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[00:01:36] If music be the food of love Territaps is like eating God's foot It's indescribably delicious and a little bit naughty You may think I'm the main attraction of the show and you'd be right

[00:01:54] But my tapes will be nothing without the unmistakable soundtrack and audio landscapes of our oral wizard Odin or Nielmars and In our next peak inside the fear we talked to a electronic that dread argument self as well as the remaining house of fear members

[00:02:14] Rite his Alex and Samuela about soundtracks that go bump in the night I think the other thing as well was Which I want to come on to like the music The new item because when we were writing it as a sip before we were writing two soundtracks

[00:02:38] We knew we wanted to make the music a big part of the show like Have always having a score for every episode which is a big ask of something for like you know a brand new show kind of thing

[00:02:56] But you took it on board and you just got what the vibe it was obviously being a fan yourself like was it easy to Not easy but did it come naturally to like I get this I get what I want to do with this or did you

[00:03:11] Listen to a lot of different soundtracks to get the feel of it. What was your yeah? It was definitely both so there were a few episodes where you send me the script and I just I had an idea like

[00:03:23] This happens a lot when I'm reading scripts not all the time but I'll start to hear things. I'll start Which you know you might you might find that very questionable, but but yeah, I do definitely start to kind of get a feel for things

[00:03:35] And I often try to sit down and get them down and get ideas down and stuff like that But I did also do a lot of research. I went on a lot of you know scoured Spotify for I A lot of different playlists and soundtracks from hammer horror

[00:03:54] You know very orchestral scores to the sort of more band orientated Goblin scores to the most sort of Cynthia general kind of 70s and 80s scores There's such a rich tapestry and and you know I definitely did have to sit down and do my research

[00:04:14] But generally reading the scripts I always had an idea of this is a direction I want to go down

[00:04:21] This is the sort of the palette like the least of life. I always knew that that was going to be sort of like a band with a chugging bass line really

[00:04:30] Sort of low or fall growly synth that was gonna go wow you know, I just knew that that had to be in there Similarly with fish food I kind of knew what that space felt like and we kind of kind of talk about them that more when we

[00:04:47] Break down their individual episodes, but Shard that the Charlotte and was a tricky one actually the Charlotte yeah I cuz I remember sketching stuff out for that and not liking it and I went sort of back to the drawing board

[00:05:01] And I'll talk about it more when we talk about the reality of the opportunity capture because it's so Based in paranoia and yes, and it's half actual. It's not evidently horror in any particular genre

[00:05:15] It's sort of it's it's quite difficult to kind of like say we'll get to that Yeah, but having like worked now with us for Oh, you're half you're half a thing now Or over that yeah, yes

[00:05:29] Do you find when you're doing these new episodes that we're editing at the moment? Do you find scores and the music is coming to you a bit more

[00:05:38] Naturally are you still finding some harder than others? How's that yeah, I think I'm still it's still sort of a mix So there are still some scores that I think I need to kind of immerse myself in something similar

[00:05:52] And I think also you know, I really don't want to repeat myself too much So I know that there's sort of you know there are Texas textures and pallets From from the sort of the era is that we're paying homage to

[00:06:07] And it's easy for me. I think to sort of fall back on What I'm my cause of my own sort of doodles, there the sort of the kind of shapes and and colors that I would do Just sort of left to my own own Doodling kind of mind

[00:06:24] So I do have to try to now I'm sort of having to go a little bit broad around But you know we we still have things that are you know That that we still have yet to mine Like even though

[00:06:38] Least of life was maybe a bit more band orientated a little bit goblin S like not truly goblin, but Five lashes of the cane which is gonna be our final episode of this series That's gonna be very goblin like that's just gonna be poor goblin Oh

[00:06:54] That's actually it. I mean there's these are good one. So we do have influential centers when we're writing Right into the center of the visitor And listen to goblin's some goblins Goblins do one of the dead. We listened to that of the

[00:07:05] Okay, yeah, so we listen to um oh we listen to some carpenter as well I like the thing that's not the boogie man. That's a that's an underrated underrated son He was a blood spot. We have listened to blood spot that didn't work so well

[00:07:20] But that for you do you listen to an a thing prior around or do you need not to listen to something or is it? Yeah, would you listen so for sometimes when I'm writing

[00:07:31] Things I know I want to be trashy for example. I'll try and read and immerse myself Yeah, crap. Not physically I hasten to add not physically. I don't love excrement over myself Unless it's the weekend. I love you do you yes

[00:07:47] In preparation yes when I'm in the middle of it. No because then all color color it to my Absolutely like in prep so that it's just sort of going into my head and it's swirling around a little bit then yes, and absolutely but then

[00:08:02] But then absolutely not I mean I think I was working on the five lashes Score and I just had to like I just had to relish and a little bit to the deep red

[00:08:14] Santa because that's sort of what I'm half basing it off and I just had to I just had to work. Oh, yeah, no, it is on odd times signature at the start and oh, okay Right, yeah, they've got they've got this thing here

[00:08:24] They've got this awful squealing synth that's way too high pitch for human ears since the dog's mad in the neighborhood but And it's just to sort of get me into a bit of a space there'll be sort of more complex scores that I might need to

[00:08:41] Think of a bit more like I was on very long time making the languages background music I was just about to ask what about like the incidental music so The intro music the credits the languages music and also just the trailers

[00:09:00] Music different music for the chairs as well. I think one I will cite in particular the supply to each of Trailer, which is a Epic goes go to a lot of places. Oh, yeah, it's a good time to mention you can buy the soundtrack

[00:09:15] independently on cofie coffee coffee coffee In particular, we'll find the soundtrack there I recommend you do because we like we you know love hearing it with the poll cards But when you do hear it just out of context it does an out of absolutely beautiful

[00:09:37] But on the actually Languages took me a while because I'm not I'm not really on orchestral composers I had to do a lot of research for that one and I had to sort of Find something find something that I really liked the sound of and just sort of

[00:09:54] Understand the the harmonics structure on there and the instrumentation the orchestration and just sort of Bash my head against the wall until I had something that I was happy with The the theme tune though actually is a very interesting story

[00:10:09] That I so in 2016 I was working on another Horror comedy anthology podcast presented by so no Present No, it's just great events at them But it's very funny because it unfortunately it didn't go anywhere We did we recorded a few episodes. I think one maybe got edited

[00:10:36] We did a couple of live shows which was sort of working up to it, but then for whatever reason Just sort of didn't quite didn't quite happen and um I did a few different theme tunes for that I wanted to do Intro one and an outro one and

[00:10:50] And I did I did one and I got feedback from the producers and the the the writers It's just a little bit too Adam's family and I was like oh, that's fair that's fair

[00:10:59] Because even though for them it was horror comedy, but they wanted the outro music to sort of have this sort of sense of You know, they want it to be funny throughout but they want to end on something a bit heavier

[00:11:12] So they want to kind of end on a little bit They draw you yeah, yeah, yeah, I saw you in Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah So so so so it just wasn't the right mood for the outro theme theme tune

[00:11:26] It was just a little bit too had a harpsichord in it It sort of had this sort of dirt dirt Dirt it that it was just a little bit a little bit too too off and I took that point

[00:11:34] That was totally fine. And so I went back to the drawing board But I remember the thing game. This is a funny little theme tune This is so stupid and I showed it to a friend of mine who's also a composer and we laughed about that the

[00:11:46] It's got a bit of an earworn melody it sounds like something that sort of drunken football who Look at my shout down the street as they're causing havoc after their teams The one or last

[00:12:02] And so when we were thinking okay, well, we got to put together a bunch of You know bits of music in stental music for this and I just realized oh my god

[00:12:12] I've got something that I haven't used for five years that I really wanted to see the light of day and so I Found it. I dug it up We did it a little bit you know, I sort of I you know five years apart

[00:12:26] So I was a much better producer and and mix so So yeah, that is that is where the end theme tune comes from and actually the intro Where John last as our announcer is saying you know how short fear presents

[00:12:43] Also, it's just a quickly adding case you didn't know John last is the genuine Continuity announcer for Legend which used to be the horror channel. It's really the horror channel. Oh, that was a good to be the horror channel A good draw for us

[00:12:58] Yeah, he's um so the music underneath there is actually the end theme tune but slow down like Got on no eight times or something so it's very like slow and wobbly

[00:13:09] So actually, I think a few of the skits have that underneath as well just sort of the end theme tune Slow down by a certain degree Just for added fear for us because it all sort of Mushes and washes together into a horrible horrible cacophony

[00:13:27] Was that you're saying and as you whispering into the oh yeah, so the very beginning is has like this And then lots of scary whispers scary whispers and So there's a lot of me there's like four layers of me going oh my god There's lots of essays

[00:13:50] But then halfway through there's also a recording of me go the toys are in power the toys are I just want to think of the scariest Through horror the horror looks horrible

[00:13:59] The toys are in power and so that was just fast that's just thrown in there as a true truth We didn't know that and so we gave us a break down video Like it was far too far to

[00:14:12] You know yeah, yeah, I thought it was pretty but the the end music we love We read that just the vibe we want It wasn't as a quite hard right wing concept Just launching into the middle of a diatribe about barges and then you and then you

[00:14:32] Don't embrace the news yeah, you stormed out. It was yeah Yeah, it's very hard fun But it's staying in that's that's where I'm on and I like yeah, that's what we have in common Hey, I'm Ryan Reynolds recently

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[00:16:05] That's ended up being a kind of regular feature like the languages jingle and just I'm sorry about the languages jingle as well there's um it starts with The Bum Bum yeah Don't that

[00:16:20] I think it's all if I remember correctly. It's all try tone to tall the devil in harmony And I think there there was it was meant to be missing it was was meant to be a three-part harmony in the baseline was going to always not always

[00:16:36] But it was going to always be sort of touching the try tone But I wasn't enough. It wasn't a good non-basing so I cut that bit out So there's only two of me singing but but involved in the language it seemed to you and is a lot of

[00:16:50] The try tone and I should say it is so apparently it is a myth that you know that the the Try tone got banned Which is a

[00:16:59] Often said the try the the church band the try tone but um there's a very good YouTube video by Adam Neely about that that is not true But we we still refer to it as the devil's interval because it does sound horrible

[00:17:10] It is used a lot. It is a Undown for a bonus bit about try tone from me Yeah I do not know about this Yeah, I just the just a little guide You're audio guide I'll bother try tone

[00:17:25] Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah I'd like that Did anyone say it? Oh Is he going to book God that's Mr. Tumble How was he mean Well, so I mean the try tone you know it's

[00:17:46] It's a musical interval so it becomes something else now So you know all music is the relationship of two or more notes being played together So a perfect fifth is going to sound like this If it's going to be tuned

[00:18:05] It's nice and neutral. There's nothing much going to it, but if we take this note and we Take it down half a tone it's going to be the devil's interval Much loved in metal music

[00:18:25] In fact, that is the interval in the supply teacher when it goes very heavy metal heavy rock It's all it's all the devil's uh interval, but

[00:18:36] The devil's interval does feature the try tone does feature in a lot of music like when we have a core progression that does something like Yeah

[00:18:47] So it's not in there, but often the last chord there is has a try tone because it has this feeling of leading to the home chord That's the try tone there You know that that makes it feel like it's going to draw you home

[00:19:11] But when used badly when used poorly and not as the church prescribes you could summon the devil was That is what you know the fear was but also as I was saying that has been debunked

[00:19:24] Or something's appearing in the corner even as we even as we said we still playing But there we go that's a main see that that is clear My Tom Crowley said higher Odin. Which is also a great see

[00:19:42] I mean it's it not on his low that I should say like this is this is basic stuff I mean you know if you're going to do some spooky you're gonna you're gonna figure out where when am I gonna use a try tone

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