin they know how

[00:44:19] to make one another angry and just seeing them argue and bigger about just the most petty little

[00:44:24] things it always just brings you to tears just like when when Schmidt walks and he's like hey I

[00:44:30] got you a cookie because I was thinking about you and Nick just completely freak so about that

[00:44:37] I'll sav more understand why it happened and the whole thing that leads to it's so good they

[00:44:43] work so well together yeah but there's um god what is it that he says to Nick has an amazing line

[00:44:51] to intimidate after it I can't remember exactly what Schmidt says but there's just a pause

[00:44:55] where normally like a kind of an argument with it's you between them and and the way Jake Johnson

[00:45:00] just goes like when did you you used to be you've got so much worse like when did when did

[00:45:05] when did this happen when did you change like this and it's it's brilliant and just that yeah

[00:45:12] they're so it's like it always reminds me of not the same similar dynamic but the the the

[00:45:18] the amazing juxtaposition how well it works in parks and rick to have um Leslie knows

[00:45:23] has this kind of government enthusiasts who who wants her whole life to run for office

[00:45:28] and then a libertarian runs once and who wants yeah and praise for the government's demise at

[00:45:34] return like it's yeah it's such a clever pairing like Nathan said one of the best

[00:45:38] double X in any suit for my thing one of my favorite moments of the show is like the basic

[00:45:43] premises just his day in a guy and she wants to bring him back to the loft and this is after Nick

[00:45:48] and Jess have broken up yeah so she tells the guy hey I live with my ex but it's okay because he's

[00:45:55] gay okay so Nick has to pretend to be gay and then this guy he like he doesn't quite buy it because

[00:46:02] is quite which is a bit problematic but whatever and he doesn't quite buy it but then Schmidt comes home

[00:46:09] and he's just talking to Nick and they're just having like an argument and make up but because

[00:46:14] that argument Schmidt has no idea what's going on but just because he plays it so straight and so

[00:46:20] seriously like oh yeah they are gay they're in love with each other yes they just have a genuinely

[00:46:27] heart woman moment where they make up and it's beautiful but also hilarious at the same time

[00:46:32] it's so good yeah well my friends call me gay Nick yeah that's so good

[00:46:41] Nick you're gay you're gay be gay be gay be gay

[00:46:46] I just had to make sure these animals blocks not you if the city is quen

[00:46:52] you must be Nick well friends call me gay Nick yeah it's sorry it's sorry for

[00:46:59] okay I feel like that's the good sort of writing and the good dynamic right of all those

[00:47:04] kind of shows we have a good yes yeah it gets sort of bromance or whatever you know

[00:47:09] his characters like they're so they are such good friends that you're like in another show

[00:47:14] and then the life you could almost buy that that they were like yeah they would just be a couple

[00:47:18] yeah each other up but it's you've got to have that kind of understanding of each other in order

[00:47:23] for it to work in front to just play out the way it does and like you say I think they're

[00:47:27] then being like such polar opposites in personalities like you said like we said earlier like Nick is

[00:47:33] the kind of man-child for intense and purposes it wasn't how to function as an adult

[00:47:38] brishmit is like hyper functioning and you know and we learn interestingly in flashbacks you know

[00:47:44] like that he's deeply insecure about a lot of himself and like he's just he's very clearly overcompensating

[00:47:51] in a lot of his adult life yeah it's kind of cool right that it makes sense yeah yeah these two

[00:47:56] would be friends because they're going to bounce off each other but also they're going to

[00:47:59] win each other up because I think that's why it works that's why the bickering and all that

[00:48:04] animosity and see in them play your work so well is because there is also a genuine friendship

[00:48:09] there there is also like genuine love between them which is which is just heartwarming

[00:48:15] right I always appreciate that it's not like Schmidt has to fix his grubby friend

[00:48:20] up as well as this there's the subplot where they buy like a really minority they split

[00:48:24] a minority share in a bar and then so they have to run it because when you look at that deal

[00:48:31] they get so screwed into oblivion but like yeah it's it's very funny that like the Nick gets

[00:48:38] bartending and Schmidt gets business and like good business sense but when they try to apply

[00:48:44] Schmidt's ideals to it like Nick's like no you actually have a thing or two to learn in this scenario

[00:48:50] so it would be very easy for them to constantly be like come on Nick let's get you a bank account

[00:48:56] let's let's smarten you up you got to wear a shirt from time to time but it's it both of them

[00:49:01] are treated with equal respect in the writing which just makes it like there are some instances where

[00:49:06] Schmidt is acting completely absurd and then Nick is the straight man which is unbelievable to say

[00:49:13] that Nick Miller would be the straight man to anyone yeah it works they flip that that's no character

[00:49:18] is set in the show they constantly are each other's straight men or the the opposite it's very

[00:49:23] very fluid in that respect yeah well said well said I like that how about Hannah Simone is sort of

[00:49:31] C.C. because I feel like this is an interesting one to bring up right I mean like you mentioned earlier

[00:49:36] that her and Schmidt having the this sort of typical arc that a couple does you know in these

[00:49:44] kind of shows but also the dynamic of her being just as best friend I thought what do you make of all

[00:49:48] of that I love C.C. I think kind of Simone does a great job she is kind of like yeah she starts

[00:49:54] off as kind of like a side character and as the show goes on she does become more involved and gets

[00:50:00] elevated to that kind of like main character main cast stars um which I think should have been done earlier

[00:50:07] to be honest because yeah I would obviously her relationship with Schmidt is very interesting her relationship

[00:50:13] with Jess is is very interesting like the way they often blindly support each other at times

[00:50:19] is very fun and the whole girl fight thing where like um they have the fight but don't say anything

[00:50:25] about the fight is always cool very funny and stuff and but I love her relationship with Winston

[00:50:32] the way that relationship evolves and the way that he's you know both a best man and a

[00:50:38] groomsman and there are a brides made or how well however you say it for a fisherman and C.C.

[00:50:43] he's aware then is it is beautiful and I love their relationship I think it's hilarious

[00:50:48] yeah I think she's unfortunately I think she's the kind of the through the writing she

[00:50:55] kind of gets sidesteped so quite a lot like she's not given as many of the main plotlines and kind of

[00:51:02] beyond the relationship with which may obviously but like she when it comes to like working with

[00:51:10] minimum she's incredible like she's a really warm character that is constantly there to be like

[00:51:16] the best friend to Jess or like the loving partner to Schmidt I wish we get to later

[00:51:21] seasons do explore her a bit better I think they they when they start the the modeling like C.C.C's

[00:51:27] business like it starts to explore that she's kind of what what does a model do once the

[00:51:33] work starts to dry up and that that's that's all quite interesting and I like that there's

[00:51:39] there's a chance to kind of flesh her out a bit more but um that the the show kind of keeps her

[00:51:46] arms length for like Nathan said maybe a bit too long where she she doesn't live in the loft

[00:51:50] then she's not quite as wacky in absurd as the other characters are because she's the straight

[00:51:56] man to Jess for a quite a lot of it and Jess is the wacky one in that relationship and all of this so

[00:52:01] I when she's given good stuff I really like her character but unfortunately I do think that's

[00:52:06] one of the downfalls of the show that they kind of took a bit too long to realize what they had with her

[00:52:12] and even though they rectify it in later seasons it's a shame that it takes them that long

[00:52:17] to get around to that hmm that's fair point yeah I I wonder if part of that has to do with the fact

[00:52:23] they got her and Schmidt together so quickly because if I remember cutting things like almost by

[00:52:27] the end of season one they have to break up because it's like it's a little bit like oh we've

[00:52:32] gotten to get oh maybe he didn't season two but it's like we've gotten together quite quickly

[00:52:36] in order to have this sort of go on for a bit longer this sort of just do that

[00:52:43] and then her character gets sideline from there a little bit and you don't sort of see her as

[00:52:47] much because it's a bit awkward and whereas you know maybe if they hadn't had done that you might

[00:52:51] seen her a bit more and maybe given her a little bit more of an arc before making that happen

[00:52:56] well that that's kind of I don't know for me that's kind of one of the the fun parts of the show

[00:53:01] is that they yeah right okay maybe it's you know with with the will they won't they there's

[00:53:07] in the in the won't they kind of sections of the show they they have really fun moments where

[00:53:12] they recycle a lot of like yes characters to come in because they get to have their kind of

[00:53:18] six episode run as being Jess or CC's boyfriend and I think you know while it's a little bit like

[00:53:25] maybe it just shouldn't be the women that have the revolving door of cast members come through

[00:53:31] there is something really interesting about that kind of mechanic of just refreshing the vibe

[00:53:36] every once in a while um so I think because it's because Hannah Hannah CC has the her boyfriend

[00:53:45] Robbie for some time and he becomes one of the best side characters on the show that just

[00:53:49] the Robbie's a great character he's so funny man he's so funny so good it was he like

[00:53:55] and then him and Schmidt kind of former an alliance of like one day one of us will end up with CC

[00:54:02] really funny right yeah and doesn't he start dating Jess and then they find out they're related

[00:54:07] yeah yeah that's right that's very easy very very fun but yeah I am just in long comes by

[00:54:16] for a quick run he's he's amazing he's very just in long just in long is the um he's the one

[00:54:25] which Jess spanks and he goes oh I've been a baro. Oh yes yeah of course um

[00:54:30] glad that that's on a recording oh day now I know I can play in lieu of a beep sign

[00:54:42] effects

[00:54:48] that's so good I've also I've got I am Dbe in front of me some looking at the cast which reminds

[00:54:52] me QI and Dbe in jiggle that I have definitely written by the time of recording this

[00:55:00] something's worth it

[00:55:14] I tell you what Harley that was the best jingle I've ever heard like our

[00:55:22] so good right that was really good I loved it you never ever thought I got a full orchestra for

[00:55:30] the connections you may have to do in two festivals

[00:55:36] why don't I do this to myself I was just having a look at the characters yeah I forgot

[00:55:42] Justin Long was in this I forgot so much of this yeah I get I need to really watch this I mean Rob

[00:55:47] Reiner showing off as Jess is dad is like what I get and I'm genuinely curious as well I like that's

[00:55:55] that's that's stunt casting if I've ever seen it yeah and again they all everyone I

[00:56:01] feel like everybody that shows up in this like again the mark of any decent sitcom was when

[00:56:05] you get a guest star in is just let them have fun yeah and you know let them just go

[00:56:12] take a swift as in an episode or doesn't she tell the swift was in um

[00:56:16] Jess and CC yes I was gonna ask you about this Nathan I was saving this question up how

[00:56:20] he feels like the Taylor Swift came out I love it it's great it's exactly what it used to be

[00:56:24] it's Sean Swish she doesn't linger around and I was stay welcome it's just a fun little oh that's

[00:56:29] Taylor Swift okay and she she runs off with CC's husband oh well they don't get married but CC's

[00:56:37] didn't well off at your own so money hello very well I'm gonna say it's like a perfect time to

[00:56:43] get to wrap it up as well yeah because now they get to say Taylor Swift was a show yeah

[00:56:47] much money she'd be worth now for a cameo for less than like half what they had her in for

[00:56:53] yeah yeah no way they would you pull that off to me not a child you got um not a child

[00:56:58] wriggle so run by the rich mits brother in a couple of episodes yeah and he's like the hyper

[00:57:04] masculine like I'm the shmit you're just shmit or whatever like he's the hyper masculine one

[00:57:11] and then it at just the end of the episode there's just the so funny that we'll feel that he's

[00:57:15] just like his kids don't speak to him and his wife is divorcing you and he's just like um oh

[00:57:21] don't know it's it's they like you say let and come in and just let him have fun oh who's um

[00:57:27] who's nicks like cousin or something it's um that Boston comedian oh no yeah well there is yeah but there's

[00:57:35] also the guy who's in the mandalori as well I can feel her yeah like hate star was yeah yeah

[00:57:42] was it a nicks nicks like the put together one yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah I'll

[00:57:53] get to find so many clips for this it's gonna hang out have so much fun yeah yeah yeah

[00:57:58] oh there reminds me there's a moment where they go to to jessies hmm i don't know

[00:58:04] it is yeah they go to i they go to jessies um hometown Portland and because i think it's her dance

[00:58:11] where they're or something and jessies up sack she just like broke up with her boyfriend

[00:58:15] and then jessies mum is also very upset and they both just start crying together because of it

[00:58:21] and that's just a moment where whilst they're crying Winston just says i get a idea there's shells all

[00:58:28] up in these eggs just as they're both crying freaking that's what jessie has to be every time

[00:58:38] ah i got one of like sorry hard this is nothing we're just doing the hits at this point but like

[00:58:46] no yeah this is what every single one of these episodes one of my favorite minds

[00:58:51] I think it's for my view of all time is when um shmit is just born new house and like he's

[00:58:57] he's like hyper fixated on like the crimes statistics and the preschool locations and he and he

[00:59:09] was was he on a nick break into the to his door of school and a child says a white man

[00:59:15] broke in because i white man no so funny

[00:59:23] a white man broke into a white man no what a security do about it nothing typical

[00:59:31] um i also love um Steve stevejie stevejie show it up as as outside days as well

[00:59:41] she's very fun and there's kind of like every now and again for a favor he's allowed to

[00:59:45] sit in their car yeah yeah it's well like uh just a great like quirky character who show up

[00:59:51] every now and then it's good stuff you got the um the landlord of the building that like really

[00:59:58] wants to have us a threesome with nick and jess yeah and they're like yeah oh yeah

[01:00:04] they did it all the other day didn't but they were going to yeah it wasn't me

[01:00:07] yeah they were like trying to prove a bit yeah yeah that's it yeah it was like yeah like

[01:00:11] house bar would they go and it just yeah ends up being like deeply uncomfortable for both of

[01:00:15] the food yeah and then there's there's um also we haven't really touched me but there's also

[01:00:22] the ever member of the cast statement was going to bring this up yeah yeah an interesting one

[01:00:27] right of like in the pilot then has to go for whatever reason and then comes back like

[01:00:32] rather than that ever happens right yeah very rare they have a really nice like met a moment

[01:00:39] where jess is like I met you and he's like hmm don't think we did don't think I met you like that

[01:00:44] right because he's in the pilot and then he disappears yeah yeah it's very fun

[01:00:49] hmm he's yeah I think he's a he's a good character they I don't think they're quite new

[01:00:54] what to do with him for the longest time um but he's he's one of those actors that he's just so

[01:01:01] funny you don't care for like he's he's a minor role so you know it's a sicker and if he shows

[01:01:07] up he gets more like five less than five minutes of screen time forever so he shows up he makes

[01:01:12] you laugh that's that's takes every box you need him to tick very fair very fair hmm

[01:01:19] I'm gonna make a cake so moist because we're gonna be like ill why do you say moist I hate

[01:01:25] that word number like just taste the cake and they're gonna be like today I'm his moist

[01:01:31] yeah I agree with that um I also enjoy the fact that and we can bring this is a perfect time to

[01:01:36] bring this up the during the crossover episode with Brooklyn 9-9 which isn't incredible yeah

[01:01:45] and I'm what I got her in you watching Brooklyn 9-9 all the way through I forgot in that

[01:01:49] happened so when she shows up in that episode of their show I was like wait what but then

[01:01:56] that has a really fun moment of Damon Wayne's junior playing a detective but also being coach

[01:02:03] in this so it's like so he exists in both universe all the same time which blows my mind to think

[01:02:09] I've never considered about that and they don't it's very interesting like I mean why would they

[01:02:14] cause in I think in Brooklyn 9-9 you're especially in like two episodes if that but I do find that

[01:02:25] on a minute yeah that's very funny I never considered that yeah yeah why love about that

[01:02:33] little crossover sequences I think a literary star that's with Jess screaming out here's a crossover

[01:02:37] I mean a crisis she's I mean am I kidding I need to comment here this beautiful it's a crossover

[01:02:47] it's a crossover it's you be and you can't have it I'm a cop can you please get out of the car

[01:02:51] no this is Schmidt's mom's car and I'm more scared of her than I am with some two bit thug

[01:02:56] I'm not a thug I'm police okay the name one law don't kill people

[01:03:00] that's on me I said the bar too low look can you please just get out okay you can drag

[01:03:05] I'm not getting out also I've the seat one run I don't just have a really hot butt doesn't matter

[01:03:10] me a purpose getting away oh it's very hot oh when shows would do yeah you know I mean this

[01:03:17] is like a bike on a run this this would never happen I just don't think things are

[01:03:22] things aren't planned to this degree any no no no it all has to come down to like studio

[01:03:28] rights and everything these days just you just you don't get to have this kind of fun no

[01:03:33] actually yeah like so because I'm not gonna be so what was new girl um I genuinely have a no idea

[01:03:42] e4 as far as I'm concerned that's what I'm talking about he broke it I've broken that

[01:03:48] and didn't that that got cancelled and picked up by someone else and it got yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah

[01:03:55] it got I mean you got cancelled my I want to say cancelled by NBC and then went to Fox I think

[01:04:01] because then they could they could swear but believe that oh yeah yeah and you know it's suddenly

[01:04:06] they got real liberal with the sound effects yeah yeah I can use my Google jingle here we go

[01:04:16] it's time to google i love just create more work for myself it's great this is this is

[01:04:26] way worse a jingle than the one you play oh you mean this is that that one this one sucks so much

[01:04:32] than the amazing orchestral theme that you construct yeah I can't believe you think that's so

[01:04:48] different versions up loaded as well like an alternate you've got a swing jazz

[01:04:53] I am not above that okay right so here's the thing so you guys might not know but I did

[01:05:00] I was a bit the songwriting season in this year there was a bonus episode I did all about

[01:05:05] writing jingles with Ian Harry from the podcast nobody asked for and there were like over 30

[01:05:11] jingles in that between me and him I want to wish a brand new because yeah I just felt like it so

[01:05:18] don't test me all right oh maybe we'll just give you loads of work yeah I'm going to say now

[01:05:28] we know to come closer for needs a new jingle yes I can do it I'll show you I will show

[01:05:34] it out Sarah and MJ from Let's Jaws from it and let's part with my food asking me to write

[01:05:39] jingles for their shows why is I don't know but I did it and I'm not going to lie I'm quite

[01:05:46] these were the results but anyway moving swiftly on I'm still trying to figure out who the hell

[01:05:52] what what my good friend guys new girl who's it what was it hosting who's yeah what network

[01:05:59] was it in work that was the world I couldn't think of because yeah I'm curious I think you guys are

[01:06:05] I think it was a switch over it so according to this 20 century box new girls on folk or was on

[01:06:14] fox which is now they can say yeah which is yeah no Disney which makes sense because it is

[01:06:19] Disney plus I'm excited yes how many times talking about TV networks does the sentence

[01:06:23] which is now in my Disney I know oh there you are it won't be long until they own us all but that's fine

[01:06:39] hey I don't know you I'm open to a buyer I'm not going to lie give me a number if there were buyers yeah yeah

[01:06:45] if this Disney you can give me if Disney comes to me with their paycheck yes please

[01:06:51] oh dear do do anyway moving on moving on where were we yeah we're actually camera we're

[01:06:58] where Damian Wayne's coach yeah yeah interesting right for sort of dipping character

[01:07:04] I'm kind of with you guys I feel like they didn't really know what to do with him and by the end

[01:07:08] still didn't know what to do with him yeah I think I started off really not like that's really because

[01:07:14] because I think when he came in well what are you really came in when he appeared once again

[01:07:18] because obviously who's in the pilot but when he came into like season honestly season three

[01:07:22] if sure and above that yeah um they had that story like he like he went on a date with CC

[01:07:27] and I was like I was right or die ship uh Schmidt and CC so I was like oh I don't know this at all

[01:07:33] so yeah I remember starting off not liking him but yeah definitely grown me over time me I like him

[01:07:38] quite a bit they never really kind of figured out what to do with his character so we just kind of

[01:07:44] moved to New York and married that musician he fell in love with which is which is fine

[01:07:51] then he pops up now again in little cameo here and there but it is never like it is never like

[01:07:58] it never he never felt like he was like especially like in the last season as well

[01:08:02] never felt like he was fully one of the gang really which is a bit of a shame that's the kind of

[01:08:12] character leaves a sitcom they just kind of stop getting they if they get mentioned it's very

[01:08:18] minor because they don't want to wail you and they ordinances that go hang on I didn't know who was

[01:08:22] that character and like I mean we even have like a meta joke about it in the show where they say like

[01:08:28] when Nick say something like yeah we'll probably see him like two maybe three more times

[01:08:31] than that's it yeah that's it but they like characters have weddings and he's just not there

[01:08:37] and it's like they feel like they're completely removed from their life at that point but

[01:08:42] well even on the the crossover episode I think in ends with like them just walking down the street

[01:08:48] in New York and they just randomly bump into it yeah I think it's like you're a New York and

[01:08:52] you didn't tell me and that's like I've been to LA like 10 times not really guys so

[01:09:02] yeah I just suddenly remembered to remember that whole side plot where for like 15 plus years

[01:09:09] Nick has been slowly cultivating a relationship with Schmidt as Michael Keaton and like Schmidt

[01:09:18] right just in time to time and like oh god it and then Jess tries to like save it after she

[01:09:26] shows up on a street court address as Batman yeah but I think the joke is she doesn't quite

[01:09:34] know enough about Batman so she's getting stuff for a long doesn't she yeah and if that doesn't

[01:09:39] some of the show I don't know what does right if just like yeah characters that are like

[01:09:43] well-meaning and endearing but just doing ridiculous things like 100% yeah but it's so sweet

[01:09:52] I forgot about that yeah that whole sub plot oh it's so good it's so good but in any other show that

[01:10:00] would come across as like mean spirited right or like a devastating rug pool but in this you're like

[01:10:05] no it's Nick trying to help his friend and then it's just trying to help her friend and they're both

[01:10:09] just doing it really badly yeah yeah I love that it's full and out of like the fact that Nick

[01:10:17] has all this advice to give but he just he can't do it like the whole I cannot comprehend

[01:10:22] the cookie thing like he just can't separate Kate friendship so he finds a way that do it

[01:10:29] pretend to be Michael Keaton there's so brilliant and it's just like you say the absurdity that

[01:10:36] this show can get away with like any other show it's either the nasty thing anyone's ever done

[01:10:42] or just wouldn't work people be like what was that weird thing that they tried to do yeah yeah I

[01:10:47] felt like there's something like about this and I can't already speak to this because I this is

[01:10:53] not an experience I've had but the whole thing and part of the I think the universal appeal of

[01:10:58] sitcoms is having a gang and the whole living together side of it I think you've like if you've been

[01:11:04] in that situation of yeah I live with a group of friends it kind of feels like these aren't completely

[01:11:11] outside the realm of possibilities some of these situations of like yeah you would get out

[01:11:15] to stupid stuff or you would place it in games or like one of you would pull a prank that goes too far

[01:11:20] like you would have these kinds of stories right definitely I think like obviously closest

[01:11:28] we've come to that is like a uni and stuff yeah we've never officially moved together the closest

[01:11:34] we've come is being pretty much next on neighbors yeah across the whole problem over and like

[01:11:41] we had good fun and stuff yeah although I think that I'm under the opinion where if you don't

[01:11:48] live with someone then the relationship will last longer but I feel like that's that's I feel like

[01:11:56] that says more about me I'm gonna I'm gonna go to someone I want to wipe I agree with that

[01:12:00] well I pack your bags you're off no I I think you're breathing under me like

[01:12:12] no I think that's true of all sitcoms though there's an element of like

[01:12:16] like when I was younger watching some of these shows it's not that young because they weren't

[01:12:22] out for that long but like sure um Brooklyn 99 makes being a detective look fun and

[01:12:30] the office makes working an office job look somewhat fun in some instances but like

[01:12:35] under the right circumstances where your boss is a complete joke of a person and you don't have

[01:12:41] to do any work sure and yeah I don't know they all make their situations look like the most

[01:12:47] enjoyable thing in the world but then like you go and work an office job and you go hang on this

[01:12:51] box way more than it did in the office what the hell where's my fun quirky neighbor and why can't

[01:12:56] I leave the office whenever I want yeah that's so true yeah I'm sure you can end up living in

[01:13:04] these situations we like these people are no fun or though yeah kind of much more

[01:13:08] helpful like a situation where you're with a few people going so which one of you is Schmidt

[01:13:12] you know and yeah I immediately lose everyone and then you get kicked out of the

[01:13:19] things like who is this I like that that's good oh god goodness these are so much fun

[01:13:28] so to do I'm just again I'm so lucky for us just diving in and finding all these ridiculous

[01:13:32] quotes and pulling up so it's so good I mean yeah was there anything else you guys want

[01:13:38] to talk about with a show any sort of standout moments or any sort of things that just draw

[01:13:43] back to rewatching it time and time again I will say my favorite episode is is one where Winston

[01:13:53] is being is called background check and it's a bottle of soda is set entirely within the last

[01:14:00] for the most part anyway and it's just where Winston is applying for a job with the LAPD

[01:14:06] and he needs to have someone come by and just basically interview his housemates his family

[01:14:12] which would be great if he lived with normal people yeah that's true yeah but he lives in the

[01:14:19] new girl loft and everyone is a weird quirky character obviously everything goes wrong and it's just

[01:14:25] if you're gonna watch any episode of new girl just watch that because it's just the perfect

[01:14:30] summation of the show it's just like 22 minutes of just incredible nonstop comedy and just some

[01:14:36] the funniest scenarios you have you have coach Damon Williams in that in that episode he like

[01:14:43] he just off off it's up of his head makes up that Winston has his part of like a big

[01:14:48] brother program like mentoring like a little boy so then he has to go and find a small man yeah

[01:14:59] he does he's so he's not even as bored just a Latino guy he found like clearly like looking

[01:15:08] full some kind of work also yeah he's and is oh it's so funny such a good episode is that the

[01:15:14] one with a detective speaking a nickname he can't lie so he just tries to distract them and he

[01:15:18] says he's just asking and at one point just moonwalk so away from her as well doesn't he go

[01:15:26] and then leave the room what's that he does he just I hope I could find the same bite for this

[01:15:36] but I just found the quote well like yeah Nick starts confessing like you say he struggles he's

[01:15:41] saying and he starts confessing as a whole line here apparently says when I was nine years old

[01:15:45] I fed cereal flakes to a frog and it died and there was a period of time I fed flakes to all

[01:15:50] little animals squirrels who live through it chipmunks can live through it anything that lives around

[01:15:55] half in the night of water dites I don't understand why and there's just like a series of like

[01:16:04] really a name weird confessions that he just comes out and like you say because the characters

[01:16:10] he is like terrified of authority and can't lie like when I was nine years old I fed cereal flakes

[01:16:16] to a frog and it died then I wanted a period of time where I fed cereal flakes all the

[01:16:21] animals squirrels can live through it chipmunks and live through it anything that lives

[01:16:25] half in the night of water dites and I don't understand why but I was 10 I once walked by my mother

[01:16:30] sleeping and I snuck in the room and I put a lemon in her mouth yeah brilliant I agree totally brilliant

[01:16:35] and a nice way for Winston as well like his character growth of like he wants to make something

[01:16:39] of himself and you think oh yes a noble India but of course like you say because if he was friends

[01:16:44] gonna get scuppered completely yes this is the state so high so it's like his last chance

[01:16:52] like even the show tried they wrote it into his character the show had tried and failed so many times

[01:16:57] to find something that stuck for the crew and like and it never really took flight apart from the

[01:17:02] cop thing and then they they ride all of the like this will make or break his career or what would

[01:17:08] he as career as a cop is the success of this interview and it the whole premise of the episode is

[01:17:15] Jess has got like what she thinks is just a brick of cocaine he's trying to hide

[01:17:21] meth and just over the years yeah she thinks that she thinks it's meth I think it turns out to be like

[01:17:27] yeah so yeah and like like she throws herself on the ground is like arrest me and they're just like

[01:17:33] what do you do yeah yeah that's a great show that's a really good jumping off point yeah

[01:17:42] is so good yeah I don't know if I've got any other like because if I could list a million

[01:17:48] quotes and I could like like amazing episodes because again the show is so

[01:17:53] filled with them but I think the reason it like Nathan said at the start of the episode right it's

[01:17:57] on my rotation as well because it's just it's so comfortable it's an easy breezy watching show and

[01:18:03] it's also there's a there's a relatability to it it's nice to watch these kind of like 30 somethings

[01:18:08] have no idea what their life is and what they're doing and I think a lot of people this was

[01:18:14] again something Jake Johnson spoke about in the podcast a lot of people found it through the pandemic

[01:18:19] and like suddenly just grew very attached to this notion of not really understanding where their

[01:18:26] lives were headed and still having a bunch of time to figure it out and I don't know I just added

[01:18:32] there's something nice in that but ultimately it's just a funny show it's really really good time

[01:18:37] to put on and it's every episode is guaranteed a lot like there'll be something

[01:18:43] that is funny in every single episode that is like a genuine belly-life I think for the most

[01:18:49] fun I think it's one of those rarests it comes with no skips agree yeah like every

[01:18:54] say come I have there'll be there'll be some episode that I think I'm not quite keen on this one

[01:18:58] I'll give this one or whatever the office I cannot sit for a scotch pot every time which is

[01:19:05] wait that's a masterpiece of TV that it's too good yeah yes too good the cringe whoever

[01:19:12] is just I can't say for a second yeah but for a new girl I don't think there's a single episode where

[01:19:19] it would be like no I wouldn't want to this it's all it's also good to point you I think maybe

[01:19:24] the only the closest new girl has to escape episode for me is the the nicks next dad's funeral

[01:19:30] where it is Jess's Elvis or something that one for me I just can't I don't know why I find it a

[01:19:36] slog every time very tough on that note what do you guys make of the ramp up we talk about it on a lot

[01:19:42] these uh these episodes is how a season ends or how show ends I should say

[01:19:50] the fight the tricky final season right that had you stick the landing what do you guys

[01:19:54] make of this one because I have some I have some thoughts about this but I'm curious

[01:19:58] to what you guys make of it final seasons are always tough it's and in there are always

[01:20:04] tough it's always especially if you have like such a an iconic show and then I kind of

[01:20:09] cast the characters you want to wrap it up in a way that's satisfying for everyone there's a

[01:20:16] there's a bit of a time jump with the final season it's like a few years after what we previously saw

[01:20:23] and I feel like because of that choice you do miss out on certain things you do miss out on

[01:20:28] like certain milestones and these characters life and stuff and also it can feel like a bit of

[01:20:39] like there hasn't been much development in some areas really um I'll be honest I'm not a huge

[01:20:46] one of the final season I'm not a huge fan of I like the way it wraps up I think it wraps up

[01:20:52] in a size one in the fender it's not like you know a huge tragedy or anything like that and

[01:20:58] there's I think it ends with from top of my head that like um that montage of like them just

[01:21:03] growing older and like you see like moments from their lives you see like shit smitten CC's door

[01:21:09] again all their own stuff and they're more still hanging out playing true Americans together

[01:21:12] and stuff like that which is all very fun I think it wraps up well um I just think that time

[01:21:19] jump decision is probably not when I personally would have made but I'm not a TV writer what do

[01:21:24] I know so yeah yeah I I like it and I don't because I I think there's unfortunately

[01:21:33] it's kind of what I was speaking about earlier right because the the last season is pretty much entirely

[01:21:38] how will Nick and Jess end it but we're all sat every single person is sat there going like

[01:21:45] there's not chance in hell they break up in the last episode and so as so much is I feel

[01:21:50] like a lot of the characters are finished unfortunately like yeah there's not much left to

[01:21:56] explore with any of them beyond Nick and Jess so it's kind of a season of or at least the last

[01:22:00] couple of episodes um a kind of this episodic run of come on like we we we're kind of limping

[01:22:06] to the finish line a little bit but it's like I say it's not the strongest but it's never

[01:22:11] like shy of laughs and genuine fun like they're just even little things like the the

[01:22:17] show gets weirdly matter at certain points but like they give Schmidt a mustache to kind of

[01:22:23] signify the passing your time and then they immediately shave it because it's a little moment

[01:22:29] that that they're genuinely really fun um I do I do like the whole final season is kind of like this

[01:22:36] ongoing subplot that um they've I think it's just at that point it's just Nick and Jess who

[01:22:42] live in the loft but they've been evicted because the loft has been sold the building has been sold

[01:22:46] or whatever and they have to like leave and they end with them pack it up and move and then

[01:22:50] having this big emotional goodbye to the loft and then at the end it all just turns out to be a

[01:22:55] prank from the kids yes another one of his pranks where he's just gone away too far and made them move

[01:23:02] out because it's kind of nicely sentiment as well because they play that last game of

[01:23:12] true American in the war and like they have them like whatever famously there's no rules

[01:23:17] to true American when there are we never told them and they so often they they seem to be

[01:23:22] like standing on furniture and there's this kind of lovely bit of sweet scene where they

[01:23:26] land on a bit furniture or they land like next to something and they pack it and then into a box

[01:23:31] I know it's I always get a little bit I feel like every sitcom has the added benefit of

[01:23:38] it's you know I've been watching it for a month or two it feels like part of my life is suddenly

[01:23:42] going with it when I finish a sitcom I go what do I watch now and you feel a bit empty after that

[01:23:47] point so I think that benefits the show but yeah I don't know narratively speaking I'm sure

[01:23:54] it ended as good as it could of but I don't know what I would have preferred so I'm happy with what

[01:24:01] I got yeah from my understanding I think it I think it was in danger of getting cancelled I think

[01:24:07] it really had yeah I think they only had like so many episodes to wrap it up really because it was

[01:24:13] like it was coming to the end of whatever however long we could fund there I don't really know

[01:24:17] the details but yeah I think they kind of had to wrap it up in so many episodes

[01:24:21] no like what we got left on the list right Nick needs to propose right once we've done that

[01:24:25] and done yeah let's figure that one out yeah that's fair that's fair I don't agree with that yeah

[01:24:30] I pretty much echo your sentiments on it it's like yeah felt a little bit like why are we here

[01:24:36] but also like you said um tie up a few loose ends I suppose and I agree with you Nathan

[01:24:41] like the fact that it was like a weird metadoke that like yeah that Winston had sold the loft or

[01:24:47] like something it was yeah that was a fun little details like that or as you said Lawrence Smith

[01:24:52] horrible mustache like still elements of before it makes it really fun sprinkled in there

[01:24:59] it's yeah yeah it's a good watch and now it's on Disney everybody so not the we're sponsored

[01:25:03] you know they're not gonna buy me at any time soon but you can go and watch it you can watch

[01:25:08] the whole thing if you can navigate the terrible interface of Disney plus you can watch it show

[01:25:13] just make sure you read those terms and conditions yeah oh god yeah I mean this and no one's

[01:25:18] going on there for anything you content so just go on there and just watch all the good

[01:25:21] fuck shows you know but on Disney sassy oh you coming out there I'm sorry they've just

[01:25:31] significantly lowered your buy out well we're gonna write a good star wars or

[01:25:36] there is maybe all change one mind but we'll see yeah spice and taste around today oh burn on Disney

[01:25:47] from an indie podcast and no one cares about yeah anyway before I get to sad guys thank you so much

[01:25:55] for coming on look really appreciate genuine pleasure to have you both back really really mean that

[01:26:03] to take us home yeah where can the good people find you and what you guys do I do HP you do still

[01:26:10] go legs sure now so we have to in front gas to the point we've did the the responsibilities of

[01:26:19] telling you about them we have a pop culture podcast comes out every Friday at 10 a.m.

[01:26:24] another happy pod we're currently in with trapped ourselves in doing a lot of x-men talk but

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[01:26:37] are we also have a doctor who rewatch podcasts course there'll got legs wherever week we just

[01:26:42] watch an episode of Doctor Who not in random order that'll be pretty weird but we're making

[01:26:47] out of a further revival era of the show we're coming to the end of series sick well when

[01:26:53] this episode goes on a middle of September so yeah we'll have one of time is coming

[01:27:00] out we'll have just started series seven we'll be making our way through that and yeah having

[01:27:04] a good time revisiting those classic Doctor Who moments and arguing along the way whichever podcast

[01:27:10] you listen to there'll be a lot of arguing so just that brief spary had a middle like Harley

[01:27:15] pulled us back but they were unfiltered I'm here for it I'm here but it's good fun yeah

[01:27:22] pretty enjoy the lessons and yeah I know you guys don't care for it but I'm here for you being stuck

[01:27:28] in the X-Men universe right now I think it's good fun it's a present we've killed ourselves

[01:27:34] into so I don't know why we do it I'm just mashed out and one episode with M from verbal

[01:27:37] diorama who blessed her like helped me get through it very quickly but you guys doing how long

[01:27:43] are you doing now like you must be like three or four months in at this point with the

[01:27:46] matter of films you got to do oh no that we're gonna come on for you so far but it's going

[01:27:53] take us up until Halloween right okay so by the end of year so oh well by the time this episode

[01:27:58] comes out we'll burn yeah we'll probably be a few months deep into it so yeah so yeah I don't know

[01:28:04] if anyone cares for that go have a listen completely understand it it's not your thing it's not

[01:28:08] Arthur to be honest I don't know why we're doing it it's good fun I already recommend both shows

[01:28:13] great lesson and guys once again thank you so much for coming on thanks thank you very much

[01:28:18] share it a massive thank you there to Laurence and Nathan for coming back on to the podcast

[01:28:23] and sharing your love of this incredible sitcom as I said I've really enjoyed rewatching this off

[01:28:30] the back of this conversation you can find it on the streaming platform that I'm not gonna plug

[01:28:34] again because we mentioned it enough in the episode also the mouse will find me but still worth

[01:28:40] checking out very easy to access well worth your time as are the podcast run by Laurence and Nathan

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[01:28:51] go and check them out I promise you you'll have a great time I'm not just saying that because

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