Peppa Pig

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[00:00:15] We can't let the children think that doctors are there for you. lot done that night. I thought I'm going to clean everything. I'm going to do all my cooking for the week. What actually happened was I had two thimblefuls of wine and I was wiped out. It was I was actually worried I was like, what's changed in my person to make this happen? The entire year just

[00:01:41] happened. So you're just tired. I guess I was tired. hear you discuss Hider in the House, or if you haven't watched that, Tots TV or Jungle Run, feel free to read this out on the podcast, all the best, James. And James wanting to read out. I got one, I got one. You've got to. I mean, if you don't ask, you don't get right.

[00:03:02] Exactly. And he got James.

[00:03:03] And the reason I wanted to read that one out is not just because it was so lovely to read been it's happened so quickly. Like we went I would say last couple of weeks. Really? Yeah, the last couple of weeks on like Instagram, especially we, you know, we kind of had some success on TikTok a few, a couple of months ago, but on Instagram, we've, you know, surpassed the 10K mark and followers. I know a lot of people have been following based on the kind

[00:04:23] of quote unquote relatable top TV stuff. for Instagram that's Laura's party in another life she was a Foley artist we the oh my god

[00:05:43] yet so we make loads of songs right which yeah that means so like when there's a of me. That's what the sound is called, I think. Last night, me and Meg were googling the difference between sand, silt, clay, and loam. It turns out loam is just a mix of all of them. Loamy. Loamy. A loamier soil. When did this happen? Just last night. You were washing up.

[00:07:00] You weren't there.

[00:07:01] Before we get into the topic of Peppa Pig, I just want to say that I'm sorry. It's food time. I remember standing there and they had cookies that were for each of the friends from friends, but they only had three. There was like a Joey, a Monica and a Chandler and I was like, oh great, can't wait to stock up on my Chandler cookies. Yeah, there's some absolute food time nonsense.

[00:08:22] It's like a shit.

[00:08:24] But you know when you go to the clearance bit

[00:08:27] in like a home where as Pepper Pick because it's like, will she be the kids of the creators?

[00:11:00] Or will she be the kid of one of their friends?

[00:11:02] She was the kids of the creators friends and her parents,

[00:11:05] that the friends were also animators. mum gave a Harvard unit for being a good girl. I thought that's how I took that. Yeah, so the way that a lot of kids' voice acting works is that because often they're too young to read and perform at the same time, an adult will read the lines to them bit by bit and they'll repeat it back, which is sometimes why in Charlie and Lola, for example,

[00:12:23] it's very cute and it does sound very childlike the way that sometimes kids

[00:13:23] I coughed because I was trying to fuck with Elsie, so I was trying to make water noises directly into her ears.

[00:13:26] I'm so good said.

[00:13:27] I choked him.

[00:13:28] See that one's fully on me.

[00:13:33] So what do we think of?

[00:13:34] What are our opinions?

[00:13:36] I think Laura's got purely negative opinions.

[00:13:39] I can talk with it purely, but like 80% of the colours.

[00:13:44] And shapes and sounds.

[00:13:45] I didn't like it that much.

[00:13:47] I tried to watch, like I do think it's outdated, like from our perspective. But I do think that the main problem is that the more people you watch it, the more people are going to have issues with it, right? Yeah. So it's like the reason you can find so many, I know we'll talk about was commissioned, they'd had like a show around for like a door. It was called The Big Night, big night. And it had a series and it was apparently very good and it won a couple of awards and it wasn't on the BBC. I was like, oh, and it's like, because they intentionally didn't pitch it to the BBC because of being a bit interesting. I didn't know that. And to me that I'm like, OK, so you have worked with the BBC, you probably BBC vibe and I'm like, OK, that does make sense. And I get not pitching it to BBC.

[00:17:40] I bet I bet they're like, yeah, I mean, it's Channel five, isn't it?

[00:17:44] And Nickelodeon and well, everything, isn't it?

[00:18:50] weird sitcom things that I just don't find funny. But I know a lot of parents at the time probably would have, like how family guy had its day and you watch it now. And I remember when,

[00:18:55] well, when I was a teenager, when I was a young teenager, I did find it quite funny.

[00:19:00] I don't find family guy funny now at all. Well, exactly. So because of this, they literally can't learn anything. They literally can't age all of these things. And it kind of annoyed me. I was hoping when I

[00:20:20] went to season six that George had maybe grown up a teeny bit because he...

[00:20:24] I mean, all George does of reinforced concrete I ordered. Because more weather banks who plays the mum and I can't remember the dad's name, I can't remember his actors.

[00:21:40] How long?

[00:21:41] Daddy Pig?

[00:21:42] Daddy Pig?

[00:21:43] Yeah, I can't remember the actor's name.

[00:21:44] Yeah, I can't remember the actor's name.

[00:21:44] Yeah, I can't remember the actor's name.

[00:21:46] Yeah.

[00:22:41] I don't know. I didn't know that's long.

[00:22:42] How is it, Sharon?

[00:22:44] Ah, Richard Ridings is the name of Daddy Pick, and he was in Bounces by John Godba, which

[00:22:49] isn't a play that I like, but it is a comedy, apparently.

[00:22:52] Is this a comedy?

[00:22:53] No, I'm not.

[00:22:54] Or it doesn't know who he is.

[00:22:57] It's a playwright from Hull.

[00:22:58] Anyway, more when a bank is a hilarious comedic actress, I do feel like she's wasted in Peppa

[00:23:05] Pick.

[00:23:06] I got the sense that she knew when it was zoomed out, there was no ladder on the bunk bed. Unforgivable. And my dad was like, how's she getting down't know if you can get unclean watching a pig. I mean, in the Middle East, Muppets ran into some problems because of Muppiggy. So, yeah. Did they run into problems in France because of Kermit? They made a whole film about it. That's so funny.

[00:25:41] Well, you know, I remember what I was going to say.

[00:25:42] I didn't watch it as a kid at all.

[00:25:43] I think, I mean, we weren't too old.

[00:25:45] We were all the potential age to watch it.

[00:25:47] Yeah, because I was six. Did they manage it? Honestly. So they had two friends say something Laura. I just, I think that the power vacuum left by pepper pig being on break has been filled by Bluey. Yeah. Or Hey Joggy as well. Because Bluey is huge and I actually way prefer it. Oh, it's a lot better.

[00:27:01] It's so much better.

[00:27:02] Genuinely and really good software.

[00:27:04] There's.

[00:27:05] Yeah.

[00:27:05] I don't want to jump ahead of things, but I read I was reading. hole is being blue is doing really well isn't it? Yeah similar way. Yeah. And bluey I think approaches topics holistically and sensitively in a way that Peppa Pig just sort of pile drives through without really checking. Oh yeah for sure. Yeah. Because Peppa Pig is like a story led and not issue led. It's like Peppa Pig walked so bluey could run. Yeah.

[00:28:21] You've got a big tummy daddy. Is there a baby in there? I'll slide that with you. Daddy? I want to have a question for you two guys because at the bottom of that Guardian article They talk about how one of these people uses it in their writing classes and that it's really great writing a three-act structure Yeah, like they said it was just really amazing. I mean, it's tight, but it's We as well it is I want to get your opinion on actually how good you think the writing is because I wasn't like blown away by it

[00:29:42] In any sense really I don't think it's bad I honestly believe that. Mr. Wolf and his family are moving into their new home. Oh look! Little Pig is! Hello, I'm Wendy Wolf. I'm Pepper Pig. Thank you for building our house, Mr. Pig. What's it made of? Straw? Sticks? It's made of bricks.

[00:31:01] Let's see how strong it is.

[00:31:03] I'll huff and I'll puff and I'll...

[00:32:03] Well, I'm reading her stories and she's saying, where's the mummy and daddy?

[00:32:06] And these animators realized that the first thing

[00:32:09] that makes sense to a child is a family structure.

[00:32:12] That is the first thing that they learn, basically.

[00:32:15] So, and there aren't a lot of shows,

[00:32:17] well, shows at the time didn't really have it.

[00:32:20] I just realized that a lot of the shows at the time,

[00:32:22] the focus was on a central man's profession.

[00:32:27] Yes. people being thick, in my opinion. Oh, it's so difficult. We managed to do it. We managed to do it loads and loads and loads and make billions of pounds. Yeah, when there's money, there's a way, right? Yeah. Where there's a wallet, there's a areas. It's better than like cocomelum.

[00:35:00] Yeah, I don't know cocomelum.

[00:35:01] I don't really know what it is.

[00:35:02] We should do it sometime and just it's another one of those heads episode where we just spew

[00:35:05] hatred for two hours. There's a website that allows parents to let other parents know if a piece of media is good or not to show to children. And every so often, if we're covering a show that's popular enough, we get to read some bad reviews to some sad music. And Peppa Pig has those.

[00:36:20] And I'm really happy that we're kicking off the New Year and the New Series with a common

[00:36:24] sense media section.

[00:36:25] I'm very excited to hear comments from Mummy Pig that Father's Day was a made up Smoking, yeah. Yeah. Like it's. That was the common sense media section.

[00:39:00] So glad to have it back.

[00:39:02] My issue with Peppa Pig,

[00:39:04] it's so a lot of people think it's sexist

[00:39:05] because it's like, oh, the dad can't do anything So, of cobwebs! I love cobwebs! They give the room character! Cobwebs mean spiders! And I don't like spiders! Oh, Daddy Pig! Look at them mess you're in! I hate the daddies. The daddies? I hate all of them.

[00:40:20] I hate all of them.

[00:40:21] There's one.

[00:40:22] And I hate them for the root like...

[00:40:23] I...

[00:40:25] I...

[00:40:26] I know that you've just said this is... a family blah blah blah blah blah but I'm sick of seeing representations of families that are like heteronormative. Mums that wanted to be parents and dads that wanted to dad. Yeah. Like it's yeah there's a difference between wanting to have children and wanting to be a parent and I'm sick of seeing this. It's like because it's especially in like

[00:42:47] his work. The mothers women generally do. Even in households without kids, let alone households with kids where it's like, the mom does a full-time job and then comes home

[00:42:51] and has an extra 20 hours of work a week cooking, cleaning, laundry, packing stuff for the

[00:42:56] kids. And it's like, the dad does one thing. It's like, look at me, I'm being a good dad.

[00:43:01] It's like, you're just being here. You're not being a good, you're is the same. I don't know if Blue is the same. I think everyone in Blue is a dog. But, what is the delineation between talking species and not talking species? Why did the ducks not talk? Oh yeah! Why do the worm was not? Well, I think that, I mean, we were,

[00:44:20] because it's a pig.

[00:44:21] They have no mouth.

[00:44:22] Oh shit, it's a pig.

[00:44:25] You've seen June?

[00:44:26] No, I haven't.

[00:44:27] Oh, you, I was on the way to the gym when I thought an ice cream would be nice. Miss Rabbit is ill. You've got to sell the ice cream today.

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[00:47:08] Te- have to be really stupid or they have to be really stupid yet. So I understand why a lot of parents don't like it because it's like a lot of people on Reddit and stuff were talking about oh my child copied this behavior, my child copied that behavior. Like saying the word yuck a lot. Yeah but it you you are then able to as a parent use that as a learning opportunity.

[00:48:20] Yeah I'm sure when I have children I will change when she's blunt but children are right. And when I was reading the reviews and I just watch like 40 minutes of it so just watched loads of episodes and I hadn't I wasn't relating to what they were saying obviously I've not lived with a child who started copying her behavior or whatever.

[00:50:45] about her and kids are like this and this is one that never never really gets dealt within the show is and this is this makes sense for her. She's very entitled. She thinks

[00:50:53] she is the main character which she is so her acting like that I mean tracks but it's

[00:50:58] also like you aren't actually like you're you're not the main character of your family

[00:51:03] in real life. You're not entitled to have complete command over the playroom your little and it's like, um, pepper and George on these diggers that are like pedal operated and mommy and daddy, when we and daddy figure out having to like pedal them to operate them in the boat sweating. And then like the, they have like this opportunity to go on this claw machine.

[00:52:20] And in the claw machine, I like this digger land is ran by this giant potato. What have we got together? How do you know that? I'm a clever clogs! Anyway, who wants to ride one? Me, me! Why have you got dinosaurs in Potato City? Er, because dinosaurs ate potatoes?

[00:53:40] No.

[00:53:41] Anyway, children like dinosaurs.

[00:53:44] Dinosaur!

[00:53:45] Dining soars! what we choose to give them. No, no, I think pink's love eating anything. They just eat everything. So, not the same, is it? I love eating everything. Who am I just eat everything? Remember I asked you to watch the pig racing videos. Oh yeah. They love root vegetables and vegetable peels. Like, what a weird thing to admit to on the pod.

[00:55:00] It's so cute.

[00:55:02] Shut up.

[00:55:03] I once walked into the living room in these two,

[00:55:04] we're fucking watching pig racing videos. I mean, it's this potato that speaks in the show is bigger than all the animals. He's a success. He is. And he's very scary looking. They actually have done studies on plants and they do make noise. It's a frequency we can't hear. And if they're healthy, they make less noise.

[00:56:21] And if they need watering, they make more noise.

[00:56:24] Jesus.

[00:56:25] I don't know if it was a potato plant. like wow real life massive. Like Lords for Children. Do you remember that meme that went round ages ago about how tall Peppa Pig is? There might be something like 17 inches tall. Like Mario is six foot tall and it's like Peppa Pig is like 20. She's ridiculous. Yeah it's ridiculous.

[00:57:40] It's ridiculous.

[00:57:42] The thing is in the scale factor, the hill that they live on.

[00:57:45] Oh Jesus.

[00:57:46] She probably would be about 20 foot tall. with left and right. And I know which one is left and I know which one is right. But if you ask me to point, I will point to the wrong one. And I don't know what I know which one is left. Living here, like living in London with like the river being a really good indicator. I'm getting really good at cardinal directions. Oh, God could never be me. No directions of any kind. Oh my God. Okay, so

[01:00:02] And you could see Tess go. It's so bad.

[01:00:05] So basically I was at this doctor's

[01:00:07] for all the other reasons I had to be there.

[01:00:09] And I mentioned this and he went,

[01:00:12] okay, well, when you come back, we'll do some tests.

[01:00:14] I was like, no, no, no, no, it's happened like three

[01:00:17] or four times.

[01:00:18] It's this week, it's fine.

[01:00:21] And he said, yeah, we'll do some tests.

[01:00:23] And when I had the tests, he asked me what year is it?

[01:00:26] And I went 19, oh, wait, no. Simon and I'm the it's short for Belinda I'm pepper will call you Peppa oh And this is George will call you Because it's so popular in the US, but it's British American children are picking up little

[01:01:40] British isms where it's like they're saying

[01:01:43] tomato tomato zebra how clever how clever mommy and

[01:02:41] Oh, come on. Don't make that mistake.

[01:02:42] In Paris, mate, they will do that to you.

[01:02:44] What's Crisps in French?

[01:02:46] Um, I don't know.

[01:02:49] Yeah, so there was a band episode in...

[01:02:53] And I think this is completely reasonable on both sides.

[01:02:56] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

[01:02:57] I mean, I think that this is not the only kids TV show that's had an episode banned in

[01:03:03] Australia for the same reason.

[01:03:05] So basically it was about be friends with the spiders.

[01:04:20] Yeah.

[01:04:21] Shall we talk about why Peppa Pig got banned in China?

[01:04:24] Let's get understand it.

[01:05:43] So there was a sort of youth movement in China like the year of the pig was 2018 and Peppa Pig was huge I think it So, that's not, so, it's basically, it's Manchester, but like people don't like, people for Manchester don't like you to say that. But yeah, it's like a, like a 15 minute bus ride into the centre of Manchester. It's like when people call Beverly Hill. Yeah, I mean, from Hull

[01:08:22] it's London. Watford, London, yeah. Don't do the popular kids cutting. In May, the Daily Mirror reported that 30,000 videos of the strange-looking porker were removed from the Chinese version of YouTube called Dao Yin, as she was associated with the young people's shuh-huh-in subculture. The state-run Global Times website denounced these youths as

[01:09:43] poorly educated with no stable job, unruly slackers roaming around, the antithesis of the But this is called... It's an ambience. An ambulance. And who can tell me what it's like, we can't think the children. We can't let the children think that doctors are there for you.

[01:13:43] You can't have them thinking that which is that would be cool. a choice that it's a very simplistically animated show. But, and I think that the texture of the animation is, I like that, that gives it enough of a delineation from other animated kids shows, because it looks like it's done with crayons, right? But I found it like, just a little too much, a little like all the colors and everything that's just too much.

[01:15:03] Is anyone else get what I mean? the last four years of my schooling was in Malaysia and I remember talking to a teacher once who she was like, yeah, I bought a new car. This was in 2017. She bought a brand new car. She had to get seat belts in store. Whoa. What the hell? She bought a car from the 1920s. No, brand new car. It's just like, there's some road stuff that's a bit lax in Malaysia. What's at the 60s when they introduced seat belts?

[01:15:05] I think so.

[01:15:07] A lot of people.

[01:15:08] Maybe the 70s in the UK, I don't there. Oh my God. Where are your seat belts? Oh yeah, we're not. That's what worries me sometimes because because of my boobs, mine cuts across my neck. Yeah, I think they are. I have to put it under and then it's like all the way down almost at the beginning of my arm. So there are some benefits to being me.

[01:16:20] You still have some of these anatomical rib cage size

[01:16:23] and that kind of thing that might lend you

[01:16:25] to the injuries I'm talking about.

[01:16:26] But at the same time,

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