Movies We Wish We Were An Extra In

[00:00:00] This Podcast Is A 2026 Golden Lobes Podcast Award Winner. Nice. And we're leaving the station. What is fun with this is I can, that no longer will I have to ask if your microphone's connected because I could see that you have your microphone yeti connected.

[00:00:20] Yeah, I realise that that's the thing because when we did this with Harley at Christmas, I think I was the first on and he started shit talking me that I had a yeti. Nice. Nice. Yeah, I mean like to, for a proper, shall we go for a pre-jingle, a pre-theme jingle? Yeah. So for a bit of a peek behind the curtain. Again, another peek behind the curtain.

[00:00:50] We can play jingles now. The curtain. The curtain. Nice. No idea. What's there? No idea if it would have us talking over it or how it works. This is all new to us. But we're using, we've decided to give Riverside a go and see what that's like. We have done that on a day where about 20 minutes ago, or half an hour ago, I demolished a subway.

[00:01:16] And I have a feeling that if this is higher quality than Zoom, you might be able to pick up some errant gurgling. Well, that leads me nicely into why I was asking if you were recording. Because I'm, so I'm, as you can see, this is not my usual decor. I'm in a, I'm in yet another hotel, recording from yet another hotel room. Yes. I don't know how many we're at. It's, it's, it's significant.

[00:01:45] I've edited, I've edited in several hotels and Airbnbs. I don't think I've recorded. Well, we've recorded in person. We've recorded together. Yeah. But then that never saved. So have we? So did we. So I was making use of the facilities at the hotel, not the toilet, but there's quite a nice swimming pool and spa here. Oh, messaging from, oh, I'm just in the pool spa, so an hour.

[00:02:13] Um, but we're in the steam room and there's one other bloke in there and it's got this like nice kind of eucalyptus-y kind of steam going through. It's like, right, I'm going to lay here for like, I don't know, five, 10 minutes, just relax a little bit. And within about 45 seconds, the guy just lets rip. But like, he'd obviously been in like the swimming pool. So, you know, like that really kind of wet fart noise. And it was just unnecessary.

[00:02:40] That inner, it takes a level of relaxation I don't think I've ever had to be. Or not even, not even relaxation. Self-assuredness. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Motherfucker. Yeah, I wasn't, wasn't happy with that. Um, but now I, I finished up in the spa. I went and got myself a dirty martini and here we are. Nice. Uh, which, you know, I guess is a good way to end the cold open.

[00:03:10] Do you think, okay, quick one. Dirty martini. Yes. You said that like it's my pet name, but please carry on. It could be. Uh, dirty martini is, I've, I've realized through, I've drunk many a dirty martini, but realized through drinking this one that it is just a middle-class pickleback. Interesting. Interesting. Just vodka and olive price. Yeah. I, I mean, like. I mean, it's great.

[00:03:38] It, it does sound great, but also like you're not doing that. I, I feel bad that I haven't uploaded the middle-class jingle to the, uh, the deck now. Cause we've been recording for four, just, just bang on four minutes. Haven't hit the fucking titles yet. And so far we've talked about the spa in your hotel and the fact that you've had, and I quote, many martinis in your time. Oyster shell martini. Now that's a game changer. You guys are making a podcast.

[00:04:10] It's the simple things, isn't it? You're going to enjoy this too much. Oh yeah. I. No one asked for this. So welcome to the podcast. I can guarantee you we are never not using Riverside. No, it's, that's, that is the issue. Um, and we've already completely ruined, like the first time we've hosted recording on Riverside and the episode is just completely out there. So welcome to the podcast. Nobody asked for with me, Ian Harries. And me, Graham Jones.

[00:04:40] And this is the podcast where we argue about a top three list of a topic that nobody else is to talk about. We've each brought three picks to talk through, and then we'll be figuring out the podcast nobody asked for as official top three movies we wish we were an extra in, which is interesting because when we came up with this idea, this was the big news that we had to talk about. It was. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but since then, and to find that news, we've decided to be those guys and, uh, there's a Patreon episode on it.

[00:05:07] So if you want to hear the details of my movie exploits, feel free to sign up for Patreon. It's a good one. Um, we'll just go straight into the good stuff, shall we? Um, we won an award. We have. Which... We are award winning. We are award winning. Okay. Uh, we, uh, thanks to the, the, the wonderful team at the Golden Lobes. Uh, we won the Beyond the Feed award, which is pretty fucking insane. Yeah. I'm good.

[00:05:33] I, I, I just, we have, well, we haven't spoken about it in the pod yet, but we've spoken about it at length. I was unfortunately down in Cornwall, so I couldn't attend, but I, I have it on good authority that our, um, Tales for Wales, uh, compatriots, uh, kept you well, um, imbibed throughout the evening. Good for, um, uh, I say for people not watching the video, this is an audio-only podcast. Um, though we can live stream on Riverside, so...

[00:06:04] Yeah, I think, I think that's something that we may want to do at some point. Yeah. We'll keep that in the back pocket. Yeah. Um, uh, so Graham did, uh, take a hearty sip of his dirty martini while saying we were well, uh, the Tales for Wales team kept me relatively moist. Yeah, no, it was great. So Beyond the Feed is, uh, if anything, it's not just an award for us. It's also an award for you, our listeners. Absolutely.

[00:06:33] It's all about, uh, community and the stuff we do kind of outside of the podcast. And predominantly, let's be real. Well, it was the fact that I nearly had a cardiac incident while climbing Ben Nevis. Um, for the, for the, the Roald Dahls Marvelous Children's Charity, which I did get to plug on, um, stage, which was quite fun. Uh, just before plugging our own Patreon feed. As long as, as long as it was in the right order, I think. Yeah. I think that's fine.

[00:07:01] Um, we were also up for best jingle, which we didn't get because Tom Davis and Robert Schrodinger, Nathan won that one, which to be fair, I'm not going to be too annoyed at that happening. Cause now we can say we lost out to Tom Davis who was there and it's even bigger than I thought he was. Did you manage to, um, to chat to him? I didn't. He, he disappeared quite sharpish. There must've been another murder and successful. There must've been another murder and successful, but, uh, it was a good, it was a good, um,

[00:07:31] good evening. Like Graham said, you were, you were, you were off in Cornwall, um, sending me pictures of your dog. Um, and I, uh, drank quite heavily. It was good. Then ended up at a spoons with the tales for Wales team. And then left when I realized, uh, one of them said, uh, they wanted to go to pop world. And part of my brain was like, well, I can go to pop world. And it's like, no, I need to leave now. If I don't, you know, you know, those points in an evening where it's like, either I leave now or I'm going to be here until like five in the morning.

[00:08:00] It's a real fork in the road. Exactly. Exactly. Were you, did you have the next day off? Uh, yes. I, uh, and to, to, to really kind of, uh, kind of show how like our drinking habits have changed. Uh, not even for the hangover, for the fact I knew I wouldn't get to bed until late. And I still maintain it's that that fucked me up the next day. Yeah.

[00:08:25] I had, when did I, I've been like relative, he says drinking a martini while we're recording, but I've been relatively off the booze of late. I've had, I drank it Easter, um, because I'd been smoking a, uh, lamb, well, two and a half kilos of lamb for eight hours. And I felt I deserved a beer. Um, and I drank a little bit in Cornwall and, um, I'm, I'm currently enjoying this drink here.

[00:08:52] But outside of that, I don't think I've really drunk in the last three months. Um, and we, we went out with friend of the pod and also friend of the pod, Ben, who's recorded. Well, he's not friend of the pod. He was, he featured on the pod and has never listened to it. So he's not really a friend, more, uh, um, acquaintance. I could respect a pod acquaintance. A pod acquaintance. Yeah. That, that was an interesting evening. It was, but I, so I, I was driving.

[00:09:20] So I was on the, the AF all evening and we got, I think, so I, I dropped you off. I got back to mine, like M25 was closed. So it took me, I went round the houses. It took me about 40 minutes to get back to it. Oh, my bad. But I offered. So I got to bed about two o'clock, uh, which I've not done in a very long time. And then my son woke me up at like seven. So not too bad, but five hours sleep is not a lot.

[00:09:47] And I have never been happier to not have a hangover with the tiredness. Like I can just about fight through the tiredness, but if I was hungover as well, I, that would have been today with a write-off. Yeah. It's, I, I haven't drunk a lot. I hadn't drunk a lot recently until this week. And this week has been like a proper, I feel like a broken man now. I think again, Wednesday. So, so Wednesday it was a Clapham Grand again, which is good.

[00:10:13] Uh, so met our, um, network all fathers, uh, Podomedy were there. Got to talk to a load of the podcasts on kind of their network. Got to talk to the guys. Our network. Our network. Sorry. Uh, got to talk to, um, uh, Hey, I loved that movie. Um, so I got to apologize to them in person for getting them to watch Lost in Space last year, which was, which was nice.

[00:10:39] Um, and then, yeah, it, it was, uh, I, I didn't, it hadn't clicked that they'd said our name until, so I was sat next to Frank's who it was him congratulating me that made my brain just kind of go, Oh fuck. Um, and go up and look, they, they played like a blurb thing over explaining why we'd won. Didn't hear a word of that. Didn't realize our logo was behind me. And so I saw photos afterwards.

[00:11:08] Um, then got ushered off into a little like nook behind, uh, the stage to give like a winner's interview, which, um, again, I think it was a mix of the beer and just sheer like delusional vibes and energy. Um, I'm very interested to see what that comes out like. I hope that, I mean, you know, call out to anyone that was, that was there that may have, um, captured any of that on, on film.

[00:11:38] Cause I'd have, I'd love, love to see either any of the aforementioned nice words about us or your speech or anything. I can, I can regale you with part of, I remember part of what I said, um, which was along the lines. Let's role play. Role play. Okay. And, and the winner for beyond the feed is, it's the podcast nobody asked for. Oh, fuck.

[00:12:05] Then, then like up, up, up, up the stairs, up the stairs. Yeah. I think I nearly fell over slightly, which I blame the beer for. Uh, and then I said, uh, my original, something along the lines of my original plan was to come up here and say something funny, but we just won an award for all of our, uh, like charity work that we did for the Roald Dahl's marvelous children's charity. Um, so it would feel weird if I came up here and just like plugged our Patreon, which you can find at patreon.com forward slash podcast over the article. Maintain. Nice. Brilliant.

[00:12:35] Uh, I then thanked, um, my wife, uh, while specifying that she wasn't there and doesn't listen to the podcast. Yeah. My, my co-host Graham. Yeah. Who's not here, but listens to the podcast. Our network predominantly who are here and I got a bit of a cheer. Um, and then I believe I thanked the good people of T-Bay services. Nice. Um, and then, yeah, they weren't involved. I mean, technically they were, they're always involved. They're always in our hearts.

[00:13:04] Um, because they then took me off to have an interview afterwards. I already had known we had won the next one. And then, yeah, in the interview afterwards, I think I said, um, Ben Nevis can fuck itself a solid five times, uh, while looking directly down the camera. And I think the person interviewing me nearly had to leave because they were laughing too much, which I got a lot of time for. Yeah. I mean, if, if, if, if someone's going to walk out on interviewing you, you want it

[00:13:31] because they, they're struggling to keep a straight face rather than they think you're a prick. Yeah, exactly. Or I'm a bit, bit, bit of column A, bit of column B. I guess, but yeah. Fair enough. It is truly insane. And, uh, we really appreciate, we couldn't have done it without the people who are listening. We couldn't have done it without, uh, obviously the people at God and Loaves. Uh, and I think the winner, winner, I see what he did there. Again, very aware that this is an audio only episode.

[00:13:57] Uh, Graham has just changed his little subtitle and his name to winner, winner, chicken dinner and then victoriously sipped more of his dirty martini to keep it going. Like aware there were a chance people are listening to this for the first time. I mean, this episode is completely derailed already. We've talked nothing about extras and I'm talking about things they physically can't see. The wall behind you looks like a Japanese geisha house. Like, uh, it is. I think it's because of the paneling, but it looks like it's one of those paper walls. I know what you mean. Yeah. Yeah.

[00:14:26] Um, it's not. I assume so. I'm, I'm a hotel in, I know you're in London. I'm a hotel in the Docklands. I am overlooking the Thames though, which is quite cool. And I can see all of like the, the, uh, city lit up, which is nice. Uh, and you chose to spend your time with me and our award winning listeners. Anyway, extras. Extras. Uh, so yeah, we, what we're going to figure out best films to have been an extra in, uh,

[00:14:55] because I was recently an extra in a film. Uh, you were, which was a lot of fun. A lot of fun. I got to just kind of hang around and watch two stuntmen wail on each other for five hours. So you, you, within the space of two weeks, you've become a film star and an award winner. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. In the space of about 10 days. Riding that high. Riding high. Worried. This is the peak. No, that was at Ben Nevis. Hey. I mean, false.

[00:15:24] Maybe this is the false peak. This is the false summit before even, you know, who knows? Maybe my next extra gig will be slightly longer. I'll be more, uh, more prominently featured. Who knows? But I can now, I can now talk about it, which is cool. You've sworn to secrecy before. Uh, yeah. Like we, we, we still obviously like. Under embargo. Yeah. We can't really, but there was no news about this film out anyway. Okay.

[00:15:49] But, uh, it is a film called Brawler, which is coming out and is Scott Adkins's directorial debut. What I will say is an all due respect to Mr. Adkins and yourself and the fine work you did on the movie. I don't know how much anyone cares. No. Like, it needs to be like embargoed. No, that's, that is fair.

[00:16:13] Uh, also what I do like is I've got a water bottle next to me with the movie logo on, but I left the Golden Lobe Award downstairs. You didn't even bring the Golden Lobe last night. I'm, I'm devastated. I was, I wasn't even a hundred percent sure you were going to be able to go for one. And two, I came for babysitting. I'm not taking the award around the twins, which people, again, if any new listeners think that was a weird euphemism, it's not. I have a twin nephew and niece.

[00:16:38] Well, you don't have a twin nephew and niece because that would mean that they're your twins are also your nephew and niece, which would be a really weird family bush, not even a family tree. Have you, have you heard of those, there were identical twin brothers. I mean, this sounds like a riddle. Yeah. Identical twins who married identical twins. Right. And it meant they then had kids and those kids are genetically siblings. Right. With you. Yeah. We home Alabama.

[00:17:04] Uh, but yeah, um, no, I, I don't think it was what, it was just what didn't seem to be out in the news yet. Fair. Um, so, uh, was kind of keeping, keeping it on a bit of the down low. Uh, and behind the, the, the Patreon wall. But, uh, there is an incredible story about my casting, which again, we will, we will leave for the people, uh, sending us money each month. Uh, which. Yeah. You can too, right? Well, I, I assume you're on Riverside.

[00:17:34] I can get our Patreon link like flashing up in bright letters underneath it. Um, that's, I did, I don't often swim. I did 12 lengths and that's quite sore. Interesting. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, if you ever. I don't really like swimming all that much. I think I do. It's fine. It's just, there's, there's a lot of extra faff and steps versus just going to the gym. Well, there's no steps famously. So that's probably where you're getting wrong. To get into it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. You're jumping.

[00:18:04] You're diving. Um, if you're doing it properly in your, uh, hotel spa pool. I think there's a no dive bombing rule. Well, there should be a no wet fart rule, but someone broke that. There absolutely should be. Or that's an unwritten rule. It's like the British constitution. Yeah. I mean, like, would it have been better if it was dry? Like, was it, was it the concept of the execution? So you're saying it would have been better if we were in the sauna rather than the steam room? Exactly.

[00:18:33] Possibly. The good thing in the steam room is because they would like mix like this eucalyptus oil into the steam. Like you didn't get any smell because it was, you were getting the eucalyptus smell. So I, um, I'm not, it was probably the, you audit, auditarily, audit, truly, auditarily. Listened.

[00:18:58] From an audio perspective, it was less pleasant, but from, uh, a, um, olfactory perspective, more pleasant. That doesn't even work. It doesn't. I just, I just discovered there's a drum joke button. So I'm going to give that a go, aren't I? I mean, fuck me, man. I should not be allowed near this. This is great.

[00:19:26] Um, what's the closest you've been to, uh, uh, a cinematic career? The closest I've been to a cinematic career. Uh, the closest I've been is probably when I was picked and it's not cinematic, it's TV, but I was picked to go and audition for the apprentice. Like, Oh really? 15 years ago. Yeah. I didn't go. Interesting.

[00:19:55] No. Because the questionnaire that they give you is like, it's all it is, is looking for like, duh and ways that they can edit you.

[00:20:24] And like, and I was just like, I've, I just started my career. I was probably about two or three years into it. This would, this feels like it would be suicide unless you go on to win it, which obviously is a slim. Yeah. But even then, right? Like I, I, I'm sure the minority of people who've won it have been actually successful because it's also now you don't get a job, right? You get, he backs one of your ideas. Yeah. You get investment for like a hundred grand or something.

[00:20:52] But I think early days you just got a job at his company, which like, I wouldn't respect the person, the new starter who'd got there because they won the apprentice. No. So yeah, probably that. Or when they came to our, our school and did Harry Potter auditions. Uh, I didn't, I didn't do them, but that's the closest I got. I should have because I'd be a multimillionaire. Who would you have been up for? Who knows?

[00:21:21] Who knows? Yeah. Yeah. Damn me for being a shy kid that didn't like acting. Yeah. I do sometimes wonder how, how our lives would have been different if we'd, uh, realized I was talking about this the other day. Uh, I'm one of my many drinking escapades this week. Um, I don't think I realized until about 10 years ago, I could have a job I enjoyed. Like I, I don't, I, to go full therapy with it. Like it just suddenly clicked.

[00:21:50] It's like, Oh, people actually do like sincerely sometimes enjoy the job they have, which, um, was a depressing realization after I graduated. I'm just going to throw it out there. I don't have the same controls as you. Yeah. But after you said to go full therapy, if I had the opportunity, I'd have hit the drum joke thing. So, um, to go full therapy. That's funny. It is. It is quite funny.

[00:22:21] Oh, it's still going. Still going. Still. This is a long sound. I've, I've made a mistake, Graham. I've made a horrible, horrible error. It's like being back at the golden lobes. I'm sure. It is. Yeah. There's less, less, less wolf whistling. Um, Ian, Ian, Ian. Yes. I was thinking, sorry, I'm going off on another tangent here, but I was thinking the other

[00:22:51] day, like we have, we have names that are mad that our parents ever thought let's call that baby Ian or Graham. Baby Graham, baby Ian. It's, you know, they're not cute. Little. I mean, fuck you very much. So I was an adorable baby.

[00:23:20] Is this where we jump the shark? I think it is. I think we have, uh, again, the episode which might have the most new eyes on is the one where I've just lost myself to sound effects completely. We've reached, we've reached the strange singularity of podcasting. But yeah, I think, I think Graham. Yeah. I think we should get a move on and start talking about films you want to be extras in. Get a wiggle on.

[00:23:48] So before we do that, though, um, it's time for a movie recommendation nobody asked for. And I believe this week it is yours. I, uh, I assume you guys are here for a movie recommendation. No, thank you. Nah. I'm fine. Nah. I'm fine. I'm all right, actually. Thanks, man. Nah. I'm fine. It's all right. I'm fine. Yeah, that's all right. Fuck off. Over to you.

[00:24:13] Uh, so not a movie this week, but, um, obviously the TV series extras. Yes. And in particular, the David Bowie episode, which we have spoken about at length before. It has to be that or the Daniel Radcliffe one to take, throw it back to Harry Potter. So that is very funny. That I think was where I realized that I liked Daniel Radcliffe. Yeah. That was like, you know what? There's this guy's got something. Yeah. It's so funny. Yeah.

[00:24:43] It's because he just pulls out like an unwrapped condom, right? Yeah. Yeah. Talks about how he's just always got it ready. But I think, I think we talked, I think I said this with confidence last time and then we checked and it was right. Yeah. Little Fat Man was the last song David Bowie sung on stage. Yes. Because it was a Ricky Gervais show at Madison Square Garden. So he introduced Ricky Gervais. At Madison Square Garden. I think. Which is nuts, but what a song. What a song.

[00:25:09] Wonderful Wife Alex sung a version of it for us on our Best Use of Bowie episode many, many years ago. Solid choice. It's wild. That we can now say many, many years ago, isn't it? Many years ago. Pre-awards. Pre-awards. Yeah. Extras is great. I've got a lot of time for it. I think basically anything that Ricky Gervais did with Stephen Merchant was pretty good. And yeah. Most.

[00:25:39] Although I will say Afterlife, I actually did enjoy. But then also there's like Derek. So. So. But yeah. I think Extras kind of stands out for me as one of the better things that he's done. Extras I think was also a lot cleverer than people necessarily gave it credit for. Because also it was the whole. He basically makes a heavy. He wants to make The Office. Right? Yeah. And then ends up making like the lowest common denominator version of The Office.

[00:26:08] Yeah. Like with catchphrases and all that kind of stuff. He basically made Derek. I mean, yeah. Pretty much. If you aren't a fan of Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant, regardless of how long ago it was, is there any other thing you can think that our listeners should watch? Decided I'm not going to do this anymore, Ian. We just, we can't, we can't keep. I'm kidding. Midsommar. Go watch Midsommar. It's great. Ari Aster.

[00:26:37] There's probably lots of Swedish extras in it. It's fantastic. Yeah. And on that note, it's time for us to figure out our top three movies we wish we were an extra in. And the first choice is mine. It is. I do, I do. Is it Brawler? Well, no. I know. Because it's Wish We Were In. You don't know you're in it yet. You might have been cut. True. Which would be heartbreaking, especially when we're definitely already planning the View Party. So right. Hang on.

[00:27:06] Because if I press this. We're now officially into the first section. Nice. Ah, good. For people listening who find this absolutely insufferable, we won't be doing it like this every time. I'm just having fun. We are 29 and a half minutes into recording this episode, which means we are also 29 and a half minutes into ever using this platform. I don't know. Your thing at the top says actual recording is higher quality.

[00:27:36] And I don't know if that's like sound or just you as a co-host. Mix of both of those. Anyway, first choice. First choice. So what I've done with mine. First Riverside choice. First. Oh, God. I am. I've just realized. You're Riverside. I'm Riverside. And we're on Riverside. Fuck me, man. God. Levels. Levels. Levels. This is why we won awards. Yeah. The lengths I go to. Exactly.

[00:28:06] Exactly. I'm not Riverside. Our street floods sometimes. That's really the closest I can get. And there's a reservoir nearby. So I've kind of like broadly thought, tried to think why I would want to be an extra in a film. Yeah. And so each of my choices is like my number one choice for that particular reason.

[00:28:30] So my first choice is one of the reasons I'd want to be in a film is to get to dress up really, really cool. Like if I'm being honest, like that's one of the kind of a cool thing you could do with it. Right. Like, so I was thinking which films has like costumes that I think is a big burly bearded guy. I could probably look pretty decent in.

[00:28:54] And of course, we are going back to the much plowed field that is the Lord of the Rings. So I remember the costume stuff. I remember watching a documentary on it on the back when DVD documentaries were a thing in box sets and things of all the costuming. And it is fucking nuts. Like the level of detail they went into it.

[00:29:22] So there were 19,000 costumes that were created for the trilogy, over 48,000 individual pieces of armor, 1,800 pairs of hobbit feet, 10,000 orc heads. And like, I think it was something like five. You never want orc heads. Yeah. No, no. It's very teasy. I think there was like 5 million like bits of chain mail they had to chain mail together. Yeah.

[00:29:51] And again, the level of detail they went into it. It's like the inside of some of the armor was like embroidered and things like that. Like no one was ever going to see, I think, how much work they went into it. But my Instagram following would. And that really is the important thing. I would just have a cool photo of me dressed up in fantasy armor and get to hang around in New Zealand watching the make a film and pretending to be in a battle, which is great. That's fair.

[00:30:16] And you might actually say more lines to Frodo than Legolas does. Yes. I saw today, I don't know if it was a Reddit post or something, but it turns out that the only thing that Legolas says to Frodo in the entire trilogy is, and my bow. That is. There's a great video, which was Legolas forgetting Frodo's name. Right. Because he's also, I think, the only one who doesn't say Frodo when he comes into the room at the end.

[00:30:47] But I think he hates Hobbits. I think so. I think he probably does. But I'm not sure what I would want to be. So the other alternative for this would have been something like Star Trek or Star Wars and kind of go full prosthetics with it. But at the end of the day, I think I'd be happy with anything. Like, obviously, I don't have, you know, I don't want to beat myself down too much, but I don't really have that elf aesthetic going. Yeah.

[00:31:17] I mean, you're... I say this comes from a place of love, but you're a dwarf or you're an Uruk-hai. Thanks, man. But Uruk-hai does require the prosthetics, I will caveat. So does the fucking dwarf? Well, I could see you having a, what was it, a pound off? A pound off, yes, for pound off.

[00:31:45] Yeah, no, like, to be fair, realistically, it would be a dwarf, it would be an Uruk-hai, or it would be a rider of Rohan. Which would involve me learning to ride a horse, which I cannot do. I saw recently, did you see this as well? That, like, there's a picture of a load of the riders of Rohan extras who are all women wearing fake beards. It's like Life of Brian.

[00:32:13] It's basically Life of Brian, yeah, because they put a call out for people who could ride horses as extras, and basically it just came back as loads and loads of women. So they just were like, yeah, fuck it, have some beards. No, fuck it. So we re-watched, not re-watched, we watched The Tudors recently.

[00:32:37] And do you ever have that thing with, like, a film or a TV show where you notice something quite early on? And then it- Was it Natalie Dormer? Yes. But my wife clocked that Jonathan Rhys-Myers, who's the guy who plays Henry, doesn't seem to be able to ride a horse. Right. And because whenever he's on a horse, it's really skittish and moving around. And he can't seem to keep-

[00:33:05] And she clocked it, like, straight away. So for four seasons of the show, whenever he was on a horse, one of us would just go, yeah, he definitely can't ride a horse, Kelly. I feel like Henry VIII probably couldn't ride a horse either. You'd be surprised. Henry VIII was very, very athletic until he got injured in a tourney. Yeah. Then he went for Elvis. Nice. I believe he died on the toilet eating a cheeseburger. That is what they say. That is what they say. Divorced, beheaded, survived.

[00:33:35] Divorced, beheaded. Shat yourself to death. Shat. Yeah. But yeah, I think there's a lot of cool stuff. At one point in my bearded life, there was a big- Because we did go through the- We lived through the heyday of fantasy epics that needed bearded extras that were filming in Northern Ireland. Because you had Game of Thrones was there, Vikings was there.

[00:34:03] Both of those had loads of different iterations off of it. And I just think, part of me wishes I had just gone for it and just rocked up. But yeah, I just really liked the idea of being in a cool, fancy costume. Right? I mean, that's what you want to do. What you want to do in your own bedroom is none of our business. Yeah. Just me, like, you know, you can never toss a dwarf, Greg. I get to look cool, really.

[00:34:32] That's what that choice is. And I challenge anybody to say with a straight face that that's not the most important thing about this. Yeah. And also you get to look cool, but in context, not out of place. Yes. Because you could do any of this in your day-to-day life. You could rock up to the office in fantasy garb if you'd like. Don't dress for the job you have. Exactly. Dress for the job you want.

[00:34:56] But it also means that any work meeting would just have me running in and shouting that the beacons are gone door lit. Or when everyone's like, well, who can take it? And you'd be like, and my axe. Yeah. And Rohan never answers those Zoom meetings. And it's your choice, Greg. No. No? Press the button. Oh, yes. Sorry. Sorry, you're right. Okay, hang on. It's your choice, Greg. Nice.

[00:35:26] Thank you. To quote Nto Shikari, Gandhi, mate. Gandhi. You're leading with Gandhi. Why wouldn't you? So great. Occasionally. So like, again, peek behind the curtain. Again, another peek behind the curtain. Peek behind the curtain. Behind the curtain. Again. What's there? So peek behind the curtain.

[00:35:54] Before these episodes. Once we come up with the idea. We will send each other what our choices are. Just so that we don't double dip. Yeah. Occasionally. There will be an instance where a choice comes through. And I get almost sexually excited about the idea of hearing why this is the choice. Because one of Graham's choices was on my short list. One of them, again, quite interested to see what happens. This one was just like, hmm. Okay. Right.

[00:36:24] So maybe I think this might be because I've got the bug of winning stuff. Being on riding a high. And so if I was an extra in Gandhi, I'd be a world record holder. Because Gandhi, as a film, holds the world record for the most amount of extras in a movie. Okay. That's not nowhere near as problematic as I thought that choice was going to be.

[00:36:54] 300,000 to be exact. Fucking hell. And so I was looking through on Reddit. Someone posted the call sheet for the day where there's all of the... So you've got like the main list of people. So Martin Sheen is Walker and blah, blah, blah. You go through all of the main principal actors.

[00:37:17] And then for the crowd, you have 752 combined military units, 41 Navy, 72 Air Force, 94 Daily Police, 94 Border Security Force. Seven signals, which is 160. Sorry, 1,060 procession required. You've got 1,000 mixed crowd, 3,000 home guard, 500 Gandhi peace movement, 30,000 controlled spectators, 50,000 higher Rana spectators.

[00:37:47] 7,500 scheduled cast spectators, 1,500 mixed group spectators, and 250,000 specially invited guests. Fucking hell. Props, huge quantity of petals for crowd distribution, cameras, notebooks, camouflage nets, ropes for pulling carriage, bicycles as unit transport.

[00:38:09] And yeah, it's the idea of being an extra on something so monumental. And I guess in a similar vein to what you were saying. So look, being part of a world record would be cool. But I was thinking of, again, reasons I would pick movies to be an extra.

[00:38:32] And whilst my complexion may not lend me well to being an extra, I feel like within the 300,000, there's maybe a level of diversity where I could kind of at least slip in. Yeah, so the issue we would have in a film like Gandhi is we would have to be one of the baddies. Well, there is that, yeah, yeah.

[00:39:02] But you were technically a baddie in your extra. For sure. I was part of a gang, which again, still interested to see what that gang has actually done. Because fuck those who I've been cheering on for five hours in the sun in a fucking fake scrap heap. But yeah, no, it's, that's a very, very good answer.

[00:39:28] Yeah, I figured that the chance of getting, given the, the large number of, the large number of extras, I just felt like I'd probably be able to get in there. So it's achievable. Well, ish, cause I'd have to time travel because it came out seven years before I was born. Yes. So that, that could be the. The undoing. Yeah. Jesus Christ. Christ.

[00:39:56] I've got the, um, the scene, all the extras are in. It's mad, isn't it? Yeah. So it, uh, spoilers for real life, but Gandhi died. Yeah. Um, it's, uh, three, yeah. 300,000 extras for his funeral, uh, procession, which like that, that's, it's incredible. Jesus. Right. Yeah. I think that, obviously the, the downside is you, again, you would struggle, I think, to get on camera. Well, I'd be on camera.

[00:40:26] I just might not, you might not be able to pick me out. I say as if I would be front and center of the fucking ride of the Reheron. Um, or one of four dwarf actors in it. Yeah. Uh, and also, interestingly, Bernard Hill is in Gandhi, who is King Theoden in Lord of the Rings. So we've, we've both gone for big crowd scenes with Bernard Hill in, which I'm assuming is who we really wanted to work with. Yeah. I think that's, that's the subtext to all of these ish. Yeah. It's, it's our hill to die on.

[00:40:56] It's our Bernard Hill. Our Bernard Hill. Uh, I've never actually watched, um, it's because it's Richard Attenborough, isn't it? Yeah. The, the eldest, the elder Attenborough sibling. And happy, happy birthday to Dave. Yep. Um, do you see what Lego did? No. Uh, Lego is now officially. Oh yes. Officially. A hundred plus. Four to a hundred plus. So that David Attenborough can keep playing with Lego. It's like, nice. I like that. Um. Yeah. Wasn't happy.

[00:41:24] I think everybody collectively, given the, don't get like, not, not to go too real. Cause we've had a pretty good week, um, outside of the state of the world and all of that kind of bullshit. Uh, what I didn't need was not realizing it was David Attenborough's birthday and going online and David Attenborough being everywhere. Trending. Yeah. It was a proper, like, I not today, man, like not today. But yeah. So you get to be a nice award winning extra, which I think, uh,

[00:41:54] still pending to see if I was, we can't say for sure. I'm not. Yeah. Um, but I do believe we can say for sure. I'm not. You never know. But yeah, I just think, I think, um, viability of, of getting on screen, albeit as a small ginger blob, but then you would probably pick me out in the crowd. So, you know, yeah, you would be one of the, because I would get to tell all the stuff

[00:42:21] of, well, did you know Viggo Mortensen actually broke his toe kicking the helmet? Or Viggo Mortensen nearly died after pretending to stab me as an ugly goblin. Um, after someone said I was perfect for the role as a goblin. And then for yours, it would obviously be the quote of, did you know one of these extras is a ginger guy? I had a similar issue in the Sistine Chapel. Yes. Because I got thrown out for taking pictures, but like then tried to blend back into a room

[00:42:50] full of Italians and spoiler alert, I don't blend well into a room full of Italians. No, that's the, that is the issue. Did, did, I can't remember if I sent you, this is a weird thing to say. I can't remember if I sent you photos of the Italian thing we watched recently. So my wife and I have been watching, we smashed through Peaky Blinders, the obvious follow up to the Tuders. Yeah.

[00:43:16] And there's a scene where they find out that they might have been infiltrated by the Italian mob. Right. And he goes into the kitchen, looks around everyone. And then there was just the most Italian looking man ever in the room. And it's like, it completely, I, it, it ruined the show for me because I could only watch it like it was a comedy sketch. Like it's so, I took a photo and immediately sent it to like an Italian colleague and was like, what the fuck is this?

[00:43:46] That's amazing. Ah, good times. And next choice. Next choice. So this is the other reason why I would want to be an extra in a film, which is for a chance to see people I respect work and hopefully be able to get a selfie with them afterwards. So obviously I immediately went to the filmography of one Nicolas Cage to try to figure out which

[00:44:14] Nicolas Cage film you could be like, you would have a decent time being an extra because you get to see Nicolas Cage go like full Nicolas Cage. Well, I mean, Vampire's Kiss you could have done just walking down the streets of New York. So I was, I was considering that, but what I want to be is one of the prisoners in Face Off. Okay. So where you're in the canteen and you get to see Nicolas Cage shout, uh, shout his name while beating the shit out of people.

[00:44:44] Like it just, that would be, that would be a fun working day to message people about. Right. Yeah. Cause there were, there's a couple of potential options for it. Um, but I, I just, I, I would love to be able to tell people I was in Face Off. Would you, it's only, cause it is only those, well, that we know of, it's only Nick and John as, as we refer to them. Yes.

[00:45:10] That have had the Face Off, um, may, would you have a kind of extra backstory to yourself where maybe you actually, maybe we could both do it and embody each other. Interesting. As extras. Yeah. Okay. So I'll try, I'll try, I'll try and get into the mindset, right? Ooh, I want to be in Gandhi. Yeah. I'm there. I'm there. I really like going to till. I love jelly beans.

[00:45:42] Jelly beans are great to be fair. Like just, just, just chucking it out there. I also just wrote, I am wearing, um, Nicholas Cage merch. I'm wearing my, my Mandy top. So I'm basically cosplaying as Nicholas Cage while talking about how I want to be an extra in a Nicholas Cage movie. So I assumed it was a, an Obama top. I see what you did there. Cause it's got 44 on. Um, and Obama famously, um, was in the film Mandy.

[00:46:09] Um, but yeah, like, I'm not sure. Are there, are there any Nicholas Cage films you think would be? Cause like, cause for me it is one, you want to be able to see a proper like Cage-ism moment. Yeah. And you also want it to be a film where people would be like, fuck, you were in, you were in Face Off. Like you were in Con Air. You were in like, cause you've got like the big three. Right. Yeah. Um, there's then a lot of ones which, uh, you were in The Rock.

[00:46:38] It's like, no, I don't even know Dwayne Johnson. Yeah. It was, it was a long night. Um, cause yeah, like. The one that, that jumps out to me, but it's not, it doesn't have the status would be Wicker Man. Because. Still, still something I'd like to tell people though. You'd be like, I was in Wicker Man. The Nicolas Cage one. Like, cause it would be a reverse.

[00:47:06] Cause it's all women in Nicolas, in, uh, Nicolas Cage is the Wicker Man, right? Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it would be a reverse Riders of Rohan situation. This is true. Yeah. Yeah. So we would have to be given. Which sounds like a sex act. Yes, it does. It does. Um, I don't have that jingle preloaded, unfortunately, but there's enough of them dressed up in like animal masks where I think we should get away with it. Yeah. Sure. Or somebody like how someone would point out, do you know, there's a ginger guy in this 300,000 people.

[00:47:34] Someone would look at it and go, God, that's a fat, hairy woman. Well, listen, cause there's, who was the really famous person that's like a stormtrooper in? Oh, a couple of Daniel Craig and Tom Hardy, I think. Mm. With stormtroopers. Is that going anywhere? No, no. Just, but they, but they were, they were there, but like they, yeah, you, there's no way of proving that they were there. No, true. True. True. Yeah. So we would, we'll just be like padding basically.

[00:48:04] Yeah. Yeah. But no, no, I think that is, that is a good shout as well. Uh, you get to a nice little open bonfire. Yeah. Which is, which is always fun. Um, I'm sure there's honey around. There's lots of bees. Yeah. It's not going to break back. Oh, is it, isn't it famously there wasn't honey, which is why they were burning Nicholas Cage? Yeah, I think so. Like, I don't think you could spoil that film because the ending is a meme now. Yeah.

[00:48:26] What happens with, cause like bunnies, bunnies, nothing to do bunnies, bees, bees eat honey. That's where I got bunnies from. Okay. It was a spoonerism of bees and honey. Bees eat honey. We steal bees honey to eat. Yes. Do we assume that it's like bee genocide when we clean out a hive? Well, no, no.

[00:48:55] I mean, well, first of all, this is just the plot of Bee Movie. I thought the plot of Bee Movie was that a guy, a woman wants to fuck a bee. Yeah. Minus the Seinfeld bee. The bee to philia. I mean, I'm not prepared to Google what would the scientific name be for someone who fucks bees. I think we're just careful with it. Like, you don't take all the honey at once. Right. Like, you just, you take some.

[00:49:25] Yeah. Leave some so they kind of keep going. I think bees just think, like, I wonder if there's, like, a scape bee somewhere who always gets blamed for all of the honey going missing. Ugh. Nate. Yeah. Nate the Bee. Nate the Bee. It's like, oh, fuck, mate. You said you were looking after that comb. Yeah. And it's, like, dude, I know you say it wasn't you, but who do you think it was? Some giant man? Well, you don't. What's even a man? No.

[00:49:56] Because it's just us. We're just bees. This is a man who, when I asked him to get me a Diet Coke yesterday, came back with a Guinness. A Guinness hero? A Guinness hero, to be fair to them. To be fair to them. Which I would argue is a soft drink. Yeah. But not what I asked for. That is true. That is true. And that's why we don't leave him in charge of our honey when we go back to the hive. But yeah, so face off for me, just because one, I get to tell people I've been face off.

[00:50:25] Two, I get to see Nicolas Cage shout, I'm cast to Troy, over and over again. While I believe hitting someone with, like, a dining, like, a cafeteria tray. Yeah. And you know he's going to be like that on set. You know he's going to say some, like, weird fucking stuff. This was when he kept doing, like, press-ups or something. Or sit-ups or something. Like, this is, like, peak mental cage time. And I just want to kind of, I just want to be around that, Greg. See if you can get an invite back to his mausoleum in New Orleans. Exactly. See his dinosaur skulls.

[00:50:55] Which, again, sounds like a sex act. That's your choice, Greg. My choice. So I've gone from the biggest amount of extras in existence ever to the movie Castaway, Sir, he's not Sir, Sir Tom Hanks on an island on his own with a beach ball. A volleyball? Wilson's a volleyball, isn't he? It's a volleyball.

[00:51:21] So I just think it would be funny to be, like, an extra on the island who is just, like, keeps popping into shop. God, the twist in Castaway being there with people there. Like, he's just on, like, a beach the other side of, like, a resort or something. Yeah. That's kind of what I want to do. I just want to be, but, like, full on extra. What is it with you and bees? Nice. He loved his honey. He did love his honey.

[00:51:52] Yeah, I just want to be there. Again! In the background. Full on extra. No lines. No dialogue. Just the odd kind of... You can't even tell it's me. Just in the background. So I get to actually do something... I get to actually do something relevant. Hang on. Right. So what I'm going to find is... So what you'll want to do is... Don't search for this, Graham, because I'm going to show you.

[00:52:21] With the wonders of technology. Have you ever seen the movie Apocalypto? No, I haven't. So Apocalypto... The Mel Gibson thing. Yeah. So Mel Gibson directed a... To be fair, it's a great film. Like, to quote South Park, the man's insane, but he knows story structure. Yeah. It is a historical epic set in, like, the last few years of, like, the Mayan Empire. It's all done in, like, basically an extinct, I think, South American language.

[00:52:50] Like, native actors. It is incredible. Mel Gibson has a cameo in it. Right. Mel Gibson is in the film for a single frame that he just randomly puts into the film. So this is what Mel Gibson looks like in what is a very, very serious drama. So it is Mel Gibson just looking like the Burger King king. Yeah. With a fairly sizable cigar, is that?

[00:53:20] I think it's a cigar or, like, a roll-up cigarette. Yeah. And, yeah, again, very... It's... And I don't, like... I know we've mentioned the film I'm about to say predominantly as, like, it's our go-to shock film because it's funny. But this would be like if Steven Spielberg put a photo of him with a bobble hat randomly in Schindler's List. Yeah. Like, it is that type of, like... It's not like this was Fight Club where they... I know they did that. Or a comedy.

[00:53:48] This is, like, a quite serious film about, like, empire and colonialism and things like that. Is there any explanation behind this? No? Mel Gibson's insane. I think that's the explanation to it. So strongly encourage people, just Google Mel Gibson cameo apocalyptica. Apocalypto. I always get it mixed up because there's a band, like a cello metal band. Yeah. With a very similar name. They did that song with Corey Taylor. Yes. Which is very good. Anyway, cast away.

[00:54:17] I wish he'd have done that in Passion of the Christ as well. Sequel to that's coming out. Which is wild. Passion of the Christ ends just with him dying? Yeah. So, spoilers. He comes back. Yeah, yeah. So is that what they're doing in Passion of the Christ? Yeah. So it's the resurrection of the Christ. Christ. Christ. Christ too. Christ's harder. Didn't Family Guy do a, like, Passion of the Christ where he comes back as, like, it's like a buddy comedy? It's a buddy comedy.

[00:54:47] It's basically Need for Weapon. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. One of them's a maverick. Like, we were... Do you remember when Family Guy was good? Some of my... Oh, fuck. I can't remember. So, yeah. So my two favourite Family Guy jokes, which were very early Family Guy. Like what we said, our theory of if it's a square aspect ratio, it's generally a good episode. Yeah. So my two favourite Family Guy jokes are Brian realises he's in love with Lois.

[00:55:17] Yeah. And he goes out to a bar with Peter and he's about to tell him. And Peter just goes, oh my God, you can talk. And another bit which Lois tells Peter to stop acting like a child. And Peter says, well, if I'm a child, that makes you a pedophile and I'm not being preached to by a goddamn pervert. It's like, that's, again, very funny. That's very funny.

[00:55:42] But, yeah, it's the hit to miss ratio was always there. But it's definitely swung to the negative now. It has, yeah. Anyway, speaking of not a lot there now, Cast Away. Cast Away. Yeah, I mean, that's kind of it. I just think it'd be quite funny just to kind of pop up. As like, I don't know if I'd like, I feel like so subtly that it's like, it's the kind

[00:56:11] of thing that pops up in like a Reddit thread in like 12 years after it came out kind of thing. And did you know he was also in Gandhi? Six years before he was born. Yeah. So on average, still, the films you appeared in would have had 150,000 extras in. Exactly. Yeah. I like that a lot. Did I ever tell you my cousin's view, review of Cast Away? No. Probably.

[00:56:36] So my cousin sounds exactly like the guy at the end of the Your Mother's Got a Penis song by Goldie Licking Chain. You know the one I read? Is it true, man? Has his mother actually got a penis? Yeah. Not a lot happens. He said that to my dad. And my dad still talks about it now. And this was about 20 years ago. Because my dad's just like, can't quite. It's like, what did he think? Like, that's the point of the film. He's stuck on an island. But not a lot is going to happen. Quite a lot does happen. Because he's in a big plane crash.

[00:57:07] And like, a whale eats his best mate. Yeah, that's very sad. One of my most used gifs is from Cast Away. It is. Yeah, yeah. A really, really sad one. Yeah. Well, it's not a sad one. It's a bit of a wanky one. And my final choice, Graham. So we've had getting to look pretty in a cool costume. Yeah. We've had getting to meet someone and watch someone you like work. Three, we have personal gain.

[00:57:34] So my third choice is the film Don't Worry Darling. Don't Worry Darling is basically a Black Mirror episode of Charlie Brooker didn't know how to make a film. That's unfair. Don't Worry Darling was distinctly okay. Like, the performances in it were good. It was Olivia Wilde's directorial follow-up to Booksmart. Booksmart is fantastic. Yeah. It's got podcast favourite Florence Pugh in.

[00:58:06] Harry Styles? Harry Styles, Chris Pine. But it's not bad. But the thing with Don't Worry Darling is all of the shit around the film became a lot more interesting than the actual film. So these are things that kind of went on behind the scenes, right? So Olivia Wilde and Harry Styles began a relationship during production.

[00:58:34] How that overlapped with her current relationship with Jason Sudeikis, nobody really knows the timing of all of that. So there is a chance it was an affair. Apparently, they spent so much time together, it led Florence Pugh to have to direct parts of the film, which she still denies that she did. But she also did hardly any of the media follow-up stuff or anything like that. And it seems like there's now a very, very strained relationship between her and Olivia Wilde.

[00:59:03] I like the idea that she named the movie Don't Worry Darling, because that's the most that she kept saying to Jason Sudeikis throughout the production. Yeah, I think so. Don't worry, darling. Harry who? Sheila Booth was originally cast and then removed. Olivia Wilde said it was because people complained that because a lot of stuff was coming out about Sheila Booth at the time.

[00:59:32] Sheila Booth. But you can do jujitsu. Sheila Booth. I went to a good friend of mine, Jake, who's the guy who won the Tiptoes DVD at our live show, did an event for actors in Hitching recently, where actors could do monologues from things. Like an open mic night, but for people who act rather than play guitar.

[00:59:58] I fought the urge to just do, can I do actual cannibal Shia LaBeouf? It's like a dramatic reading. And then also demanded that my wife and I do The Room, but it's like a duologue, which he was very keen for. She refused. But yeah, so she kicked Shia LaBeouf out of the film, apparently. Shia LaBeouf said, that's not how I remember it. Olivia Wilde, I believe, called him a liar.

[01:00:23] And then Shia LaBeouf released the voice notes that she'd sent him, which basically like in just complete. I can't remember if it was voice notes or like the text messages or like what, but basically just like had receipts and just put them out there and didn't comment on it again. And I don't want to say I've got a lot of respect for Shia LaBeouf because I don't, but I have a lot of respect for the keep like. Oh, yeah. For sharing the receipts. Yeah. So like put it out there.

[01:00:51] And it was also that great type of receipts where like it wasn't the first thing he did. Yeah. Like it was enough time was given that like they could have backed down themselves if they wanted to. But because they kept doubling down, it then was like, right, there we go. There was a sort of Venice Film Festival, I think, was where the film was kind of shown for the first time. And like everyone's body language, they had like body language experts on news programs trying to dissect what was going on.

[01:01:18] And there was then a video where it looked like Harry Styles spat on Chris Pine. Oh, yeah. I remember that. So there's all of this like crazy shit that was going on in the background. And basically, I think TMZ could pay up to $100,000 for a good like confirmed story tip. Nice. And that would be quite nice to have some money. Fair. Really not to be that guy.

[01:01:46] Very least, our Patreon content gets a lot more lucrative. Yeah. You know, if instead of talking about me becoming an extra, we talk about how I know what happened in Don't Worry Darling. So I was an extra in it. To be fair, there's nothing stopping us doing that now. That is true. No one knows that you weren't an extra in Don't Worry Darling. Yes. True. I was an extra in Don't Worry Darling. I have. I have a... I can't believe I haven't mentioned this already.

[01:02:15] So I... My... I was on holiday with my in-laws this past week whilst you were collecting our award. And my wife and I were talking to mother-in-law and she was like, oh yeah, me and your dad went to the pictures the other day. We're like, oh, what did you see? You know my in-laws.

[01:02:39] Because my mother-in-law somehow managed to get Steve to see Devil Wears Prada 2. Fuck! Yeah. Fair play. But because Rory McIlroy has like a tiny cameo in it. In like a dinner scene or something. But also, they both missed him.

[01:03:06] Oh, and you think people could spot you in a crowd of 300,000 people. Well, this is why I could be in the shadows in Castaway. Yeah. Oh, that is amazing. Fair play, Steve. Fair play. But yeah, so I think, yeah, just like getting an insight into what is like, I think the movie gossip thing of the last kind of couple of years, right? Yeah. Like it is.

[01:03:32] It's, and again, I don't, I'd be interested to think how this film would have been received had that not happened. But the film just wasn't as interesting as all the shit about it, which made the film seem worse. What are some of the other things? You've got Christian Bale on Terminator Judgment Day where he has the- Salvation. Salvation. Yeah, yeah. Where it's a big meltdown. Trying to think of other particularly egregious behaviours on sets.

[01:04:02] But basically, that's the one that always comes to mind. Yeah. I mean, there are some like, there are some which are quite bleak. Yeah. Which I didn't want to pick. Like, I think someone, like there was a, I think the Twilight Zone movie, someone died and there was a big like court proceeding afterwards. Well, it was the same with, what do you call it? The Exorcist, right? It had a load of like deaths and injuries and things. And a lot of people-

[01:04:30] Oh, I've just realised, you didn't pick the one that I thought you were going to pick. With the court proceedings that came afterwards. Oh, what did you think I was going to say? You mentioned Cannibal Holocaust. Oh, yes. Yeah. So my choice came down to Don't Worry Darling or Cannibal Holocaust. Yeah. So Cannibal Holocaust, again, just because I think it would be a fascinating thing to be able to talk about afterwards. There was a lot of issues around the making of the film.

[01:04:59] And basically there's, the director had to prove they hadn't actually murdered someone because some of the effects were. So the iconic image. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So the iconic image of that film was this girl who's been impaled. And his defence was, well, here she is. So you're alive. So, yep. Cool. Yeah. Next question, please. Have you seen it? Yeah. It's fucked. Yeah.

[01:05:25] And there's like a lot of like actually just murdering animals, which is really unnecessary. They kill what I'm fairly sure is an endangered tortoise. Yeah. Which is, yeah. Like chop the top of a monkey's head as well. Yeah. It's a proper video nasty.

[01:05:47] But yeah, that was more, I definitely could have, we could have hosted a decent like true crime podcast off the back of that or like illegal miniseries. And again, got some decent money out of it. But this, because we still don't seem to know what happened. Yeah. I think I could have got us a decent, you know, let's put this aside, Graham. Riverside would pay for itself for a while. And final choice. Final choice.

[01:06:16] Our final Riverside on Riverside choice. Riverside on Riverside. It's set in London. It is. So I was thinking of, so I've gone for the most extras. I've gone for the least extras.

[01:06:32] And then I was thinking like, what is a movie where it would be kind of, A, iconic to be in and to be directed by the director in question. And B. What is it with B's, man? Like a level of acting that I think I could do. Nice. Nice.

[01:07:02] And the obvious piece there, I knew, especially with like lots of extras, you're in a crowd. You don't have to do a huge amount to be convincing. Zombies. Yes. So it's Shaun of the Dead. Because Shaun of the Dead is great. Edgar Wright is one of my favorite directors of all time. And that would just be awesome. And I think I could just kind of hang around a pub going. Good. Glad you did that unprompted. I was about to say I need your best zombie voice.

[01:07:32] Very, very aware that you're in a hotel. This was so this fell into category one for me of films where you'd get to dress up cool. So I did have a look through zombie films considered 28 years later. But I don't think I want to go tackle out this early in my extra career. While Shaun of the Dead, I get to keep things undercover, which is always nice. There is that. Yeah. But yeah.

[01:08:00] I just because there's I guess no, I suppose they're not their camera. I was going to say there's because there's the scene when they're going behind the like the alleyways and they go past like they're kind of like doppelgangers. Yes. But that's more of a cameo than an extra. But yeah. I think I could see the zombie thing. So you would want to rip Dylan Moran apart? Dylan Moran? It is Moran. Dylan Moran. It's Dylan Moran. It's Dylan Moran.

[01:08:29] I've seen him live. So have I. And he introduced himself as Dylan Moran. Hey, hey, don't. Don't shoot the messenger. I'm just remembering what an Irish actor said he was called about 15 years ago while I was still at university. Did we go to the same show? We've remembered him say his name. Was it the Hexigan? No, I saw him at Richmond. It was it might have been the same show. It was the one where he talks about the cage coming down. I'm not 100%. I can't really remember the show. I just remember having a good time.

[01:08:59] But because I always thought it was Dylan Moran. And then he introduced himself as that. And my brain just kind of went, oh, I was wrong. Fair enough. We'll agree to disagree. But yeah. I don't know if it's if. Yeah, I suppose because he does play an absolute arsehole in that movie, doesn't he? So yeah, I'd probably go. No. Fuck it. I'm getting my revenge on Bill Nighy. Fair play. Yeah. Yeah. He gave us COVID. I'll give him the zombies. The zombies.

[01:09:29] More bees. Back to bees. Did he? I don't think. I don't think. Because it's his wife who. Is it the wife? No. She's not. I don't think they're married. Because that's the whole thing. It's like because. Yeah. Sean's dad is. I can't remember if he's died or is divorced or whatever. But Richard. Is he Richard? I think he's called Richard. Is like his mum's.

[01:09:59] Partner boyfriend. Kind of situ. Can't remember. I need to rewatch Sean to the dead. I haven't watched it in far too long. Do you know what? I still have never watched The World's End. Really? Yeah. Because I heard. I heard it was so bad. And I didn't. Because I love the first two so much. I just didn't want to. It's not as good as the first two. But that's also like say. You know. It's not. Unfortunately. It's not one of the best British comedies ever made. Yeah. Fair. I also got burned by Paul.

[01:10:28] Which I know isn't Edgar Wright. So there's. There's. There's the whole thing there. But. That. Talking. Going back to the Ricky Gervais example earlier. Of like. He's not good without Stephen Merchant. Turns out Simon Pegg is shit without Edgar Wright. I wouldn't. I wouldn't say that. I. Simon Pegg has done some good stuff. Paul was absolute trash. Paul wasn't great.

[01:10:54] But that also felt like they were trying to do an Edgar Wright-ish thing without Edgar Wright. Possibly that's where it fell down. Yeah. I also found it. I. I used to follow. Simon Pegg. I used to follow on Twitter for a while. And. He just really turned me off him. He's just such like a grumpy bastard. Yeah. I have no time. Nick Frost. Nick Frost is great. Yeah. But. Yeah. Simon Pegg seems a bit of a. Insufferable prick. Mm.

[01:11:24] Which. Which is a shame. Which is a shame. So. Yeah. I mean like zombie. Yeah. I do. I do like that. I think it's. Do you think you'd be more noticeable in that or. In Cast Away as the only extra in the film. I think probably. Well. It would depend how good a. And. A hidden extra I was. It would be more of a comment on if I was fulfilling my role in Cast Away. But then I think. Cast Away.

[01:11:52] I would go viral quite quickly when someone did spot it. Someone finds it a couple of years later. Yeah. And then it depends for. For Shaun of the Dead. Right. Because you've got. Am I a crowd zombie? Or am I like. The guy that they're. Wanging vinyls at. So that. That was. That was the interesting one with. So I remember. There was a Star Trek documentary on extras. And they have categories of extra. Right.

[01:12:22] Which. Denotes how much prosthetics. And things like that. They need to have. Yeah. Because if you're. So there's a. Scene in like the. Star Trek reboot. They did with Chris Pine. Where it's like their Mos Eisley cantina. Scene. Yeah. And it was like. So you've got like. I can't remember which way around it was. But like you'd have like your category three. Who are the ones. Who are like just on a table in the background. Where you basically just. Just like weird colored gloves. Like that kind of level.

[01:12:52] You don't really need a load of makeup. And then you'll have your mid tier one. Where you need to look convincing. But there's not a lot for you to have to do. And then you'll have your top one. Which are front and center. And like. You might have a bit of like CGI. Like augmentation to it. Or puppetry stuff involved. Or like that type of thing. Because I think for a zombie. I'd want to be. I'd want to be more prominent. Because then you'd get more zombie shit on you. Mm-hmm. You know. Rather than just like a tattered. Rather than just like. What you'd be wearing for the castaway one.

[01:13:21] You get a bit more of a. Prosthetic do up. Yeah. Maybe like. Full on. Like ghoul from. The grudge. You know. And it's got like no. Bottom jaw. You just got like a. A wangy tongue. Yeah. Sorry. She's doing the grudge noise. The grudge was fucked man. That scared the shit out of me. When I watched it for the first time. Yeah. I don't remember it all that well. I just remember it being like. Following in the footsteps of the ring. Yeah.

[01:13:51] Yeah. Yeah. Are you talking the. The American remake. Or the Japanese one. The American remake. Yes. Because I. At the time had seen. I hadn't seen the. Is it Ringu? Isn't it? Ringu. Yeah. Yeah. I haven't seen. I don't think I've seen. I think maybe I've seen Ringu. But then. Realized that. You know. Penguins don't pee everywhere. They've got cloacas. Yeah. I don't have the cloaca jingle lined up either.

[01:14:21] Unfortunately. So. What is this? Amateur hour? But yeah. They. Yeah. I think it was kind of. Pretty. Because the. Both of them are pretty unsettling. Oh yeah. Yeah. As far as remakes go. Neither of them were that bad. No. And they've just done. Weirdly. And I. Why I've made this leap. Is because I think in one of the scary movies. They have the. The ring girl. And they just like slap her around. I think. Yeah. I think so. Yeah.

[01:14:51] But they're making. Like. There's like a new scary movie coming out. Yeah. I thought we'd put all of that to bed. Yeah. Do you know the guy who wrote. Should know. Like the Chernobyl miniseries. Not personally. No. No. Sorry. You know of him. I don't know who it is. No. He also wrote scary movie three, four and superhero movie. So the guy who made arguably the best. Like the best TV show ever made. Yeah.

[01:15:21] Also made there. They went through such a weird. Because you had like. Yeah. The new ones being marketed as like fucking war on woke. And it's like guys. Oh is it? I haven't seen it. I just saw it. Anything's on the table. It's like. Everything's still on the fucking table then. Like you just need to. You just need to make a good joke about it. Yeah. But also like. It was before when you made those movies. Before. Before. But yeah. They.

[01:15:52] Yeah. It was. It was the breadth of like those. Parody movies. Because you had like. Scary movie was like the. You know. The trailblazer. And then you had all like. Not another team movie. And then it got to things like. The soundtrack of not another team movie was insane. Yeah. What's the. Because there's the. It's all cover songs. Yeah. There's the Marilyn Manson song. Is it? What is it? Can't remember. But the.

[01:16:21] But the video for it was. Not another team movie. Party isn't it? And the. The Manson band come in. Do. Does the. They play it. Tainted love. Tainted love. But yeah. Where is it going? Yeah. But then they went like. So like. Meet the Spartans. And like. Epic movie I think was another one. I haven't seen any of them. But like. How do you get to like. This is. This is. Why. I believe Ian. We can. We can get a movie made. Yeah.

[01:16:51] And like. It's such a shame. Because when a parody movie is done well. That's so fucking good. Like top secret. Yeah. Like. It. It's just. It became. Again. Like the. They were just churning them out. Yeah. Another one of them's. Another one of them's is. Them's. Them's. Them's coming out. But no. I do. I do like it. I think Shaun of the Dead is a solid shot.

[01:17:48] Um. Researching which films they say numbers in. Which is a weird rabbit hole. Top threes of our threes. Uh. Yours. What are you feeling? Um. I think. Third place. Cast Away. It's funny. But it probably ruins the movie. Second place. Gandhi. Uh. I want to be a record breaker. Um. Cue the theme song. But. I. My chances of being.

[01:18:19] Pinpointed. Uh. Slim. Um. Even with my. Um. Complexion. And then. Number one. Short of the Dead. Because. Uh. Edgar Wright. Plus. Being a zombie. Feels quite easy. Plus. Like you say. Probably a good opportunity to be kind of. Front and centre. And get revenge on Bill Nighy. So. Yeah. Ticks all the boxes really. I like it. So. My choice. I'll go. Three. Uh. Face off. Um. And then I am torn.

[01:18:49] Between looking cool. And being in an epic. Or. Potentially being able to sell my story to the news. And. I feel like. Morally. I wouldn't be able to live for myself. If I put that one first. So I'm going to go. Don't worry darling. Two. And then. Lord of the Rings. One. Uh. Because realistically. I also love the Lord of the. Same with like. Shaun of the Dead. Right. I love the Lord of the Rings films. It would be really cool to be a little part of them. Um. And see how all of that stuff's done. And. Oh. So you're going to be a hobbit. Yeah. I mean. You know. They do have a lot of hobbits.

[01:19:18] They'll save money on the hobbit feet. If anything. Must be real. Um. Third point. But yeah. So. The combined list. Yep. Uh. The official top three. Mm-hmm. What we think of. What we think of. Shaun of the Dead is definitely up there for me. Like I said. That was kind of shortlisted for mine. Yeah. You've. You've. You've ruined it a little bit. By putting face off at three. Because that was my favorite of yours. Especially with the view that we could do it as each other. Oh yeah. Good point.

[01:19:48] Good point. So. Personally. For me. I would go. Shaun of the Dead at number one. Lord of the Rings. At number two. Because that would just be cool. And I think we could probably both get away with it. Um. And then face off at number three. But. As each other. Like. That would be our own kind of. Method acting into it. Yeah. And I think. Um. These would also be. Yeah. Like they said. Quite good things for us to be able to do together.

[01:20:18] Yeah. While obviously. Um. As we talk about on Patreon. There were certain things with my extra experience. Where if you. Went for it. I didn't get it. Um. I would never be able to live it down. Yeah. I. I couldn't put myself in that position. We could probably do Gandhi together. But we might lose each other in the crowd. Yeah. True. True. Um. I still. I still can't. That. Again. Encourage people. To. Seek out that scene. It's. It's. And it. It's like.

[01:20:48] Again. To be. That guy. There's a reason why I think. Again. Like. The. The battle stuff in Lord of the Rings looks better. Than it does in The Hobbit. Which is a lot more. Digital. Why things like. The Gandhi crowd scene. Looks a lot better than. Stuff you necessarily have now. Like. The Trump inauguration scene. Exactly. Exactly. Which definitely had 300,000 people there. Yeah. And Graham. That is. I'm going to categorically say.

[01:21:18] That is not true. I like how. During this. I'm fairly sure at one point. I implied you'd fuck to be. And you were fine with that. But as soon as it's joking. That you're at the Trump inauguration. We have to. We have to put our foot down. Look. I've got. I have. I have lines. Okay. That is fair. That is fair. No. I do. I do like that. I do. I do like Shaun of the Dead. As number one. Less traveling. Yeah. Which is always. Always good for us. But yeah.

[01:21:47] Cool. Are we locked in. Graham. Are we locked in. Not much of an argument this week. Which is always a good sign. Yeah. I'm happy with that. Nice. So. The podcast. Over the Arts. For all. Official. Top three movies. We wish we were an extra in. At number three. Off. At number two. We have the Lord of the Rings trilogy. And at number one. We have. Shaun. Of the Dead. If you agree with our choices. If you disagree with our choices. If you have been an extra in something. You can find us on Instagram threads.

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